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Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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The DW was Suicides was to show that some champs require some masteries more than others. Not that one is better or cost more or whatever. Some champs are worse with Suicides also while DW doesn't really hurt any champ even if it's more limited so it's a trade off anyway. I'm just saying the change to his bleeds is good for people who use DW. His damage was fine but nothing to crazy so and increase is nice. Damage wise Angela was fine but I didn't say no to a buff and Angela to me is Ronin to you (yes I know she get a way more detailed and better buff I was only talking about her damage).
There are so many buffs done that no one asked for with some of the changes. Angela can no do alot she couldn't before which is great, no one asked for a Massacre buff also but it's great that we got it. You gotta remember that you aren't the only Ronin player which is how this thread comes off. As a Ronin player myself I like these changes BUT I agree they could have done more and gave him more utility also I'm just saying this buff isn't as bad as people say it is.
You're doing exactly what I said most people are, disregarding how good that reliable Evade will be for him and how much of a big change it is. This is one point I'll hard disagree with you on cuz that evade will make him a much better champ overall.
Vs Bleed immune getting charges won't be as fast as before but it'll still be faster than none bleed immune and don't pretend otherwise. Again, I wish they left it as is but the fact that he would have had almost 100% uptime on the evade vs bleed immune is something I can understand.
All in all I'd say we should wait to see how he is AFTER we can play him before jumping out our skin. Same goes for me also. He could be basically the same for all I know but I see it differently than most of the thread is all.
Vulture, Massacre, OML, Pinisher 2099, War Machine, etc are all buffs a ton of players just looked straight past and didn't care much for the champs even tho they are much better after. Remember, the fourms or reddit is NOT a good enough sample size of the overall player base and the Antman vs Guillitone buff is one way that show's exactly that. Antman won by a large margin on the forums but got blown out when players actually in game voted.
This thread is a hate boner for the Ronin buff when all I'm saying is wait and see first before we go crazy. I don't think they Noved or Mawed Ronin with this buff and we will see in a few days.
Nerf? The only thing nerfed was his cruelty gain vs Bleed immune and it was changed to work with his sig evade instead which I wish they didn't change. His damage was fine but more is nice so why do you keep bringing that up?
His advantage vs bleed immune is just gonna be slower but the same. Bruh you're being actually unreasonable and being a Ronin expert you have this whole thread going crazy and it's silly.
You've never used the evade on purpose and neither have I but guess what, now it's an option. How can you call that a nerf? Now it's viable to use if something tricky needs evading and that's pretty great for him and can give him a very safe option to intercept when the AI isn't playing into him.
The main reason people don't even know about Ronin is because he's to complicated and his playstyle is risky, at least this buff takes away alot of that risk.
I never said he'll be the same, I keep saying I think he'll be better.
If the buff is next week then you'll be on this thread for a whole week hating more and more and getting yourself and everyone upset for a whole week. I bash Kabam way more than you and most people on this thread and think they are WAY worse than EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc etc but this is not one of the issues I'd say is worth all this anger.
My only complaint is I now want the awaken and my 6 star is unawakened, when before I didn’t care he wasn’t lol.
Like you literally can't see reason cuz you're acting like a child who didn't get what they wanted.
Pros about the buff:
Better sig evade that's actually usable and reliable (this is sadly not being considered by you and others at how good it's gonna be)
Stronger bleeds (with deep wounds)
More intercepting crit chance
Longer passive precision
Stronger and Longer Ability Acc from SP1
Sp2 paired with DW now will do MUCH more damage and more so with the SP3 fury
SP3 now gives damage with a max of 4,927.52 instead of 3,790.4
His sig fury last 12 seconds and not 7 now
Cons:
Now has a cooldown vs bleed immune champs
All that and you're the so called "Ronin expert" who's been calling this a nerf? You're the "expert" who's been telling people you know best so they are wrong?
I get the feeling you got SUPER excited when he was announced as a buff candidate and your mind went crazy with "what if's" all over the place and what he could get, could do, what buff, etc etc then when you saw what they did you didn't like it and threw a fit. That's what this thread seems like, like a child who didn't get EXACTLY what they wanted so they are upset.
Players don't seem to realize how much better we ALL play when we're not worried and stressed about messing up and being combed to death. With this change it makes a smooth champ even more silky to play.
But Mr. Expert sir, I thought you didn't use his evade and when it happened you were upset so why is it an issue either way?
Plus you really gonna jump to complain about a difference of 70.26 potency when the increased time will MORE THAN make up for that 70 difference? They should have straight up increased it I agree but it's better now no matter how you look at it. An extra +5 seconds -70 damage is better than +70 and -5 seconds. You telling me you can't do more attacks with that extra 5 seconds?
You're just chomping at the bits for your message to come out huh? Can't wait to prove me wrong huh? Good luck with that. You're really just fueling this hate thread more and more. Well done.
About here is where you wrote players off. You know, the whole "people who don't use Ronin" thing. Where you assume that players who disagree with you don't use him and clearly are wrong.
The reduced fury on evade is made up for by the longer duration and more frequent use of this ability, the ability can now be used more aggressively which is way better.
The whole “nerf” on bleed immune just makes it so u still want to play the same backdraft style vs all opponents, imo this isn’t an issue he will still get to 7 cruelty fast.
The ability to get to 100% ability acc now is quite good in many situations which is a fantastic piece of utility however Kabam do trash things like add nodes that go "this champion has 100% increased ability acc" like what's the point to make champs get ability acc when you're just gonna make that useless all over the game? Same with nodes that just ignore agility acc reductions.
The other MAJOR part that I've been screaming about is he now can stay at a full yellow bar all fight due to being EXTRA safe due to that useable and reliable Evade he will now have. Like bro, having a champ with an evade that YOU control is I would say quite useful yeah?
It’s easier to use a plethora of other champs that can do 100% AAR and require less upkeep. Yes, nobody is going to automatically do 100% just by being there but this seems daunting to keep the aggressive risky play style up the entire fight.
I wish the numbers were reversed and he had 60% wraith stance and 40% sp1 or something like that.
As for his evade and staying at a full yellow bar, he can already do that. Easily. Without the evade. And he already has an evade. Not to mention the evade kills his rampup. No one is gonna really try to use it if they dont really have to. I and most ronin players i know just get a little pissed off when the evade triggers because your rampup dies. With my 6* r3 before he was duped, if i did get hit on my backdraft, then the hits wouldnt kill me. And then adrenaline. And i was fine the rest of the quest. The only thing that i like the evade for is AW because those pots are so costly.
But the main thing i used Ronin for was hard in AW was thing… And that works less well now.
I definitely dont think this was a nerf. But i dont think it was a very good buff either. There is NO scenario where a buff should remove a utility. I though kabam learned that with Hood. If he still had no cooldown, I would be much less annoyed.