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Have you been encountering intercept whiffing?

Normax_XNormax_X Member Posts: 690 ★★★★
edited January 31 in General Discussion
Title says it all, you intercept sometimes and you clearly did it right, you can see your hit whiff/miss when it shouldnt and u get hit. Makes you lose a fight for just existing, This only adds more to the increase risk of intercepts with the new AI walking up to you when u go for light intercepts

Have you been encountering intercept whiffing? 158 votes

Yes its been happening
95%
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No you just bad
4%
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  • BeastDadBeastDad Member Posts: 2,426 ★★★★★
    Yes its been happening
    You run into the opponent like they are not there, and then they start a fresh combo on you.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 3,012 ★★★★★
    It's impossible to know what people mean about this topic without a video.
    And the last time someone posted a video, what it showed them doing wasn't even an intercept, they just dashed across the screen with the AI sitting waiting for them and got easily and predictably countered.
    But then 90% of the comments were like, "Oh yeah, intercept is a scam, this happens to me too."
    And the couple of people who tried to explain that this wasn't even an intercept attempt, just bad playing, they got downvoted into oblivion.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 3,012 ★★★★★
    Normax_X said:

    TotemCorruption said:

    It's impossible to know what people mean about this topic without a video.
    And the last time someone posted a video, what it showed them doing wasn't even an intercept, they just dashed across the screen with the AI sitting waiting for them and got easily and predictably countered.
    But then 90% of the comments were like, "Oh yeah, intercept is a scam, this happens to me too."
    And the couple of people who tried to explain that this wasn't even an intercept attempt, just bad playing, they got downvoted into oblivion.

    because its inconsistent lol unless u record every single fight you do you cant get a video, but everyone is explaining it the same way as the animation is finishing but it still didnt connect
    I miss a lot of intercepts all the time, so I can't use myself as a test, but I watch the top streamers play live and I don't see them running into these constant issues of the game being unplayable and the AI being impossible. And I don't mean like the CC beta, I mean normal streamers playing regular live content like you and me.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,161 ★★★★★
    Yes its been happening
    Yep, it's REALLY bad. And it's so unpredictable.

    I hate being 'forced' to play "Parry+hit" but using champions that require constant intercepts makes them unreliable. Sucks I can't even effectively use some of my favorite characters.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 3,012 ★★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I know exactly what a successful medium intercept feels like after 9 years. They are failing at a meaningful rate (maybe 1 out of every 20 or 25?). I’m frequently having to analyze the HUD to see if I missed a falter or untouchable because what should have been a clean intercept whiffed and I got hit in the face.

    A true coding glitch that happens this infrequently (4% or 5% of the time) is unlikely unless it's part of a rare AI interaction. This is why when I watch streamers play, they don't say the AI is broken or that there is an AI intercept glitch happening in the game.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,161 ★★★★★
    Yes its been happening
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I know exactly what a successful medium intercept feels like after 9 years. They are failing at a meaningful rate (maybe 1 out of every 20 or 25?). I’m frequently having to analyze the HUD to see if I missed a falter or untouchable because what should have been a clean intercept whiffed and I got hit in the face.

    Honestly to me it feels like 1 in 10 more than 1 in 25.
  • PenzitoPenzito Member Posts: 178 ★★
    Yes its been happening
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I know exactly what a successful medium intercept feels like after 9 years. They are failing at a meaningful rate (maybe 1 out of every 20 or 25?). I’m frequently having to analyze the HUD to see if I missed a falter or untouchable because what should have been a clean intercept whiffed and I got hit in the face.

    For myself it is more frequent then that. My hunch is something like 20%, but it's so hard to tell because it's just so random. Seeing it in arena with the easiest gameplay is what makes my brain go wtf is going on.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 3,012 ★★★★★
    Penzito said:

    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I know exactly what a successful medium intercept feels like after 9 years. They are failing at a meaningful rate (maybe 1 out of every 20 or 25?). I’m frequently having to analyze the HUD to see if I missed a falter or untouchable because what should have been a clean intercept whiffed and I got hit in the face.

    For myself it is more frequent then that. My hunch is something like 20%, but it's so hard to tell because it's just so random. Seeing it in arena with the easiest gameplay is what makes my brain go wtf is going on.
    The fact that even the people in this thread are giving highly varying ranges from 4% to 10% to even 20% is even more proof that this isn't a real AI glitch but rather a mix of frustration, cognitive bias, and natural AI adjustments to predictable player behavior.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,726 ★★★★★
    Yes its been happening
    TotemCorruption said:

    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I know exactly what a successful medium intercept feels like after 9 years. They are failing at a meaningful rate (maybe 1 out of every 20 or 25?). I’m frequently having to analyze the HUD to see if I missed a falter or untouchable because what should have been a clean intercept whiffed and I got hit in the face.

    A true coding glitch that happens this infrequently (4% or 5% of the time) is unlikely unless it's part of a rare AI interaction. This is why when I watch streamers play, they don't say the AI is broken or that there is an AI intercept glitch happening in the game.
    No idea why it is happening. Seems like it jumped up considerably with 60fps.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 3,012 ★★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    TotemCorruption said:

    Penzito said:

    Herbal_Taxman said:

    I know exactly what a successful medium intercept feels like after 9 years. They are failing at a meaningful rate (maybe 1 out of every 20 or 25?). I’m frequently having to analyze the HUD to see if I missed a falter or untouchable because what should have been a clean intercept whiffed and I got hit in the face.

    For myself it is more frequent then that. My hunch is something like 20%, but it's so hard to tell because it's just so random. Seeing it in arena with the easiest gameplay is what makes my brain go wtf is going on.
    The fact that even the people in this thread are giving highly varying ranges from 4% to 10% to even 20% is even more proof that this isn't a real AI glitch but rather a mix of frustration, cognitive bias, and natural AI adjustments to predictable player behavior.
    I may not be able to say why it’s happening but I’d say your conclusion is completely wrong. I know what I’m seeing when it happens, even if I’m not willing to become an amateur data collector in order to help Kabam fix something they themselves have acknowledger to be an issue. Call it a bug, call it a hit box problem, call it AI, I don’t care…
    Well, that literally just demonstrates the frustration and cognitive bias I was talking about in real time.

    1. You admit you can't explain why it's happening or why people who agree with you have wildly varying % estimates, but you still insist it's happening, which is an emotional stance, not a logical one.

    2. You appeal to your own perceptions, which is a classic subjective fallacy; just because you perceive something doesn't mean it's objectively true. That's just basic neurology.

    3. Then you shift the burden on Kabam to provide the evidence to prove an assertion that you yourself are the one alleging is true, with no actual evidence other than your own feelings.

  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,726 ★★★★★
    Yes its been happening
    If someone is playing the game frequently and doesn’t recognize the interaction that OP is referring to…? I would guess that person isn’t able to distinguish what’s really going on in a fight.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 3,012 ★★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    Yeah, whatever you say, dude who’s been playing less than a year. Just because I don’t want to be an intern to help Kabam fix their problems, doesn’t mean I’m not correct about what’s happening in the game. The idea that because everyone has a different experience or recollection of the problem, it’s all a hallucination? For everyone? Get out of here, bro.

    Ok, so basically you never wanted to engage in a discussion, you just wanted confirmation of your own beliefs. And your responses are all deflections (my experience level, even though I pointed to experienced streamers, not my own playing, etc.).
    Anyway, I apologize for interrupting this echo chamber. Carry on, fellows.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,726 ★★★★★
    Yes its been happening
    No, I am okay to discuss it. I shouldn’t have been rude about it. My read of your initial response was a bunch of flimsy psych generalizations that were intended to gaslight everybody because we don’t have some standard of documentation. I spend money with Kabam. I already have to deal with the bugs, I’m not putting in effort to document them as well.
  • Will3808Will3808 Member Posts: 4,280 ★★★★★
    Yes its been happening
    It seems to happen to me unless I’m intercepting on the very front end of the opponents attack. It’s happening so much that I’m hesitant to intercept at this point. It better be fixed or at least addressed before epoch of pain comes out.
  • Hulk808Hulk808 Member Posts: 281 ★★
    Yes its been happening
    Out of the 8 years I’ve been playing this game, this is the most glitchy it has ever been. They haven’t even fixed the friends list scrolling yet…
  • IAmGrO_ot78IAmGrO_ot78 Member Posts: 240 ★★
    Yes its been happening
    Not only is interception off, so is parry and blocking. The spacing seems slightly off, and it causes a lot of problems.

    I only do the bare minimum atm, I deleted my mini account, and I’m thinking about a long break or just deleting my 7.3 mill Valiant account to. Just tired of this never ending story about bugs that never gets fixed.
  • Potatoslice500Potatoslice500 Member Posts: 339 ★★
    Yes its been happening
    On mediums, not lights
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,362 ★★★★★
    Yes its been happening
    AI issue
  • jdschwjdschw Member Posts: 613 ★★★
    Yes its been happening
    In my experience, thus is particularly noticeable and repeatable with Peni.

    Additionally, i don't think it's intercepts per se. I think the attacker's medium dash attack is simply whiffing sometimes. If this occurs when the defender is also dashing in, it looks like an intercept issue. But i have also seen it happen repeatedly when interrupting a defender's multi-hit heavy with a medium dash. My medium dash whiffs, and the peni stands there defenseless while the opponent finishes their heavy animation and hits me.

    I easily reproduced it several times with NTW, who has a very long pause between her first and second heavy hits.
  • Vikings27Vikings27 Member Posts: 41 ★
    Yes its been happening
    My alliance has been noticing this the last month as well. I've played two accounts for about 9 years now and this is the first time this issue has happened. I hoped the last update would fix it, but still my medium that should intercept the defender just swings and misses and then I get pummeled.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,161 ★★★★★
    Yes its been happening
    Honestly, banish me from the Traitors castle...but I feel like im facing this every match.

    This reffing issue made me lose 9.1.2, and I haven't event made it to the boss yet.
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