6-Star Release Discussion Thread

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  • HoldengHoldeng Posts: 11
    Any plans to release a 6* UC to the loyalty store?
  • GreenElf21GreenElf21 Posts: 36
    edited January 2018
    GreenElf21 wrote: »
    Updated with Picture!
    GreenElf21 wrote: »
    C'Mon Miike... Can you address what I pointed out earlier about Venom missing from this list?

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    As we said when that image was first added, it was not at all indicative of the Champions that would be available. We had no idea who was going to end up in the Crystal at that time.

    Thank you for the response. I would point out that 2/3 *are* in the list... Will feedback to the list have any impact? Can the roster change before this goes live?
  • Kabam MiikeKabam Miike Posts: 8,269
    edited January 2018
    Holdeng wrote: »
    Any plans to release a 6* UC to the loyalty store?

    It's a possibility, but we don't have any plans to do that right now. At this time, the only way to get a 6-Star will be from the 6-Star Hero Crystal.
  • BrandoniusBrandonius Posts: 292
    edited January 2018
    24 champs means such a tiny chance to dupe any of them anytime soon.

    I have 46 or so 5*s; around 14 not awakened. Only use maybe 8 of these for anything aside from arena. I keep selling 4*s to get 5* shards hoping to get duplicate 5*s but I keep pulling trash useless champs.

    This is pushing me further and further away from this game. So many other things I am missing. So I guess I should be thankful.
  • Psycho1980Psycho1980 Posts: 37
    Another way from Kabam to show us the middle finger.
    I cannot see one single chanpion worth opening
    Will have to wait and see what a featured champion poll will look like
  • Mcfly1981Mcfly1981 Posts: 5
    Sorry if I missed it but....
    Will 5* champs be cheaper and also T4bc and T4cc be more obtainable? I can hardly dupe a 5* let alone rank one....
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 19,250 Guardian
    @Kabam Miike I realise that my hostile tone may discourage you from responding to my comments so in an effort to get some feedback to my larger concerns can I have one question answered please.

    Does kabam consider customer satisfaction a core value of its business model?

    Absolutely. We're always working to make sure that Summoners are having a great time in The Contest. Sometimes, we'll announce things that not everybody is going to be over the moon excited about, but we also have to think about the balance of The Contest, and the future.


    There’s much better ways to balance the contest and future of the game outside of adding 6*’s. Try 90% of the community not liking this. Does that matter? So next year, we should expect 7*’s to ensure the future of the game??? Kabam logic is terrible. You guys need to understand that people have been playing this game for 2+ years and have spent a ton of time and money to get their rosters where they want. Now in order to keep being competitive (AQ, AW, etc), we need to start all over again with 6*’s. Tough justifying why any of your top tier players shouldn’t quit.

    If all the top tier players quit, Klingon promotion would make me a top player. So technically speaking 6* champions could theoretically benefit me a great deal.
  • Alpha07Alpha07 Posts: 649 ★★
    edited January 2018
    TKal wrote: »
    Alpha07 wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Moises_H wrote: »
    Really not sure why quite a few people are complaining about the list of champs. This is much better than the original 5* list. There are some really useful champs to be had here

    Much better than the original 5* that had SL and Magik ? Yeah sure

    Magik was trash when the 5* crystal was released.

    the pool consisted of: WS, BP, Rhino, Spiderman, Juggs, Magik, Captain Marvel, Ronan, Iron Man, Star Lord, Storm and Cyclops.

    at that moment, most of the good champs needed to be duped. WS, Rhino and Magik were TRASH when the crystal was released.

    The only champs useful in the 6* is Angela. KG might be good, but needs to be duped.
    None of the others, deserve all the cats needed to be r2, none. That’s trash.

    Dare tell me that you’ll spend 7 T2A and 3 T5B un any champs on the list

    WW2 Cap and Angela seem to be the only ones i would dare to invest T5B in, but that's debatable. are you going to tell me YJ, WS, Red Hulk, Luke Cage, Yondu, Nebula are totally useless? tell me a champ from the first 5* pool (not named CM or SL, oh and they needed the dupes to be great) that would you have spent resources on.

    i mean, 6* pool is not the best, but is far from be the worst imo.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 19,250 Guardian
    Brandonius wrote: »
    24 champs means such a tiny chance to dupe any of them anytime soon.

    The odds of duplicating at least one champion from a crystal that contains twenty four different champions is about 50/50 after six pulls.
  • With the addition of 6* champs I think it would be amazing if the login calendar was changed to guarantee a 4* with a rare chance at a 5*. Doubtful this change would happen but would be nice and would certainly help players with small rosters and empty pockets
  • BrandoniusBrandonius Posts: 292
    DNA3000 wrote: »
    Brandonius wrote: »
    24 champs means such a tiny chance to dupe any of them anytime soon.

    The odds of duplicating at least one champion from a crystal that contains twenty four different champions is about 50/50 after six pulls.


    Would it not be 50/50 after 12 pulls? And first get those 12. I am one duped 5* from having 20k 6* shards and sooooo not looking forward to opening them and feeling that massive disappointment.

    I just think 24 champs at once in the initial introduction is way too many.
  • TKalTKal Posts: 534 ★★
    Alpha07 wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Alpha07 wrote: »
    TKal wrote: »
    Moises_H wrote: »
    Really not sure why quite a few people are complaining about the list of champs. This is much better than the original 5* list. There are some really useful champs to be had here

    Much better than the original 5* that had SL and Magik ? Yeah sure

    Magik was trash when the 5* crystal was released.

    the pool consisted of: WS, BP, Rhino, Spiderman, Juggs, Magik, Captain Marvel, Ronan, Iron Man, Star Lord, Storm and Cyclops.

    at that moment, most of the good champs needed to be duped. WS, Rhino and Magik were TRASH when the crystal was released.

    The only champs useful in the 6* is Angela. KG might be good, but needs to be duped.
    None of the others, deserve all the cats needed to be r2, none. That’s trash.

    Dare tell me that you’ll spend 7 T2A and 3 T5B un any champs on the list

    WW2 Cap and Angela seem to be the only ones i would dare to invest T5B in, but that's debatable. are you going to tell me YJ, WS, Red Hulk, Luke Cage, Yondu, Nebula are totally useless? tell me a champ from the first 5* pool (not named CM or SL, oh and they needed the dupes to be great) that would you have spent resources on.

    i mean, 6* pool is not the best, but is far from be the worst imo.


    Yes they needed to be duped, but you only had 12 champs, so duping was easier.
    I’m not saying those are the worst champs, sorry if he had leading you into this

    This pool is bad, cause there is no reason to open your 6* shards for it now
  • Hulk_77Hulk_77 Posts: 782 ★★★
    @Kabam Miike please can you answer if there are going to be more ways to gain T5 basics?!

    There will be, but not anything we're ready to discuss quite yet!

    With update 17.0 or at a later date?
  • CorpsmanCorpsman Posts: 54
    @Kabam Miike I realise that my hostile tone may discourage you from responding to my comments so in an effort to get some feedback to my larger concerns can I have one question answered please.

    Does kabam consider customer satisfaction a core value of its business model?

    Absolutely. We're always working to make sure that Summoners are having a great time in The Contest. Sometimes, we'll announce things that not everybody is going to be over the moon excited about, but we also have to think about the balance of The Contest, and the future.

    Here is the problem with Kabam. More worried about balance then players being entertained/excited about the game. Keep taking excitement out and you’ll end up with a game without players.
  • BrandoniusBrandonius Posts: 292
    I am happy to see no god tier champs in this pool. Most of the champs listed are decent enough. Just think 12 would be a much better number. We have far far too many 5*s in the pool, guess starting 6*s in the same light is the objective.
  • Da2Vero33ManDa2Vero33Man Posts: 160
    What about the all type 6* crystal? Is that boat still to be 75k shards?
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 19,250 Guardian
    Brandonius wrote: »
    DNA3000 wrote: »
    Brandonius wrote: »
    24 champs means such a tiny chance to dupe any of them anytime soon.

    The odds of duplicating at least one champion from a crystal that contains twenty four different champions is about 50/50 after six pulls.


    Would it not be 50/50 after 12 pulls? And first get those 12. I am one duped 5* from having 20k 6* shards and sooooo not looking forward to opening them and feeling that massive disappointment.

    I just think 24 champs at once in the initial introduction is way too many.

    Intuition tends to get this one wrong. Let's go step by step and calculate the odds of never pulling a duplicate. The first pull is automatic: it can't be a dup. Out of 24 champions you can pull any one of the 24. The odds of not pulling a dup are 24 out of 24, or 24/24, or 1 which is 100%. But to avoid duping on the second pull, there's now only 23 possible champions you can pull. You have a 23/24 chance to avoid duping, which is about 95.8%. On the third pull you can only pull 22 out of 24, and then 21 out of 24. Without doing a lot of math, I think you can see that if you somehow managed to avoid duping after 12 pulls, the thirteenth pull has a 50/50 chance of not duping: half the possible pulls dup, the other half don't. But if the odds of duping on that one single pull are 50/50, the odds of not duping after all thirteen pulls has to be much lower than that, because you had to do twelve earlier pulls that didn't dup and then on top of that beat 50/50 odds.

    Mathematically speaking, the odds of not pulling after N pulls is 24/24 * 23/24 * 23/24 * 22/24 ... (24 - N + 1)/24. When N is six, that is 24/24 * 23/24 * 22/24 * 21/24 * 20/24 * 19/24 = 0.5071. So the odds of not pulling a dup after six pulls is 50.71% and therefore the odds of pulling at least one dup are 49.29%.
  • KnightarthusKnightarthus Posts: 419 ★★★
    Angela is by far the best on the list since she comes great unawakened. I will be spinning just because of her.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 19,250 Guardian
    Corpsman wrote: »
    @Kabam Miike I realise that my hostile tone may discourage you from responding to my comments so in an effort to get some feedback to my larger concerns can I have one question answered please.

    Does kabam consider customer satisfaction a core value of its business model?

    Absolutely. We're always working to make sure that Summoners are having a great time in The Contest. Sometimes, we'll announce things that not everybody is going to be over the moon excited about, but we also have to think about the balance of The Contest, and the future.

    Here is the problem with Kabam. More worried about balance then players being entertained/excited about the game. Keep taking excitement out and you’ll end up with a game without players.

    I've been hearing this since I first joined the forums. I no longer consider it a noteworthy statement unless there's a date attached to it.
  • Renegade_DoggyRenegade_Doggy Posts: 358 ★★
    So how will the featured crystals roll out for 6*

    When are you adding good champions?
  • MLBMikeMLBMike Posts: 21
    Hey Everybody!

    We're getting really close to the release of 6-Star Champions! They'll be making their way to The Contest on January 31st! Find out everything you need to know about them here!

    Can you also release prestige for each 6* champs at 1/25 and 2/35?
  • BosleyBosley Posts: 280 ★★★
    MLBMike wrote: »
    Hey Everybody!

    We're getting really close to the release of 6-Star Champions! They'll be making their way to The Contest on January 31st! Find out everything you need to know about them here!

    Can you also release prestige for each 6* champs at 1/25 and 2/35?

    They never have before. I wouldn't expect them to now.
  • LilJohLilJoh Posts: 52
    Everyone that has enough shards to get a 6 star character has worked really hard on difficult content to have the resources to get one. I feel like it would make sense to award these players with a definite chance to pull a decent champ. It wouldn’t take much other than removing champs that would be largely useless to pull without the ability to dupe in the foreseeable future
    Juggernaut
    Blackbolt
    King groot
    Kingpin
    It would be a real shame to pull any of these champs and anyone that is able to get a 6* champion by Jan 31st should be rewarded without the risk of being punished.
  • SpiritOfVengeanceSpiritOfVengeance Posts: 2,353 ★★★★
    edited January 2018
    Exactly what the above comment said @Kabam Miike We worked so hard for these 6 star shards yet we have to have this pool with champs we don't like. It is like a punishment we did act 5 for christs sake and we get this pool?

    At least throw in a couple more decent ones.
  • GreenElf21GreenElf21 Posts: 36
    LilJoh wrote: »
    Everyone that has enough shards to get a 6 star character has worked really hard on difficult content to have the resources to get one. I feel like it would make sense to award these players with a definite chance to pull a decent champ. It wouldn’t take much other than removing champs that would be largely useless to pull without the ability to dupe in the foreseeable future
    Juggernaut
    Blackbolt
    King groot
    Kingpin
    It would be a real shame to pull any of these champs and anyone that is able to get a 6* champion by Jan 31st should be rewarded without the risk of being punished.

    And Rocket! I think only Kamala Khan is more hated...
  • EpistriatusEpistriatus Posts: 1,249 ★★★★
    I really hope that the resources to rank up these 6* champs will be available through solo events/content.
  • MattyloMattylo Posts: 234
    Way too many in there that need to be duped and arent very good when they are. Very dissapointing.
  • KnightarthusKnightarthus Posts: 419 ★★★
    There are 8 trash champions in the initial list. So if you spin on the first day there is 1 in 3 chance to get trash.
  • rahul3038rahul3038 Posts: 107
    @Kabam Miike When can we expect 5star arenas in the contest???
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