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Apocalypse AQ Boss : Can we take a second to see how restrictive this new AQ boss is.

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  • mgj0630mgj0630 Member Posts: 1,096 ★★★★
    Has anyone used Red Magneto against him yet? He's a mutant, which is obviously bad against Apocalypse, but Apocalypse has a #metal tag, so that should reverse the healing from Vigor right? And at max sig, Magneto has a damage cap against everything but sp3.

    I brought mine to map 5 today, but an ally mate killed him before I was able to take a stab with Magneto, so I'm asking this in general curiosity.
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    edited December 2020
    @Kill_Grey it's not letting me quote. 😑

    I'm not at all inexperienced with Ghost. I have the maxed 4* that I still use often. In fact, I used her for Apocalypse in the EQ when he came out and am currently using her for V3 exploration. I personally don't have those frame drops and don't take the block damage you're talking about cause I'm either baiting a dash or a special and if they won't do either, I wait it out. All you have to do is dex 1 of the Sp1 beams 90% of the time.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    Etjama said:

    @Kill_Grey it's not letting me quote. 😑

    I'm not at all inexperienced with Ghost. I have the maxed 4* that I still use often. In fact, I used her for Apocalypse in the EQ when he came out and am currently using her for V3 exploration. I personally don't have those frame drops and don't take the block damage you're talking about cause I'm either baiting a dash or a special and if they won't do either, I wait it out. All you have to do is dex 1 of the Sp1 beams 90% of the time.

    Well yeah, that could normally work. But blocking 2 beams of his special 1 on a 20k attack apocalypse is still about 40% health loss each time.
  • ShikinaShikina Member Posts: 27 ★
    edited December 2020
    Day one in map 6 end my alliance got massacred. The block damage alone with the stun is way too OP.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,664 ★★★★★
    I find this strange - I almost solo’d apocalypse (map 6) with my rank 5 g2099. I didn’t find it too bad at all, intercept where needed and block and punish specials
  • DaddriedaDaddrieda Member Posts: 1,636 ★★★★
    Emma Frost could be helpful as her diamond form allows her to be stun immune, but you would need to make sure that Apocalypse always have more power bar than you.
  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Member Posts: 2,592 ★★★★★
    Would Magneto work because Apoc is #metal....?
  • GreekhitGreekhit Member Posts: 2,820 ★★★★★
    Ultron and OG Vision both work wonders on Apocalypse 😉
  • LibertyPrimeV1LibertyPrimeV1 Member Posts: 4,179 ★★★★★
    Apocalypse is #Metal right?
    Anyone tried Magneto with his 50% Perfect Block Chance, -70% Ability Accuracy Reduction, and -105% Regen Rate.

    Also once Apocalypse becomes Bleed Immune, Magento will gain those insane Armor Break Stacks on the Sp3.
  • NeotwismNeotwism Member Posts: 1,803 ★★★★★
    Its the first day. Let's wait until after this cycle is complete before we start asking for changes. This happens every time AQ changes. Ppl complain at first and then they learn the fight and counters and it's no problem a few weeks later.
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    Kill_Grey said:

    Etjama said:

    Kill_Grey said:

    Etjama said:

    I've got the Sp1 evade down to being successful about 90% of the time after only starting to practice today. Will hopefully try for a boss kill with G99 tomorrow. I assume the solution is either going to be:

    a) Being able to dex his specials
    b) Ghost
    c) Sorcerer Supreme

    Can't really think of much else.

    Ghost gets ruined, bruv. Trust me, I've tried.

    The block damage is ridiculous!
    Well you rarely should be taking a full special on the block. Chances are you're either going to phase all or most of it and you can just dex the rest in most fights. Learning to dex his Sp1 would be good for even the people that use Ghost on him to learn. After watching a video, it's really not too horrible. Just dex thrice as the rock in front of his foot just barely starts to moves down.
    Wow, your inexperience at ghosting is way too obvious here. Not tryna sound insulting tho ✌🏾
    Not everyone's device has the same performance for starters. A simple frame drop during an attempt to dodge his specials is the end of you. His specials are long, so Ghost can't phase through them either. The block damage is too much, so trying to be safe by blocking his specials is unavoidable damage. You can't push him to SP 3 either because the global node is now on him too.
    I'm not at all inexperienced with Ghost. I have the maxed 4* that I still use often. In fact, I used her for Apocalypse in the EQ when he came out and am currently using her for V3 exploration. I personally don't have those frame drops and don't take the block damage you're talking about cause I'm either baiting a dash or a special and if they won't do either, I wait it out. All you have to do is dex 1 beam 95% of the time.
  • BestReconBestRecon Member Posts: 516 ★★★
    Yesterday I tried using cmm, took out about 70% health in one go.
  • Rayaan_2000Rayaan_2000 Member Posts: 655 ★★★
    I still can't believe that no one has mentioned tigra yet, she's by far the best option, no sp1 and sp2 block damage, and you'll gain a lot of power during the sp1 animation as well
  • Realm_Of_RahRealm_Of_Rah Member Posts: 430 ★★★
    Yodabolt21 said:

    Would Magneto work because Apoc is #metal....?

    LibertyPrimeV1 said:

    Apocalypse is #Metal right?
    Anyone tried Magneto with his 50% Perfect Block Chance, -70% Ability Accuracy Reduction, and -105% Regen Rate.

    Also once Apocalypse becomes Bleed Immune, Magento will gain those insane Armor Break Stacks on the Sp3.

    He becomes stun immune the moment you enter the fight, his attack values are much higher then the EQ version. Might be possible but it would be really sketchy
  • World EaterWorld Eater Member Posts: 3,711 ★★★★★
    Dormmamu AQ boss was released without his awakened ability but if anyone remembers , fighting him did cause a lot of game crashes upon release.

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/24/alliance-quests-dormammus-dominion
  • BulmktBulmkt Member Posts: 1,623 ★★★★
    Thechamp8556 said:

    I did fairly well with guilly 2099. I never use pre fight. Gotta practice dodging his specials just like every other AQ boss. This is the way!

    Tks Mandorlorian
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    This was my first attempt at Map 6 Poco:
    https://youtu.be/8hzAjMgR-mU
    It seems like G99 is a good option, but since he's stun immune, you can't get the combo shields up without heavy countering which chews up your block. So if you get clipped, the fight's over. You're going to time out even if you play perfectly at that point cause vigor is so strong.

    Keep in mind I took this fight with the 30 second poison and 200% attack boost on him so I shouldn't have taken as much damage as I did (not that it would've mattered with that final Sp1 that killed me.)
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 695 ★★★
    He shouldn’t be stun immune vs robots,..by his write up he should be pretty much useless vs ALL robots. He can’t get a genetic code on robots,..should be able to parry him right off the bat and throughout the entirety of the fight with a robot.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Joker1976 said:

    He shouldn’t be stun immune vs robots,..by his write up he should be pretty much useless vs ALL robots. He can’t get a genetic code on robots,..should be able to parry him right off the bat and throughout the entirety of the fight with a robot.

    His abilities state he starts with 1 genetic code. He gains an addition 2 if he's the boss of a quest. That puts him at 3 immediately, regardless of who you use, making him stun immune.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    Etjama said:

    This was my first attempt at Map 6 Poco:
    https://youtu.be/8hzAjMgR-mU
    It seems like G99 is a good option, but since he's stun immune, you can't get the combo shields up without heavy countering which chews up your block. So if you get clipped, the fight's over. You're going to time out even if you play perfectly at that point cause vigor is so strong.

    Keep in mind I took this fight with the 30 second poison and 200% attack boost on him so I shouldn't have taken as much damage as I did (not that it would've mattered with that final Sp1 that killed me.)

    In order to conserve my data, @Etjama was it a solo? Btw, the combo shield from heavy isn't necessary either as apocalypse has fairly clunky animations and is quite easily predictable. Light intercepts is what I usually do in matchups where I can't stun.
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    Kill_Grey said:

    Etjama said:

    This was my first attempt at Map 6 Poco:
    https://youtu.be/8hzAjMgR-mU
    It seems like G99 is a good option, but since he's stun immune, you can't get the combo shields up without heavy countering which chews up your block. So if you get clipped, the fight's over. You're going to time out even if you play perfectly at that point cause vigor is so strong.

    Keep in mind I took this fight with the 30 second poison and 200% attack boost on him so I shouldn't have taken as much damage as I did (not that it would've mattered with that final Sp1 that killed me.)

    In order to conserve my data, @Etjama was it a solo? Btw, the combo shield from heavy isn't necessary either as apocalypse has fairly clunky animations and is quite easily predictable. Light intercepts is what I usually do in matchups where I can't stun.
    Not a solo. Stun Immune is easy to play around, I was only talking about combo shields cause even though I'm getting the Sp1 evade down, I still can, and did mess up on the last beam of an Sp1 which meant I lost my combo and couldn't do enough damage to keep up with Vigor after that. Got him down to about 60%. I know I can get a solo though. I will get a solo. This was only day 2 of even trying to evade his Sp1, so I think I can get it down perfectly every time.
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