This game is in such a weird place…

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  • PseudouberPseudouber Member Posts: 866 ★★★
    edited February 13

    Buttehrs said:

    What's the issue then? That's always how this game has gone on every month for 10 years now. BGs is the only new thing and that's over 2 years old now too. Well most likely have seasons of pain etc again.

    EQ and SQ haven’t been relevant for 10 years? Come on. Even crashed said it’s unacceptable where that stuff is. If EQ and SQ were relevant like they used to be, I wouldn’t have mentioned it. The problem isn’t that they exist… it’s that they are pointless.
    They made it irrelevant by not updating it. I would hardly say SQ is irrelevant, it just take a long time to come out. Everyone hops on an mashes it as soon as it available. I would say SQ is the only thing that's actually fun anymore for people that don't like this long form BS they keep throwing out. I actually feel like most people don't actually like it as much as you think. Its just the only thing to do. It seems like it just created for the elites and people with YouTube channels. Most people do like 1 lane just to get completion reward and then it sucked so bad they never want to do it again and the content just sits.
    Sorry I meant Story mode not SQ, we need more side stuff at this difficulty. Its just fun and you get worthy rewards.
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,323 ★★★★★
    Just curious @Chuck_Finley, is there anything you like about the game?
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 878 ★★★

    Asher1_1 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Why don't u just keep silent & grind units ??

    Bg off-season - some casual free time
    War off-season - some free time
    No content to do just stack up your revives + potion & prep for your run .

    Why do u need content after content ?? It will just create stress for kabam & players to catch-up & FOMO of doing it.
    It's a normal ez time just let it be .

    Kabam & there Developer are also humans they also need time for there loved ones during valentine's.

    “Content after content…”

    Boy, you pummeled that strawman. He is down and out. Probably out of revives too. Well done.

    “Just stack your revives for your run”

    Again - some of us out here don’t find unitman enjoyable. If that’s what Kabam wants - MCOC EVEREST CONTENT OF CHAMPIONS- then let the rest of us know, and I will quit monetizing the game. Maybe that’s just what you want -who knows? For starters, It seems to contradict Kabam Crashed’s comments on monthly content being woefully behind what it should be… just sayin’
    If u are not enjoying & not in the race then who is let me guess
    Who are in the prestige - they would like to spend money
    Who are in top aw alliance - they would like to spend money
    Who are in BG alliance - they would like to spend money

    It's ok as small amount contribute to something.
    EQ + SQ + incursion + Arena + Endgame content evrything takes time effort to build but it takes few seconds to say not worth it.

    If majority players haven't reached there so there is too much for players to do 🤷 isn't that contradict your point if someone haven't done story , carina challenge or even necro - they have way too much stacked up to do
    Listen to him guys
    all you have to do is spend money and you'll find the game enjoyable 😯😯😯😯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
    Proof - dumb people exist .

    He said he will quit monitizing - that's the point even small spender account to something like the platinum pass if more people buy it still becomes a significant amount.

    That's just your statement - every word.

    For ref - I am 100% f2p & 9+ years of playing
    Dawg what are you trying to say 😭
    That u are a dog 😂
  • Phantøm_EchøPhantøm_Echø Member Posts: 147 ★★
    edited February 14

    DNA3000 said:

    There's a huge gap between Thronebreaker difficulty event quest and Epoch of Pain for valiants with nothing in between to fill the gap

    Err, maybe try doing Act 8, Act 9, Necropolis, a bunch of the Carinas are easier than Epoch, Grandmaster's Gauntlet, Eternity of Pain, and I would say the Crucible is easier than Epoch looks to be.

    If you're fully explored all of that, then yes there's nothing in between TBEQ and Epoch. But not because there's nothing to fill the gap, but rather because you've exhausted all the content in the gap.
    Yeah, but that shouldn't be happening should it? A game is meant to be entertaining, and that means regularly pumping out content that the playerbase will enjoy. If you've exhausted all content for an extended period of time as an average to above-average player, that doesn't mean you're progressing too fast; it means the game isn't creating new content regularly enough.
    But maybe it's this set flow of content that has kept it alive for 10 years...? And if they change anything, they might potentially run the risk of altering the steady trajectory they currently have
  • AcidBurn404AcidBurn404 Member Posts: 364 ★★
    Let’s not forget the point of this game is just letting you have action over your favorite marvel characters. Just have fun and chill wherever you feel like.
  • Chuck_FinleyChuck_Finley Member Posts: 1,621 ★★★★★
    edited February 14

    DNA3000 said:

    There's a huge gap between Thronebreaker difficulty event quest and Epoch of Pain for valiants with nothing in between to fill the gap

    Err, maybe try doing Act 8, Act 9, Necropolis, a bunch of the Carinas are easier than Epoch, Grandmaster's Gauntlet, Eternity of Pain, and I would say the Crucible is easier than Epoch looks to be.

    If you're fully explored all of that, then yes there's nothing in between TBEQ and Epoch. But not because there's nothing to fill the gap, but rather because you've exhausted all the content in the gap.
    Yeah, but that shouldn't be happening should it? A game is meant to be entertaining, and that means regularly pumping out content that the playerbase will enjoy. If you've exhausted all content for an extended period of time as an average to above-average player, that doesn't mean you're progressing too fast; it means the game isn't creating new content regularly enough.
    Exactly this. The alternative is for Kabam to put up a banner after a certain point in your account that says - “you probably should consider creating an alt account if you still enjoy the game, because you are done here.”

    BG’s can help fill the reasonable gaps when they occur (the EQ and SQ iterations aren’t reasonable), but you have to keep the rewards relevant. Even that is being neglected.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 11,523 ★★★★★
    They are telling this same story of "EQ is stalr and we're working on it" Over a year now. I completely enjoy everest content unlike you, even if it was a mindless revive sink, But I understand, the game should cater to all players, and should update all areas in the game.

    1 year already they introduced traders outpost and still no buff on it. But we got 3 new everest content already by then (crucible, necro challenge and epoch).
  • FrostGiantLordFrostGiantLord Member Posts: 2,199 ★★★★

    DNA3000 said:

    There's a huge gap between Thronebreaker difficulty event quest and Epoch of Pain for valiants with nothing in between to fill the gap

    Err, maybe try doing Act 8, Act 9, Necropolis, a bunch of the Carinas are easier than Epoch, Grandmaster's Gauntlet, Eternity of Pain, and I would say the Crucible is easier than Epoch looks to be.

    If you're fully explored all of that, then yes there's nothing in between TBEQ and Epoch. But not because there's nothing to fill the gap, but rather because you've exhausted all the content in the gap.
    Yeah, but that shouldn't be happening should it? A game is meant to be entertaining, and that means regularly pumping out content that the playerbase will enjoy. If you've exhausted all content for an extended period of time as an average to above-average player, that doesn't mean you're progressing too fast; it means the game isn't creating new content regularly enough.
    But maybe it's this set flow of content that has kept it alive for 10 years...? And if they change anything, they might potentially run the risk of altering the steady trajectory they currently have
    You're right about there being a flow, but it's just not a very good or consistent one. I can't speak for anyone else, but I think pumping new everest content once every year and a bit is definitely not enough, especially if there's basically no other forms of new content to keep the playerbase occupied. There has been a steady trajectory this past 10 years, it's just been much faster than what we have now
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,168 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    What's the issue then? That's always how this game has gone on every month for 10 years now. BGs is the only new thing and that's over 2 years old now too. Well most likely have seasons of pain etc again.

    I started in April 2017. I think we had a lunar new year AND a romance quest of some sort every year. At a minimum we had one of those. This year? Nothing. Especially frustrating because those potions and units would be great to grab before diving into Ares.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,168 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    What's the issue then? That's always how this game has gone on every month for 10 years now. BGs is the only new thing and that's over 2 years old now too. Well most likely have seasons of pain etc again.

    EQ and SQ haven’t been relevant for 10 years? Come on. Even crashed said it’s unacceptable where that stuff is. If EQ and SQ were relevant like they used to be, I wouldn’t have mentioned it. The problem isn’t that they exist… it’s that they are pointless.
    They made it irrelevant by not updating it. I would hardly say SQ is irrelevant, it just take a long time to come out. Everyone hops on an mashes it as soon as it available. I would say SQ is the only thing that's actually fun anymore for people that don't like this long form BS they keep throwing out. I actually feel like most people don't actually like it as much as you think. Its just the only thing to do. It seems like it just created for the elites and people with YouTube channels. Most people do like 1 lane just to get completion reward and then it sucked so bad they never want to do it again and the content just sits.
    I get 2 t6b and 2 t3a from the shop each week and that’s it. I can’t even get t6cc from the shop, much less t4a. I’ve got 18 r3 champs and I’ll be at 20 by the end of the weekend.

    I get 21x 5% t6cc from the daily event, and 87% of a t4a every week (50% bg store, 15% glory, all the daily events)
  • KerneasKerneas Member Posts: 3,879 ★★★★★
    I've been around since 2015, here since 2018 I think.

    There was always some high-endgame content released, that majority of players couldn't do. There always had to be some chase for the best of the best. There is nothing wrong with that.

    However, I agree that EQ is very much stale. The rewards we get from Paragon gauntlet can be gained every week from SQ. The only difference is, that Gauntlet requires exploring TB difficulty with obsolete rewards, whereas SQ can be completed within an hour.

    Personally, I have decided to finish Act 6 exploration. I am a Valiant player and there's nothing better to do. I don't have the roster or skill to do high-endgame, so EoP isn't doable for me rn. I don't wanna explore Necro, and BGs (aka loading simulator) are not my cuppa - that's on me tho. Not a complaint. With Act 8+9.1 explored, the only way to widen my roster is DSE and SQ.

    Basically what Kabam did, is they made 7* r3 widely available, and then they never released a reaonably hard content for them. On one hand you have high-endgame stuff that requires exceptional skill levels (or major investments), or you can do trivial content. Nothing between these two.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,369 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    There's a huge gap between Thronebreaker difficulty event quest and Epoch of Pain for valiants with nothing in between to fill the gap

    Err, maybe try doing Act 8, Act 9, Necropolis, a bunch of the Carinas are easier than Epoch, Grandmaster's Gauntlet, Eternity of Pain, and I would say the Crucible is easier than Epoch looks to be.

    If you're fully explored all of that, then yes there's nothing in between TBEQ and Epoch. But not because there's nothing to fill the gap, but rather because you've exhausted all the content in the gap.
    Yeah, but that shouldn't be happening should it? A game is meant to be entertaining, and that means regularly pumping out content that the playerbase will enjoy. If you've exhausted all content for an extended period of time as an average to above-average player, that doesn't mean you're progressing too fast; it means the game isn't creating new content regularly enough.
    Yeah, in a perfect world everyone would have content designed just for them, that would be entertaining specifically to them. But in the real world, no game studio can devote that much time to every 1% slice of their player population.

    Plus, this whole notion of "games are meant to be entertaining" is backwards. Games aren't meant to be entertaining. You're meant to find the games that are entertaining to you. Is Chess entertaining? Is soccer? Is cribbage, ping pong, baseball, gin rummy, RISK, water polo, Space Invaders, Go? When you say a game is meant to be entertaining, do you specifically mean all games everywhere must be entertaining to you all of the time?

    More than 99% of all the games ever invented I don't find particularly entertaining. More than 99% of all video games ever created I don't find particularly entertaining. But that's not because most games are broken. Some of them are, because almost no one likes them. But most are entertaining to some, and not to others.
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 5,719 ★★★★★

    Just curious @Chuck_Finley, is there anything you like about the game?

    If I tell you.. would you believe me?
    Just the other day I had 100% positive game experience thread
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/388782/an-unexpected-tale-of-acquiring-one-of-your-favorite-champs#latest

    I enjoy saga incursions.
    That's because incursions is dope.

  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 1,322 ★★★★
    Asher1_1 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Why don't u just keep silent & grind units ??

    Bg off-season - some casual free time
    War off-season - some free time
    No content to do just stack up your revives + potion & prep for your run .

    Why do u need content after content ?? It will just create stress for kabam & players to catch-up & FOMO of doing it.
    It's a normal ez time just let it be .

    Kabam & there Developer are also humans they also need time for there loved ones during valentine's.

    “Content after content…”

    Boy, you pummeled that strawman. He is down and out. Probably out of revives too. Well done.

    “Just stack your revives for your run”

    Again - some of us out here don’t find unitman enjoyable. If that’s what Kabam wants - MCOC EVEREST CONTENT OF CHAMPIONS- then let the rest of us know, and I will quit monetizing the game. Maybe that’s just what you want -who knows? For starters, It seems to contradict Kabam Crashed’s comments on monthly content being woefully behind what it should be… just sayin’
    If u are not enjoying & not in the race then who is let me guess
    Who are in the prestige - they would like to spend money
    Who are in top aw alliance - they would like to spend money
    Who are in BG alliance - they would like to spend money

    It's ok as small amount contribute to something.
    EQ + SQ + incursion + Arena + Endgame content evrything takes time effort to build but it takes few seconds to say not worth it.

    If majority players haven't reached there so there is too much for players to do 🤷 isn't that contradict your point if someone haven't done story , carina challenge or even necro - they have way too much stacked up to do
    Listen to him guys
    all you have to do is spend money and you'll find the game enjoyable 😯😯😯😯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
    Proof - dumb people exist .

    He said he will quit monitizing - that's the point even small spender account to something like the platinum pass if more people buy it still becomes a significant amount.

    That's just your statement - every word.

    For ref - I am 100% f2p & 9+ years of playing
    F2P for 9 years. What a hero.
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