Alright now that I’ve used him...

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  • Scopeotoe987Scopeotoe987 Member Posts: 1,555 ★★★★★
    Miles better than Elsa
  • H3t3rH3t3r Member, Guardian Posts: 2,882 Guardian
    I've used elsa more then stealthy.
  • MrInsanityMrInsanity Member Posts: 1,539 ★★★★
    H3t3r said:

    I've used elsa more then stealthy.

    Wrong than
  • ChaosMax1012ChaosMax1012 Member Posts: 3,113 ★★★★★

    Hoitado said:

    DawsMan said:

    Pratham02 said:

    I was about to take this post seriously until I read zero utility, now I'm just going to assume this is a joke.

    What utility does he have? Just to confirm, not a joke.
    I agree with you that he isn't great, but no utility is hilarious. One prefight is a slow that covers unstoppable, evade, and miss. One increases your critical rating, and another decreases opponent's combat power rate. That is utility.
    What are his top 10 best nodes/champs he counters? I really wanna bring him in for content. His utility is obvious, but is it practical?

    You say Stealthy has ZERO Utility AS YOU HAVE AN ELSA Pfp

    Now we know you’re Definitely trolling
    What? Elsa has more utility then stealthy.

    Elsa’s Utility:

    1. High Crit Rate
    2. Evade Counter
    3. Can create intercepts without intercepting (budget ghost ability)
    4. High amounts of debuffs
    5. Busted Debuffs ignore damage resistance/reduction
    6. Not many champs are immune to her

    Stealthy’s Utility:

    1. High Crit Rate
    2. Unstoppable/Miss/Evade counter (isn’t a great evade counter tho)(lowers his damage)
    3. Has backup evade (not helpful cause he has such low health it’s not worth banking on)(not a great survival ability

    Has just had more... :|
    Since when was high crit rate utility lol. People not being immune to busted/busted doing direct damage isn’t utility, that’s just damage that works against every matchup. “She can create openings without intercepting” just learn to intercept. I’m not even a stealth fan but you forgot his enervate, and Elsa’s debuff shrug which is an extremely odd thing to forget for someone with an r3 elsa, seeing as that’s literally her only real piece of utility beyond a bad evade counter.

    Elsa has one purpose in the game.

    A synergy champ for beast.

    Edit: Just wanted to say that Utility is overrated af. Having “insane utility” doesn’t matter if you have absolutely nothing for damage. (Maw, YJ)
    But, groot OP
  • JadedJaded Member Posts: 5,477 ★★★★★

    H3t3r said:

    I've used elsa more then stealthy.

    Wrong than
    That is not a complete sentence and no structure.
  • MrInsanityMrInsanity Member Posts: 1,539 ★★★★

    Miles better than Elsa

    As much as there is the Elsa debate, Miles really doesn’t bring much to the table. I’d say Spelthy is better than both.
  • KaeJaeKaeJae Member Posts: 5

    DawsMan said:

    Pratham02 said:

    I was about to take this post seriously until I read zero utility, now I'm just going to assume this is a joke.

    What utility does he have? Just to confirm, not a joke.
    I agree with you that he isn't great, but no utility is hilarious. One prefight is a slow that covers unstoppable, evade, and miss. One increases your critical rating, and another decreases opponent's combat power rate. That is utility.
    What are his top 10 best nodes/champs he counters? I really wanna bring him in for content. His utility is obvious, but is it practical?
    He counters Juggernaut/unstoppable colossus' unstoppable, spider-gwen/miles/spider-man/black widow's evade, and even ghost/g99/invisible woman's misses, and this is all with just the web foam
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★

    Are we talking about Mr Fantastic or Elsa? It's hard to tell with how much you are stretching out her abilities

    What abilities am I “stretching out”?
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★
    edited June 2021
    Elsa’s Utility:
    1. Evade Counter
    2. Can create intercepts without intercepting (allows for more windows of opportunity)
    3. Nick-Quake synergy and three life saves/extra damage (has saved me more times then I can count)

    Honorable Mentions:
    1. High amounts of debuffs (for all those science diss track cav nodes)
    2. Busted Debuffs ignore damage resistance/reduction (bleeds dont Ignore reduction)
    3. Non-damaging debuff shrug
    4. High crit-rate
    5. Degens on bleed (only good for defense)

    Stealthy’s Utility:
    2. Unstoppable counter
    3. Miss counter

    Honorable mentions
    1. Evade counter
    2. Has backup evade
    3. Enervate (No-one uses)
    4. High crit-rate
    —————————————————————
    This seems to be the most accurate utility list
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  • MrInsanityMrInsanity Member Posts: 1,539 ★★★★


    Elsa’s Utility:
    4. Nick-Quake synergy and three life saves/extra damage (has saved me more times then I can count)

    1. Bruh this man really put a synergy between 2 completely other champions as actual utility
    2. Of course you would call it the most accurate, it is yours after all
    3. And how come Stealthy's evade counter is an honorable mention but not Elsa... tell me how Elsa has a better evade counter than Stealthy
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★
    edited June 2021

    1. Bruh this man really put a synergy between 2 completely other champions as actual utility
    If you use the synergy for damage it can burst up to 150k within 20 seconds. If ghost had a utility sheet no doubt Hood would be there.

    2. Of course you would call it the most accurate, it is yours after all
    Still Holds True Regardless 😁

    3. And how come Stealthy's evade counter is an honorable mention but not Elsa... tell me how Elsa has a better evade counter than Stealthy
    Let’s say opponent has a 100% chance to evade. Elsa would only have to parry twice and double medium. Stealthy would have to parry hit to an sp2 (keep in mind his low BP), then launch an sp1 to get his counter to work. This means he’s awful for nodes like mix master where he can’t finish a full combo. Elsa is a better evade counter.
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  • MrInsanityMrInsanity Member Posts: 1,539 ★★★★
    Sorry SkyLord7000, I have decided (after careful consideration) you are a lost cause to me if you think Elsa Bloodstone is better than Spider-Man (Stealth Suit) and therefore you are no longer worth my time. Good day! 😁
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★
    Wordunken said:

    But spidey is a niche champ you cant block and there is almost straight up an oppener for him. i know elsa feels better cuz of debufss and lots of different numbers and sexy intercept mechanics while spidey just hits big but give him time. He is a realy good champ

    That’s the problem though, mines r2 and unawakened. So he doesn’t do more damage then Elsa, doesn’t even compete. I don’t wanna rank him solely for damage either. Other champs are way better for it.
  • GoddessIliasGoddessIlias Member Posts: 706 ★★★★

    Sorry SkyLord7000, I have decided (after careful consideration) you are a lost cause to me if you think Elsa Bloodstone is better than Spider-Man (Stealth Suit) and therefore you are no longer worth my time. Good day! 😁

    Is this another CGR2020 account
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★
    Wordunken said:

    For mixmaster you can just parry and lllml combo after a parry and you are good to go with spidey i dont know what you are even talking about with sp2 and sp1 part its just for his rump up

    Huh, insightful given. Still makes him a liability against champs like Spider-Man and the node that pre-dated mix master in the skill Cav EQ
  • GoddessIliasGoddessIlias Member Posts: 706 ★★★★
    Btw, stop disagreeing please. He’s about to break my personal record then I’ll have to come up with something to top him
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★

    Btw, stop disagreeing please. He’s about to break my personal record then I’ll have to come up with something to top him

    Consider it taken 😆

    The price to pay for truth
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★
    Would say stealthy needs a tune up but KM needs it more :/
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★

    Sorry SkyLord7000, I have decided (after careful consideration) you are a lost cause to me if you think Elsa Bloodstone is better than Spider-Man (Stealth Suit) and therefore you are no longer worth my time. Good day! 😁

    It’s sad to see that some people are so dead set on one opinion that they can’t open themselves to see just how wrong they are.
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  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Member Posts: 7,463 ★★★★★

    Nobody is saying Elsa is a bad champ but the premise that Spelthy sucks and Elsa is good is cray cray.
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,000 ★★★★★


    Nobody is saying Elsa is a bad champ but the premise that Spelthy sucks and Elsa is good is cray cray.

    Not saying stealthy’s bad either. Just that he doesn’t have utility and Elsa is better. Honestly surprised how idiotic the forums are sometimes smh. 🤦‍♂️
  • Agent_X_zzzAgent_X_zzz Member Posts: 4,498 ★★★★★
    edited June 2021


    Nobody is saying Elsa is a bad champ but the premise that Spelthy sucks and Elsa is good is cray cray.

    Not saying stealthy’s bad either. Just that he doesn’t have utility and Elsa is better. Honestly surprised how idiotic the forums are sometimes smh. 🤦‍♂️

    U r saying stealthy has no utility and then you proceed to say "honestly surprised how idiotic the forums are sometimes" LOL
  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★


    Nobody is saying Elsa is a bad champ but the premise that Spelthy sucks and Elsa is good is cray cray.

    Not saying stealthy’s bad either. Just that he doesn’t have utility and Elsa is better. Honestly surprised how idiotic the forums are sometimes smh. 🤦‍♂️
    Ah yes we are the idiots, I completely agree and have no problems with this whatsoever.
  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Member Posts: 7,964 ★★★★★
    This has to be a joke. Nobody can be this oblivious
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