Why the New Expert Class Catalyst Daily Quests are a joke.
Razer_Boltz619
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The new quests require 137 energy to explore and it only gives 1550! As you can see in the picture. You can actually buy 1800 fragments for only 270 glory! Before anyone tells me that some people wont have glory. Please consider that anyone who is strong enough to do these quests and actually at a level where they need T4CC, definitely have no problem spending 270 glory everyday for more rewards! 137 energy and your time is much much more valuable than 270 glory.
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Once that week ends u have about 4000+ glory and u can basically have an unlimitef source of these. Also the the rewards u get when u use all energy in quests or others is much better.
Its the same with the quests. U also wait for a class to randomly drop
T1bc / cc run=1 / 1energy
T2bc / cc run=1 / 2 energy
T3bc / cc run=2 / 3 energy
T4bc / cc run=2 / 4 energy
T4cc are arguably harder to obtain and take longer and cost more energy to get than basic.
Lol if ur at a point in the game where u need t4cc then u probably get a good amount of glory. Also i am not very strong. My rating is only 150k and with the new AQ system glory is very easy to get.
Once a week and if you're not using them on potions then you don't care about your alliance winning wars. While I agree that the rewards themselves are awful, they even went out of their way to point out that you can't get a full cat and it's just meant to edge you in the right direction for a specific class. I also see how it's needed. It's better than running the t3cc and selling them. Actually it's about equal to that.
They are only worth it to run when you only need a couple hundred to complete a full class catalyst. And then it all depends on the individuals other energy needs.
They are in no way worth it to run in order to get a full t4cc. I'd take 1.5 years to get enough to get a 4* to 5/50.
I'd recommend taking your own advice and not arguing as if they are such a great addition to the game as a whole. And key people voice their opinions about it.
I have been playing for 10 months and still don't have 3 tech t4cc's. I'm 5000 away from my 3rd one and i don't think these quests are worth it.
I do have and have gotten, recently, 3 of other classes, but these quests as a whole don't come across as a valuable addition to the game.
One i get to within 450 tech t4cc i may do a run, but that's the only reason I'd ever do one of these.
Also when i was in an alliance that only did map 2 AQ and no AW at all, 270 glory was easy to get.
It's all relative to the individual player and a lot of players think these quests are trash.
from this quest you cand get 2 t4cc a year and you need 3 to rank up a 4*, if you dont have any other option for t4cc fragments then you're screwed
I never implied they're meant to form full Cats. They're not a substitute for other sources. That's one of the reasons they're limited. Another is that they run every week, all year long. Those Frags add up. It's entirely possible to run them everyday, if you wanted to. I personally target Cats I need. Everything helps when you're accumulating Frags every month and relying on RNG. It takes months and months to get what you need, so every Frag helps.
In your case, you would have your Tech in a month. Entirely up to you if you feel it's worth it or not. They have to cost more to run, simply because they're worth more than other Cats. It's in scale with the progression in Tiers.
Personally, I don't think they are intended for End-Game Players, yet anyone can do them. However, the most vocal are the people who don't need them. There's a tendency to personalize anything released and compare it to where you are at, but not everything released is meant to help every demographic. They're worth it to people waiting months and months to Rank their first R5 4* or R4 5*.
I agree that it would take an incredible amount of Energy to try and form Cats solely through them. I just think that's kind of the point.
While I do not need t4c, on my main account at least, I do have a second account where I’m looking at getting more t4c outside of Aq and fragment crystals from event quests. These t4c event quests are not a good place for it. My account is trying to do Act 4 exploration, Master, Heroic, Act 5 completion, grind for basic cats, do rifts to name but a few places I need to spend energy.
To then have to spend 137 energy to get 1500 fragments is a joke. An utter joke. My account has 60 energy. If I wake up to do it, use my 60 energy that’s 77 energy left I need to save up. Thats 8 hours later. By that time it’s the evening and I have no time to do Act 4, Act 5, heroic, master, grind for basic cats or do my rifts.
But you’re telling me, if I do that for 24 days, the best part of a month, then I’ll be able to get one t4c of my choice and I’m supposed to think it’s a good idea and thing to spend time to do?
Perhaps you’re right that they aren’t meant to be used to fully form one, but if so, then what’s the point in making it such a large energy cost? It just goes to show how out of touch kabam are. Or, how little they care.
Literally, the only time I will use this is if I am 500 fragments off forming a catalyst. Let’s just assume you spend the same amount of time on each amount of fragments, what is the use in making an area of the game where I am only going to need it 1% of the time? (500/36000)
I’d rather just sell some t3c.
I don't tell other people how to spend their time, but if I wasn't uncollected and wasn't in an expert-level AQ alliance, I would be running it as often as possible. As it is, I will probably run it occasionally at the end of months where I have a surplus of energy, because from my perspective I can see no good reason not to.
I'm guessing there are probably a lot of players that are making the same calculation. If this event came along back when I still had a roster of mostly 4/40s, I would have considered it a god-send. Nothing about the game itself has changed to the point where if I was starting now and in that same point in game progress I wouldn't feel similarly.
Different people might make a different value calculation there, but I think enough people will calculate the event to be worth spending time on to make it a reasonable addition to the game.
The cost of Energy is because they're a Tier higher. It's supposed to cost more Energy than T3. As for the amount, they're limited for a reason. It's 6/7 day Quest. If it was more, it would add up more, and be a great deal more imbalanced. The primary focus for Cats is meant to be AQ, and Uncollected of course. They're just making it somewhat easier to get them other ways, just like the T4CC Arena addition. It all adds up.
Ok that’s great and all, but some people never have a surplus of energy. Some have, like I’ve said, Act 4/5, Master, heroic or whatever. And they won’t have energy to spare. They don’t have 140 energy lying around to spend on 1500 fragments. That’s a hell of a lot to spend on something that “adds up”.
My entire issue with this is the energy. It is too energy draining to make it an acceptable resource farm for something that adds up.
While I do not need t4c, on my main account at least, I do have a second account where I’m looking at getting more t4c outside of Aq and fragment crystals from event quests. These t4c event quests are not a good place for it. My account is trying to do Act 4 exploration, Master, Heroic, Act 5 completion, grind for basic cats, do rifts to name but a few places I need to spend energy.
To then have to spend 137 energy to get 1500 fragments is a joke. An utter joke. My account has 60 energy. If I wake up to do it, use my 60 energy that’s 77 energy left I need to save up. Thats 8 hours later. By that time it’s the evening and I have no time to do Act 4, Act 5, heroic, master, grind for basic cats or do my rifts.
But you’re telling me, if I do that for 24 days, the best part of a month, then I’ll be able to get one t4c of my choice and I’m supposed to think it’s a good idea and thing to spend time to do?
Perhaps you’re right that they aren’t meant to be used to fully form one, but if so, then what’s the point in making it such a large energy cost? It just goes to show how out of touch kabam are. Or, how little they care.
Literally, the only time I will use this is if I am 500 fragments off forming a catalyst. Let’s just assume you spend the same amount of time on each amount of fragments, what is the use in making an area of the game where I am only going to need it 1% of the time? (500/36000)
I’d rather just sell some t3c. [/quote]
Lol so you’re complaining this isn’t worthwhile for your SECOND account?! Who cares? It’s your second account.. nobody’s feeling bad you’re having trouble upgrading your alt account. This isn’t a feature that the game has taken away from you, it’s something that’s been added if you so choose, just like everything else. Don’t like the quest? DONT DO IT. People always have to whine that things aren’t tailored specifically for what they want. Can’t do the expert quest AND act 5, AND act 4, AND event quest? Don’t do them all, nobody’s forcing you. You’re just complaining that somethings been added that doesn’t work for you. Yeah it’s not a lot of frags. I don’t need science t4cc, but I also don’t need my energy currently... event quest done.. act 5 done etc so I went ahead and did it for the 1500 frags. Doesn’t work for you? Then pass on it.