I have r3 Doom and now a r2 Diablo, both awakened. They are both great.
But when I switch on ouchie boo-boo masteries, I would choose Diablo, no question. When not running them, I would choose Doom unless there was a need for poison immunity or if there was a need to dish out poison.
Don't forget that Diablo gives Doom a great synergy.
lool damage may be comparable but diablo doesn't have the buff control, power control like doom. When doom reaches sp3 it's game over for most fights.
Diablo cannot power control, but he has a nullification prefight that works great with mystic dispersion to give him a lot of power. Drop an sp3 for huge poison damage and Diablo can swiftly get back to an sp2 to refresh those poisons by nullifying the detonation buffs he places on the defender from the sp3.
I think the last two years of Diablo being Diablow has just hardened people's opinion of him as a trash champ. Aside from Magento, I cannot think of a buff that has made as big an improvement in a champ. He's really fun.
I have r3 Doom and now a r2 Diablo, both awakened. They are both great.
But when I switch on ouchie boo-boo masteries, I would choose Diablo, no question. When not running them, I would choose Doom unless there was a need for poison immunity or if there was a need to dish out poison.
Don't forget that Diablo gives Doom a great synergy.
“Ouchie boo-boo masteries” is a phrase that instantly negates anything that could garner respect to you
I have r3 Doom and now a r2 Diablo, both awakened. They are both great.
But when I switch on ouchie boo-boo masteries, I would choose Diablo, no question. When not running them, I would choose Doom unless there was a need for poison immunity or if there was a need to dish out poison.
Don't forget that Diablo gives Doom a great synergy.
“Ouchie boo-boo masteries” is a phrase that instantly negates anything that could garner respect to you
I am happy -- very very very happy -- to disappoint you.
Well WS seems bench mark for people to decide which champ is better. But isn't the case. Only damage can be showed without worrying about sp3. Hope OP understand this point. Diablo can't be even close to doom when we talk about AW and act 7 stuff. AI, Attack rating, block damage, power gains etc stuff just eliminate most of the mystic champs on first hand. Diablo is Awesome. His buff made him better. But no way he can compete with top champs in high end contents.
Okay, let's first get it clear that damage alone doesn't make a champion better than another.
Let us state stuff about both champions. Diablo: Nice Poison damage, sustainability, not bad nullify, stun and armor break immunity.
Dr Doom: Armor break, shatter, shock immunity, highest armor, crit, block penetration and attack rating in the game ( base stats), excellent power control, easy to access buff control option ( stagger from heavies), huge damage from SP2 ( not to forget the incinerates), massive attack boosting furies from SP3, and the resist against the last hit's of opponents special's and heavies.
It's not always just about ending with 100% my friend. And as mentioned earlier, if that was the case, Wolverine should had been the best in the game, right?
Okay, let's first get it clear that damage alone doesn't make a champion better than another.
Let us state stuff about both champions. Diablo: Nice Poison damage, sustainability, not bad nullify, stun and armor break immunity.
Dr Doom: Armor break, shatter, shock immunity, highest armor, crit, block penetration and attack rating in the game ( base stats), excellent power control, easy to access buff control option ( stagger from heavies), huge damage from SP2 ( not to forget the incinerates), massive attack boosting furies from SP3, and the resist against the last hit's of opponents special's and heavies.
It's not always just about ending with 100% my friend. And as mentioned earlier, if that was the case, Wolverine should had been the best in the game, right?
Diablo also has 100% poison resistance, access to passives making him useful for the odd tenacity/debuff immune node and access to energy damage. Plus, you are kinda padding out Doom's damage, could have just said that Doom has great damage like you did with Diablo.
But yea, Doom's better than Diablo as of now without suicides and it isn't a contest. And having nice regen doesn't make a champ better.
I am sorry but you are indeed wrong. Kabam designed Doom to be the best champion. He isn't unique like Ghost and Quake, but the devs decided that Doom must be the best at all costs. That's why he has insanely high base stats, has sustain, block pen, immunities, power control, DoT, base damage, resist mastery built-in, passive stun and many many more. He IS the best because he is created with that in mind. No champ will ever hold more sheer stat power than Doom. Because that is the magic part: Doom is best, but not as op that he would require nerfing
Even at this stage it would be IMPOSSIBLE to say diablo was definetley better than doom, even if he was, because the buffs been live less than a week. Doom has been so valuable and cleared so much content that it would take more than a week for me personally for this buff to overthrow him until we see how diablo is used in newer content. I have been debating taking diablo to r3 but i always give these things a few weeks for the excitement to settle and see the actual practical uses before i pull the trigger
Actually, even the old Diablo had comparable damage to Doom for 1 fight. His problem was the stupid persistent charge mechanic. He does not come close to Doom in terms of utility.
He has great damage, provided the defender can be poisoned, and he has good utility, but not better than Doom's. Even having better survivability is questionable, as there's a lot of stuff that shuts down regen.
I'd say he's better than Doom if you run suicides, but I'd rather have Claire. Diablo is just nice for those of us who have like 5 missing Mystics, which sadly include Doom and Claire.
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New Diablo is super cool - and super sustainable.
If you run suicides with Doom, you're definitely going to lose some health.
Just because Diablo finishes the fight with more health while running suicides doesn't mean that he's a "better" champion than Doom.
Neither can stake a Vampire with their shoes though so Elsa better than both.
Diablo is Awesome. His buff made him better. But no way he can compete with top champs in high end contents.
Let us state stuff about both champions.
Diablo: Nice Poison damage, sustainability, not bad nullify, stun and armor break immunity.
Dr Doom: Armor break, shatter, shock immunity, highest armor, crit, block penetration and attack rating in the game ( base stats), excellent power control, easy to access buff control option ( stagger from heavies), huge damage from SP2 ( not to forget the incinerates), massive attack boosting furies from SP3, and the resist against the last hit's of opponents special's and heavies.
It's not always just about ending with 100% my friend. And as mentioned earlier, if that was the case, Wolverine should had been the best in the game, right?
But yea, Doom's better than Diablo as of now without suicides and it isn't a contest. And having nice regen doesn't make a champ better.
More power to you!
This is the video Dork Lessons made comparing those two.
He has great damage, provided the defender can be poisoned, and he has good utility, but not better than Doom's. Even having better survivability is questionable, as there's a lot of stuff that shuts down regen.
I'd say he's better than Doom if you run suicides, but I'd rather have Claire. Diablo is just nice for those of us who have like 5 missing Mystics, which sadly include Doom and Claire.