Can't even leave the video because you guys have a file size limit. Such BS how can you claim to want to fix the game but make sure no one can post stuff that shows where the problems are?
Thank you for doing the last chapter the way you did it. Uncollected Thanos was a challenge. I put on a 30% Champion Boost 20% Attack Boost 25% Health Boost. I used a team of 5/50 sig 40 Gwenpool, 5/50 Sig 20 Thor, 5/50 sig 60 Stark Spidey, 5/50 sig 50 Blade, and 4/55 Ghost Rider. Took him down with two 40% team revives. I was glad to know that 3.2 was done in one run!
Can someone explain the last Thanos to me. I get him down to below 70% and then without warning hes back to 100% health. Nothing is listed on the tile info that gives any indication of what hes actually capable of. The first one at least it told me things like inverted controls or unstoppable ect.. this one did an auto block and then he was health. A lost of capabilities would be nice.
My strategy for Thanos was to do everything else and leave the Master Thanos and the Uncollected Thanos for absolute last, so I could do them back to back. I was going to then practice on Master Thanos and hope that would carry me over to uncollected Thanos.
I just finished step one of my plan: I've been practicing against Master Thanos for the past few days, using basically 5/50 or 3/45 and going at him until I could beat him without using potions or revives. I finally got him with a team of Scarlet Witch, Iceman, Gwenpool, Archangel, and Nebula, although I cheated at the end and revived SW to finish off the last bit of health on Thanos #2.
I'm now working on Uncollected, and the practice seems to have paid off. In my very first run I managed to get the first Thanos down to just a tiny stub left without using potions or revives. I've got 14 days left to take him down, and its already clear if I spend potions I will get him. But I'm going to keep practicing to see how far I can get without potions, although I may decide to push past stage 3 of each Thanos with some revives from the stash if it looks like I can't quite get the timing right consistently.
So my original impression of this boss being a good design because you can practice against him seems to have been true, at least for me. It isn't costing me anything except time to bring him down so far, and because the energy costs are much lower this month I have a lot of time to practice. But there was a huge benefit to practicing dodging specials and getting used to reversed controls on the easier Master mode Thanos.
One thing that is true for me and I believe is true for a lot people is that practice is not just about hours. I find that I can't just force my way to acquire a skill by just pounding on it enough. What seems to be working for me is practice as my energy refills, but taking breaks in between. And even more: sleeping on it and trying again the next day. I found my performance against Thanos would actually get worse towards the end of the day after so many tries against him, but it would then be a lot better the next day. The practice during the day tended to kick in more the next day. In particular, it seemed like I couldn't track and evade the nightmare projectiles consistently at all on day one and day two, and then suddenly on day three it seemed to me like evading them was dramatically easier.
Is Thanos a harder fight than, say, Ice Phoenix or Guillotine? Yes. But is the last map harder than the last map in the previous uncollected missions? That's a tricky question to answer. I may end the month finishing uncollected while spending practically nothing, and probably fewer revives than I spent on Guillotine total. In that respect, it might be harder *and* cheaper, and to me that's a great property for uncollected difficulty to have.
It's very possible to beat with little to no items. Do several practice rounds and watch Seatins guide for him. Worst part was first Thanos war stone IMO.
Whatever happens, it's likely to be less valuable than spending it in the store.
"Snaps fingers after event end" Blows away into the air lol. Seriously though, Kabam stated recently in another forum post that it will just disappear, no turning into gold or anything else after the event ends.
So after practicing for a while my conclusion was that doing uncollected with zero potions wasn't going to happen, but I got enough practice to believe I could do it with relatively few. The final team I used was AA 4/55, Iceman 4/55, Blade 4/55, Gwenpool 5/50, Scarlet Witch 5/50.
I started with AA and took two tries to get what I wanted: a good rhythm that got me past stage 1 and deep into stage 2. Just about when he went stun immune AA bit the dust, and I switched to Gwenpool. Gwenpool almost got me to the end but I made a mistake and she dropped. I tried with SW but got killed immediately, revived Gwenpool and got some good intercepts. Down goes Thanos #1 with one revive and no other potions.
I started Thanos #2 with Iceman due to bleed immunity. Although Iceman was slow, he could get in attacks without having to worry about bleed. I lost him to a bad Nightmare evade, then switched to Blade. Blade did well, I got good evades and made it to the final stage, got some decent hits in but lost him. Then it was just a case of using the strategy of attack immediately after the cut scene. My intercept skills mostly vanished: I got only a handful of intercepts in, and ended up reviving SW, then Gwenpool, then decided to stick with Gwenpool and revived her about four more times. I ended up using six revives and a bunch of health potions, all of which were going to expire in my stash anyway. Down goes Thanos #2.
Final tally: seven tier 2 revives, about thirty tier 1 and tier 2 potions that were just filling up stash anyway. Zero units spent.
Conclusion: Thanos is a much harder fight as designed than any previous uncollected boss, but the fact that you can practice on him also makes him a much easier boss to finally defeat if you actually practice on him and experiment with different teams. It took me less potions to fully complete uncollected Thanos than it did my first run of Guillotine last month, much less full explore.
Lessons learned:
1. Practice the fights on master before moving on to uncollected. in this case, master practice probably saved me literally hundreds of units of potions. Most important part of practice was learning to evade the standard special attack, and especially dodging nightmare comets.
2. Best strategy for dealing with reversed controls: parry Thanos after the cutscene, and then heavy him. Heavy lets you get in a solid attack and it isn't affected by control reversal. You don't have to deal with control reversal in your head to keep a rhythm.
3. Gwenpool is a really good champ for this fight when awakened, since she literally cannot die to a special attack. If you can intercept, you can survive a lot of special three attacks with her, and she deals a lot more damage than most of the Avengers you would use instead.
4. Learn the modes and practice observing the buff bar while fighting. The difference between a relatively easy run and one that goes south often comes down to whether you are attacking at the right time, not attacking at the right time, and remembering how the fight changes from step to step. Half my practice runs ended when I acted appropriate for one phase but it was actually a different phase. This is basically six fights in two opponents.
5. The best champs for someone else might not be the best champs for you. Practice, learn which champs you have the best skill and rhythm with, and use those.
6. Although I used them, 4/55 is not needed for this fight. For someone of my skill level, using 5/50s might have cost me a few more potions, but the most dangerous and difficult parts of the fights and also the most expensive were done basically with 5/50s - the two end stages. What you need there is decent damage, good intercept skills, and/or a stack of revives and the ability to attack quickly after the cut scene. Most valuable property: ability to survive special three attacks. Gwenpool did better as a non-avenger than SW did as an Avenger for me. With all the practice I put in, had I used 5/50 versions of my 5* champs, I would have still cleared this fight without spending units. I ain't the best player in the world, but two weeks of practice made me good enough.
Ultimately, my first impression was basically correct. It is a hard fight, but taking advantage of being able to practice, and also learning from other player's runs, makes this fight a very fun fight for players that want to figure out how to beat something and are willing to take many learning runs to figure it out and practice the specific skills required.
I honestly don't remember, since I was practicing on him constantly the stats meant less to me than his health bar, and how far I could push it in the right direction. I will say that practicing with 5/50s on master and then switching to 4/55 for Uncollected meant that Uncollected only felt moderately harder and not a much larger step harder.
There are videos on youtube of people taking him down you could get the stats from, if that was something you were specifically interested in.
Does anyone knows when the infinity dust store and dark atrifacts crystals purchase will expire? I really gotta know this so my resources wont go to waste...
Does anyone knows when the infinity dust store and dark atrifacts crystals purchase will expire? I really gotta know this so my resources wont go to waste...
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I just finished step one of my plan: I've been practicing against Master Thanos for the past few days, using basically 5/50 or 3/45 and going at him until I could beat him without using potions or revives. I finally got him with a team of Scarlet Witch, Iceman, Gwenpool, Archangel, and Nebula, although I cheated at the end and revived SW to finish off the last bit of health on Thanos #2.
I'm now working on Uncollected, and the practice seems to have paid off. In my very first run I managed to get the first Thanos down to just a tiny stub left without using potions or revives. I've got 14 days left to take him down, and its already clear if I spend potions I will get him. But I'm going to keep practicing to see how far I can get without potions, although I may decide to push past stage 3 of each Thanos with some revives from the stash if it looks like I can't quite get the timing right consistently.
So my original impression of this boss being a good design because you can practice against him seems to have been true, at least for me. It isn't costing me anything except time to bring him down so far, and because the energy costs are much lower this month I have a lot of time to practice. But there was a huge benefit to practicing dodging specials and getting used to reversed controls on the easier Master mode Thanos.
One thing that is true for me and I believe is true for a lot people is that practice is not just about hours. I find that I can't just force my way to acquire a skill by just pounding on it enough. What seems to be working for me is practice as my energy refills, but taking breaks in between. And even more: sleeping on it and trying again the next day. I found my performance against Thanos would actually get worse towards the end of the day after so many tries against him, but it would then be a lot better the next day. The practice during the day tended to kick in more the next day. In particular, it seemed like I couldn't track and evade the nightmare projectiles consistently at all on day one and day two, and then suddenly on day three it seemed to me like evading them was dramatically easier.
Is Thanos a harder fight than, say, Ice Phoenix or Guillotine? Yes. But is the last map harder than the last map in the previous uncollected missions? That's a tricky question to answer. I may end the month finishing uncollected while spending practically nothing, and probably fewer revives than I spent on Guillotine total. In that respect, it might be harder *and* cheaper, and to me that's a great property for uncollected difficulty to have.
Whatever happens, it's likely to be less valuable than spending it in the store.
"Snaps fingers after event end" Blows away into the air lol. Seriously though, Kabam stated recently in another forum post that it will just disappear, no turning into gold or anything else after the event ends.
I started with AA and took two tries to get what I wanted: a good rhythm that got me past stage 1 and deep into stage 2. Just about when he went stun immune AA bit the dust, and I switched to Gwenpool. Gwenpool almost got me to the end but I made a mistake and she dropped. I tried with SW but got killed immediately, revived Gwenpool and got some good intercepts. Down goes Thanos #1 with one revive and no other potions.
I started Thanos #2 with Iceman due to bleed immunity. Although Iceman was slow, he could get in attacks without having to worry about bleed. I lost him to a bad Nightmare evade, then switched to Blade. Blade did well, I got good evades and made it to the final stage, got some decent hits in but lost him. Then it was just a case of using the strategy of attack immediately after the cut scene. My intercept skills mostly vanished: I got only a handful of intercepts in, and ended up reviving SW, then Gwenpool, then decided to stick with Gwenpool and revived her about four more times. I ended up using six revives and a bunch of health potions, all of which were going to expire in my stash anyway. Down goes Thanos #2.
Final tally: seven tier 2 revives, about thirty tier 1 and tier 2 potions that were just filling up stash anyway. Zero units spent.
Conclusion: Thanos is a much harder fight as designed than any previous uncollected boss, but the fact that you can practice on him also makes him a much easier boss to finally defeat if you actually practice on him and experiment with different teams. It took me less potions to fully complete uncollected Thanos than it did my first run of Guillotine last month, much less full explore.
Lessons learned:
1. Practice the fights on master before moving on to uncollected. in this case, master practice probably saved me literally hundreds of units of potions. Most important part of practice was learning to evade the standard special attack, and especially dodging nightmare comets.
2. Best strategy for dealing with reversed controls: parry Thanos after the cutscene, and then heavy him. Heavy lets you get in a solid attack and it isn't affected by control reversal. You don't have to deal with control reversal in your head to keep a rhythm.
3. Gwenpool is a really good champ for this fight when awakened, since she literally cannot die to a special attack. If you can intercept, you can survive a lot of special three attacks with her, and she deals a lot more damage than most of the Avengers you would use instead.
4. Learn the modes and practice observing the buff bar while fighting. The difference between a relatively easy run and one that goes south often comes down to whether you are attacking at the right time, not attacking at the right time, and remembering how the fight changes from step to step. Half my practice runs ended when I acted appropriate for one phase but it was actually a different phase. This is basically six fights in two opponents.
5. The best champs for someone else might not be the best champs for you. Practice, learn which champs you have the best skill and rhythm with, and use those.
6. Although I used them, 4/55 is not needed for this fight. For someone of my skill level, using 5/50s might have cost me a few more potions, but the most dangerous and difficult parts of the fights and also the most expensive were done basically with 5/50s - the two end stages. What you need there is decent damage, good intercept skills, and/or a stack of revives and the ability to attack quickly after the cut scene. Most valuable property: ability to survive special three attacks. Gwenpool did better as a non-avenger than SW did as an Avenger for me. With all the practice I put in, had I used 5/50 versions of my 5* champs, I would have still cleared this fight without spending units. I ain't the best player in the world, but two weeks of practice made me good enough.
Ultimately, my first impression was basically correct. It is a hard fight, but taking advantage of being able to practice, and also learning from other player's runs, makes this fight a very fun fight for players that want to figure out how to beat something and are willing to take many learning runs to figure it out and practice the specific skills required.
What where the stats on Uncollected Thanos?
I honestly don't remember, since I was practicing on him constantly the stats meant less to me than his health bar, and how far I could push it in the right direction. I will say that practicing with 5/50s on master and then switching to 4/55 for Uncollected meant that Uncollected only felt moderately harder and not a much larger step harder.
There are videos on youtube of people taking him down you could get the stats from, if that was something you were specifically interested in.
I did beat master Thanos with 5/50.
Get Uncollected! It makes it more fun!
Act 3 is a unit stripper if you try to push through it before you're ready.