Black Widow (Deadly Origin) Appreciation Thread
TheBair123
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I got her from the free side quest featured, and wasn’t all that excited. I remembered facing her was annoying in the red room quest in may, but I didn’t think she was an amazing champ. I WAS SO WRONG. She can stack tons of shocks, her SP2 does a ton of damage; and her 7 hit combo flows so well. I think she’s a top 3 skill behind Ægon and NF. If you think blade is better, come at me
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Edit: L and XL champs not villians
Does anyone here actually refer to BWDO as BWM instead ? (Haven’t seen any other person reference that way). And what if Claire Voyant gets her own Movie in future (then both would be “Movie” ? lol)
And even though not her own dedicated movie, OG BW has been in several movies as that OG version of her already too.
She is really fun to play and her damage is decent (when shock debuff can be applied correctly). I would say, in a right scenario, that shock debuff make her damage just unbelievably great.
However, the restriction of this black widow is also from this almost-guaranteed Shock debuff:
First, you can’t deny that players need to think about the utilities of a champ before bringing this champ into a quest, particular endgame contents or monthly quest with Cavalier difficulty. When we are talking about a Skill champ, we usually talking about taking this skill champ to counter some annoying Science champs, like Human Torch, Thing, Electro, MODOK, Spidey, Void, Spider Gwen, Spider Mike Morales, Wasp, etc., or even more other non-Science Champs.
Then let’s see how BWDO against aforementioned Science Champs:
vs. Human Torch——She will instantly get red by HT’s incinerate debuff due to her Energy Damage with Shock debuff;
vs. Thing——Her damage is largely reduced because Thing is immune to Shock debuff;
vs. Electro——Her damage is also largely reduced because Electro won’t take any damage from Shock. Meanwhile, Electro gain power from the Shock debuff, making the scenario even worse;
vs. MODOK——well, just a common fight with class advantage, nothing special;
vs. Wasp/Spidey/Spider Gwen/Spider MM——same as MODOK, she is a Miss counter, but not an Evade counter;
vs. Void——Just like fighting other opponents who are not immune to shock. Her damage is decent, but this cannot make her become a priority for this fight as many other Skill champs can hit hard as she does, plus tons of other utilities.
Then, let’s compare BWDO with other top Skill champs (Nick Fury/Blade/Aegon/SS/Elsa Bloodstone/KillMonger), particularly for the fights I mentioned above:
vs. Human Torch: Blade/NF can trigger Bleed debuff, making the duration of incinerate much shorter;
vs. Thing: similarly, Blade and NF can “bleed” Thing (I know he is immune to bleed), making the rock stack “well-controlled”, which is also important to control the rhythm of fight; SS can apply Slow debuff on Thing, simply making Thing’s unstoppable vanished;
vs. Electro: The danger sense of Blade (paired with GR) can reduced Ability Accuracy of Electro by 40%, making him have less chance to take damage from Electro’s Shock recoil; meanwhile, Blade’s danger sense almost double his attack rating, making the fight so easy; besides, even though Blade cannot 100% avoid Shock recoil from Electro, he has an insane regeneration if he is awakened.
vs. Wasp/Spider-Universe Champs: Kill Monger, Elsa Bloodstone, NF and SS are all great evade counters, period.
vs. Void/MODOK: similar to Electro fight, blade’s danger sense greatly boosts his attack rating.
Apart from fighting those Science champs, Blade’s danger sense makes him a top seed to against several annoying mystic and villain champs like Magik, Dormammu, Mephisto, Terrax, Dr. Doom, Magneto (particularly after buffed), Sentinal, Kill Monger, Mojo, Akt-Walker, Mysterio, Storm Pyramid X, Annihilus, Mordo, Red Skull, Green Goblin, Ultron....; NF’s great team synergies and “real NF phase” making him just decent for almost every quest team; Aegon with high combo# is the No.1 units-saver for long quest like LOL or Abyss, no doubt.
So, back to my statement in the very beginning: BWDO is fun to play. If you love this character, please rank her up and bring her to quest.....
——Then you will notice that there are so many fights she cannot deal with.....🤷🏾♂️
In terms of overall ranking, putting her with Elsa Bloodstone and Killmonger in a same tier is reasonable. Sometime I even think Elsa Bloodstone is better than her.
I do like her, I just tell the truth....
I think she's a fun champ and I had a ton of resources to use up so decided to R5 her last night. Is she the best champ, no. But she's a ton of fun and I was looking for a useful fun champ and that's exactly what she is. No regrets on ranking her up.
She doesn't have any sustainable or reliable utility that's why she was considered 5th best skill champ, if kabam do some tune up in her ability then she can be top 2-3 skill champ because current she have only some solid damage output (if you know how to use her)