Who is the best heal reversal champion?
EdisonLaw
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And why?
Who is the best heal reversal champion? 183 votes
Void
43%
80 votes
Mr Fantastic
3%
7 votes
She Hulk
0%
1 vote
Sandman
12%
23 votes
The Leader
21%
39 votes
Guillotine (both)
6%
11 votes
Other
12%
22 votes
1
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He will however be the best for actual heal reversal out of all of these, he can start reversing healing faster than any of them and he can keep it up by simply using light attacks.
About the leader, I think he's gonna have uses, especially for regen and power control. I might need to do more testing (once I get him from the arena), and I'll do a review on him
Not the best any more but a proper nostalgia pick as the first.
while for fastest isn't silk faster than leader since all she has to do is get her slow and she has a much better heal reversal than leader immediately
Lmao this is like showcasing a bunch of matchups with a ton of armor with Galan and saying "yep, that's a top 3 cosmic!"
Now, note how Nagase calls the Leader a "very strong utility character" at around 3:59 seconds, by no means is he saying that he's a very strong damage champion, he is instead putting him on par with renowned utility champions such as Warlock and S2099 (who were well received initially because of reasoning such as yours, but later became accepted as great additions to their classes).
With the Leader, he has insanely strong Power Gain and Regeneration reversal which can be applied to MANY matchups and Inequity built in to boot. If you've watched the video, it takes like 20-25 seconds for The Leader to reach the 10 debuff limit and completely shut down Regen and Power Gain. On attack, you can completely reverse Willpower on the opponent. Hell, they didn't turn off Inequity or Despair on The Leader, which means you can be even more tanky and hand out more Heal Reversal.
Like it or not, The Leader currently has a stranglehold over two mechanics that help define the Science class as a whole. I'd be willing to bet that he'll be a cool champ to use in AW and BGs because of his control and defense potential.
I'd anticipate him being a great champion to use against The Serpent, Destroyer, Absorbing Man, Sasquatch, Werewolf, Kindred (not 100% sure), Gorr, Hulkling, Rintrah (also not 100%), Sauron, Toad, Wong... plus the occasional Regen/Power Gain node here and there.
Time will tell so I could be wrong, it just helps to look at everything the champion can do before making a staunch judgement.
Mister Fantastic isn't a speedy champion; and doesn't have the fastest/most accessible Heal Reversal; but in a long fight, his ability to turn healing and power gain against the opponent is extraordinarily sustainable.
I would say 'particularly if the player runs Despair', but anyone playing with Mister Fantastic (or Sandman) who doesn't use Despair is clearly just not paying attention...
Small shout-out to Yellowjacket, who definitely isn't the best at Heal Reversal - Yellowjacket isn't 'the best' at anything - but at the same time, he's definitely underrated as a Regeneration controller; since his nuclear core ability can dramatically reduce Regeneration passively, without relying on any debuffs at all. With his Petrify up (and it lasts a good fifteen seconds), opponents with a strong regeneration ability really start to melt.
I watched the video, I'm not arguing the utility part I'm arguing the noodle part because he is a noodle unless certain conditions are met. How many BGs metas have we had with a ton of power gain and regen since BGs were released? Not even 5 and season 20 is about to start tomorrow.
As for the WP reversal comment, I already did the Math and the max damage you will be getting is between 1k-1.5k a second because WP doesn't scale with modified health. Healthpools are currently between 250k-300k if you think 1k-1.5k damage a second is going to allow him to compete with the damage of any of the current meta relevant science champs in BGs you're crazy, and that is the main complaint here from me. None of the champs released this year are meta relevant cause they're full of utility but damage is just not quite there. We don't need more champs like that, I haven't even popped any featured crystals since I got Serpent cause nothing in those crystals will actually do anything for my account as an endgame player who usually places all the way up in Arcane l at this point.
I'm not denying the fun aspect, he looks fun, what bothers me is that Kabam seems to be unable to release one fun champ that's actually strong enough to be meta relevant. Sable and Arcade both looked very interesting and fun yet their damage is garbage. Leader might not be that bad but he's nowhere near "very very good" (which Nagase mentions right off the bat) and most likely won't make it to 90% of the decks cause the damage just isn't there.
I've looked at everything he can do, I watched DLL's video as well, (he said Serpent is probably a no btw so you can scratch that one off) and I did my own Math to account for the WP reversal and I'm not impressed just like most CCs.
Lastly before I get the usual "BGs isn't the only game mode" comments, that is correct it's not the only game mode. However, for people who have already 100% all game content or are pretty close to 100% what else is there? BGs is the only reason I'm not burned out yet and I'm sure it's the same for a lot of endgame players.
Sometimes may need extra time than others but reliable and have best heal reverse value
Honarable mention HT