For all the sheep out there: In 15:01 he says that the best and only solution is Blade But do you know that willpower counts as regeneration? Sheeeeep
Wow... I guess nobody thought of that. Since you're so smart, how about you go into the first fight on that path with a kamala khan. Let me know how long it takes to complete that fight using just willpower healing.
before you decide to answer I would suggest you to try the fight first Because I tried with Namor and when I had the willpower healing I was doing normal damage Sheeeeep
You clearly don't know the meaning of the word sheep you clown. How old are you? 10? Cause that's what you act like. Are you forgetting that Namor has regen in his toolkit? If you want to see the stupidity in that path, record a fight with kamala like I said before.
has namor regeneration in his basic attacks? I am talking about he regeneration from willpower, which is happeningg cause the power sting When you hit the opponent and you have the power sting debuff, and you are healing from willpower you can do normal damage But I think it's a bug, so I will report it. Thanks sheeep!
P.S: before you comment again, I suggest you to find some information first
There be trolls aaaarghhh. Yes there are better options then Blade. Magik being the first to come to mind. But that's not really the point of this thread. Neither is the beef you have with seatin. I don't know if he killed your dog or something (if so I'm sincerely sorry) but this is a constructive feedback thread. If you have some to offer, by all means please offer it. Otherwise, you can begin your own thread discussing seatin and sheep. Anyway, thanks for reading and I hope you have an absolutely fantastic day!
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
While I would like to see nexus crystals permanently available for shards, mostly as an alternative to the currently available types of crystals, I do not see that actually improving the roadblock problem.
Anything besides class and/or tag/role crystals would only simulate a solution.
And even besides that, 30k is completely unreasonable. I don't get why that would make sense to anyone here.
With that price tag I would be able to then choose between paying 30k to have 3 chances for 1 champ or pay 30k to have 3 chances for 3 champs. That doesn't make any sense to me, whether I'd currently need a specific champ or not. In both cases I'd always logically go for 3 basics instead of 1 nexus.
15k would be okay, 20k would be a stretch.
I think that's grossly undervaluing the Crystal. One of the factors into cost is the RNG. Drop Rate for example. Being able to have your choice of 3 is quite a valuable commodity. It's essentially a Crystal and 2 redos. That shouldn't come that cheap.
I'm not going further into this, because I already know that we'll only turn in circles.
According to your very own descriptions a nexus crystal is nothing but 3 basics, but worse.
They both draw from the same pool.
Both provide 3 chances from that pool.
One only let's you keep 1 champ the other all 3.
It does not follow to have them priced at 30k. There's no logic to that.
Actually there is. It isn't 3 Basics. With 3 Basics, you roll an outcome and you are locked in with whatever one comes up. A Nexus is your choice of 3. It's 1 Basic with the opportunity to roll it 3 times. That shouldn't come for the price of a Featured.
Man, all these people that care to respond to you are actual saints. They also do it in a respectful manner which seems such a hard thing to do cause nothing you have said in the past 40 pages are shared by or agreed on by another and yet you just keep on posting. Please do not spam this thread so the rest can have a constructive discussion and give feedback.
Man, all these people that care to respond to you are actual saints. They also do it in a respectful manner which seems such a hard thing to do cause nothing you have said in the past 40 pages are shared by or agreed on by another and yet you just keep on posting. Please do not spam this thread so the rest can have a constructive discussion and give feedback.
"cause nothing you have said in the past 40 pages are shared by or agreed on by another and yet you just keep on posting"
I agree with some of their points. Even if you don't agree, it doesn't give you the right to silence someone. This is a forum where we can have a discussion about our opinions on the current state of the game. By attacking another player and telling them their opinion is not valid/needed when they are just giving constructive feedback and doing it in a civil manner, you are creating a toxic and hostile environment, which is the opposite of what we want right now.
Nexus crystals should just replace the current crystal at same cost. You still get 1 champ, you just have a choice, you really get nothing extra, and you can’t fix what’s broke in the value of the game by charging double..., And none of it will matter if they manipulate RNG to keep quality champ pulls low. I have 7 mystic 6*s, if you divide seatins champion list in half For mystics there’s about 12 upper level and 13 lower level. 100% of my mystics are in the lower level. So a choice of would help some, but not sure I’d feel any better with a nexus pull of falcon, IP and Inferioir Iron man.
But you get the choice to pull the best champ out of three in a nexus. Making it the same cost as regular crystals makes no sense.
And plus, you shouldn't just not have the regular crystal. It defeats the whole point of the game. I feel like we should just keep the element of RNG in the regular crystals but allow it to be altered, like in the featured or nexus, but at a higher price.
I think what's colliding here is the is and the ought.
According to the is-side nexus crystals are nessecarily more valuable than basics, because they are designed and marketed that way. Even giving them away for 30k shards, what would be ridiculous, would still decrease their current value in the game by a lot.
Most of us are arguing for the ought-side and long story short, rather than being better than basics, they're just a bit less awful. Therefore we basically say they're ought to be extremely affordable or even replace basics entirely for the same price, since what ought to be is what we see as nessecary to try and improve on broader problems.
I get what you're saying, but there is no point in trying to replace the regular crystals. The game was built on the premise that you would randomly get one champion out of a crystal and you rolled with it. I agree that they should make nexus crystals more accessible to players, but I just don't feel that they should be as cheap as nor replace the regular crystals.
And yes, I get that as the champion pool increases, the chances of getting a specific champ decreases. That's why I'm all for class-specific crystals, and maybe even themed crystals. But, those have to come at a higher price because you're still manipulating RNG, just like the featureds manipulate RNG as well as provide otherwise non-accessible characters.
Okay let me try it again.
Let me start of by saying: everything you said in your last comments is absolutely and 100% correct in the context of what you're trying to convey.
However, the baseline argument is not "we want nexus crystals". There only is a baseline problem, which is the inaccessibility of certain champs in contrast to the inaccessibility of certain pieces of content without certain champs.
From that we go on and think about how this current is actually ought to be.
Making nexus crystals more accessible was one of many suggestions to get from the is to the ought.
The disconnect in the current discussion is that you argue solely the accessibility of nexus crystals according to the is of the game. And again you're absolutely correct there.
However, what we actually argue about is the accessibility of nexus crystals according to the much broader ought of the game.
You logically can not argue against an ought with stating the is and going from there, since the ought per definition entails that the is needs to change.
Example:
A: There ought to be no hunger in this world. B: But that isn't how our world currently works.
While there isn't anything inherently incorrect about statement B, it does not actually touch what statement A implies.
In short:
We're arguing completely different things here lol.
Oh, I completely agree with your opinion on the inaccessibility of champs. Since I've exchanged opinions with other members, I interpreted your statement as something else. Sorry for the inconvenience!
Nexus crystals should just replace the current crystal at same cost. You still get 1 champ, you just have a choice, you really get nothing extra, and you can’t fix what’s broke in the value of the game by charging double..., And none of it will matter if they manipulate RNG to keep quality champ pulls low. I have 7 mystic 6*s, if you divide seatins champion list in half For mystics there’s about 12 upper level and 13 lower level. 100% of my mystics are in the lower level. So a choice of would help some, but not sure I’d feel any better with a nexus pull of falcon, IP and Inferioir Iron man.
But you get the choice to pull the best champ out of three in a nexus. Making it the same cost as regular crystals makes no sense.
And plus, you shouldn't just not have the regular crystal. It defeats the whole point of the game. I feel like we should just keep the element of RNG in the regular crystals but allow it to be altered, like in the featured or nexus, but at a higher price.
I think what's colliding here is the is and the ought.
According to the is-side nexus crystals are nessecarily more valuable than basics, because they are designed and marketed that way. Even giving them away for 30k shards, what would be ridiculous, would still decrease their current value in the game by a lot.
Most of us are arguing for the ought-side and long story short, rather than being better than basics, they're just a bit less awful. Therefore we basically say they're ought to be extremely affordable or even replace basics entirely for the same price, since what ought to be is what we see as nessecary to try and improve on broader problems.
I get what you're saying, but there is no point in trying to replace the regular crystals. The game was built on the premise that you would randomly get one champion out of a crystal and you rolled with it. I agree that they should make nexus crystals more accessible to players, but I just don't feel that they should be as cheap as nor replace the regular crystals.
And yes, I get that as the champion pool increases, the chances of getting a specific champ decreases. That's why I'm all for class-specific crystals, and maybe even themed crystals. But, those have to come at a higher price because you're still manipulating RNG, just like the featureds manipulate RNG as well as provide otherwise non-accessible characters.
Okay let me try it again.
Let me start of by saying: everything you said in your last comments is absolutely and 100% correct in the context of what you're trying to convey.
However, the baseline argument is not "we want nexus crystals". There only is a baseline problem, which is the inaccessibility of certain champs in contrast to the inaccessibility of certain pieces of content without certain champs.
From that we go on and think about how this current is actually ought to be.
Making nexus crystals more accessible was one of many suggestions to get from the is to the ought.
The disconnect in the current discussion is that you argue solely the accessibility of nexus crystals according to the is of the game. And again you're absolutely correct there.
However, what we actually argue about is the accessibility of nexus crystals according to the much broader ought of the game.
You logically can not argue against an ought with stating the is and going from there, since the ought per definition entails that the is needs to change.
Example:
A: There ought to be no hunger in this world. B: But that isn't how our world currently works.
While there isn't anything inherently incorrect about statement B, it does not actually touch what statement A implies.
In short:
We're arguing completely different things here lol.
More accessible doesn't necessarily translate to replacing the Basics with them, which is one of the suggestions here. Currently, they're barely available. Making them purchasable would have to come with some kind of cost because there's a much greater value in them. It also balances things so that people don't just forego Basics completely. You may only be paying for one Champ, but you're also paying for a unique feature that regular RNG doesn't provide. You have the ability to choose from 1 of 3 random outcomes. I suggested 30k because of the symmetry of it. I could reason with your suggestion of 25k. My view is it needs to have a decent cost because it's not your regular Crystal.
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
Yeah because you know what would really make my day? Waiting a while to save up to 30k shards all for me to open a nexus crystal and have to choose between Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight. Oh yeah, that's what I want.
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
Yeah because you know what would really make my day? Waiting a while to save up to 30k shards all for me to open a nexus crystal and have to choose between Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight. Oh yeah, that's what I want.
Lol you nailed it.
While I appreciate the discussion about nexus crystals and their value, I think the point has been made on people wanting them more available in some capacity for the future. But I think you guys aren’t gonna agree on the numbers here and should probably move on to other issues now. Cuz there’s a lot to discuss and the feedback has been amazing so far, let’s not get bogged down on one thing.
Nexus crystals should just replace the current crystal at same cost. You still get 1 champ, you just have a choice, you really get nothing extra, and you can’t fix what’s broke in the value of the game by charging double..., And none of it will matter if they manipulate RNG to keep quality champ pulls low. I have 7 mystic 6*s, if you divide seatins champion list in half For mystics there’s about 12 upper level and 13 lower level. 100% of my mystics are in the lower level. So a choice of would help some, but not sure I’d feel any better with a nexus pull of falcon, IP and Inferioir Iron man.
But you get the choice to pull the best champ out of three in a nexus. Making it the same cost as regular crystals makes no sense.
And plus, you shouldn't just not have the regular crystal. It defeats the whole point of the game. I feel like we should just keep the element of RNG in the regular crystals but allow it to be altered, like in the featured or nexus, but at a higher price.
I think what's colliding here is the is and the ought.
According to the is-side nexus crystals are nessecarily more valuable than basics, because they are designed and marketed that way. Even giving them away for 30k shards, what would be ridiculous, would still decrease their current value in the game by a lot.
Most of us are arguing for the ought-side and long story short, rather than being better than basics, they're just a bit less awful. Therefore we basically say they're ought to be extremely affordable or even replace basics entirely for the same price, since what ought to be is what we see as nessecary to try and improve on broader problems.
I get what you're saying, but there is no point in trying to replace the regular crystals. The game was built on the premise that you would randomly get one champion out of a crystal and you rolled with it. I agree that they should make nexus crystals more accessible to players, but I just don't feel that they should be as cheap as nor replace the regular crystals.
And yes, I get that as the champion pool increases, the chances of getting a specific champ decreases. That's why I'm all for class-specific crystals, and maybe even themed crystals. But, those have to come at a higher price because you're still manipulating RNG, just like the featureds manipulate RNG as well as provide otherwise non-accessible characters.
Okay let me try it again.
Let me start of by saying: everything you said in your last comments is absolutely and 100% correct in the context of what you're trying to convey.
However, the baseline argument is not "we want nexus crystals". There only is a baseline problem, which is the inaccessibility of certain champs in contrast to the inaccessibility of certain pieces of content without certain champs.
From that we go on and think about how this current is actually ought to be.
Making nexus crystals more accessible was one of many suggestions to get from the is to the ought.
The disconnect in the current discussion is that you argue solely the accessibility of nexus crystals according to the is of the game. And again you're absolutely correct there.
However, what we actually argue about is the accessibility of nexus crystals according to the much broader ought of the game.
You logically can not argue against an ought with stating the is and going from there, since the ought per definition entails that the is needs to change.
Example:
A: There ought to be no hunger in this world. B: But that isn't how our world currently works.
While there isn't anything inherently incorrect about statement B, it does not actually touch what statement A implies.
In short:
We're arguing completely different things here lol.
More accessible doesn't necessarily translate to replacing the Basics with them, which is one of the suggestions here. Currently, they're barely available. Making them purchasable would have to come with some kind of cost because there's a much greater value in them. It also balances things so that people don't just forego Basics completely. You may only be paying for one Champ, but you're also paying for a unique feature that regular RNG doesn't provide. You have the ability to choose from 1 of 3 random outcomes. I suggested 30k because of the symmetry of it. I could reason with your suggestion of 25k. My view is it needs to have a decent cost because it's not your regular Crystal.
Yeah that's not even remotely what I said, you're still arguing the is against the ought, yada yada yada.
Please, if you don't understand what I'm saying, don't respond to me. I feel inclined to respond to comments responding to mine, but it's nothing but frustrating if that merely consists of repeating and rephrasing my actual point.
It was a continuation of what we discussed before. I'm not entirely sure why you're debating ought to. It's an IF. If they do. What ought to and what ought not to is moot. We don't decide what's necessity and what isn't. Logically, it's not an ought. The game could continue relying on the same RNG.
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
Yeah because you know what would really make my day? Waiting a while to save up to 30k shards all for me to open a nexus crystal and have to choose between Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight. Oh yeah, that's what I want.
You have the same ability now. Difference is, you don't have a choice. You get what you get. Suggestions are one thing, but realistic ones are another. I can't see them being swapped outright for the Basics. The Featured for example. You're paying extra for the advantages it provides. Same applies to this Crystal.
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
Yeah because you know what would really make my day? Waiting a while to save up to 30k shards all for me to open a nexus crystal and have to choose between Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight. Oh yeah, that's what I want.
You have the same ability now. Difference is, you don't have a choice. You get what you get. Suggestions are one thing, but realistic ones are another. I can't see them being swapped outright for the Basics. The Featured for example. You're paying extra for the advantages it provides. Same applies to this Crystal.
30k is an absolutely ridiculous idea. No sane or veteran player would go for that offer. I'd rather open 3 separate 5* crystals to still end up with a Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight so I could get a decent chunk of 6* shards and get myself closer to 6* Iron Patriot. Quick suggesting absurd cost amounts.
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
Yeah because you know what would really make my day? Waiting a while to save up to 30k shards all for me to open a nexus crystal and have to choose between Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight. Oh yeah, that's what I want.
You have the same ability now. Difference is, you don't have a choice. You get what you get. Suggestions are one thing, but realistic ones are another. I can't see them being swapped outright for the Basics. The Featured for example. You're paying extra for the advantages it provides. Same applies to this Crystal.
30k is an absolutely ridiculous idea. No sane or veteran player would go for that offer. I'd rather open 3 separate 5* crystals to still end up with a Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight so I could get a decent chunk of 6* shards and get myself closer to 6* Iron Patriot. Quick suggesting absurd cost amounts.
If they were trying to take down Sinsiter or The Champion I'd wager they would. Let's put this into perspective. They give a Nexus for doing Act 6. Now people are suggesting replacing the Basic with them? I don't care how high expectations are. I can't be the only one who sees the stretch in that. Advantages have a cost, and choosing one of 3 Champs is a pretty big advantage given the system.
lol its the fact that he 100% abyss we talking about.
you say that but ur nowhere near where the level hes at.
the fact that none of these champs help him with prestige nor does it help him with his roster.
you do know those champs wont help him with nothing for where hes at end game content right?
noone will be happy with these rewards vs amount of money,time,roster to do this content for an "endgame" player
and you do know this is 100% abyss rewaeds right? one of the most hardesr contents in the game. not like you would know.
Getting shards from hard content is no different than getting shards from EQ or an offer. You're still at the mercy of RNG. People really need to stop tacking on the difficulty of what champ shards were gained from to the crystals themselves.
Just received notice from someone in my bg that they're looking to take a break as soon as we find a replacement. Reasons for wanting to put the game down included but was not limited to the current system for obtaining 6* champs. He's capable of doing Abyss, but has no motivation. "I've barely got one 6* I would consider ranking up.." He enjoyed the Grandmaster fight, but not all the niche nodes in the rest of the act. Essentially, his problem is that the 6* pool keeps getting more and more trash added to it, yet the rate at which we aquire shards is still quite slow. When actually playing the game that is.. not buying crystals. He's not really interested in gambling, but would rather actually play the game itself:) After all, mcoc is a game, right? Not a gambling app.
One of the things he mentioned that he'd come back for would be a Cavalier EQ. So long as the rewards were actually worth the effort. I think if kabam shifted more of it's focus towards getting the Cav difficulty released, they see a big difference in the morale of the community. Not saying it's the only thing that needs attention. Many things do, but I can see that keeping some folks engaged in the meantime while others areas are addressed.
Anyhow, just wanted to give some direct feedback from a member of my alliance and why they are putting the game down.
lol its the fact that he 100% abyss we talking about.
you say that but ur nowhere near where the level hes at.
the fact that none of these champs help him with prestige nor does it help him with his roster.
you do know those champs wont help him with nothing for where hes at end game content right?
noone will be happy with these rewards vs amount of money,time,roster to do this content for an "endgame" player
and you do know this is 100% abyss rewaeds right? one of the most hardesr contents in the game. not like you would know.
Getting shards from hard content is no different than getting shards from EQ or an offer. You're still at the mercy of RNG. People really need to stop tacking on the difficulty of what champ shards were gained from to the crystals themselves.
Exactly. Completing difficult content doesn't mean you deserve to get a good champ. It means you deserve to get more chances at a good champ.
lol its the fact that he 100% abyss we talking about.
you say that but ur nowhere near where the level hes at.
the fact that none of these champs help him with prestige nor does it help him with his roster.
you do know those champs wont help him with nothing for where hes at end game content right?
noone will be happy with these rewards vs amount of money,time,roster to do this content for an "endgame" player
and you do know this is 100% abyss rewaeds right? one of the most hardesr contents in the game. not like you would know.
Getting shards from hard content is no different than getting shards from EQ or an offer. You're still at the mercy of RNG. People really need to stop tacking on the difficulty of what champ shards were gained from to the crystals themselves.
I think you're missing the point a little.
The argument I see people making is rewards for the most difficult content in the game shouldn't be left to "standard" RNG where you can pull a Groot or something.
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
Yeah because you know what would really make my day? Waiting a while to save up to 30k shards all for me to open a nexus crystal and have to choose between Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight. Oh yeah, that's what I want.
You have the same ability now. Difference is, you don't have a choice. You get what you get. Suggestions are one thing, but realistic ones are another. I can't see them being swapped outright for the Basics. The Featured for example. You're paying extra for the advantages it provides. Same applies to this Crystal.
30k is an absolutely ridiculous idea. No sane or veteran player would go for that offer. I'd rather open 3 separate 5* crystals to still end up with a Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight so I could get a decent chunk of 6* shards and get myself closer to 6* Iron Patriot. Quick suggesting absurd cost amounts.
If they were trying to take down Sinsiter or The Champion I'd wager they would. Let's put this into perspective. They give a Nexus for doing Act 6. Now people are suggesting replacing the Basic with them? I don't care how high expectations are. I can't be the only one who sees the stretch in that. Advantages have a cost, and choosing one of 3 Champs is a pretty big advantage given the system.
Nobody is saying it shouldn’t cost more. 30k is ridiculous because by the definition of your own crystal you are giving up 3 champs to get 1 champ from the same pool. Which means it is exactly the same thing as seeing the next 3 and keeping all of them or seeing the next 3 and having to choose one of them for the same price. Only a complete fool would go for this nexus for 30k.
lol its the fact that he 100% abyss we talking about.
you say that but ur nowhere near where the level hes at.
the fact that none of these champs help him with prestige nor does it help him with his roster.
you do know those champs wont help him with nothing for where hes at end game content right?
noone will be happy with these rewards vs amount of money,time,roster to do this content for an "endgame" player
and you do know this is 100% abyss rewaeds right? one of the most hardesr contents in the game. not like you would know.
Getting shards from hard content is no different than getting shards from EQ or an offer. You're still at the mercy of RNG. People really need to stop tacking on the difficulty of what champ shards were gained from to the crystals themselves.
I think you're missing the point a little.
The argument I see people making is rewards for the most difficult content in the game shouldn't be left to "standard" RNG where you can pull a Groot or something.
Wholeheartedly disagree when it comes to champion crystals. If you removed the randomness I'd be willing to bet we'd barely get a quarter of the shards from any content that we do currently. Rank resources are a different story imo though. Someone like Mike getting 3 skill t5c is horrible when champion acquisition is as random as it is. Since they've openly said they don't want us being able to target champions multiple times, and I can live with that, there's absolutely no reason the rank resource rewards should have been completely random as well.
And this was my 100% AoL opening just so you don't think I got lucky after it
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
Yeah because you know what would really make my day? Waiting a while to save up to 30k shards all for me to open a nexus crystal and have to choose between Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight. Oh yeah, that's what I want.
You have the same ability now. Difference is, you don't have a choice. You get what you get. Suggestions are one thing, but realistic ones are another. I can't see them being swapped outright for the Basics. The Featured for example. You're paying extra for the advantages it provides. Same applies to this Crystal.
30k is an absolutely ridiculous idea. No sane or veteran player would go for that offer. I'd rather open 3 separate 5* crystals to still end up with a Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight so I could get a decent chunk of 6* shards and get myself closer to 6* Iron Patriot. Quick suggesting absurd cost amounts.
If they were trying to take down Sinsiter or The Champion I'd wager they would. Let's put this into perspective. They give a Nexus for doing Act 6. Now people are suggesting replacing the Basic with them? I don't care how high expectations are. I can't be the only one who sees the stretch in that. Advantages have a cost, and choosing one of 3 Champs is a pretty big advantage given the system.
Nobody is saying it shouldn’t cost more. 30k is ridiculous because by the definition of your own crystal you are giving up 3 champs to get 1 champ from the same pool. Which means it is exactly the same thing as seeing the next 3 and keeping all of them or seeing the next 3 and having to choose one of them for the same price. Only a complete fool would go for this nexus for 30k.
As I said a few comments ago, 30k was an idea because of the symmetry. You're getting 3 choices and it's also the same as the T4 trade-in. I also said I would be open to considering 25k like someone else mentioned. Anything less than 20k and I don't agree at all.
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
Yeah because you know what would really make my day? Waiting a while to save up to 30k shards all for me to open a nexus crystal and have to choose between Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight. Oh yeah, that's what I want.
You have the same ability now. Difference is, you don't have a choice. You get what you get. Suggestions are one thing, but realistic ones are another. I can't see them being swapped outright for the Basics. The Featured for example. You're paying extra for the advantages it provides. Same applies to this Crystal.
30k is an absolutely ridiculous idea. No sane or veteran player would go for that offer. I'd rather open 3 separate 5* crystals to still end up with a Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight so I could get a decent chunk of 6* shards and get myself closer to 6* Iron Patriot. Quick suggesting absurd cost amounts.
If they were trying to take down Sinsiter or The Champion I'd wager they would. Let's put this into perspective. They give a Nexus for doing Act 6. Now people are suggesting replacing the Basic with them? I don't care how high expectations are. I can't be the only one who sees the stretch in that. Advantages have a cost, and choosing one of 3 Champs is a pretty big advantage given the system.
Nobody is saying it shouldn’t cost more. 30k is ridiculous because by the definition of your own crystal you are giving up 3 champs to get 1 champ from the same pool. Which means it is exactly the same thing as seeing the next 3 and keeping all of them or seeing the next 3 and having to choose one of them for the same price. Only a complete fool would go for this nexus for 30k.
As I said a few comments ago, 30k was an idea because of the symmetry. You're getting 3 choices and it's also the same as the T4 trade-in. I also said I would be open to considering 25k like someone else mentioned. Anything less than 20k and I don't agree at all.
Holy **** you don't get it. Lets say I see a random casino machine with a $10 spin. I have 30 dollars. I ask the employee if I can spend $30 in order to keep one of my three spins, instead of ALL THREE.
What I'm trying to say is there is absolutely no difference between spending 30k on basic 6* and 30k on nexus 6* besides the fact that you get 1/3 from the nexus and 3/3 with the basics. Your suggested price needs to be something like 20k to make any sense at all.
Actually 30k seems about what I would set it at. 20k for a Class Crystal. 15 for Featured.
Just because that’s what you would set it doesn’t mean it’s a good value. 20K might be reasonable for a class crystal but 30K is ridiculous for a nexus.
It's not ridiculous at all. If you want a choice, you have to pay a cost. The 6* was given for Act 6. You think it's going to be that cheap? 20k to narrow down the RNG to Class. 30k to have your choice of 3 is not unreasonable. You say that like it's a PHC. Lol. Put one out for 30k I guarantee people will opt for it. 3 chances at what you want is better than one.
Yeah because you know what would really make my day? Waiting a while to save up to 30k shards all for me to open a nexus crystal and have to choose between Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight. Oh yeah, that's what I want.
You have the same ability now. Difference is, you don't have a choice. You get what you get. Suggestions are one thing, but realistic ones are another. I can't see them being swapped outright for the Basics. The Featured for example. You're paying extra for the advantages it provides. Same applies to this Crystal.
30k is an absolutely ridiculous idea. No sane or veteran player would go for that offer. I'd rather open 3 separate 5* crystals to still end up with a Groot, Superior Iron man, and Moon Knight so I could get a decent chunk of 6* shards and get myself closer to 6* Iron Patriot. Quick suggesting absurd cost amounts.
If they were trying to take down Sinsiter or The Champion I'd wager they would. Let's put this into perspective. They give a Nexus for doing Act 6. Now people are suggesting replacing the Basic with them? I don't care how high expectations are. I can't be the only one who sees the stretch in that. Advantages have a cost, and choosing one of 3 Champs is a pretty big advantage given the system.
Nobody is saying it shouldn’t cost more. 30k is ridiculous because by the definition of your own crystal you are giving up 3 champs to get 1 champ from the same pool. Which means it is exactly the same thing as seeing the next 3 and keeping all of them or seeing the next 3 and having to choose one of them for the same price. Only a complete fool would go for this nexus for 30k.
As I said a few comments ago, 30k was an idea because of the symmetry. You're getting 3 choices and it's also the same as the T4 trade-in. I also said I would be open to considering 25k like someone else mentioned. Anything less than 20k and I don't agree at all.
Holy **** you don't get it. Lets say I see a random casino machine with a $10 spin. I have 30 dollars. I ask the employee if I can spend $30 in order to keep one of my three spins, instead of ALL THREE.
What I'm trying to say is there is absolutely no difference between spending 30k on basic 6* and 30k on nexus 6* besides the fact that you get 1/3 from the nexus and 3/3 with the basics. Your suggested price needs to be something like 20k to make any sense at all.
Apparently you didn't read what I just said because 20k was in the realm of possibility for me.
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I agree with some of their points. Even if you don't agree, it doesn't give you the right to silence someone. This is a forum where we can have a discussion about our opinions on the current state of the game. By attacking another player and telling them their opinion is not valid/needed when they are just giving constructive feedback and doing it in a civil manner, you are creating a toxic and hostile environment, which is the opposite of what we want right now.
You may only be paying for one Champ, but you're also paying for a unique feature that regular RNG doesn't provide. You have the ability to choose from 1 of 3 random outcomes. I suggested 30k because of the symmetry of it. I could reason with your suggestion of 25k. My view is it needs to have a decent cost because it's not your regular Crystal.
While I appreciate the discussion about nexus crystals and their value, I think the point has been made on people wanting them more available in some capacity for the future. But I think you guys aren’t gonna agree on the numbers here and should probably move on to other issues now. Cuz there’s a lot to discuss and the feedback has been amazing so far, let’s not get bogged down on one thing.
One of the things he mentioned that he'd come back for would be a Cavalier EQ. So long as the rewards were actually worth the effort. I think if kabam shifted more of it's focus towards getting the Cav difficulty released, they see a big difference in the morale of the community. Not saying it's the only thing that needs attention. Many things do, but I can see that keeping some folks engaged in the meantime while others areas are addressed.
Anyhow, just wanted to give some direct feedback from a member of my alliance and why they are putting the game down.
The argument I see people making is rewards for the most difficult content in the game shouldn't be left to "standard" RNG where you can pull a Groot or something.
And this was my 100% AoL opening just so you don't think I got lucky after it
What I'm trying to say is there is absolutely no difference between spending 30k on basic 6* and 30k on nexus 6* besides the fact that you get 1/3 from the nexus and 3/3 with the basics. Your suggested price needs to be something like 20k to make any sense at all.