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Kingpin is the third best skill champion in the game and it isn’t even close

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    CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Posts: 7,940 ★★★★★
    The_Sentry06 said:


    Pulyaman said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Has anyone used ddhk against void? Rage debuff is still a Debuff right and that would make kingpin a horrible matchup against void right? Or is it a special kind of debuff which does not count towards voids abilities?

    No void degens on rage debuff too.
    It is a fundamental flaw. Skill has class disadvantage over science and skill champs are know for shrugging off debuffs which make them effective against science. Giving skill champs a permanent debuff especially against a champ like void who thrives on debuffs make no sense to me.
    *Skill has class advantage against science

    And ever class has it's exceptions. Sure most champs in a class follow a certain template of charecteristics but every class has certain exceptions with their champions and kit.
    Like Magneto versus most tech champs
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    WorknprogressWorknprogress Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Dragonman is a mystic robot that has abilities more in line with the cosmic class. Things happen. Get over it
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    PulyamanPulyaman Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Worknprogress said:

    Dragonman is a mystic robot that has abilities more in line with the cosmic class. Things happen. Get over it

    Get over it. What a constructive comment. Thank you.
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    SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Posts: 21,805 ★★★★★
    jdeck59 said:

    Idk im still not a fan who people who haven't completed much content making claims about best in the game

    it works because I’m not serious about this
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    WorknprogressWorknprogress Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    jdeck59 said:

    Idk im still not a fan who people who haven't completed much content making claims about best in the game

    That's at least half and probably more of the people always arguing about "best" champs. They're arguing about which champs they don't have are best to complete content they haven't done. It's hilarious
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    PulyamanPulyaman Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Crcrcrc said:

    The_Sentry06 said:


    Pulyaman said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Has anyone used ddhk against void? Rage debuff is still a Debuff right and that would make kingpin a horrible matchup against void right? Or is it a special kind of debuff which does not count towards voids abilities?

    No void degens on rage debuff too.
    It is a fundamental flaw. Skill has class disadvantage over science and skill champs are know for shrugging off debuffs which make them effective against science. Giving skill champs a permanent debuff especially against a champ like void who thrives on debuffs make no sense to me.
    *Skill has class advantage against science

    And ever class has it's exceptions. Sure most champs in a class follow a certain template of charecteristics but every class has certain exceptions with their champions and kit.
    Like Magneto versus most tech champs
    Typing on mobile is not my strong suit. Lol. I understand the exceptions and I think we can all agree that magneto is a special case. But this is the second rework with shrug off abilities that are totally useless against a class that they are supposed to have class advantage over. With the reduced regen rate, things just get worse. I was excited over the buff till I read that change from passive to a Debuff. Other than void, we pretty much don't need to worry about debuff on us. Hopefully his damage will make up for this disadvantage.
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    The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Posts: 7,781 ★★★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    The_Sentry06 said:


    Pulyaman said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    Pulyaman said:

    Has anyone used ddhk against void? Rage debuff is still a Debuff right and that would make kingpin a horrible matchup against void right? Or is it a special kind of debuff which does not count towards voids abilities?

    No void degens on rage debuff too.
    It is a fundamental flaw. Skill has class disadvantage over science and skill champs are know for shrugging off debuffs which make them effective against science. Giving skill champs a permanent debuff especially against a champ like void who thrives on debuffs make no sense to me.
    *Skill has class advantage against science

    And ever class has it's exceptions. Sure most champs in a class follow a certain template of charecteristics but every class has certain exceptions with their champions and kit.
    Like Magneto versus most tech champs
    Typing on mobile is not my strong suit. Lol. I understand the exceptions and I think we can all agree that magneto is a special case. But this is the second rework with shrug off abilities that are totally useless against a class that they are supposed to have class advantage over. With the reduced regen rate, things just get worse. I was excited over the buff till I read that change from passive to a Debuff. Other than void, we pretty much don't need to worry about debuff on us. Hopefully his damage will make up for this disadvantage.
    His damage on paper atleast looks great but we still need to test him first. Hope he is good.
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    Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    Monke said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    On paper he looks better then Elsa. She’s still top 5 though. :|

    Moot4Life said:

    1. nick
    2. aegon
    3. kingpin
    4. stealthy
    5. hitmonkey or falcon

    no room for elsa :D:D:D

    How is she top 5 with Nick Aegon Killmonger Stealthy Falcon Hit Monkey and Night thrasher? I agree with KD she's scratching top 15

    Hit monkey and night trasher aren’t top 5 skill champs. Kingpin won’t be one either. He will be a high damage champ
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    DualityCopeDualityCope Posts: 433 ★★★
    edited February 2021
    Worknprogress said:

    jdeck59 said:

    Idk im still not a fan who people who haven't completed much content making claims about best in the game

    That's at least half and probably more of the people always arguing about "best" champs. They're arguing about which champs they don't have are best to complete content they haven't done. It's hilarious
    Yep forums you can never tell who is credible or not in their opinions. Idk I usually just base it off whether they say something dumb or not.
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    Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Posts: 4,139 ★★★★★
    JoshKosh557 said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Monke said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    On paper he looks better then Elsa. She’s still top 5 though. :|

    Moot4Life said:

    1. nick
    2. aegon
    3. kingpin
    4. stealthy
    5. hitmonkey or falcon

    no room for elsa :D:D:D

    How is she top 5 with Nick Aegon Killmonger Stealthy Falcon Hit Monkey and Night thrasher? I agree with KD she's scratching top 15

    Hit monkey and night trasher aren’t top 5 skill champs. Kingpin won’t be one either. He will be a high damage champ
    NT is a better elsa, what does she do better?
    Shrug off debuffs
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    SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Posts: 21,805 ★★★★★
    Sarvanga1_ said:

    JoshKosh557 said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Monke said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    On paper he looks better then Elsa. She’s still top 5 though. :|

    Moot4Life said:

    1. nick
    2. aegon
    3. kingpin
    4. stealthy
    5. hitmonkey or falcon

    no room for elsa :D:D:D

    How is she top 5 with Nick Aegon Killmonger Stealthy Falcon Hit Monkey and Night thrasher? I agree with KD she's scratching top 15

    Hit monkey and night trasher aren’t top 5 skill champs. Kingpin won’t be one either. He will be a high damage champ
    NT is a better elsa, what does she do better?
    Shrug off debuffs
    eh

    wait why are we talking about Elsa this is a Kingpin post
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    JadedJaded Posts: 5,476 ★★★★★
    SpideyFunko said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    I like how funko is following KD's footsteps in giving comedic takes on champs and buffs even before release. I am highly entertained.

    yeah I mean this post isn’t supposed to be serious I’m just making fun of kd at this point but I guess people don’t understand that 🤷‍♂️
    No one sees it that way. Both annoying spam posts, non stop.
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    SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Posts: 21,805 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    SpideyFunko said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    I like how funko is following KD's footsteps in giving comedic takes on champs and buffs even before release. I am highly entertained.

    yeah I mean this post isn’t supposed to be serious I’m just making fun of kd at this point but I guess people don’t understand that 🤷‍♂️
    No one sees it that way. Both annoying spam posts, non stop.
    I’ve only made one wdym non stop
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    IceBroIceBro Posts: 179 ★★
    Kingpin is really powerful with this new buff... I'd say he's already better than Hit-Monkey, Korg, and Falcon but I'll reserve my thoughts on him being top 3 for a little longer. Everything I said he might be capable of doing actually does happen and then some (like him stacking his Black-ISO debuffs) He has very high potential
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    DannyB01DannyB01 Posts: 471 ★★★
    First impression of Kingpin’s buff: very solid! Haven’t figured how to get the insane damage I thought would be available but that’s probably on me.
    Monke said:

    H3t3r said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    The pfp almost got me.
    While his buff won’t make him better than skill corvus, he will definitely be better than Elsa.

    He'll definitely be
    Monke said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    On paper he looks better then Elsa. She’s still top 5 though. :|

    Moot4Life said:

    1. nick
    2. aegon
    3. kingpin
    4. stealthy
    5. hitmonkey or falcon

    no room for elsa :D:D:D

    How is she top 5 with Nick Aegon Killmonger Stealthy Falcon Hit Monkey and Night thrasher? I agree with KD she's scratching top 15
    She's better or equal to all those champs you listed except falcon she is worse then falcon.
    Elsa is better than Killmonger, stealth, hit monkey, and night thrasher?

    Killmonger explanation hotline: @Rockypantherx
    Hit Monkey explanation hotline: @DannyB01
    Stealthy explanation hotline: @KDSuperFlash10
    Night Thrasher explanation hotline: @TheManMythLegend
    It actually brought me great joy to be included in this! :blush:
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    IceBroIceBro Posts: 179 ★★
    I just finished doing a mutant quest path of Cav EQ and Kingpin absolutely dominated it. He was shrugging debuffs left and right and even when I did have a debuff or two placed on me the Overpower just shrugged them off. I'm going to try and see what his potential is like without the Hood synergy. So far all he really needs is the sinister synergy. An interesting synergy combo with all 3 newly buffed champions is YJ, Mole Man, KP, Sinister, and an open spot for someone else (Magneto maybe?). All but Mole Man benefit from these synergies but Mole Man doesn't need any.
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    Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Posts: 4,139 ★★★★★
    SpideyFunko said:

    Jaded said:

    SpideyFunko said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    I like how funko is following KD's footsteps in giving comedic takes on champs and buffs even before release. I am highly entertained.

    yeah I mean this post isn’t supposed to be serious I’m just making fun of kd at this point but I guess people don’t understand that 🤷‍♂️
    No one sees it that way. Both annoying spam posts, non stop.
    I’ve only made one wdym non stop
    It's 2.
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    ChuckD05ChuckD05 Posts: 173 ★
    Monke said:

    SkyLord7000 said:

    On paper he looks better then Elsa. She’s still top 5 though. :|

    Moot4Life said:

    1. nick
    2. aegon
    3. kingpin
    4. stealthy
    5. hitmonkey or falcon

    no room for elsa :D:D:D

    How is she top 5 with Nick Aegon Killmonger Stealthy Falcon Hit Monkey and Night thrasher? I agree with KD she's scratching top 15
    You don’t have a ranked Elsa i guess
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    BabyMiikeBabyMiike Posts: 1,147 ★★★★
    edited February 2021
    Why are we even mentioning elsa this is about kingpin???
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    Troy_Elric123Troy_Elric123 Posts: 542 ★★★
    edited February 2021
    Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Please r4 him as 6 star when you can sir
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