Best Counter for Serpent?

Polygon

In BGs.

Also, is Kushala better than Chavez since Chavez can take a while if she doesnt crit on the sp2 and the crit damage resistance?

Wolf911

Kushala

Unduped serpent - KUSHALA

Duped serpent - BAN

houndogακι

Kushala

Symbiote Supreme is a great option too

ItsClobberinTime

Shathra

I'm fully aware she's not even out yet but hear me out, she has dot and it looked pretty damn good on the deep dive. I'm fully aware Kushala has dot too but here's the thing, she still has to wait out the death immunity buff fully, with Shathra it won't even last 3 seconds even if it's a sig 200 Serpent so for that reason alone I'm gonna say Shathra.

Glassback

Kushala

We’re high level war and my account suggests I’m a better player than I really am, only got my first war solo against serpent yesterday using kush😬
Didn’t seem like I had to wait out the death immunity buff tho, he regened, got to three bars and then just died.

captain_rogers

Chavez

Chavez is better since kush can do nothing except wait out the death immunity

Maat1985

Chavez

massive shout out to BWCV. she totally slays him, and gets rid of his death immunity.
between BWCV, chavez, kush and luke i have little problem with him recently.

captain_rogers

Chavez

Maat1985 said:

massive shout out to BWCV. she totally slays him, and gets rid of his death immunity.
between BWCV, chavez, kush and luke i have little problem with him recently.

If we talk outside bg matches them Doom is easily the best counter, despite serpent's stun immunity. There is literally no way you can lose any health with doom even if you play poor.

Avnish

Chavez

Chavez is good counter for him... because she control the power as well. And continuous power gain one of his annoying ability.. kushala work as well. But IMO chavez would be no 1

ItsClobberinTime

Shathra

Did nobody watch the deep dive? 💀

Prentex

Human Torch with pre fight works well also, but yeah you have to out death immunity

Friendly001

Luke Cage

Talha305Raja

Luke Cage/HT/White Tiger/WWBN/Sassy/Sym Supreme/Wiccan are some other good options

Maat1985

Chavez

ItsClobberinTime said:

Did nobody watch the deep dive? 💀

i did watch the deep dive but its hard to say objectively or subjectively someone is the best counter when we have not been able to try or see others try.

AcidBurn404

ban hammer

BigBlueOx

Chavez

Chavez is the only mystic that can completely mitigate the power gain without any stress. She is by far the safest any where he’s not stun immune. Then its Kushala, honorable mention for Doom’s power control too, even without the cycle he’s going to be pretty safe

Grand_Master_17

Kushala

my go-to-counter is not one y'all must have used, but i use human torch
serpents sp1 gives me 5 smoulder charges and 20 temp
with prefight this fight is a nice one, also rn we got science meta so he cooks...
but still fighting against a 7* serpent who has block penetration stat focus is a pain
(my human torch is 6* r5 )

Wolf911

Kushala

captain_rogers said:

Chavez is better since kush can do nothing except wait out the death immunity

she can block unblockable attacks

she can regen block damage

she can reduce Ability power rate by 45% ( not as good as chavez but still... )

she can prevent him from gaining ANY health during death immunity with Despair

she can just nullify his power gain and True Focus buffs

doesn't rely on crits

MorningstarIsBae

its Tigra but ok

Nemesis_17

Chavez

Chavez is by far the safest, and probably the only champ that a lot of more casual players are comfortable in using for serpent.

Emilia90

No one mentioning my goat spidey supreme so I’ll throw his name here. Serpent gains no power against him and Spidey steals all the power that he gains. Death immunity phase is a joke because you rapidly gain power while serpent gains nothing from it. Good enough damage to burst him down faster than most 7* r3’s

shield311

Kushala

Idk but doom worked well for me tbh, I have no idea about how serpent works or what his mechanics are but I juet went up against a 6r5a serpent with doom and it turned out pretty well, slow fight and 45k pts

T-DeAdLY-J

White Tiger all the way. I found her so much easier to use and she also heals herself. I rarely lose with her.

willrun4adonut

Chavez

Could someone give a brief rundown on how each counters Serpent? For example, when I use Kushala, 7r2), I don't do well because he still gains power quickly and stalls for time, plus I can't stop him from getting to a sp3 when his sig activates.

JackTheSnack

Might catch some hate for this….but maybe it’ll get some agrees. Mordo is actually a really solid serpent counter believe it or not

Nemesis_17

Chavez

willrun4adonut said:

Could someone give a brief rundown on how each counters Serpent? For example, when I use Kushala, 7r2), I don't do well because he still gains power quickly and stalls for time, plus I can't stop him from getting to a sp3 when his sig activates.

Kushala is mostly nice for the block damage mitigation and actually has enough damage to take him down jn a decent speed. If you have an intercept blessing up then the ai is more aggressive and should be more encouraged to throw specials, though with all his power gain landing an intercept is not the easiest. She’s not as safe as Chavez but does generally work.

FeydRautha

Chavez

BigBlueOx said:

Chavez is the only mystic that can completely mitigate the power gain without any stress. She is by far the safest any where he’s not stun immune. Then its Kushala, honorable mention for Doom’s power control too, even without the cycle he’s going to be pretty safe

Stun immunity is just a minor inconvenience cause her heavy reach is good plus Serpent's heavy is very easy to punish. I've been cooking r3 boss in aw without much trouble ever since I r3 Chavez.

Yuvraj_267

Tigra, she cheezes her and his specials isn't even hit her so you are secured from even the chip block damage from serpent.
So she is best, atleast in BGs. However it is only worked for extremely skilled players.

EdisonLaw

Chavez

Chavez is the only one here that can reverse his power gain.

Besides him, has anyone tried Sorcerer Supreme? She has regen on block and has a reliable nullify

ItsClobberinTime

Shathra

Maat1985 said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

Did nobody watch the deep dive? 💀

i did watch the deep dive but its hard to say objectively or subjectively someone is the best counter when we have not been able to try or see others try.

Yeah but if you have good enough game knowledge and can do the Math yourself, you can have a pretty good idea. The atrophy Shathra has is better than anything the other two have, and the dot is better as well unless it's a meta that supercharges Kushala.
I'll make sure I necro this thread in two weeks when Shathra's out and I'm right though lmao.

BigTuna_2054

Chavez

Your choices are limited and the best and fastest counter isn’t even an option. It’s duped white tiger hands down. It’s not even a competition really. She’s absolutely the fastest counter.