Have you been encountering intercept whiffing?

Title says it all, you intercept sometimes and you clearly did it right, you can see your hit whiff/miss when it shouldnt and u get hit. Makes you lose a fight for just existing, This only adds more to the increase risk of intercepts with the new AI walking up to you when u go for light intercepts

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TheUglyone123

I feel like it’s been happening way more. I feel like I my medium intercept is finished with its animation, where it should have hit the opponent, and I just get smacked. Particularly in war and BGs.

BeastDad

You run into the opponent like they are not there, and then they start a fresh combo on you.

TotemCorruption

It's impossible to know what people mean about this topic without a video.
And the last time someone posted a video, what it showed them doing wasn't even an intercept, they just dashed across the screen with the AI sitting waiting for them and got easily and predictably countered.
But then 90% of the comments were like, "Oh yeah, intercept is a scam, this happens to me too."
And the couple of people who tried to explain that this wasn't even an intercept attempt, just bad playing, they got downvoted into oblivion.

Normax_X

because its inconsistent lol unless u record every single fight you do you cant get a video, but everyone is explaining it the same way as the animation is finishing but it still didnt connect

Penzito

I know exactly what you mean. Playing this game for years and years, you know what feels right and wrong. For myself the controls, AI and lag are near the worst ever, even worse then compensation days. Most of it started in the last update, but I guess I'm in the minority.

I'd roll back the update, it has even found its way to arena. That used to be a safe haven from the rest of the chaos.

TotemCorruption

I miss a lot of intercepts all the time, so I can't use myself as a test, but I watch the top streamers play live and I don't see them running into these constant issues of the game being unplayable and the AI being impossible. And I don't mean like the CC beta, I mean normal streamers playing regular live content like you and me.

Herbal_Taxman

I know exactly what a successful medium intercept feels like after 9 years. They are failing at a meaningful rate (maybe 1 out of every 20 or 25?). I’m frequently having to analyze the HUD to see if I missed a falter or untouchable because what should have been a clean intercept whiffed and I got hit in the face.

Usagicassidy

Yep, it's REALLY bad. And it's so unpredictable.

I hate being 'forced' to play "Parry+hit" but using champions that require constant intercepts makes them unreliable. Sucks I can't even effectively use some of my favorite characters.

TotemCorruption

A true coding glitch that happens this infrequently (4% or 5% of the time) is unlikely unless it's part of a rare AI interaction. This is why when I watch streamers play, they don't say the AI is broken or that there is an AI intercept glitch happening in the game.

Usagicassidy

Honestly to me it feels like 1 in 10 more than 1 in 25.

Penzito

For myself it is more frequent then that. My hunch is something like 20%, but it's so hard to tell because it's just so random. Seeing it in arena with the easiest gameplay is what makes my brain go wtf is going on.

TotemCorruption

The fact that even the people in this thread are giving highly varying ranges from 4% to 10% to even 20% is even more proof that this isn't a real AI glitch but rather a mix of frustration, cognitive bias, and natural AI adjustments to predictable player behavior.

Herbal_Taxman

No idea why it is happening. Seems like it jumped up considerably with 60fps.

Herbal_Taxman

I may not be able to say why it’s happening but I’d say your conclusion is completely wrong. I know what I’m seeing when it happens, even if I’m not willing to become an amateur data collector in order to help Kabam fix something they themselves have acknowledger to be an issue. Call it a bug, call it a hit box problem, call it AI, I don’t care…

TotemCorruption

Well, that literally just demonstrates the frustration and cognitive bias I was talking about in real time.

1. You admit you can't explain why it's happening or why people who agree with you have wildly varying % estimates, but you still insist it's happening, which is an emotional stance, not a logical one.

2. You appeal to your own perceptions, which is a classic subjective fallacy; just because you perceive something doesn't mean it's objectively true. That's just basic neurology.

3. Then you shift the burden on Kabam to provide the evidence to prove an assertion that you yourself are the one alleging is true, with no actual evidence other than your own feelings.

Herbal_Taxman

Yeah, whatever you say, dude who’s been playing less than a year. Just because I don’t want to be an intern to help Kabam fix their problems, doesn’t mean I’m not correct about what’s happening in the game. The idea that because everyone has a different experience or recollection of the problem, it’s all a hallucination? For everyone? Get out of here, bro.

Perfect_jab

If i dont record every fight i do an then edit the recordings an show clips of all the times it happens in all these fights then its just players being fustrated an directing anger towards kabam. Good one. Smh. I guess 10yrs of playing the game an then noticing obvious changes could not happen. An not everyone will experience it the same.

Herbal_Taxman

If someone is playing the game frequently and doesn’t recognize the interaction that OP is referring to…? I would guess that person isn’t able to distinguish what’s really going on in a fight.

FeydRautha

It almost feels like the opponent has a hidden miss mechanic although I'm very certain about my intercept timing. Very frustrating in bgs where a small mistake can cost you the match.

TotemCorruption

Ok, so basically you never wanted to engage in a discussion, you just wanted confirmation of your own beliefs. And your responses are all deflections (my experience level, even though I pointed to experienced streamers, not my own playing, etc.).
Anyway, I apologize for interrupting this echo chamber. Carry on, fellows.

Herbal_Taxman

No, I am okay to discuss it. I shouldn’t have been rude about it. My read of your initial response was a bunch of flimsy psych generalizations that were intended to gaslight everybody because we don’t have some standard of documentation. I spend money with Kabam. I already have to deal with the bugs, I’m not putting in effort to document them as well.

Will3808

It seems to happen to me unless I’m intercepting on the very front end of the opponents attack. It’s happening so much that I’m hesitant to intercept at this point. It better be fixed or at least addressed before epoch of pain comes out.

FeydRautha

Not only are you in the minority here I also don't see you providing any evidence that suggests that it's actually not happening. Your literal argument is that "because it's not happening to me everyone that says it's happening is just hallucinating."

Hulk808

Out of the 8 years I’ve been playing this game, this is the most glitchy it has ever been. They haven’t even fixed the friends list scrolling yet…

IAmGrO_ot78

Not only is interception off, so is parry and blocking. The spacing seems slightly off, and it causes a lot of problems.

I only do the bare minimum atm, I deleted my mini account, and I’m thinking about a long break or just deleting my 7.3 mill Valiant account to. Just tired of this never ending story about bugs that never gets fixed.

Potatoslice500

On mediums, not lights

EdisonLaw

AI issue

jdschw

In my experience, thus is particularly noticeable and repeatable with Peni.

Additionally, i don't think it's intercepts per se. I think the attacker's medium dash attack is simply whiffing sometimes. If this occurs when the defender is also dashing in, it looks like an intercept issue. But i have also seen it happen repeatedly when interrupting a defender's multi-hit heavy with a medium dash. My medium dash whiffs, and the peni stands there defenseless while the opponent finishes their heavy animation and hits me.

I easily reproduced it several times with NTW, who has a very long pause between her first and second heavy hits.

Vikings27

My alliance has been noticing this the last month as well. I've played two accounts for about 9 years now and this is the first time this issue has happened. I hoped the last update would fix it, but still my medium that should intercept the defender just swings and misses and then I get pummeled.

Usagicassidy

Honestly, banish me from the Traitors castle...but I feel like im facing this every match.

This reffing issue made me lose 9.1.2, and I haven't event made it to the boss yet.