For those who say getting R3s + Thronebreaker is rng dependend

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  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★


    it definitely is rng based. i’m sitting on four t5cs just because i don’t have any champs in the class that i want to take up

    it would be foolish to say otherwise. First off, the obtaining of champs is obviously rng based from crystals. secondly, besides the t5c selectors, the obtaining of t5c catalysts is rng based. rng + rng= rng

    See this right here is an example.... "That I dont WANT to take up"... u could have took up someone for the TB benefits and after that decide who else u want to rank , just because the champ is the BEST of BEST , doesnt mean it doesnt deserve a rankup
    i’ve been thronebreaker for awhile 🤡
    Not the point, the point is you(anyone) can take any champ up to r3 and get TB. It's only because people are waiting on a "bgt" option to r3 that people don't. Stop being a clown and understand the point for heaven's sake.
    you just don’t understand that random champs plus random catalysts equals random opportunities to rank up good champs. you keep saying you can rank up garbage champs for thronebreaker but most people would rather rank up champs they like or good champs. nobody wants to take king groot to r3
    One critical thing is that r3 champs are not thst much more powerful than 5 star r5 champs. So, taking up a random champ for the title is not going to affect you in the long term. You could rank up king groot, not the best option, but not worst either. But, long term it won't even matter because the rare at which t5cc is coming in has increased so much especially for TB players, that you will forget that king groot quite quickly.
  • SwarmOfRavensSwarmOfRavens Member Posts: 1,264 ★★★★★
    edited June 2021
    Faseeh said:

    This is false saying its not RNG . i finished act 6 , 7.1 , 7.2 and even explored some cav eq (no t5cc parts nexus back then) and yet im stilll a 29k cosmic at my best. a player can get awesome RNG and form a whole mutant t5cc and rank 3 their mutant like colossus or mags but if a players gets dumped on with RNG , he's not gonna have fun. Abyss is another option but nick,torch,doom all keep evading me

    Have you explored any of the content you've listed or done the bare minimum completion?
    There's literally 33,750 shards of any class of your choice in act 6, 7.1,7.2 so if you're at 29k it means you've not been exploring
  • Wiredawg1Wiredawg1 Member Posts: 504 ★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    ItsDamien said:

    ItsDamien said:

    it definitely is rng based. i’m sitting on four t5cs just because i don’t have any champs in the class that i want to take up

    it would be foolish to say otherwise. First off, the obtaining of champs is obviously rng based from crystals. secondly, besides the t5c selectors, the obtaining of t5c catalysts is rng based. rng + rng= rng

    Key words "I don't have any champs in the class I want to take up"

    So you could be TB and have more content to access, but instead you'll shot yourself in the foot and complain that RNG isn't on your side.
    bruv i have 7 r3s…
    Okay so in a hypothetical situation where you weren't, you wouldn't R3 a champ in a class that was less than ideal to become TB to have more access to materials and quests? That doesn't make it RNG, that makes it stubbornness.
    let’s say you do abyss and obtain a science t5c but don’t have any sciene 6 stars, that’s undoubtedly rng…
    The likelihood of that occurring is so low its unfathomable, unless you're actively trying to speed run your way to TB without doing all the other available content first. There's a progression line in the game that people seem to try and skip past for whatever illogical reason.
    It is not actually low…I had over 50 6s before I got my first science 6*. My wife is in same boat with over 30 6s and no skill 6*. So no it is not low at all
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,616 ★★★★★
    Act 7 content is not difficult to explore, thus far. There are two 25% selectors and three 25% crystals to be had there.

    Act 6 completion, which is necessary for the Thronebreaker title, gets you another 25% selector.

    You can guarantee 75% of whatever class you want from just this content. From here, getting the additional 25% is not difficult. Variants, Monthly EQ, AQ, Monthly side quests, and main Story content all provide more than enough to take RNG out of the equation, without even mentioning Abyss.

    If you are unable to complete this content, Thronebreaker is not geared for you.
  • TrashyPandaTrashyPanda Member Posts: 1,574 ★★★★★
    It's not RNG dependent; it's RNG influenced.

    Whether or not you like that aspect is up to you, the individual, but the level of 'pain' involved in TB acquisition is absolutely influenced by RNG, heavily so.

    I personally think that if a 6r3 is enough of a gate (it's probably not tbh), then having a fully formed T5CC would've done just as well. Forcing people to make a potentially painful choice is bad game design when there's easy alternatives. It should be a universally joyous experience, and there's no reason it shouldn't be.

    TB was a stopgap solution used as a permanent fix. They needed something to separate the deal tiers to slow that avenue of progression (it was needed, though they screwed up the scaling and it cost them), but it was done before the game had proper means to sort tiers of play. All because we didn't (and still don't) have content that even remotely requires 6r3s outside of Alliance stuff.

    Stilts are cool tho

    I don't have a reason to post that,
    I just think Lady Stilt-Man is 🔥
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  • SwarmOfRavensSwarmOfRavens Member Posts: 1,264 ★★★★★
    Wicket329 said:

    Act 7 content is not difficult to explore, thus far. There are two 25% selectors and three 25% crystals to be had there.

    Act 6 completion, which is necessary for the Thronebreaker title, gets you another 25% selector.

    You can guarantee 75% of whatever class you want from just this content. From here, getting the additional 25% is not difficult. Variants, Monthly EQ, AQ, Monthly side quests, and main Story content all provide more than enough to take RNG out of the equation, without even mentioning Abyss.

    If you are unable to complete this content, Thronebreaker is not geared for you.

    There's even selectors on offer from completing 7.1 & 2.
    7.2 offer for 3k units gives 20% selector, I've never been a fan of them but if you're not willing to explore act 6/variants or even enter abyss then you can farm units from arena and get it.
    That's 95% t5cc selector altogether
  • king_ov_scrubsking_ov_scrubs Member Posts: 396 ★★★


    it definitely is rng based. i’m sitting on four t5cs just because i don’t have any champs in the class that i want to take up

    it would be foolish to say otherwise. First off, the obtaining of champs is obviously rng based from crystals. secondly, besides the t5c selectors, the obtaining of t5c catalysts is rng based. rng + rng= rng

    See this right here is an example.... "That I dont WANT to take up"... u could have took up someone for the TB benefits and after that decide who else u want to rank , just because the champ is the BEST of BEST , doesnt mean it doesnt deserve a rankup
    i’ve been thronebreaker for awhile 🤡
    Not the point, the point is you(anyone) can take any champ up to r3 and get TB. It's only because people are waiting on a "bgt" option to r3 that people don't. Stop being a clown and understand the point for heaven's sake.
    you just don’t understand that random champs plus random catalysts equals random opportunities to rank up good champs. you keep saying you can rank up garbage champs for thronebreaker but most people would rather rank up champs they like or good champs. nobody wants to take king groot to r3
    And you don't understand that TB isn't mean for people with a small amount of 6*'s. TB was meant for the endgame type player with large 6* rosters. Everyone is equating the requirement of 1 R3 6* being that they need the 1 6* they need that 1 6* to be one they would take to R3. Or if they form 1 T5CC it should be for a champ they want to rank up.

    People don't realize that before TB was ever a title that OG TB's all dealt with the same type of "problem". If they didn't have a champ to use the T5CC on, they'd wait until they have one. When Kabam released the title early due to the reduction of difficulty in story content, there were many people who got the title right away because they explored all the content, ran high level AQ and everything else it takes to get T5CC.

    The problem currently is that you have so many people doing just the barest of bare minimum to get a T5CC that they blaze through content which they aren't opening as many 6* crystals. They have like 10 or so to chose from where OG TB had 50+ when it was released.

    It's not a RNG thing, its a impatience thing. People need to slow down or rank up any champ for the class they have and live with it.
    if it wasn’t random, there would be no need to be patient
  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,488 Guardian
    edited June 2021


    it definitely is rng based. i’m sitting on four t5cs just because i don’t have any champs in the class that i want to take up

    it would be foolish to say otherwise. First off, the obtaining of champs is obviously rng based from crystals. secondly, besides the t5c selectors, the obtaining of t5c catalysts is rng based. rng + rng= rng

    See this right here is an example.... "That I dont WANT to take up"... u could have took up someone for the TB benefits and after that decide who else u want to rank , just because the champ is the BEST of BEST , doesnt mean it doesnt deserve a rankup
    i’ve been thronebreaker for awhile 🤡
    Not the point, the point is you(anyone) can take any champ up to r3 and get TB. It's only because people are waiting on a "bgt" option to r3 that people don't. Stop being a clown and understand the point for heaven's sake.
    you just don’t understand that random champs plus random catalysts equals random opportunities to rank up good champs. you keep saying you can rank up garbage champs for thronebreaker but most people would rather rank up champs they like or good champs. nobody wants to take king groot to r3
    I 100% would love to take a King Groot to r3. He may not be the biggest power house or crit master, but he has some nice utility and with that ibom and manthing synergy, makes me a happy camper
  • SwarmOfRavensSwarmOfRavens Member Posts: 1,264 ★★★★★
    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    This is false saying its not RNG . i finished act 6 , 7.1 , 7.2 and even explored some cav eq (no t5cc parts nexus back then) and yet im stilll a 29k cosmic at my best. a player can get awesome RNG and form a whole mutant t5cc and rank 3 their mutant like colossus or mags but if a players gets dumped on with RNG , he's not gonna have fun. Abyss is another option but nick,torch,doom all keep evading me

    Have you explored any of the content you've listed or done the bare minimum completion?
    There's literally 33,750 shards of any class of your choice in act 6, 7.1,7.2 so if you're at 29k it means you've not been exploring
    i dont have the roster for every path but i've started exploration . As i said i am missing on quite a few of the obvious choices for the paths
    7.1 & 2 are hardly roster dependant, if you've not explored content yet why would you expect to be thronebreaker?
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  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★
    If you are sitting on a t5cc and not tb, it is not rng's fault. If you aren't tb, you just gotta explore 7.1 7.1, the variants, and move on.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,712 ★★★★★


    it definitely is rng based. i’m sitting on four t5cs just because i don’t have any champs in the class that i want to take up

    it would be foolish to say otherwise. First off, the obtaining of champs is obviously rng based from crystals. secondly, besides the t5c selectors, the obtaining of t5c catalysts is rng based. rng + rng= rng

    See this right here is an example.... "That I dont WANT to take up"... u could have took up someone for the TB benefits and after that decide who else u want to rank , just because the champ is the BEST of BEST , doesnt mean it doesnt deserve a rankup
    i’ve been thronebreaker for awhile 🤡
    Not the point, the point is you(anyone) can take any champ up to r3 and get TB. It's only because people are waiting on a "bgt" option to r3 that people don't. Stop being a clown and understand the point for heaven's sake.
    you just don’t understand that random champs plus random catalysts equals random opportunities to rank up good champs. you keep saying you can rank up garbage champs for thronebreaker but most people would rather rank up champs they like or good champs. nobody wants to take king groot to r3
    And you don't understand that TB isn't mean for people with a small amount of 6*'s. TB was meant for the endgame type player with large 6* rosters. Everyone is equating the requirement of 1 R3 6* being that they need the 1 6* they need that 1 6* to be one they would take to R3. Or if they form 1 T5CC it should be for a champ they want to rank up.

    People don't realize that before TB was ever a title that OG TB's all dealt with the same type of "problem". If they didn't have a champ to use the T5CC on, they'd wait until they have one. When Kabam released the title early due to the reduction of difficulty in story content, there were many people who got the title right away because they explored all the content, ran high level AQ and everything else it takes to get T5CC.

    The problem currently is that you have so many people doing just the barest of bare minimum to get a T5CC that they blaze through content which they aren't opening as many 6* crystals. They have like 10 or so to chose from where OG TB had 50+ when it was released.

    It's not a RNG thing, its a impatience thing. People need to slow down or rank up any champ for the class they have and live with it.
    if it wasn’t random, there would be no need to be patient
    No, not at all. The people who don't have the patience are the ones with 5 6*'s and a T5CC formed, who did one run through act 6, don't have act 5 explored, 7.1 or 7.2 1 run through or maybe easy path of abyss. They aren't doing all the content that you can get more 6* shards from or more T5CC. They aren't running Map 7 to get the weekly 10% or anything of that sort. You overcome any aspect of "RNG" by increasing your opportunities.

    Again, the title wasn't meant for someone to have 1 6* R3. It was meant for big 6* roster types with most if not all content done. Early Cav's have turned it into this misconception that just having a T5CC means I should have a champ to R3 and whatever else ridiculous excuses they come up with. I wish Kabam would increase the requirements to end these silly threads honestly.
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  • GoddessIliasGoddessIlias Member Posts: 706 ★★★★


    it definitely is rng based. i’m sitting on four t5cs just because i don’t have any champs in the class that i want to take up

    it would be foolish to say otherwise. First off, the obtaining of champs is obviously rng based from crystals. secondly, besides the t5c selectors, the obtaining of t5c catalysts is rng based. rng + rng= rng

    See this right here is an example.... "That I dont WANT to take up"... u could have took up someone for the TB benefits and after that decide who else u want to rank , just because the champ is the BEST of BEST , doesnt mean it doesnt deserve a rankup
    i’ve been thronebreaker for awhile 🤡
    Not the point, the point is you(anyone) can take any champ up to r3 and get TB. It's only because people are waiting on a "bgt" option to r3 that people don't. Stop being a clown and understand the point for heaven's sake.
    you just don’t understand that random champs plus random catalysts equals random opportunities to rank up good champs. you keep saying you can rank up garbage champs for thronebreaker but most people would rather rank up champs they like or good champs. nobody wants to take king groot to r3
    And you don't understand that TB isn't mean for people with a small amount of 6*'s. TB was meant for the endgame type player with large 6* rosters. Everyone is equating the requirement of 1 R3 6* being that they need the 1 6* they need that 1 6* to be one they would take to R3. Or if they form 1 T5CC it should be for a champ they want to rank up.

    People don't realize that before TB was ever a title that OG TB's all dealt with the same type of "problem". If they didn't have a champ to use the T5CC on, they'd wait until they have one. When Kabam released the title early due to the reduction of difficulty in story content, there were many people who got the title right away because they explored all the content, ran high level AQ and everything else it takes to get T5CC.

    The problem currently is that you have so many people doing just the barest of bare minimum to get a T5CC that they blaze through content which they aren't opening as many 6* crystals. They have like 10 or so to chose from where OG TB had 50+ when it was released.

    It's not a RNG thing, its a impatience thing. People need to slow down or rank up any champ for the class they have and live with it.
    if it wasn’t random, there would be no need to be patient
    No, not at all. The people who don't have the patience are the ones with 5 6*'s and a T5CC formed, who did one run through act 6, don't have act 5 explored, 7.1 or 7.2 1 run through or maybe easy path of abyss. They aren't doing all the content that you can get more 6* shards from or more T5CC. They aren't running Map 7 to get the weekly 10% or anything of that sort. You overcome any aspect of "RNG" by increasing your opportunities.

    Again, the title wasn't meant for someone to have 1 6* R3. It was meant for big 6* roster types with most if not all content done. Early Cav's have turned it into this misconception that just having a T5CC means I should have a champ to R3 and whatever else ridiculous excuses they come up with. I wish Kabam would increase the requirements to end these silly threads honestly.
    The requirements should have been 100% abyss and act 6. This would have put it “out of reach” enough and discourage people from making rankups that they may (or may not) regret later
  • king_ov_scrubsking_ov_scrubs Member Posts: 396 ★★★


    it definitely is rng based. i’m sitting on four t5cs just because i don’t have any champs in the class that i want to take up

    it would be foolish to say otherwise. First off, the obtaining of champs is obviously rng based from crystals. secondly, besides the t5c selectors, the obtaining of t5c catalysts is rng based. rng + rng= rng

    See this right here is an example.... "That I dont WANT to take up"... u could have took up someone for the TB benefits and after that decide who else u want to rank , just because the champ is the BEST of BEST , doesnt mean it doesnt deserve a rankup
    i’ve been thronebreaker for awhile 🤡
    Not the point, the point is you(anyone) can take any champ up to r3 and get TB. It's only because people are waiting on a "bgt" option to r3 that people don't. Stop being a clown and understand the point for heaven's sake.
    you just don’t understand that random champs plus random catalysts equals random opportunities to rank up good champs. you keep saying you can rank up garbage champs for thronebreaker but most people would rather rank up champs they like or good champs. nobody wants to take king groot to r3
    And you don't understand that TB isn't mean for people with a small amount of 6*'s. TB was meant for the endgame type player with large 6* rosters. Everyone is equating the requirement of 1 R3 6* being that they need the 1 6* they need that 1 6* to be one they would take to R3. Or if they form 1 T5CC it should be for a champ they want to rank up.

    People don't realize that before TB was ever a title that OG TB's all dealt with the same type of "problem". If they didn't have a champ to use the T5CC on, they'd wait until they have one. When Kabam released the title early due to the reduction of difficulty in story content, there were many people who got the title right away because they explored all the content, ran high level AQ and everything else it takes to get T5CC.

    The problem currently is that you have so many people doing just the barest of bare minimum to get a T5CC that they blaze through content which they aren't opening as many 6* crystals. They have like 10 or so to chose from where OG TB had 50+ when it was released.

    It's not a RNG thing, its a impatience thing. People need to slow down or rank up any champ for the class they have and live with it.
    if it wasn’t random, there would be no need to be patient
    No, not at all. The people who don't have the patience are the ones with 5 6*'s and a T5CC formed, who did one run through act 6, don't have act 5 explored, 7.1 or 7.2 1 run through or maybe easy path of abyss. They aren't doing all the content that you can get more 6* shards from or more T5CC. They aren't running Map 7 to get the weekly 10% or anything of that sort. You overcome any aspect of "RNG" by increasing your opportunities.

    Again, the title wasn't meant for someone to have 1 6* R3. It was meant for big 6* roster types with most if not all content done. Early Cav's have turned it into this misconception that just having a T5CC means I should have a champ to R3 and whatever else ridiculous excuses they come up with. I wish Kabam would increase the requirements to end these silly threads honestly.
    increasing quantity does not negate RNG. i could open 100 2% t5c crystals and get no mutant. although it’s unlikely, i’m guaranteed nothing
  • SwarmOfRavensSwarmOfRavens Member Posts: 1,264 ★★★★★
    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    Faseeh said:

    This is false saying its not RNG . i finished act 6 , 7.1 , 7.2 and even explored some cav eq (no t5cc parts nexus back then) and yet im stilll a 29k cosmic at my best. a player can get awesome RNG and form a whole mutant t5cc and rank 3 their mutant like colossus or mags but if a players gets dumped on with RNG , he's not gonna have fun. Abyss is another option but nick,torch,doom all keep evading me

    Have you explored any of the content you've listed or done the bare minimum completion?
    There's literally 33,750 shards of any class of your choice in act 6, 7.1,7.2 so if you're at 29k it means you've not been exploring
    i dont have the roster for every path but i've started exploration . As i said i am missing on quite a few of the obvious choices for the paths
    7.1 & 2 are hardly roster dependant, if you've not explored content yet why would you expect to be thronebreaker?
    It says "completed act 6 and r3 champion" . i expected completing act 7.2 would at least get me enough t5cc to become thronebreaker
    Completing act 6 was never enough to r3 a champ, not even when TB was first introduced.
    It was pretty much abyss completion or act 6 exploration to even form a t5cc.
    Now you need neither, you could literally explore act 7 pick up selectors and be done with it.
    Expecting to form a t5cc from just completing is why you think it's RNG dependant
  • Mrspider568Mrspider568 Member Posts: 2,007 ★★★
    I want to see the damage of the soon to be rank 3 star lord at 400 combo
  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★

    I want to see the damage of the soon to be rank 3 star lord at 400 combo

    Watch swedeah hit 400 combo with a five star and then multiply that damage by 1.3 and thats pretty well what a 6 r3 will be doing.
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,804 ★★★★★
    Kerneas said:

    It is RNG to certain extent.

    RANDOM 10% side eq
    RANDOM 3 in 10% nexus
    RANDOM 25% for 7.1&2 completion
    RANDOM 25% for V 5-7 explo

    However:
    guaranteed full from Abyss
    25% Act 6 completion nexus
    Act 6 exploration guarantee
    Theres's some nexus in 7.1&2 explo too

    So imo it is fairly random if you want low effort. If you are willing to spend/try hard, you get guaranteed rewards. The way it should be imho.

    This.
  • GoddessIliasGoddessIlias Member Posts: 706 ★★★★

    it definitely is rng based. i’m sitting on four t5cs just because i don’t have any champs in the class that i want to take up

    it would be foolish to say otherwise. First off, the obtaining of champs is obviously rng based from crystals. secondly, besides the t5c selectors, the obtaining of t5c catalysts is rng based. rng + rng= rng

    Also idk why people are hating on this so much, it’s a very real thing having catalysts and not wanting to rank anyone. I have 9 R3s and this is my T5 situation:



    Legitimately considering og abom or red skull 😭
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