Ranking the 2020 champs

Texas_11 · March 2021

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.

You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.

The_Sentry06 · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.

But for now CGR is still a meta champion. Plus he does have SOME utility unlike Domino.

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

Have I seriously woken up to someone comparing Cosmic Ghost Rider to Red Goblin???

Dear God

Texas_11 · March 2021

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him

No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.

Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up

Texas_11 · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up

I’m not gassing him.

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.

You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR

The_Sentry06 · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up

Wouldn't say he is average exactly but yea, not on CGR's level and has many shortcomings.

Texas_11 · March 2021

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.

Bruh why are you calling him Cgr level then

Sent to approval.

He is, just don’t think CGR is all hyped up. I like them both, but too much disrespect on red goblins name.

Texas_11 · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.

You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR

More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.

You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.

Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is

The_Sentry06 · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.

You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is

Ehh you 're making Red Goblin to be some trash champion but he isn't. Neither is Red Goblin on the same tier as CGR.

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

The_Sentry06 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.

You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is
Ehh you 're making Red Goblin to be some trash champion but he isn't. Neither is Red Goblin on the same tier as CGR.

Red Goblin is trash

The_Sentry06 · March 2021

Damn you AOA

Rookiie · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Here's a newsflash for you: CGR has more utility than Red Goblin. Did you know that CGR's damage comes from his utility? Or to put it better, CGR's massive utility contributes to his damage cycle and output.

Let's list his UTILITY out:

1) 8 buffs: Armour Up, Vigilance, Power Gain, Aptitude, Cruelty, Unblockable, Precision, Fury

2) 2 damaging debuffs: Incinerate & Damnation

3) 4 non-damaging debuffs: Power Lock, Heal Block, Fate Seal, Armour Break (can stack up to 17)

4) 2 immunities: Bleed & Incinerate

5) 5 additional bits of utility: Cosmic Penance Stare, SP1 reduces Block Proficiency, SP1 removes Perfect Block Chance, each hit of his SP2 removes 1 Armour Up buff & he has one of the highest Block Proficiency values in the game

That's 21 pieces of UTILITY.

So please don't compare CGR to Domino, he's not going anywhere.

Berjibs · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

ŁŤÇ said:

SpideyFunko said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

SpideyFunko said:
also, Roblin, Sasquatch, and Guardian should be higher.

iHulk, Apocalypse, Mole Man, and Longshot should be lower
Red Goblin is the worst cosmic champion released since Heimdall
Sasquatch is a prime example of all damage and 0 utility
Guardian I can see the argument, defo top 5 where his sig ability works (any energy matchup)

You need to get an Apocalypse because he's OP
The worst since Heimdall? did you forget about VTD? The Champion?
VTD, in my book, is the best champ in game for one part; Incursions. Maybe not questing or alliance-based stuff, but I have gone to room 15 with him plenty of times.
VTD is a D tier cosmic champion in the game, literally 0 utility, RNG based buffs, and 12 seconds buffs at that. Absolutely awful champion.

Not being funny but I was shredding variants with my 4* VTD when you were asking for a “middle difficulty”.

Wooptyfrickendoo · March 2021

1. Apoc
2. Cgr
3. Sorcerer supreme
4. Prof X
5. Guardian
6. Ibom
7. Mole man
8. Dragon man
9. Longshot
10. Spider Ham
11. Tigra
12. Red Guardian
13. Hit Monkey
14. Mojo
15. Sasquatch
16. Terrax
17. Storm pyramid X
18. I hulk
19. Roblin
20. Squirrel Girl
21. Air walker
22. Nova

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

Rookiie said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Here's a newsflash for you: CGR has more utility than Red Goblin. Did you know that CGR's damage comes from his utility? Or to put it better, CGR's massive utility contributes to his damage cycle and output.

Let's list his UTILITY out:

1) 8 buffs: Armour Up, Vigilance, Power Gain, Aptitude, Cruelty, Unblockable, Precision, Fury

2) 2 damaging debuffs: Incinerate & Damnation

3) 4 non-damaging debuffs: Power Lock, Heal Block, Fate Seal, Armour Break (can stack up to 17)

4) 2 immunities: Bleed & Incinerate

5) 5 additional bits of utility: Cosmic Penance Stare, SP1 reduces Block Proficiency, SP1 removes Perfect Block Chance, each hit of his SP2 removes 1 Armour Up buff & he has one of the highest Block Proficiency values in the game

That's 21 pieces of UTILITY.

So please don't compare CGR to Domino, he's not going anywhere.

I find it so funny when people mindlessly say that CGR has no or little utility, while in reality he’s got great utility. His damage is so bonkers that people always overlook his utility.

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

Berjibs said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

ŁŤÇ said:

SpideyFunko said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

SpideyFunko said:
also, Roblin, Sasquatch, and Guardian should be higher.

iHulk, Apocalypse, Mole Man, and Longshot should be lower
Red Goblin is the worst cosmic champion released since Heimdall
Sasquatch is a prime example of all damage and 0 utility
Guardian I can see the argument, defo top 5 where his sig ability works (any energy matchup)

You need to get an Apocalypse because he's OP
The worst since Heimdall? did you forget about VTD? The Champion?
VTD, in my book, is the best champ in game for one part; Incursions. Maybe not questing or alliance-based stuff, but I have gone to room 15 with him plenty of times.
VTD is a D tier cosmic champion in the game, literally 0 utility, RNG based buffs, and 12 seconds buffs at that. Absolutely awful champion.

Not being funny but I was shredding variants with my 4* VTD when you were asking for a “middle difficulty”.

That was an entire year ago

Menkent · March 2021

Wooptyfrickendoo said:
1. Apoc
2. Cgr
3. Sorcerer supreme
4. Prof X
5. Guardian
6. Ibom
7. Mole man
8. Dragon man
9. Longshot
10. Spider Ham
11. Tigra
12. Red Guardian
13. Hit Monkey
14. Mojo
15. Sasquatch
16. Terrax
17. Storm pyramid X
18. I hulk
19. Roblin
20. Squirrel Girl
21. Air walker
22. Nova

I with this except nova should be higher than air walker. He's not great, but he isn't a meme. I'd put him over terrax, too.

Scopeotoe987 · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:
I'll begin by making my list (Will be mostly unbiased and based on my personal experience playing these champions). Feel free to agree/disagree with my list and/or create your own list and others will discuss that with you.

My list:

1. Apocalypse
2. CGR
3. Mole Man
4. Sorcerer Supreme
5. Professor X
6. Tigra
7. Dragon Man
8. Guardian
9. iHulk
10. iBom
11. Terrax
12. Spider-Ham
13. Longshot
14. Mojo
15. Storm X
16. Red Guardian
17. Hit-Monkey
18. Sasquatch
19. Red Goblin
20. BWDO
21. Air-Walker
22. Squirrel Girl
23. Nova

Wheres plat pool?

Shock29 · March 2021

Menkent said:

Wooptyfrickendoo said:
1. Apoc
2. Cgr
3. Sorcerer supreme
4. Prof X
5. Guardian
6. Ibom
7. Mole man
8. Dragon man
9. Longshot
10. Spider Ham
11. Tigra
12. Red Guardian
13. Hit Monkey
14. Mojo
15. Sasquatch
16. Terrax
17. Storm pyramid X
18. I hulk
19. Roblin
20. Squirrel Girl
21. Air walker
22. Nova
I with this except nova should be higher than air walker. He's not great, but he isn't a meme. I'd put him over terrax, too.

You must be playing a different nova because maybe nova is better than air-walker though i don't think so and there is no way that nova is better than terrax right now

Rouger4 · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.

Why did domino stop being a meta champ? Lack of reliable utility as well as consistent and dependable damage.

Texas_11 · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.

You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is

I have both.

Texas_11 · March 2021

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.

No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"

To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.

For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.

Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.

Armor breaks = short

Power drains = weak

incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin

Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost

Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.

You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is

Do you have a red goblin ?

Texas_11 · March 2021

Rouger4 said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Why did domino stop being a meta champ? Lack of reliable utility as well as consistent and dependable damage.

Because the keyword “reliable utility” and damage was no longer as important. Assuming you were using the flaming trinity of course.

CGR will be the next CMM. Red goblin is here to stay because there is not many champs like him.

Texas_11 · March 2021

Rookiie said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

IronGladiator22 said:

Texas_11 said:

Mcdonalds said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
The_Sentry06 said:

Texas_11 said:

Pancake_Face said:
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.

If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.

Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.

Here's a newsflash for you: CGR has more utility than Red Goblin. Did you know that CGR's damage comes from his utility? Or to put it better, CGR's massive utility contributes to his damage cycle and output.

Let's list his UTILITY out:

1) 8 buffs: Armour Up, Vigilance, Power Gain, Aptitude, Cruelty, Unblockable, Precision, Fury

2) 2 damaging debuffs: Incinerate & Damnation

3) 4 non-damaging debuffs: Power Lock, Heal Block, Fate Seal, Armour Break (can stack up to 17)

4) 2 immunities: Bleed & Incinerate

5) 5 additional bits of utility: Cosmic Penance Stare, SP1 reduces Block Proficiency, SP1 removes Perfect Block Chance, each hit of his SP2 removes 1 Armour Up buff & he has one of the highest Block Proficiency values in the game

That's 21 pieces of UTILITY.

So please don't compare CGR to Domino, he's not going anywhere.

1.) That’s basically all cosmic champs

2.) I’ll give you that but what cycle is CGR Using the SP1? I’ll give it you you though.

3.) his damnation buff lasting last 6 seconds, it’s not something you plan in the fight it’s something that happens naturally and you still need to get 5 judgments on to trigger it.

4.) great immunities check.

5.) you are basically just giving the abilities of any champ that is incinerated. He has great BP , but guess who also has the same BP as him?

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