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Are Ghost and Quake still worth ranking ?
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Don't get me wrong, Ghost and Quake are wonderful champions, able to do a lot of content.
BUT, as more and more content arrive, nearly all boss or even complete line happen to have the "True Focus" node preventing any use of those champions.
Boss island in AW, all champions now have the True Focus node
Summer of pain too.
it's not that we can't use Ghost or Quake but they loose all the beneficial affects of their kit. no more miss, no more evade, no more power gain while in phase. (the same goes with the invisible woman, Guillotine 2099 etc...)
A lot of people took time and resources to rank up those champions, just to find them less valuable to use with the new contents.
I understand that these champions tend to make a lot of hard content easier and perhaps a bit less challenging, but in the end all these anti-ghost-Quake node are making those champions less valuable and we can wonder if Ghost 6 stars will still be worthy of rank 4 and 5 when those ranks will be available.
What are your thoughts about that ?
BUT, as more and more content arrive, nearly all boss or even complete line happen to have the "True Focus" node preventing any use of those champions.
Boss island in AW, all champions now have the True Focus node
Summer of pain too.
it's not that we can't use Ghost or Quake but they loose all the beneficial affects of their kit. no more miss, no more evade, no more power gain while in phase. (the same goes with the invisible woman, Guillotine 2099 etc...)
A lot of people took time and resources to rank up those champions, just to find them less valuable to use with the new contents.
I understand that these champions tend to make a lot of hard content easier and perhaps a bit less challenging, but in the end all these anti-ghost-Quake node are making those champions less valuable and we can wonder if Ghost 6 stars will still be worthy of rank 4 and 5 when those ranks will be available.
What are your thoughts about that ?
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why did you deliberately and willingly design and develop Ghost and Quake just to stop people from using them?
I think kabam wants to make the game more balanced so that other champs also gets some showtime.
Against ghost, how about a node where crits don't do damage? Or only the 4th or 5th hits of a combo yield dmg? Or only dot does dmg? Or something like this?
Against quake, something like passive pg plus brute force can make things difficult.
The best solution in my opinion would have been to introduce defenders who natively counter ghost or quake, whether this is through the 3 buffs or 2 new champs a month. Having more native counters would address the specific issue with less unintended side effects. It would also make more champs in the overall pool have some kind of use in the meta. Additionally quake and ghost can still have a place in the game without being too op.
Very slowly.. this true focus or whatever is called has been thrown around this past month.
I'm sure you'll see it a lot in 7.3 etc
- No unintended/unwanted side effects against other champs
- enables Quake and Ghost to still have a place in the meta without being OP. Therefore no need to go through the mess of rankdowns or deleting champs out of the game, etc.
Simply put: a combination of creative nodes, native counters embedded in the KIT of various champs, and other solutions should not be too difficult to find to address this problem.
To not have nerf in Ghost and Quake, Kabam has to put us to stop or simply they will break the game to the point of no longer having the game, because the two do almost everything.
What isn't fine is using True Focus as a means to counter them. They could literally make a node that counters 'problem champions' and I wouldn't bat an eye as a frequent user of said champs.
It'd be like The Champion's "Champion of the Universe" ability, except in node form and more potent.
It is just like the Cavalier EQ node designs - Instead of just blocking Willpower from healing your champions from all the node debuffs, let's just block healing wholesale, which will also prevent champions that have healing in their kit.
Some nuance would be preferable, but who knows how easy it is to program.
^^^^^
I think both Ghost and Quake are probably worth ranking up still. Even if they aren't boss killers, they can probably clear many lanes alright. I doubt Kabam's going to put True Focus at every fight.
Plus, while most SOP bosses have neutered Ghost and Quake, couldn't at least parts of the Grandmaster's Gauntlet be (relatively) easily Quaked? It seems like there is still room for them in the top fights, even if they hopefully won't be the best option for every fight.
She can still shrug off debuffs and the crits still counter evade.
I go a Solo vs Emma.
You lose the powergain which sucks that is true.
But at this point would I would still rate them best and 2nd best champs in the game
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/275852/how-to-work-around-true-sense-with-ghost#latest