Pulse Check

ahmynuts

After talking to a couple of alliance mates and seeing some scattered comments around on various social media platforms, I wanted to do a community pulse check to see how people were feeling about the game recently.
Personally, I would normally play all the time and would grind the arena a lot to save up a bunch of units, do content as soon as it comes out, etc. But I don't even think I've logged on more than a handful of times since the last livestream to do a couple of things or even at all in the last 24 hours, and to be honest. I don't really have a desire to do so at the moment. Never in my life did I think an addiction could be broken so quickly or I could be so put off from something I loved so quickly. For more of my thoughts if you care, see my last thread about the kneejerk reaction thing or whatever i called it.

What are we feeling, everyone? Keep it civil, please.

(And for anyone who is frothing at the mouth to derail this.
1. Yes, Kabam is a business and needs to make money.
2. No, I don't have a problem with that, and I have personally spent way too much on this game.)

CandyCane2

Have a fun, safe, and relaxing March Break everyone!

BringPopcorn

I personally don't mind them selling stuff, problem is when all they want to do is sell stuff. Specially if its stuff you know nothing about yet.

Gamer

I started to get feed up with all the bug

DocWest

I am completely repulsed by the sate of the game as of late. The countless bugs that keep pouring in, the terrible communication and the constant stream of spending events has broken me. I don’t mind spending if the game is working, but it is so broken right now that I would be crazy to give them money. If we do get communication, it’s days late and full of excuses. We are still waiting on fixes for multiple bugs and I have a sinking feeling those fixes will never come.

I won’t even get started on updating rewards and how outdated everything is. Kabam can’t even get basic objectives and level up rewards to work properly. They can’t do the small things right. It’s so frustrating and disappointing to see a game I love fall apart like this. It’s such a shame. They want 10 more years and I think it will be a miracle they make it 10 more months.

BanannaPanda

One of the largest issues I’m having with all this is just a lack of communication. The community is only going based off guesswork for most of the upcoming rewards. We haven’t been told what the Hells Bell’s store contains and that unless we grab the DD Bundles it solely relies on units. Timelines on the buffs for Phoenix and Cyclops (though at least we know what to look forward to for Phoenix).
And the light essence. We have knowledge on the sources available and are told that it’s possible (but difficult) to get 12 FTP. But we don’t have an idea what quantities each area will have.

Furrymoosen

I'm a moderate spender. I've consistently had the sigil since it came out. I get the $5 unit offer every month. I've gotten every double track that has taken place (except for a period I wasn't playing). I would often indulge in an offer or two on July 4th or Cyber Weekend...

As much as I want to enjoy the benefits I get from my light spending, the state of game operation today is pathetic at best. Everything launches bugged, it takes forever to get acknowledgement, and it takes too long to get fixes (which, yes, at times is not really something they can help).

I'm not one to call for a boycott, and I'm not gonna tell anyone how to spend their money, but we need to do a better job of communicating to Kabam with our wallets. Especially as they seem to be placing a greater emphasis on what we can spend more money on, it seems like they're just trying to squeeze every penny they can until the game implodes on itself.
This laissez faire attitude that continually just kicks the can down the road to the next problem in hopes that we forget the last one is not an acceptable approach. They need to do better.

SlayerOfGods

Maybe I'm just biased but I've been burnt out for quite some time now. At least 6 months. The game and community haven't felt the same since Miike and Jax departed. It feels like there's way more issues and the communication is overall much worse. I don't want to be too much of a downer but it's kinda disheartening.

BringPopcorn

The lack of communication is beyond unreal.
Telling "Team is on it" "Team has been notified" "Looking into it" is not communicating. Its the equivalent of an automated response from support.
About the main post. When you start feeling you spent "too much" is when you stopped enjoying it unfortunately.

heehee

ahmynuts said:

After talking to a couple of alliance mates and seeing some scattered comments around on various social media platforms, I wanted to do a community pulse check to see how people were feeling about the game recently.
Personally, I would normally play all the time and would grind the arena a lot to save up a bunch of units, do content as soon as it comes out, etc. But I don't even think I've logged on more than a handful of times since the last livestream to do a couple of things or even at all in the last 24 hours, and to be honest. I don't really have a desire to do so at the moment. Never in my life did I think an addiction could be broken so quickly or I could be so put off from something I loved so quickly. For more of my thoughts if you care, see my last thread about the kneejerk reaction thing or whatever i called it.

What are we feeling, everyone? Keep it civil, please.

(And for anyone who is frothing at the mouth to derail this.
1. Yes, Kabam is a business and needs to make money.
2. No, I don't have a problem with that, and I have personally spent way too much on this game.)

I think kabam is looking for a way out and trying to kill the game as fast as they can. I doubt the game is going to be here after 10 years.
Way too many bugs and the horrible valiant rewards. There is no point in spending money especially when BG rewards are terrible. They have to buff BG rewards by next season.

heehee

SlayerOfGods said:

Maybe I'm just biased but I've been burnt out for quite some time now. At least 6 months. The game and community haven't felt the same since Miike and Jax departed. It feels like there's way more issues and the communication is overall much worse. I don't want to be too much of a downer but it's kinda disheartening.

You're not the only one here. Me and my alliance mates on discord are all feeling the same way as you do.

Bogo

Yup all good here, the usual 50bpm.
But on a real note, I don't spend so I'm not too fussed when something goes wrong as I'm not losing anything.

Furrymoosen

heehee said:

ahmynuts said:

After talking to a couple of alliance mates and seeing some scattered comments around on various social media platforms, I wanted to do a community pulse check to see how people were feeling about the game recently.
Personally, I would normally play all the time and would grind the arena a lot to save up a bunch of units, do content as soon as it comes out, etc. But I don't even think I've logged on more than a handful of times since the last livestream to do a couple of things or even at all in the last 24 hours, and to be honest. I don't really have a desire to do so at the moment. Never in my life did I think an addiction could be broken so quickly or I could be so put off from something I loved so quickly. For more of my thoughts if you care, see my last thread about the kneejerk reaction thing or whatever i called it.

What are we feeling, everyone? Keep it civil, please.

(And for anyone who is frothing at the mouth to derail this.
1. Yes, Kabam is a business and needs to make money.
2. No, I don't have a problem with that, and I have personally spent way too much on this game.)

I think kabam is looking for a way out and trying to kill the game as fast as they can. I doubt the game is going to be here after 10 years.
Way too many bugs and the horrible valiant rewards. There is no point in spending money especially when BG rewards are terrible. They have to buff BG rewards by next season.

I don't think they're trying to kill it, but I do think they either can't fix it, or for whatever reason don't want to fix it. Granted, the way the game was built lends to a good deal of the problems that it has, but there's gotta be ways to remedy that.
When everything in the game fails except purchase offers (which are definitely easier to work with than most of the stuff that has problems), it seems more like they are getting what they can out of what time they have left, waiting for the inevitable to finally happen.

SirGamesBond

Stopped caring about the grind, In a good place ever since.
I open the game, do stuff, put off by somthing, vent and let it go. Lol Never been happier!
They can do whatever they want. I truly madly deeply absolutely do not care.

I'm good at the game, and have played for so long, guess I'll keep going even at snails pace.

TotemCorruption

I find some of the issues annoying, other issues kind of trivial.
At the end of the day, I've only been playing for a year so not burned out or bored at all.
I think after another year or two I will probably be done, regardless of what they fix or don't fix.

You just can't play the same mobile game for years without being an addict. There isn't enough stimulation on a deep level, it just becomes a habit after a while.
I think it's good to quit instead of becoming a bitter veteran.
MCOC will keep going with new players. 10 years of success in their industry is almost a miracle, but it's not luck. They know what they're doing, even if what they do is infuriating to the veterans.

GroundedWisdom

I fluctuate. Sometimes I'm engaged fully, and sometimes I'm doing the minimum. It's not so much a matter of the game as it is a me thing. After almost a decade, I need to pick and choose my level of time and commitment if I want to stay interested. At the end of the day, I'm still here.

heehee

Furrymoosen said:

heehee said:

ahmynuts said:

After talking to a couple of alliance mates and seeing some scattered comments around on various social media platforms, I wanted to do a community pulse check to see how people were feeling about the game recently.
Personally, I would normally play all the time and would grind the arena a lot to save up a bunch of units, do content as soon as it comes out, etc. But I don't even think I've logged on more than a handful of times since the last livestream to do a couple of things or even at all in the last 24 hours, and to be honest. I don't really have a desire to do so at the moment. Never in my life did I think an addiction could be broken so quickly or I could be so put off from something I loved so quickly. For more of my thoughts if you care, see my last thread about the kneejerk reaction thing or whatever i called it.

What are we feeling, everyone? Keep it civil, please.

(And for anyone who is frothing at the mouth to derail this.
1. Yes, Kabam is a business and needs to make money.
2. No, I don't have a problem with that, and I have personally spent way too much on this game.)

I think kabam is looking for a way out and trying to kill the game as fast as they can. I doubt the game is going to be here after 10 years.
Way too many bugs and the horrible valiant rewards. There is no point in spending money especially when BG rewards are terrible. They have to buff BG rewards by next season.

I don't think they're trying to kill it, but I do think they either can't fix it, or for whatever reason don't want to fix it. Granted, the way the game was built lends to a good deal of the problems that it has, but there's gotta be ways to remedy that.
When everything in the game fails except purchase offers (which are definitely easier to work with than most of the stuff that has problems), it seems more like they are getting what they can out of what time they have left, waiting for the inevitable to finally happen.

I have some alliance members that already quit the game in the last two months. Me personally I'm hoping this game stays long term but realistically that won't happen. They have to do something before majority of their players quit.

ItsClobberinTime

I came back after a 4-5 month break literally last week and while I am going to stay I don't think I will spend any actual money like I had planned to do so from the beginning when I first came back.
When I returned I thought BGs rewards are probably better now, AI probably isn't as much of a pain in the ass now and even EQ and SQ have probably been buffed in terms of rewards. Come to find out not only are BGs rewards just as bad as they were when I left participation is dropping as well since I don't see Celestial players with the same amount of trophies they usually had 4-5 months ago I believe I even saw some Celestial players with barely 250 trophies. AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless. Lastly, EQ and SQ rewards are so unbelievably outdated doing both still feels like a chore which is another reason I left in the first place however if you look at money deals, the resources you get out of them are absolutely worth it I understand this whole thing is a business at the end of the day and I have no issues with people who whale out or the events that require you to whale out to get the best rewards but almost everything in the game is currently outdated and it annoys me how they refuse to acknowledge this.

I'm not leaving but I will remain a casual player until they get their s**t together, I really miss Miike and Jax almost everything in the game feels wrong since they left.

Furrymoosen

ItsClobberinTime said:

AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless.

One note on Kushala - she gets the spell regardless of which party performs the interaction. So it's not like the game read you getting the intercept and then decided not to give it to you, but you got the spell because you were intercepted.
This isn't a comment on how intercepting is objectively worse than it was, just on how Kushala specifically works.

Gentsy12

heehee said:

ahmynuts said:

After talking to a couple of alliance mates and seeing some scattered comments around on various social media platforms, I wanted to do a community pulse check to see how people were feeling about the game recently.
Personally, I would normally play all the time and would grind the arena a lot to save up a bunch of units, do content as soon as it comes out, etc. But I don't even think I've logged on more than a handful of times since the last livestream to do a couple of things or even at all in the last 24 hours, and to be honest. I don't really have a desire to do so at the moment. Never in my life did I think an addiction could be broken so quickly or I could be so put off from something I loved so quickly. For more of my thoughts if you care, see my last thread about the kneejerk reaction thing or whatever i called it.

What are we feeling, everyone? Keep it civil, please.

(And for anyone who is frothing at the mouth to derail this.
1. Yes, Kabam is a business and needs to make money.
2. No, I don't have a problem with that, and I have personally spent way too much on this game.)

I think kabam is looking for a way out and trying to kill the game as fast as they can. I doubt the game is going to be here after 10 years.
Way too many bugs and the horrible valiant rewards. There is no point in spending money especially when BG rewards are terrible. They have to buff BG rewards by next season.

I don’t think they’re trying to kill the entire game after dropping 7-figures into making it PC compatible. However, I do believe they couldn’t care less about the current state of the game while ramping up for full-scale PC launch. They are likely dedicating an immense amount of resources to PC version at the expense of fixing mobile issues.

TotemCorruption

Furrymoosen said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless.

One note on Kushala - she gets the spell regardless of which party performs the interaction. So it's not like the game read you getting the intercept and then decided not to give it to you, but you got the spell because you were intercepted.
This isn't a comment on how intercepting is objectively worse than it was, just on how Kushala specifically works.

But how many of the "this is a glitch" complaints are just lack of knowledge of the mechanics like this?
Not 100% obviously, but a large portion.
And knowledgeable players like you can correct people on the forums, but especially on reddit and elsewhere it's a runaway train of misinformation and delusion.
What does this have to do with the pulse of the game?
I think it factors into the overall sense of dissatisfaction we see on social media.

ItsClobberinTime

Furrymoosen said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless.

One note on Kushala - she gets the spell regardless of which party performs the interaction. So it's not like the game read you getting the intercept and then decided not to give it to you, but you got the spell because you were intercepted.
This isn't a comment on how intercepting is objectively worse than it was, just on how Kushala specifically works.

I see, thanks for clarifying then. Something's definitely wrong with the intercepts tho cause a lot of times I will go for my attack after the defender dashes in and I'll still get hit, I saw another thread about it here somewhere too but I can't find it.

Chuck_Finley

The biggest thing for me is the irrelevance of monthly events and even BG seasons. That’s the stuff that’s supposed to keep you logging back in. Instead, the rewards are geared to expand your 6 star roster with an occasional 7 star… which means nothing to me as valiant.

And count me in the pessimistic realm on the valiant EQ in May. The whole game is basically beta after every update, but we need a beta test for this with more waiting after? That just needs to happen permanently. The game is a snoozefest because the monthly rewards mean nothing.

captain_rogers

ItsClobberinTime said:

Furrymoosen said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless.

One note on Kushala - she gets the spell regardless of which party performs the interaction. So it's not like the game read you getting the intercept and then decided not to give it to you, but you got the spell because you were intercepted.
This isn't a comment on how intercepting is objectively worse than it was, just on how Kushala specifically works.

I see, thanks for clarifying then. Something's definitely wrong with the intercepts tho cause a lot of times I will go for my attack after the defender dashes in and I'll still get hit, I saw another thread about it here somewhere too but I can't find it.

Have you fought ares recently? He light intercept you a lot. I feel like XL champs are more likely to light intercept you compared to others, atleast that's what I usually experience.

Furrymoosen

Chuck_Finley said:

The biggest thing for me is the irrelevance of monthly events and even BG seasons. That’s the stuff that’s supposed to keep you logging back in. Instead, the rewards are geared to expand your 6 star roster with an occasional 7 star… which means nothing to me as valiant.

And count me in the pessimistic realm on the valiant EQ in May. The whole game is basically beta after every update, but we need a beta test for this with more waiting after? That just needs to happen permanently. The game is a snoozefest because the monthly rewards mean nothing.

My concern with Valiant EQ is what the rewards might be. Wouldn't be surprised to see them brag about new top rewards of 2500 7* shards and 20% of a T4A. They're good at making rewards better, but need to get better and making rewards good.

captain_rogers

The game feels pretty stale, boring and repitative. Bgs have trash rewards and it's not worth the grind, and the metas are boring as well. Lack of daily playable content like EQ makes it even boring. 2 everest content in 2 months is pretty tiresome as well, and we have another one lined up in few days. I literally don't have much to play except grinding apo and dse, bg objectives, and regular aq aw, and the occasional epoch run once a week.

BringPopcorn

Furrymoosen said:

Chuck_Finley said:

The biggest thing for me is the irrelevance of monthly events and even BG seasons. That’s the stuff that’s supposed to keep you logging back in. Instead, the rewards are geared to expand your 6 star roster with an occasional 7 star… which means nothing to me as valiant.

And count me in the pessimistic realm on the valiant EQ in May. The whole game is basically beta after every update, but we need a beta test for this with more waiting after? That just needs to happen permanently. The game is a snoozefest because the monthly rewards mean nothing.

My concern with Valiant EQ is what the rewards might be. Wouldn't be surprised to see them brag about new top rewards of 2500 7* shards and 20% of a T4A. They're good at making rewards better, but need to get better and making rewards good.

Don't get ahead, its not even a permanent update. They made it clear it was just a test. I can be cynical and skeptical to say the first test might be decent in rewards as an intro and then be balanced out or viceversa.

captain_rogers

BringPopcorn said:

Furrymoosen said:

Chuck_Finley said:

The biggest thing for me is the irrelevance of monthly events and even BG seasons. That’s the stuff that’s supposed to keep you logging back in. Instead, the rewards are geared to expand your 6 star roster with an occasional 7 star… which means nothing to me as valiant.

And count me in the pessimistic realm on the valiant EQ in May. The whole game is basically beta after every update, but we need a beta test for this with more waiting after? That just needs to happen permanently. The game is a snoozefest because the monthly rewards mean nothing.

My concern with Valiant EQ is what the rewards might be. Wouldn't be surprised to see them brag about new top rewards of 2500 7* shards and 20% of a T4A. They're good at making rewards better, but need to get better and making rewards good.

Don't get ahead, its not even a permanent update. They made it clear it was just a test. I can be cynical and skeptical to say the first test might be decent in rewards as an intro and then be balanced out or viceversa.

We are likely going to get one good reward Valiant EQ on may, then they go for their usual "research" And return the same reward and format, everything unchanged, 6 month later when the rewards become pretty mid.

TotemCorruption

captain_rogers said:

BringPopcorn said:

Furrymoosen said:

Chuck_Finley said:

The biggest thing for me is the irrelevance of monthly events and even BG seasons. That’s the stuff that’s supposed to keep you logging back in. Instead, the rewards are geared to expand your 6 star roster with an occasional 7 star… which means nothing to me as valiant.

And count me in the pessimistic realm on the valiant EQ in May. The whole game is basically beta after every update, but we need a beta test for this with more waiting after? That just needs to happen permanently. The game is a snoozefest because the monthly rewards mean nothing.

My concern with Valiant EQ is what the rewards might be. Wouldn't be surprised to see them brag about new top rewards of 2500 7* shards and 20% of a T4A. They're good at making rewards better, but need to get better and making rewards good.

Don't get ahead, its not even a permanent update. They made it clear it was just a test. I can be cynical and skeptical to say the first test might be decent in rewards as an intro and then be balanced out or viceversa.

We are likely going to get one good reward Valiant EQ on may, then they go for their usual "research" And return the same reward and format, everything unchanged, 6 month later when the rewards become pretty mid.

I foresee a lot of complaints because for example this month's TB EQ isn't necessarily easy imo. Yes I didn't need revives or anything, but some of the fights were annoying, and I had to read the nodes.
Now crank it up another two levels to Valiant, and it's not going to be a walk in the park, a lot of Valiants will require revives, and yet there is no way the rewards will be commensurate with like EoP or 9.2.
I think when people say they want Valiant EQ, they want big rewards, not necessarily hard content. But that's what they will get in my speculation.

OGAvenger

They have a lot to work on but overall I’m happy. But I’m just a casual player to begin with. Leader of a retired alliance and I only get on and play when I can so I can see how more involved players can have a much different opinion…

Bugs are always going to be an ongoing issue. They are in any game and honestly they aren’t even as bad as they were 2-3 years ago.

They do need some reward overhauls across multiple game modes but they also have A LOT more game modes than they did in the past so I’m sure balancing making something worthwhile but keeping the economy stable isn’t easy

Communication has been terrible lately

Don’t care about what they’re selling or how many things they’re selling. Buy it or don’t….

Like I said overall I’m happy. There’s a lot to do in the game and it doesn’t seem like it’s slowing down any time soon

startropics

lol, maybe i'm only the degenerate in here but what's it matter if the rewards are temporarily stale? y'all aren't in this for the long haul?

if you play enough you'll get most of what you want in 12 months anyway, so who cares if something isn't as rewarding right now. everyone's getting the same bad rewards anyway right, so you're not falling behind and if we're being honest game rewards don't really even matter cause they're always overshadowed by the big sales anyway.

even if BGs rewards were buffed, you could spend the next year busting your ass and placing in celestial every season but some bozo who hasn't played for a year can just show up and buy all those rewards and more in one sale.