@Etjama i was simply seeking to make people think for themselves and not get caught up in the hype, nothing personal
@Grumpy again, the hype, BWCV has access to 3 immunities, regen, cheat death, power control and buff immunity (when this effect is on the opponent they are immune to buffs, and BW gains power for each failed buff. Doom has tankiness, high block proficiency, better power control, imo better nullify, great power gain with power steal/MD, and amazing damage. His downside is that he's not suicide friendly. I'm sure some people here are just going off Seatin's tier list, but most are forming their own opinions so quit accusing people of doing so. Doom's nullify is RNG based a lot of the time. He might have stagger as well, but this ability is impeded by some mechanics nowadays. Claire's buff immunity bypasses all of those anti nullify or stagger mechanics! Also, have you ever checked to see her block proficiency?
@Grumpy again, the hype, BWCV has access to 3 immunities, regen, cheat death, power control and buff immunity (when this effect is on the opponent they are immune to buffs, and BW gains power for each failed buff. Doom has tankiness, high block proficiency, better power control, imo better nullify, great power gain with power steal/MD, and amazing damage. His downside is that he's not suicide friendly. I'm sure some people here are just going off Seatin's tier list, but most are forming their own opinions so quit accusing people of doing so.
@Grumpy again, the hype, BWCV has access to 3 immunities, regen, cheat death, power control and buff immunity (when this effect is on the opponent they are immune to buffs, and BW gains power for each failed buff.
@Erocks its like comparing a knife to a spoon, they’re both cutlery but have completely different functions
Symbiote Supreme has the best animations in the game hands down, and he can nullify buffs instantly, survive nearly everything with his protection phase, bleed everything to do death with bleeds stronger than Claire Voyant, high damage, and the fact that he drags his opponent into another dimension with his sp3, while Doom drags his opponent to Latveria.
I love Claire, to bits, but I’ve got to hand it to Doom. I think the big thing he has over her is he controls the fight. Not many champions do that as effectively. But honestly they are very different champions.Doom has the superior power controlClaire has the better nullify Doom is tankier at base but Claire can regenDoom has much higher damage outputBut Claire is triple immune.Claire is one of the best champs with suicides while Doom suffers heavily.I do think it’s worth mentioning that Claire can place 3 types of DOT. This allows her to take Do you bleed, acid wash and Pleasure to Burn, as well as the poisons being an in built heal mitigationBoth are incredibly versatile and excellent champions. No one can be blamed for putting one above the other honestly. Sym Supreme is 3rd, but he’s kind of niche. Basically mystic Archangel. Everyone is else is pretty far behind That last part is just crazy. Not only is having sym supreme as nr 3 a crime. But saying other great champions like magik. Vooodoo. Ms. Sorcerer supreme is pretty far behind is number one ****
I love Claire, to bits, but I’ve got to hand it to Doom. I think the big thing he has over her is he controls the fight. Not many champions do that as effectively. But honestly they are very different champions.Doom has the superior power controlClaire has the better nullify Doom is tankier at base but Claire can regenDoom has much higher damage outputBut Claire is triple immune.Claire is one of the best champs with suicides while Doom suffers heavily.I do think it’s worth mentioning that Claire can place 3 types of DOT. This allows her to take Do you bleed, acid wash and Pleasure to Burn, as well as the poisons being an in built heal mitigationBoth are incredibly versatile and excellent champions. No one can be blamed for putting one above the other honestly. Sym Supreme is 3rd, but he’s kind of niche. Basically mystic Archangel. Everyone is else is pretty far behind
I love Claire, to bits, but I’ve got to hand it to Doom. I think the big thing he has over her is he controls the fight. Not many champions do that as effectively. But honestly they are very different champions.Doom has the superior power controlClaire has the better nullify Doom is tankier at base but Claire can regenDoom has much higher damage outputBut Claire is triple immune.Claire is one of the best champs with suicides while Doom suffers heavily.I do think it’s worth mentioning that Claire can place 3 types of DOT. This allows her to take Do you bleed, acid wash and Pleasure to Burn, as well as the poisons being an in built heal mitigationBoth are incredibly versatile and excellent champions. No one can be blamed for putting one above the other honestly. Sym Supreme is 3rd, but he’s kind of niche. Basically mystic Archangel. Everyone is else is pretty far behind That last part is just crazy. Not only is having sym supreme as nr 3 a crime. But saying other great champions like magik. Vooodoo. Ms. Sorcerer supreme is pretty far behind is number one **** Why am I not surprised? They are great champions, what I mean is that those top 3 are so dominant. I’ve got Magik, Voodoo and Sorceror Supreme at R5 as well as Claire Voyant and Symbiote Supreme and I honestly use Claire and Sym so much more than the other champs. Magik probably sees the most play outside of them but even then that’s not too often
I love Claire, to bits, but I’ve got to hand it to Doom. I think the big thing he has over her is he controls the fight. Not many champions do that as effectively. But honestly they are very different champions.Doom has the superior power controlClaire has the better nullify Doom is tankier at base but Claire can regenDoom has much higher damage outputBut Claire is triple immune.Claire is one of the best champs with suicides while Doom suffers heavily.I do think it’s worth mentioning that Claire can place 3 types of DOT. This allows her to take Do you bleed, acid wash and Pleasure to Burn, as well as the poisons being an in built heal mitigationBoth are incredibly versatile and excellent champions. No one can be blamed for putting one above the other honestly. Sym Supreme is 3rd, but he’s kind of niche. Basically mystic Archangel. Everyone is else is pretty far behind That last part is just crazy. Not only is having sym supreme as nr 3 a crime. But saying other great champions like magik. Vooodoo. Ms. Sorcerer supreme is pretty far behind is number one **** Why am I not surprised? They are great champions, what I mean is that those top 3 are so dominant. I’ve got Magik, Voodoo and Sorceror Supreme at R5 as well as Claire Voyant and Symbiote Supreme and I honestly use Claire and Sym so much more than the other champs. Magik probably sees the most play outside of them but even then that’s not too often I honestly value Sorcerer and Magik over SS. They're less situation dependant. Magik is just get to a Sp2, backdraft, and win. And Sorcerer is just amazing. Tons of utility and sustainability with some really solid damage from those armor breaks.
I love Claire, to bits, but I’ve got to hand it to Doom. I think the big thing he has over her is he controls the fight. Not many champions do that as effectively. But honestly they are very different champions.Doom has the superior power controlClaire has the better nullify Doom is tankier at base but Claire can regenDoom has much higher damage outputBut Claire is triple immune.Claire is one of the best champs with suicides while Doom suffers heavily.I do think it’s worth mentioning that Claire can place 3 types of DOT. This allows her to take Do you bleed, acid wash and Pleasure to Burn, as well as the poisons being an in built heal mitigationBoth are incredibly versatile and excellent champions. No one can be blamed for putting one above the other honestly. Sym Supreme is 3rd, but he’s kind of niche. Basically mystic Archangel. Everyone is else is pretty far behind That last part is just crazy. Not only is having sym supreme as nr 3 a crime. But saying other great champions like magik. Vooodoo. Ms. Sorcerer supreme is pretty far behind is number one **** Why am I not surprised? They are great champions, what I mean is that those top 3 are so dominant. I’ve got Magik, Voodoo and Sorceror Supreme at R5 as well as Claire Voyant and Symbiote Supreme and I honestly use Claire and Sym so much more than the other champs. Magik probably sees the most play outside of them but even then that’s not too often Im not surprised either coming from the guy who undervalues havok:/ Magik is phenomenal and is probably the most used mystic in aw these days at high tiers at least. Sym is a great champ aswell but hes much more limited then champs like morningstr. Doom. Cv and magik
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I love Claire, to bits, but I’ve got to hand it to Doom. I think the big thing he has over her is he controls the fight. Not many champions do that as effectively. But honestly they are very different champions.Doom has the superior power controlClaire has the better nullify Doom is tankier at base but Claire can regenDoom has much higher damage outputBut Claire is triple immune.Claire is one of the best champs with suicides while Doom suffers heavily.I do think it’s worth mentioning that Claire can place 3 types of DOT. This allows her to take Do you bleed, acid wash and Pleasure to Burn, as well as the poisons being an in built heal mitigationBoth are incredibly versatile and excellent champions. No one can be blamed for putting one above the other honestly. Sym Supreme is 3rd, but he’s kind of niche. Basically mystic Archangel. Everyone is else is pretty far behind That last part is just crazy. Not only is having sym supreme as nr 3 a crime. But saying other great champions like magik. Vooodoo. Ms. Sorcerer supreme is pretty far behind is number one **** Why am I not surprised? They are great champions, what I mean is that those top 3 are so dominant. I’ve got Magik, Voodoo and Sorceror Supreme at R5 as well as Claire Voyant and Symbiote Supreme and I honestly use Claire and Sym so much more than the other champs. Magik probably sees the most play outside of them but even then that’s not too often Im not surprised either coming from the guy who undervalues havok:/ Magik is phenomenal and is probably the most used mystic in aw these days at high tiers at least. Sym is a great champ aswell but hes much more limited then champs like morningstr. Doom. Cv and magik Magik's used a lot in AW, but not nearly as much as Doom. Mate i said high tiers at least
I love Claire, to bits, but I’ve got to hand it to Doom. I think the big thing he has over her is he controls the fight. Not many champions do that as effectively. But honestly they are very different champions.Doom has the superior power controlClaire has the better nullify Doom is tankier at base but Claire can regenDoom has much higher damage outputBut Claire is triple immune.Claire is one of the best champs with suicides while Doom suffers heavily.I do think it’s worth mentioning that Claire can place 3 types of DOT. This allows her to take Do you bleed, acid wash and Pleasure to Burn, as well as the poisons being an in built heal mitigationBoth are incredibly versatile and excellent champions. No one can be blamed for putting one above the other honestly. Sym Supreme is 3rd, but he’s kind of niche. Basically mystic Archangel. Everyone is else is pretty far behind That last part is just crazy. Not only is having sym supreme as nr 3 a crime. But saying other great champions like magik. Vooodoo. Ms. Sorcerer supreme is pretty far behind is number one **** Why am I not surprised? They are great champions, what I mean is that those top 3 are so dominant. I’ve got Magik, Voodoo and Sorceror Supreme at R5 as well as Claire Voyant and Symbiote Supreme and I honestly use Claire and Sym so much more than the other champs. Magik probably sees the most play outside of them but even then that’s not too often Im not surprised either coming from the guy who undervalues havok:/ Magik is phenomenal and is probably the most used mystic in aw these days at high tiers at least. Sym is a great champ aswell but hes much more limited then champs like morningstr. Doom. Cv and magik Magik's used a lot in AW, but not nearly as much as Doom.