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Stealthy is Overrated
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It amazes me how some see him as a top 3 skill. Falcon’s utility made his seem so limited. I’ll go in more detail:
1) His block proficiency is only 54%, this is even lower than BWDO’s. Meaning if you can’t intercept proficiently, you’re going to take a lot of block damage.
2) A full combo just to stop an evade? How does that even make sense, super contradictory and useless.
3) Why would I even bring him for evades when Falcon can do it so much more reliably and gains a huge damage boost. I’m not even going to mention Fury, who’s much better for both evades and damage. Not to mention Falcon can do so much more
4) Okay he counters unstoppable, big deal? Id much rather use someone like Beardo who’s far more sustainable and packs a boat load more utility.
5) I can just use another slow champ for unstoppable?
6) He’s not suicide friendly since you’re rotating sp1/sp2 for most of his use.
There you have it, take away his high damage output and all you’ve really got is an unstoppable counter. My stealthy is r2 and never gets use. If you personally ask me, even Sparky has more utility. Taunt, evades projectiles, power drain, stun, shock.
1) His block proficiency is only 54%, this is even lower than BWDO’s. Meaning if you can’t intercept proficiently, you’re going to take a lot of block damage.
2) A full combo just to stop an evade? How does that even make sense, super contradictory and useless.
3) Why would I even bring him for evades when Falcon can do it so much more reliably and gains a huge damage boost. I’m not even going to mention Fury, who’s much better for both evades and damage. Not to mention Falcon can do so much more
4) Okay he counters unstoppable, big deal? Id much rather use someone like Beardo who’s far more sustainable and packs a boat load more utility.
5) I can just use another slow champ for unstoppable?
6) He’s not suicide friendly since you’re rotating sp1/sp2 for most of his use.
There you have it, take away his high damage output and all you’ve really got is an unstoppable counter. My stealthy is r2 and never gets use. If you personally ask me, even Sparky has more utility. Taunt, evades projectiles, power drain, stun, shock.
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Just because another champion has it shouldn't take anything away from the character. I believe Stealthy has the longest slow in the game and people use him mainly to counter unstoppable not evade. Additionally in most fights, using one sp1 and then cycling through sp3 is good enough for damage or you can use a single sp2 for a long slow or something for utility which makes him kinda suicide friendly but I agree that he is a glass canon.
I also agree that he is kinda overrated and is not close to top 3 skill especially with Falcon around.
"He has unstoppable" . He has no access to unstoppable at all, he can COUNTER unstoppable which is great, you also failed to mention cap IW nullify does not work for nullify immune or passive unstoppable like aspect of war where stealthy will work or thing where stealthy will work, but cap won't work. He also has a miss counter which is fantastic for stuff like tunnel vision.
2. Slow is mainly designed to stop unstoppable
3. He’s an above average evade counter, no one thinks he’s the best evade counter
4. He doesn’t have unstoppable...?
5. Yes you can.
6. Actually only need to 1 sp1 and one sp2 to ramp up, the sp2 can be skipped a lot of the time. (I’m summoning @Karatemike415 because he can explain that better than me)
You’re also forgetting that he counters miss and has non contact attacks, both solid pieces of his utility.
2) I see where you're coming with this one, but you can easy get around with this by just (I'll admit slowly) inching your way to the sp2
3)hey he has unstoppable and miss countering as well, plus if you don't have either of the two you can use him
4)you do you, but just because you prefer one champ over the other does not make the other champion bad by any means
5)again, just because you prefer one champ over the other does not make the other champ bad by any means, also miss countering
6) Doom doesn't fare well with suicides but he's still what a lot of people consider to be an all time Top 5 champion
starky can proc his sp3 in tight matchups and the opponent will never evade.... for 18 seconds
My STRONGEST point was the one about him having drastically less utility than Falcon.
You’re not going to use stealthy for evade champs when champs like Quake, Fury, Falcon exist.
Go use stealthy versus mix master korg then use falcon,and come back to this thread.
Like I said , slow champs can handle unstoppable as well. What if the champ has both regen and unstoppable? Well, just bring beardo and throw a tech on the team. Boom, just like that beardos already better for that particular matchup.
With the release of Falcon, Stealthy has been powercrept and is relying just barely on that unstoppable counter to stay in the meta, in which other champs can also handle.
"You're not going to use Stealthy in evade matchups where Quake, Fury, Falcon exist." You gonna pretend like abyss isin't going to exist?
Who uses Stealthy or Falcon for mix masher korg lol both of them are not even close to being a top 5 option for mix masher korg, so why make the comparision.
Again like I said, unstoppable + regen is not a typical matchup, and stealthy will likely outdamage the regen, and stealthy counters unstoppable far better, since Cap IWs counts as a nullify and does not effect passives.
You also continue to forget stealthy has a fantastic miss counter.
1) You only care about block prof if the champ's gameplay is parry-heavy which Stealthy isn't
2) A combo up to 4-5 hit to counter evade in a whole fight, is that really a problem ?
3) Yeah sure, Falcon and Nick better except unstopable say hi and some miss nodes
4) Passive Unstopable: Am i a joke to you ?
5) He's only need a combo to place slow for whole fight and Class disadvantage say hello
6) If you play suicide 1 sp2 and 1sp1 and it's all done, just rotate sp3
Stealthy's utility is much more useful than Starky because he counter miss, evade, unstopable which are super annoy to deal with, Starky has more damage but Stealthy is super easy access to damage which is not so less than Starky
Well yeah I'd use Fury or Falcon over Stealthy for an evade matchup, but Stealthy also has Miss Countering and Unstoppable countering as well so that's that.
Okay, you still haven't realised that if you believe one champ could do another champ's job better they don't automatically suck. Well yeah, if a champ has regen and unstoppable that could be a pickle but Stealthy also has good damage to the point where in some matchups you could outdamage the regen where with Cap you need to pray that you can get 4 successive parries off on the opponent.
And nah, Falcon didn't sweep Stealthy off his place as being a great skill champ in the meta because for one, the Skill class doesn't really have as much competition as other classes and you wouldn't really use Falcon if you need damage in a non-evade matchup.
I've done it only once😂😂 and it was when I was down to my last champion... I pretty much entered ultra instinct😂😂
Also, just because one champions has a similar ability doesn't automatically disqualify the other. Stealthy is much better than Cap for countering unstoppable. Additionally, he also counters miss which still is a pretty rare ability.