Very stale. Only things getting released are boring monthly events, stupidly difficult/tedious endgame content and a sprinkling of actually fun act content
Can kabam ban from the forums that annoying guy spamming useless posts?
Unfortunately it's the weekend so we're kinda screwed til Monday, they rarely do anything on weekends. I believe I saw Miike close down a thread and a ban a person on a weekend once last year but he doesn't work at Kabam anymore and again they very rarely do anything on weekends so for now all we can do is just let this get drowned out and push it back up on Monday once that donkey gets IP banned (hopefully).
Can kabam ban from the forums that annoying guy spamming useless posts?
Unfortunately it's the weekend so we're kinda screwed til Monday, they rarely do anything on weekends. I believe I saw Miike close down a thread and a ban a person on a weekend once last year but he doesn't work at Kabam anymore and again they very rarely do anything on weekends so for now all we can do is just let this get drowned out and push it back up on Monday once that donkey gets IP banned (hopefully).
Guardian can remove and make it not as clunky as long we don’t make to many’s comments
Hey all, really great thread here with a lot of great feedback. Do keep it coming.
On the community side there are always improvements to be made in communication and we'll be making adjustments as we move along. There are certain issues we deal with on our end that we can't give definitive answers on right away, but for sure can change our language a bit and update you more often even if we have nothing to additional to update with.
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented. We're a different team with different tactics and strategies but we'll do our best to oblige.
Appreciate you dropping in. Honestly it’d be nice to not feel largely ignored. To have at least an acknowledgement of bugs in a more visible way. It’s really sad something like medium intercepts being broken has lasted since November with minimal acknowledgement and communication. A gameplay bug that consequential feeling like it’s been brushed under the rug is a really bad look. Same with super speed defenders that can move in between frames
As an aside, has the Trello board been any help at all in seeing acknowledged bugs and issues? We've created a newer one and sunsetted the old one from last year.
I'll open by saying that I personally find the Trello board useless.
Now to add some color as to why...
1) There's clearly a discrepancy between bugs reported here on the forums, and what makes it to Trello. I just took a look, and I don't see anything up there regarding the number of incinerates being applied on Galan's sp2. I'm fairly certain that bug still exists.
2) There's no way of knowing what's being done with a bug. 2a) When it's "Under Investigation" what does that mean? There's no way for us to tell if it's assigned to someone, and what that person has done in an effort to fix the bug. 2b) When it's under "Unable to Reproduce" it's pretty clear what that means, but again, there's no clarity. What was done in an effort to reproduce it? Perhaps if that information was there, the community could chime in and provide greater detail for devs to reproduce it.
3) How are bugs prioritized? When there's 30 bugs for "Champs", we can't tell what's a higher priority.
The company I work for uses JIRA for bug/issue tracking. It addresses all of the issues I described above. I'm not suggesting you guys need to use that, but those are critical to proper bug tracking. Simply listing a bug on the Trello board doesn't provide any transparency to what's actually being done about them.
More long standing bugs like the ones you see currently on the board that require a longer amount of time for a fix, like multiple build releases for example, will live there so people can track the progress on what is happening.
Thank you for the insight and egangement here. I think this is an acceptable approach but would recommend slight modifications to the trello board in that case. If a bug is “under investigation” or “fix in progress” for multiple it almost becomes more frustrating because we as the community do not see the progress that is happening within those major buckets of activities. If there was a way to provide a middle ground of info, somewhere between “under investigation” and full details of who is working on it, how many lines of code they scanned / wrote last week, I would think that would be well received.
To your other question about what the previous community team that we liked, I think it all boils down to the community feeling heard. Jax would respond to threads within hours saying he will raise it and post updates very regularly. Lately it feels as though we have to be yelling from roooftops just to get acknowledgment of issues in the game. A couple of examples from just this week: 1. Level 62 rewards were supposed to be fix in this release, they weren’t. Update went live on Monday and people immediately pointed it out, took until Wed to get any sort of response. 2. AW issue, there were multiple forum posts as soon as war went live stating the issue and it took multiple hours until you jumped in and said the team is aware and looking into it. 3. IWD selector issue was identified on Thursday and it took about 27 hours for a response saying the team is looking into it.
I’m not expecting issues to be resolved in a couple of hours but taking 27 hours just to say “we’re aware” is not the best look. There are two strategies and approaches that I believe we as a community would like: A. Respond quicker saying, “noted we will raise to the appropriate team” or B. Take time in responding but respond with more details than “team is aware”
I came back after a 4-5 month break literally last week and while I am going to stay I don't think I will spend any actual money like I had planned to do so from the beginning when I first came back. When I returned I thought BGs rewards are probably better now, AI probably isn't as much of a pain in the ass now and even EQ and SQ have probably been buffed in terms of rewards. Come to find out not only are BGs rewards just as bad as they were when I left participation is dropping as well since I don't see Celestial players with the same amount of trophies they usually had 4-5 months ago I believe I even saw some Celestial players with barely 250 trophies. AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless. Lastly, EQ and SQ rewards are so unbelievably outdated doing both still feels like a chore which is another reason I left in the first place however if you look at money deals, the resources you get out of them are absolutely worth it I understand this whole thing is a business at the end of the day and I have no issues with people who whale out or the events that require you to whale out to get the best rewards but almost everything in the game is currently outdated and it annoys me how they refuse to acknowledge this.
I'm not leaving but I will remain a casual player until they get their s**t together, I really miss Miike and Jax almost everything in the game feels wrong since they left.
This
You haven’t even gotten past cav, go finish the story content y’all got plenty of stuff to do 😭
Forgot to add... As I said , progression shaming but, also, this is like you're saying "Nobody asked you" , as if we aren't free to answer every thread. Keep with your good comments I see on all threads, not like this one And lets keep voting for Sue Storm
Hey all, really great thread here with a lot of great feedback. Do keep it coming.
On the community side there are always improvements to be made in communication and we'll be making adjustments as we move along. There are certain issues we deal with on our end that we can't give definitive answers on right away, but for sure can change our language a bit and update you more often even if we have nothing to additional to update with.
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented. We're a different team with different tactics and strategies but we'll do our best to oblige.
Thanks for your answer
Everything is fine, Dave...
Mcoc is great. Of course here ,there are Valiants crying over rewards.
But ,they dont understand that they already have all the things to R3 or even R4 their 7 stars.
And this is really enough for them to complete Quests, even Everest.
So ,why better rewards???
And Battlegrounds are the best mode now.
Keep it up the good work
Thanks Kabam
This could not be more wrong, and maybe this is your opinion, but you haven't even completed act 6, so your opinion from the perspective of a valiant player does not remotely matter. The game is riddled with bugs, we don't want our rank ups so we can complete everest content, most of us want them for Battlegrounds and I just want them for roster building. Battlegrounds rewards have not been updated in over a year, and a lot of rewards are so outdated I don't feel like doing anything. Overall, the game is not fine in the slightest and there needs to be some serious thinking if Kabam wants their game to last more than a year longer.
This is progression shaming against me...lol what? As the popcorn troll does this, also the "Nobody asked you" You already know, I dont care. Having great times as TB with all great rewards...
Hey all, really great thread here with a lot of great feedback. Do keep it coming.
On the community side there are always improvements to be made in communication and we'll be making adjustments as we move along. There are certain issues we deal with on our end that we can't give definitive answers on right away, but for sure can change our language a bit and update you more often even if we have nothing to additional to update with.
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented. We're a different team with different tactics and strategies but we'll do our best to oblige.
Thanks for your answer
Everything is fine, Dave...
Mcoc is great. Of course here ,there are Valiants crying over rewards.
But ,they dont understand that they already have all the things to R3 or even R4 their 7 stars.
And this is really enough for them to complete Quests, even Everest.
I came back after a 4-5 month break literally last week and while I am going to stay I don't think I will spend any actual money like I had planned to do so from the beginning when I first came back. When I returned I thought BGs rewards are probably better now, AI probably isn't as much of a pain in the ass now and even EQ and SQ have probably been buffed in terms of rewards. Come to find out not only are BGs rewards just as bad as they were when I left participation is dropping as well since I don't see Celestial players with the same amount of trophies they usually had 4-5 months ago I believe I even saw some Celestial players with barely 250 trophies. AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless. Lastly, EQ and SQ rewards are so unbelievably outdated doing both still feels like a chore which is another reason I left in the first place however if you look at money deals, the resources you get out of them are absolutely worth it I understand this whole thing is a business at the end of the day and I have no issues with people who whale out or the events that require you to whale out to get the best rewards but almost everything in the game is currently outdated and it annoys me how they refuse to acknowledge this.
I'm not leaving but I will remain a casual player until they get their s**t together, I really miss Miike and Jax almost everything in the game feels wrong since they left.
This
You haven’t even gotten past cav, go finish the story content y’all got plenty of stuff to do 😭
Dont derail the thread with progression shaming.... As the Thing Pfp is doing too.
Keep playing and lets continue to vote for Invisible Woman 😍
Quiet while the grown folks are talking.
Who are you on Earth to think I will do what you ask?
Seems that you're a newbie here and just copy and paste what old users says.
Hey all, really great thread here with a lot of great feedback. Do keep it coming.
On the community side there are always improvements to be made in communication and we'll be making adjustments as we move along. There are certain issues we deal with on our end that we can't give definitive answers on right away, but for sure can change our language a bit and update you more often even if we have nothing to additional to update with.
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented. We're a different team with different tactics and strategies but we'll do our best to oblige.
Thanks for your answer
Everything is fine, Dave...
Mcoc is great. Of course here ,there are Valiants crying over rewards.
But ,they dont understand that they already have all the things to R3 or even R4 their 7 stars.
And this is really enough for them to complete Quests, even Everest.
I came back after a 4-5 month break literally last week and while I am going to stay I don't think I will spend any actual money like I had planned to do so from the beginning when I first came back. When I returned I thought BGs rewards are probably better now, AI probably isn't as much of a pain in the ass now and even EQ and SQ have probably been buffed in terms of rewards. Come to find out not only are BGs rewards just as bad as they were when I left participation is dropping as well since I don't see Celestial players with the same amount of trophies they usually had 4-5 months ago I believe I even saw some Celestial players with barely 250 trophies. AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless. Lastly, EQ and SQ rewards are so unbelievably outdated doing both still feels like a chore which is another reason I left in the first place however if you look at money deals, the resources you get out of them are absolutely worth it I understand this whole thing is a business at the end of the day and I have no issues with people who whale out or the events that require you to whale out to get the best rewards but almost everything in the game is currently outdated and it annoys me how they refuse to acknowledge this.
I'm not leaving but I will remain a casual player until they get their s**t together, I really miss Miike and Jax almost everything in the game feels wrong since they left.
This
You haven’t even gotten past cav, go finish the story content y’all got plenty of stuff to do 😭
Dont derail the thread with progression shaming.... As the Thing Pfp is doing too.
Keep playing and lets continue to vote for Invisible Woman 😍
"Don't derail the thread" *proceeds to talk about invisible woman*
Dont you understand that I told her not to act like that in a respectfull way? And knowing she vote for IW, why not?
And if you all want to pursue one individual on forums ,come against me, i dont care as Im not a kid.
Just dont do this to someone else that did nothing to you.
I personally don't mind them selling stuff, problem is when all they want to do is sell stuff. Specially if its stuff you know nothing about yet.
This, this is all they want, one of the most greedy companies I have ever encountered, and they aren't apologetic about it now, they are on full transparency mode.
One suggestion I'll say is, you guys can plan and conduct more interactive and fun livesteams like mikke/jax era. Remember the xmas Livestreams jax conducted where there were multiple games/quizzes and interactive sessions with kabam employees? You and Karathe miike could recreate that. Nowadays the livestream feels pretty boring it actually feels like you're just reading out what's coming in new month with some jokes in between.
Also more forum presence is definitely needed from your side. I also want to appreciate @KabamPinwheel here for two things. He always replies promptly to anythreada he can. And he also makes the environment positive if someone derails the thread, and even starts to attack him or kabam.
It was all respectful and serious until the old demented monkey business started... Can someone do something about this disrespectful attention seeking dumbass?
The best we can do is ignore, although I agree hoe tough it will be.
I sometimes look at the accounts in my neighborhood and I saw a 6.8 million paragon and a 6.8 million thronebreaker
Those 2 accounts have at least 2 7* rank 3 champions so the champion requirement was already met, so it means story quest requirement wasn't met, it's not my position to ask those 2 players why you aren't doing the story quest
Had a lot of questions in my mind when I saw those 2 accounts like how do you play until you reach 6.8 million rating for your account and still avoid story quest like a plague
About progression shaming, I sometimes question the need for progressions when valiant don't mean a thing currently in the game and I don't think anyone can shame those 2 accounts with 6.8 million ratings
I guess we have all kinds of players in this game and everyone play this game differently
I sometimes look at the accounts in my neighborhood and I saw a 6.8 million paragon and a 6.8 million thronebreaker
Those 2 accounts have at least 2 7* rank 3 champions so the champion requirement was already met, so it means story quest requirement wasn't met, it's not my position to ask those 2 players why you aren't doing the story quest
Had a lot of questions in my mind when I saw those 2 accounts like how do you play until you reach 6.8 million rating for your account and still avoid story quest like a plague
About progression shaming, I sometimes question the need for progressions when valiant don't mean a thing currently in the game and I don't think anyone can shame those 2 accounts with 6.8 million ratings
I guess we have all kinds of players in this game and everyone play this game differently
Rating is irrelevant. 7+ mill here. I rather level up 1-6* champs than sell ISO or Catalyst... Yay I got a bunch of maxed champs I will never use. Its not about shaming. Its about knowing someone's place and maybe shutting up or being quiet when a person can't relate. Problems with the game? Sure talk about bugs, glitches, things like that affect everyone. Now a TB being critic about Valiant problems? Lol
Like how Elon Musk was being publicly ridiculed for being a bad player in a particular game and a proven record of spending tonnes of money in that game due to the exclusive equipments he got
He is so busy he ain't got time to play games but he did spend tonnes of money in that game so to the game developers, which is more important, the money of course
There exist whales who spend lots of money in a game and yet they may not spend that much time playing the game bcos their time is far more valuable to them than their money (they are probably making millions a day but they only got 24 hours a day like you and me)
These are the players who continue to fund a game yet they don't care about the actual situation of the game which is what you all are discussing right now
All the complaints about banquet crystals and yet tonnes of banquet crystals were bought by whales bcos they don't care how expensive and how bad the banquet crystals were, they just got tonnes of money to spend and they want to spend it on Marvel related games
I sometimes look at the accounts in my neighborhood and I saw a 6.8 million paragon and a 6.8 million thronebreaker
Those 2 accounts have at least 2 7* rank 3 champions so the champion requirement was already met, so it means story quest requirement wasn't met, it's not my position to ask those 2 players why you aren't doing the story quest
Had a lot of questions in my mind when I saw those 2 accounts like how do you play until you reach 6.8 million rating for your account and still avoid story quest like a plague
About progression shaming, I sometimes question the need for progressions when valiant don't mean a thing currently in the game and I don't think anyone can shame those 2 accounts with 6.8 million ratings
I guess we have all kinds of players in this game and everyone play this game differently
Rating is irrelevant. 7+ mill here. I rather level up 1-6* champs than sell ISO or Catalyst... Yay I got a bunch of maxed champs I will never use. Its not about shaming. Its about knowing someone's place and maybe shutting up or being quiet when a person can't relate. Problems with the game? Sure talk about bugs, glitches, things like that affect everyone. Now a TB being critic about Valiant problems? Lol
We only see things from our own perspective
I realised that a lot of complaints come from valiants bcos valiants have progressed far ahead of the game, the game developers are playing catching up to this group of end game players
For paragons and below they don't see the same problem bcos they haven't progressed that far ahead
Valiants are a minority of the entire playerbase if you consider every player who login at least once a month
Valiants will never agree that the game is ok right now even though to the majority of the playerbase, this game is alright simply bcos they haven't progressed to where the valiants have reached in the game
A lot of games have the same end game problem when end game players have progressed far ahead of the game and the game developers are seriously lagging behind, this is not exclusive to Kabam alone
I sometimes look at the accounts in my neighborhood and I saw a 6.8 million paragon and a 6.8 million thronebreaker
Those 2 accounts have at least 2 7* rank 3 champions so the champion requirement was already met, so it means story quest requirement wasn't met, it's not my position to ask those 2 players why you aren't doing the story quest
Had a lot of questions in my mind when I saw those 2 accounts like how do you play until you reach 6.8 million rating for your account and still avoid story quest like a plague
About progression shaming, I sometimes question the need for progressions when valiant don't mean a thing currently in the game and I don't think anyone can shame those 2 accounts with 6.8 million ratings
I guess we have all kinds of players in this game and everyone play this game differently
Rating is irrelevant. 7+ mill here. I rather level up 1-6* champs than sell ISO or Catalyst... Yay I got a bunch of maxed champs I will never use. Its not about shaming. Its about knowing someone's place and maybe shutting up or being quiet when a person can't relate. Problems with the game? Sure talk about bugs, glitches, things like that affect everyone. Now a TB being critic about Valiant problems? Lol
We only see things from our own perspective
I realised that a lot of complaints come from valiants bcos valiants have progressed far ahead of the game, the game developers are playing catching up to this group of end game players
For paragons and below they don't see the same problem bcos they haven't progressed that far ahead
Valiants are a minority of the entire playerbase if you consider every player who login at least once a month
Valiants will never agree that the game is ok right now even though to the majority of the playerbase, this game is alright simply bcos they haven't progressed to where the valiants have reached in the game
A lot of games have the same end game problem when end game players have progressed far ahead of the game and the game developers are seriously lagging behind, this is not exclusive to Kabam alone
Kabam's own fault on that issue. Cause remember its not Valiants getting TB rewards, its TBs getting Valiant rewards. Too many issues in the game as of now, being talked about on this post. No need for a TB to say Valiants are crying and derail this post that was going well. You and I are derailing it too with this interaction.
I sometimes look at the accounts in my neighborhood and I saw a 6.8 million paragon and a 6.8 million thronebreaker
Those 2 accounts have at least 2 7* rank 3 champions so the champion requirement was already met, so it means story quest requirement wasn't met, it's not my position to ask those 2 players why you aren't doing the story quest
Had a lot of questions in my mind when I saw those 2 accounts like how do you play until you reach 6.8 million rating for your account and still avoid story quest like a plague
About progression shaming, I sometimes question the need for progressions when valiant don't mean a thing currently in the game and I don't think anyone can shame those 2 accounts with 6.8 million ratings
I guess we have all kinds of players in this game and everyone play this game differently
Rating is irrelevant. 7+ mill here. I rather level up 1-6* champs than sell ISO or Catalyst... Yay I got a bunch of maxed champs I will never use. Its not about shaming. Its about knowing someone's place and maybe shutting up or being quiet when a person can't relate. Problems with the game? Sure talk about bugs, glitches, things like that affect everyone. Now a TB being critic about Valiant problems? Lol
We only see things from our own perspective
I realised that a lot of complaints come from valiants bcos valiants have progressed far ahead of the game, the game developers are playing catching up to this group of end game players
For paragons and below they don't see the same problem bcos they haven't progressed that far ahead
Valiants are a minority of the entire playerbase if you consider every player who login at least once a month
Valiants will never agree that the game is ok right now even though to the majority of the playerbase, this game is alright simply bcos they haven't progressed to where the valiants have reached in the game
A lot of games have the same end game problem when end game players have progressed far ahead of the game and the game developers are seriously lagging behind, this is not exclusive to Kabam alone
Kabam's own fault on that issue. Cause remember its not Valiants getting TB rewards, its TBs getting Valiant rewards. Too many issues in the game as of now, being talked about on this post. No need for a TB to say Valiants are crying and derail this post that was going well. You and I are derailing it too with this interaction.
I'm guessing the reasons why the game is in the current situation lies outside of the game itself
Netmarble has been making a loss for 2 years and only recently made a small profit thanks to contributions from mcoc
I'm guessing Kabam is being tightfisted bcos they want to sell more stuff and make more money rather than increase the free rewards obtainable through playing the game
I came back after a 4-5 month break literally last week and while I am going to stay I don't think I will spend any actual money like I had planned to do so from the beginning when I first came back. When I returned I thought BGs rewards are probably better now, AI probably isn't as much of a pain in the ass now and even EQ and SQ have probably been buffed in terms of rewards. Come to find out not only are BGs rewards just as bad as they were when I left participation is dropping as well since I don't see Celestial players with the same amount of trophies they usually had 4-5 months ago I believe I even saw some Celestial players with barely 250 trophies. AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless. Lastly, EQ and SQ rewards are so unbelievably outdated doing both still feels like a chore which is another reason I left in the first place however if you look at money deals, the resources you get out of them are absolutely worth it I understand this whole thing is a business at the end of the day and I have no issues with people who whale out or the events that require you to whale out to get the best rewards but almost everything in the game is currently outdated and it annoys me how they refuse to acknowledge this.
I'm not leaving but I will remain a casual player until they get their s**t together, I really miss Miike and Jax almost everything in the game feels wrong since they left.
This
You haven’t even gotten past cav, go finish the story content y’all got plenty of stuff to do 😭
Forgot to add... As I said , progression shaming but, also, this is like you're saying "Nobody asked you" , as if we aren't free to answer every thread. Keep with your good comments I see on all threads, not like this one And lets keep voting for Sue Storm
Hey all, really great thread here with a lot of great feedback. Do keep it coming.
On the community side there are always improvements to be made in communication and we'll be making adjustments as we move along. There are certain issues we deal with on our end that we can't give definitive answers on right away, but for sure can change our language a bit and update you more often even if we have nothing to additional to update with.
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented. We're a different team with different tactics and strategies but we'll do our best to oblige.
Thanks for your answer
Everything is fine, Dave...
Mcoc is great. Of course here ,there are Valiants crying over rewards.
But ,they dont understand that they already have all the things to R3 or even R4 their 7 stars.
And this is really enough for them to complete Quests, even Everest.
So ,why better rewards???
And Battlegrounds are the best mode now.
Keep it up the good work
Thanks Kabam
This could not be more wrong, and maybe this is your opinion, but you haven't even completed act 6, so your opinion from the perspective of a valiant player does not remotely matter. The game is riddled with bugs, we don't want our rank ups so we can complete everest content, most of us want them for Battlegrounds and I just want them for roster building. Battlegrounds rewards have not been updated in over a year, and a lot of rewards are so outdated I don't feel like doing anything. Overall, the game is not fine in the slightest and there needs to be some serious thinking if Kabam wants their game to last more than a year longer.
This is progression shaming against me...lol what? As the popcorn troll does this, also the "Nobody asked you" You already know, I dont care. Having great times as TB with all great rewards...
Hey all, really great thread here with a lot of great feedback. Do keep it coming.
On the community side there are always improvements to be made in communication and we'll be making adjustments as we move along. There are certain issues we deal with on our end that we can't give definitive answers on right away, but for sure can change our language a bit and update you more often even if we have nothing to additional to update with.
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented. We're a different team with different tactics and strategies but we'll do our best to oblige.
Thanks for your answer
Everything is fine, Dave...
Mcoc is great. Of course here ,there are Valiants crying over rewards.
But ,they dont understand that they already have all the things to R3 or even R4 their 7 stars.
And this is really enough for them to complete Quests, even Everest.
I came back after a 4-5 month break literally last week and while I am going to stay I don't think I will spend any actual money like I had planned to do so from the beginning when I first came back. When I returned I thought BGs rewards are probably better now, AI probably isn't as much of a pain in the ass now and even EQ and SQ have probably been buffed in terms of rewards. Come to find out not only are BGs rewards just as bad as they were when I left participation is dropping as well since I don't see Celestial players with the same amount of trophies they usually had 4-5 months ago I believe I even saw some Celestial players with barely 250 trophies. AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless. Lastly, EQ and SQ rewards are so unbelievably outdated doing both still feels like a chore which is another reason I left in the first place however if you look at money deals, the resources you get out of them are absolutely worth it I understand this whole thing is a business at the end of the day and I have no issues with people who whale out or the events that require you to whale out to get the best rewards but almost everything in the game is currently outdated and it annoys me how they refuse to acknowledge this.
I'm not leaving but I will remain a casual player until they get their s**t together, I really miss Miike and Jax almost everything in the game feels wrong since they left.
This
You haven’t even gotten past cav, go finish the story content y’all got plenty of stuff to do 😭
Dont derail the thread with progression shaming.... As the Thing Pfp is doing too.
Keep playing and lets continue to vote for Invisible Woman 😍
Quiet while the grown folks are talking.
Who are you on Earth to think I will do what you ask?
Seems that you're a newbie here and just copy and paste what old users says.
Hey all, really great thread here with a lot of great feedback. Do keep it coming.
On the community side there are always improvements to be made in communication and we'll be making adjustments as we move along. There are certain issues we deal with on our end that we can't give definitive answers on right away, but for sure can change our language a bit and update you more often even if we have nothing to additional to update with.
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented. We're a different team with different tactics and strategies but we'll do our best to oblige.
Thanks for your answer
Everything is fine, Dave...
Mcoc is great. Of course here ,there are Valiants crying over rewards.
But ,they dont understand that they already have all the things to R3 or even R4 their 7 stars.
And this is really enough for them to complete Quests, even Everest.
I came back after a 4-5 month break literally last week and while I am going to stay I don't think I will spend any actual money like I had planned to do so from the beginning when I first came back. When I returned I thought BGs rewards are probably better now, AI probably isn't as much of a pain in the ass now and even EQ and SQ have probably been buffed in terms of rewards. Come to find out not only are BGs rewards just as bad as they were when I left participation is dropping as well since I don't see Celestial players with the same amount of trophies they usually had 4-5 months ago I believe I even saw some Celestial players with barely 250 trophies. AI somehow has gotten worse now, it has the power of literally intercepting you when you actually got the intercept (I've been playing since 2015 I know the timing) and I've been testing this with Kushala and her spell and sometimes I will get the intercept spell but take a combo to the face regardless. Lastly, EQ and SQ rewards are so unbelievably outdated doing both still feels like a chore which is another reason I left in the first place however if you look at money deals, the resources you get out of them are absolutely worth it I understand this whole thing is a business at the end of the day and I have no issues with people who whale out or the events that require you to whale out to get the best rewards but almost everything in the game is currently outdated and it annoys me how they refuse to acknowledge this.
I'm not leaving but I will remain a casual player until they get their s**t together, I really miss Miike and Jax almost everything in the game feels wrong since they left.
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You haven’t even gotten past cav, go finish the story content y’all got plenty of stuff to do 😭
Dont derail the thread with progression shaming.... As the Thing Pfp is doing too.
Keep playing and lets continue to vote for Invisible Woman 😍
"Don't derail the thread" *proceeds to talk about invisible woman*
Dont you understand that I told her not to act like that in a respectfull way? And knowing she vote for IW, why not?
And if you all want to pursue one individual on forums ,come against me, i dont care as Im not a kid.
Just dont do this to someone else that did nothing to you.
as the game grows in the number of modes, we run into the inherent problem of watered down rewards.
kabam once said they want us to pick out what modes we do instead of doing it all but that comes with the problem of enthusiasts from each mode asking for buffs.
if you and 29 mates are grinding your d**** off in battlegrounds all month, you expect some reasonable return on investment. same for war and AQ/raids.
but if we expect every mode to be buffed to the max, we run out of 7* materials and get pushed faster into what's next. they could release 2 more amazing modes on top of what we already have and eventually they won't be worth doing either and some modes will suffer over others.
kabam needs to address the staleness of BGs and EQ but there's also only so much they can do.
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented....
It just felt that they were just a lot more present than the current team, you included. Jax and Miike interacted, gave hints and congratulations and were basically the 'voice' of Kabam to the community.
The comments a couple of days ago about reaching your quota (here) were kind of a hint that even when here, you're a relatively silent presence.
It's not unusual for you to go 3-4 weeks without a single comment; even when you're on the forums.
Not just you: it's now the norm for days and days to pass on the forum without any comment from any moderators.
I know you've got other responsibilities, and there's more to being a community manager than interacting on a forum.
But as a member of the community, I just don't feel particularly managed...
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented....
It just felt that they were just a lot more present than the current team, you included. Jax and Miike interacted, gave hints and congratulations and were basically the 'voice' of Kabam to the community.
The comments a couple of days ago about reaching your quota (here) were kind of a hint that even when here, you're a relatively silent presence.
It's not unusual for you to go 3-4 weeks without a single comment; even when you're on the forums.
Not just you: it's now the norm for days and days to pass on the forum without any comment from any moderators.
I know you've got other responsibilities, and there's more to being a community manager than interacting on a forum.
But as a member of the community, I just don't feel particularly managed...
Sometimes there isn't anything to add. I'm not saying there isn't more room for communication. It's a process of always improving. Still, one of the things that Miike constantly said was that the Forum is for us to communicate first and foremost, and that there are times where they're taking things in, but there's nothing to add at the moment. They can't reply to every Thread and concern.
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented....
It just felt that they were just a lot more present than the current team, you included. Jax and Miike interacted, gave hints and congratulations and were basically the 'voice' of Kabam to the community.
The comments a couple of days ago about reaching your quota (here) were kind of a hint that even when here, you're a relatively silent presence.
It's not unusual for you to go 3-4 weeks without a single comment; even when you're on the forums.
Not just you: it's now the norm for days and days to pass on the forum without any comment from any moderators.
I know you've got other responsibilities, and there's more to being a community manager than interacting on a forum.
But as a member of the community, I just don't feel particularly managed...
Sometimes there isn't anything to add. I'm not saying there isn't more room for communication. It's a process of always improving. Still, one of the things that Miike constantly said was that the Forum is for us to communicate first and foremost, and that there are times where they're taking things in, but there's nothing to add at the moment. They can't reply to every Thread and concern.
And yet there was way more communication back then with him than there is now with the current team, the point still stands what exactly are you trying to argue?
I know there's quite an affinity for the former community team, so if there were actions from them that you really liked and want to see emulated, please feel free to let us know and we'll try to get that implemented....
It just felt that they were just a lot more present than the current team, you included. Jax and Miike interacted, gave hints and congratulations and were basically the 'voice' of Kabam to the community.
The comments a couple of days ago about reaching your quota (here) were kind of a hint that even when here, you're a relatively silent presence.
It's not unusual for you to go 3-4 weeks without a single comment; even when you're on the forums.
Not just you: it's now the norm for days and days to pass on the forum without any comment from any moderators.
I know you've got other responsibilities, and there's more to being a community manager than interacting on a forum.
But as a member of the community, I just don't feel particularly managed...
Sometimes there isn't anything to add. I'm not saying there isn't more room for communication. It's a process of always improving. Still, one of the things that Miike constantly said was that the Forum is for us to communicate first and foremost, and that there are times where they're taking things in, but there's nothing to add at the moment. They can't reply to every Thread and concern.
No, absolutely they can't.
But this wasn't a random comment/post - he asked, old friend 🙂.
And (1) it's been something I've been feeling for a while, and (2) I know for a fact I'm not alone. So, I answered... 🤷♂️
as the game grows in the number of modes, we run into the inherent problem of watered down rewards.
kabam once said they want us to pick out what modes we do instead of doing it all but that comes with the problem of enthusiasts from each mode asking for buffs.
if you and 29 mates are grinding your d**** off in battlegrounds all month, you expect some reasonable return on investment. same for war and AQ/raids.
but if we expect every mode to be buffed to the max, we run out of 7* materials and get pushed faster into what's next. they could release 2 more amazing modes on top of what we already have and eventually they won't be worth doing either and some modes will suffer over others.
kabam needs to address the staleness of BGs and EQ but there's also only so much they can do.
When was the last time they addressed any of this at all tho? I left for 5 months and somehow came back to BGs and EQ/SQ in a worse state than they were when I left and when I left it had already been close to a year since they had last addressed anything BGs or EQ/SQ related so at this point one does start to wonder are they trying to kill the game or what?
Can’t remember the last time anything was said about BG, it truly feels like the abandoned game mode. EQ actually got mentioned, for the first time in probably in over a year, on this month’s livestream. They are releasing a beta of Valiant EQ in May but it won’t be permanent (at least to begin with)
I mean, it's alright like, I do eq, push bg, and that's kind of it. Before, when I count get the latest Everest or endgame done easily, it was weeks of farming for each path. Now it's knocking out all the paths in a week or two.and then resting
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To your other question about what the previous community team that we liked, I think it all boils down to the community feeling heard. Jax would respond to threads within hours saying he will raise it and post updates very regularly. Lately it feels as though we have to be yelling from roooftops just to get acknowledgment of issues in the game. A couple of examples from just this week: 1. Level 62 rewards were supposed to be fix in this release, they weren’t. Update went live on Monday and people immediately pointed it out, took until Wed to get any sort of response.
2. AW issue, there were multiple forum posts as soon as war went live stating the issue and it took multiple hours until you jumped in and said the team is aware and looking into it.
3. IWD selector issue was identified on Thursday and it took about 27 hours for a response saying the team is looking into it.
I’m not expecting issues to be resolved in a couple of hours but taking 27 hours just to say “we’re aware” is not the best look. There are two strategies and approaches that I believe we as a community would like:
A. Respond quicker saying, “noted we will raise to the appropriate team”
or B. Take time in responding but respond with more details than “team is aware”
As I said , progression shaming but, also,
this is like you're saying "Nobody asked you" , as if we aren't free to answer every thread.
Keep with your good comments I see on all threads, not like this one
And lets keep voting for Sue Storm This is progression shaming against me...lol what?
As the popcorn troll does this, also the "Nobody asked you"
You already know, I dont care.
Having great times as TB with all great rewards...
Who are you on Earth to think I will do what you ask?
Seems that you're a newbie here and just copy and paste what old users says. Dont you understand that I told her not to act like that in a respectfull way? And knowing she vote for IW, why not?
And if you all want to pursue one individual on forums ,come against me, i dont care as Im not a kid.
Just dont do this to someone else that did nothing to you.
And respect always.
One suggestion I'll say is, you guys can plan and conduct more interactive and fun livesteams like mikke/jax era. Remember the xmas Livestreams jax conducted where there were multiple games/quizzes and interactive sessions with kabam employees? You and Karathe miike could recreate that. Nowadays the livestream feels pretty boring it actually feels like you're just reading out what's coming in new month with some jokes in between.
Also more forum presence is definitely needed from your side. I also want to appreciate @KabamPinwheel here for two things.
He always replies promptly to anythreada he can.
And he also makes the environment positive if someone derails the thread, and even starts to attack him or kabam.
I sometimes look at the accounts in my neighborhood and I saw a 6.8 million paragon and a 6.8 million thronebreaker
Those 2 accounts have at least 2 7* rank 3 champions so the champion requirement was already met, so it means story quest requirement wasn't met, it's not my position to ask those 2 players why you aren't doing the story quest
Had a lot of questions in my mind when I saw those 2 accounts like how do you play until you reach 6.8 million rating for your account and still avoid story quest like a plague
About progression shaming, I sometimes question the need for progressions when valiant don't mean a thing currently in the game and I don't think anyone can shame those 2 accounts with 6.8 million ratings
I guess we have all kinds of players in this game and everyone play this game differently
Those 2 players probably spend money buying tonnes of crystals and have 1,300+ champions
Maybe they don't enjoy playing difficult content like story quest but they like to collect champions or they just like Marvel stuff
Yay I got a bunch of maxed champs I will never use.
Its not about shaming. Its about knowing someone's place and maybe shutting up or being quiet when a person can't relate.
Problems with the game? Sure talk about bugs, glitches, things like that affect everyone. Now a TB being critic about Valiant problems? Lol
He is so busy he ain't got time to play games but he did spend tonnes of money in that game so to the game developers, which is more important, the money of course
There exist whales who spend lots of money in a game and yet they may not spend that much time playing the game bcos their time is far more valuable to them than their money (they are probably making millions a day but they only got 24 hours a day like you and me)
These are the players who continue to fund a game yet they don't care about the actual situation of the game which is what you all are discussing right now
All the complaints about banquet crystals and yet tonnes of banquet crystals were bought by whales bcos they don't care how expensive and how bad the banquet crystals were, they just got tonnes of money to spend and they want to spend it on Marvel related games
I realised that a lot of complaints come from valiants bcos valiants have progressed far ahead of the game, the game developers are playing catching up to this group of end game players
For paragons and below they don't see the same problem bcos they haven't progressed that far ahead
Valiants are a minority of the entire playerbase if you consider every player who login at least once a month
Valiants will never agree that the game is ok right now even though to the majority of the playerbase, this game is alright simply bcos they haven't progressed to where the valiants have reached in the game
A lot of games have the same end game problem when end game players have progressed far ahead of the game and the game developers are seriously lagging behind, this is not exclusive to Kabam alone
Too many issues in the game as of now, being talked about on this post. No need for a TB to say Valiants are crying and derail this post that was going well. You and I are derailing it too with this interaction.
Netmarble has been making a loss for 2 years and only recently made a small profit thanks to contributions from mcoc
I'm guessing Kabam is being tightfisted bcos they want to sell more stuff and make more money rather than increase the free rewards obtainable through playing the game
It's always about the money, sell more stuff yes, update the rewards no
No amount of feedback will change the game
Netmarble share price has fallen 28% in the last 6 months
Kabam's CEO is a Korean who is answerable to Netmarble and Netmarble only
Player's feedback will only go this far
kabam once said they want us to pick out what modes we do instead of doing it all but that comes with the problem of enthusiasts from each mode asking for buffs.
if you and 29 mates are grinding your d**** off in battlegrounds all month, you expect some reasonable return on investment. same for war and AQ/raids.
but if we expect every mode to be buffed to the max, we run out of 7* materials and get pushed faster into what's next. they could release 2 more amazing modes on top of what we already have and eventually they won't be worth doing either and some modes will suffer over others.
kabam needs to address the staleness of BGs and EQ but there's also only so much they can do.
The comments a couple of days ago about reaching your quota (here) were kind of a hint that even when here, you're a relatively silent presence.
It's not unusual for you to go 3-4 weeks without a single comment; even when you're on the forums.
Not just you: it's now the norm for days and days to pass on the forum without any comment from any moderators.
I know you've got other responsibilities, and there's more to being a community manager than interacting on a forum.
But as a member of the community, I just don't feel particularly managed...
But this wasn't a random comment/post - he asked, old friend 🙂.
And (1) it's been something I've been feeling for a while, and (2) I know for a fact I'm not alone. So, I answered... 🤷♂️