@ BitterSteel do you work for kabam or fix the bugs? If you don’t how do you know what’s true and what’s not? Or just guessing. I sure as hell don’t know but your guessing just like everyone else.
If you knew how the process worked with fixing a bug, you'd never have said "just fix the game". Something that is bugged at the core of the game, like the game engine, isn't easy to fix. It's connected to everything.
It's possible that's it's really not even a true bug but just how the performance of the game engine works and we're not used to it. On top of being a core process, you have 100's of different devices spec'd out in different ways that you have to program the game to work with. None of this is easy. It's completely unfair for you to say someone should be fired when you don't even have clue in how to do thier job. You don't even understand the basics.
So a week ago it's just me who had enough courage to say that the game was fine and now more people stand up against the gang who blame everything on Kabam even after their own mistakes and hoping for free stuffs. That's right people. That's enough. That's enough parry and dex bs and enough compensation begging.
How droll. Can you not come up with a new schtick yet?
@BitterSteel do you work for kabam or fix the bugs? If you don’t how do you know what’s true and what’s not? Or just guessing. I sure as hell don’t know but your guessing just like everyone else.
"The assumption you've made is that this is somehow an easy thing to identify or fix. Neither of those things is true." "In this case, we believe it may have something to do with our Game Engine update, but can't say that for sure yet. That is something that touches literally every aspect of the game, so identifying what that could be is not something that can be done very quickly." Kabam Miike https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1851054#Comment_1851054
I mean, if you call reading what Kabam say and basing an opinion off the facts they give, sure, I'm guessing.
@ BitterSteel do you work for kabam or fix the bugs? If you don’t how do you know what’s true and what’s not? Or just guessing. I sure as hell don’t know but your guessing just like everyone else.
If you knew how the process worked with fixing a bug, you'd never have said "just fix the game". Something that is bugged at the core of the game, like the game engine, isn't easy to fix. It's connected to everything.
It's possible that's it's really not even a true bug but just how the performance of the game engine works and we're not used to it. On top of being a core process, you have 100's of different devices spec'd out in different ways that you have to program the game to work with. None of this is easy. It's completely unfair for you to say someone should be fired when you don't even have clue in how to do thier job. You don't even understand the basics.
I once heard bill Clinton say he did not have sexual relations with that women to, what people tell you and what actually happens are 3 different things. Your truth Their truth And the real truth. I may not be a gamer geek at repairing but months to fix is a long long time to me and obviously a lot of others.
@BitterSteel I don’t know maybe and maybe not as your not sure either none of us are who don’t work for them.
Ok but you’re the only one here spreading conspiracy theories that Kabam actually aren’t upgrading their game engine, and that it’s not actually a hard bug to fix.
I once heard bill Clinton say he did not have sexual relations with that woman to, what people tell you and what actually happens are 3 different things. Your truth Their truth And the real truth. I may not be a gamer geek at repairing but months to fix is a long long time to me and obviously a lot of others.
That analogy doesn't work here. You don't know how to fix bugs so you can't say that 2 months is to long. What would they have to gain by not fixing as fast as they can? Kabam does get you money, Netmarble does. So whether you spend or not, Kabam doesnt see a dime. They just get paid normally. All they have is the game. They gave a true, vested interest in making sure it works.
@BitterSteel do you work for kabam or fix the bugs? If you don’t how do you know what’s true and what’s not? Or just guessing. I sure as hell don’t know but your guessing just like everyone else.
"The assumption you've made is that this is somehow an easy thing to identify or fix. Neither of those things is true." "In this case, we believe it may have something to do with our Game Engine update, but can't say that for sure yet. That is something that touches literally every aspect of the game, so identifying what that could be is not something that can be done very quickly." Kabam Miike https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1851054#Comment_1851054
I mean, if you call reading what Kabam say and basing an opinion off the facts they give, sure, I'm guessing.
Research and facts aren't very popular on the forums.
I’ve definitely been hit by parry issues. Dex too. It’s been completely random when, where and how often it happens. The AW/AQ compensation has more than covered issues I have faced in that content. Almost no trouble in AW. AQ has been bad at times. I had serious trouble against sop grandmaster, dex randomly wasn’t working. Controls in the fight felt really unresponsive. Cost me quite a few revives.
@BitterSteel do you work for kabam or fix the bugs? If you don’t how do you know what’s true and what’s not? Or just guessing. I sure as hell don’t know but your guessing just like everyone else.
"The assumption you've made is that this is somehow an easy thing to identify or fix. Neither of those things is true." "In this case, we believe it may have something to do with our Game Engine update, but can't say that for sure yet. That is something that touches literally every aspect of the game, so identifying what that could be is not something that can be done very quickly." Kabam Miike https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1851054#Comment_1851054
I mean, if you call reading what Kabam say and basing an opinion off the facts they give, sure, I'm guessing.
Research and facts aren't very popular on the forums.
Apparently they can be countered by "Well Bill Clinton lied about having sexual relations", I may have to use that one myself when I disagree with someone.
your not 100% on if kabam are telling truth or not either as much as you think you believe, do you believe everything you hear from people on the internet you don’t even know.
No I don't believe everything I hear on the internet. For example, I don't believe someone who says the best option is to fire employees for an issue they admit they don't understand, or that a company should remove the option to spend while a bug is going on.
But I'll tell you what I do believe, a game team representative who is informing us on the status, cause and complexity of a bug that kabam have no benefit to keep in game any longer than it takes to say "conspiracy theory". I believe them, because they have no reason to lie. What benefit could Kabam possibly have for keeping a bug in the game? Annoyed players, reduced spending in the short and long term, but hey, at least a few players bought a few revives?
I maybe wrong with the kabam don’t wanna fix @ BitterSteel as I don’t understand some of the gamer stuff, but your not 100% on if kabam are telling truth or not either as much as you think you believe, do you believe everything you hear from people on the internet you don’t even know. And no stealing my bill Clinton line that’s for us not so geeky guys lmao
You're on the internet. You said you were going to bed twice now and here you are. I guess this means you aren't to be trusted since you can't stick your word. Guess you should be fired.
Sounds to me like they have to rebuild portions of the game to get input and timing issues back in order, but sure let’s fire everyone working on that project. Maybe then we can have the front end engineers do a MUCH better job fixing the issues. You know, just to bring the forums this week full circle.
Bittersteel may not know with absolute certainty, but logic would dictate employees would like to keep their company (and source of revenue) for as long as possible. I don’t care how many people say it, but I see no reason for Kabam to crash their own game.
Second, Kabam has stated what they believe the problem is, and we have no reason to doubt them. Could they be lying? Sure, but if they are, why would they? If you agree that Kabam is not interested in self-sabotage then it would stand to reason that they have no reason to lie about their identification and goals in fixing the problems.
There have been many, but this has got to be one of the strangest, most unintelligible conspiracy theories I have seen on these forums to date.
I’ve responded to this, but was sent to the abyss of approval, I’m sure you’ll all see it in a few hours
Sounds to me like they have to rebuild portions of the game to get input and timing issues back in order, but sure let’s fire everyone working on that project. Maybe then we can have the front end engineers do a MUCH better job fixing the issues. You know, just to bring the forums this week full circle.
Bittersteel may not know with absolute certainty, but logic would dictate employees would like to keep their company (and source of revenue) for as long as possible. I don’t care how many people say it, but I see no reason for Kabam to crash their own game.
Second, Kabam has stated what they believe the problem is, and we have no reason to doubt them. Could they be lying? Sure, but if they are, why would they? If you agree that Kabam is not interested in self-sabotage then it would stand to reason that they have no reason to lie about their identification and goals in fixing the problems.
There have been many, but this has got to be one of the strangest, most unintelligible conspiracy theories I have seen on these forums to date.
I’ve responded to this, but was sent to the abyss of approval, I’m sure you’ll all see it in a few hours
Lol luckily I saw it. But a few hours? Mighty optimistic of you
Sounds to me like they have to rebuild portions of the game to get input and timing issues back in order, but sure let’s fire everyone working on that project. Maybe then we can have the front end engineers do a MUCH better job fixing the issues. You know, just to bring the forums this week full circle.
Bittersteel may not know with absolute certainty, but logic would dictate employees would like to keep their company (and source of revenue) for as long as possible. I don’t care how many people say it, but I see no reason for Kabam to crash their own game.
Second, Kabam has stated what they believe the problem is, and we have no reason to doubt them. Could they be lying? Sure, but if they are, why would they? If you agree that Kabam is not interested in self-sabotage then it would stand to reason that they have no reason to lie about their identification and goals in fixing the problems.
There have been many, but this has got to be one of the strangest, most unintelligible conspiracy theories I have seen on these forums to date.
I’ve responded to this, but was sent to the abyss of approval, I’m sure you’ll all see it in a few hours
Lol luckily I saw it. But a few hours? Mighty optimistic of you
That’s what I get for editing my comment lol
As far as the communication thing though, I find it annoying when they say things like “later this month”, “by the end of this month” but don’t bother to update us as soon as they narrow in on a timeframe.
I don’t need a by the minute blog, but I do think they can be more prompt with updates if there is what to update. At the same time, I don’t really care for a daily update that says the game is still broken, still working to repair the fix. So my desire for better communication really depends on what else there is to tell us.
Absolutely correct.
I’ve seen numerous threads asking precisely this—calm, polite, reasonable—either go missing or pigeonholed somewhere else on forums.
It seems like simple courtesy to respond and say whether there’s a date or a changed timeline, or whether the date is dependent on something else.
It really would be appreciated if they were willing to clue everyone in a little.
The problem is these Posts are redundant. We know there are problems. They're working on them as fast as they can. It's not as if they want the game to be bugged.
Does the bugs make people spend money on things like units for revives? That's good business for them.
I’m trying to grind this six star arena and it’s been a nightmare. Every couple rounds it glitches out, connection drops, spinning wheel of death. This was already such a slog and having game issues during it seems such a bad way to celebrate the community. Really disappointing
Sounds to me like they have to rebuild portions of the game to get input and timing issues back in order, but sure let’s fire everyone working on that project. Maybe then we can have the front end engineers do a MUCH better job fixing the issues. You know, just to bring the forums this week full circle.
Bittersteel may not know with absolute certainty, but logic would dictate employees would like to keep their company (and source of revenue) for as long as possible. I don’t care how many people say it, but I see no reason for Kabam to crash their own game.
Second, Kabam has stated what they believe the problem is, and we have no reason to doubt them. Could they be lying? Sure, but if they are, why would they? If you agree that Kabam is not interested in self-sabotage then it would stand to reason that they have no reason to lie about their identification and goals in fixing the problems.
There have been many, but this has got to be one of the strangest, most unintelligible conspiracy theories I have seen on these forums to date.
I’ve responded to this, but was sent to the abyss of approval, I’m sure you’ll all see it in a few hours
Lol luckily I saw it. But a few hours? Mighty optimistic of you
That’s what I get for editing my comment lol
As far as the communication thing though, I find it annoying when they say things like “later this month”, “by the end of this month” but don’t bother to update us as soon as they narrow in on a timeframe.
I don’t need a by the minute blog, but I do think they can be more prompt with updates if there is what to update. At the same time, I don’t really care for a daily update that says the game is still broken, still working to repair the fix. So my desire for better communication really depends on what else there is to tell us.
My concern is the compensation will be pointless if the sop event is already done or only 1 day from being done
@BitterSteel they need to communicate better. Also if it’s to complex sack the people who can’t do their jobs properly, it would be a multi million dollar enterprise not just some back yard hack job, if a car company can’t provide a service that works on a car they can’t keep selling that car, it has to be fixed before selling more issues, so no more content releases and shut war and aq down. Those who havnt done some content if they wanna play can do catch ups with that stuff, while others can chill, then if they wanna do compo once bugs are fixed that’s up to them but selling a faulty product isn’t the way to go. Half those bugs with those champs you wrote are crazy minor and take a lot of fooling round to master, and as a whole these major bugs are ruining alliances in big squads because great players with high prestige are hard to find so there is a bigger picture also. I see your point with some stuff but it’s been over a month and they still have the $ stuff for sale that should be stopped or on hold zero spending actual money until fixed unless kabam are gonna refund $ amd units. That’s my view each person will have a different view some will stand for kabam and some don’t care and some are about had enough I just hope it’s fixed soon
Kabam aren't selling a faulty product, and the contract you have with a car company is vastly different to the one you have with kabam while you play their game. The game is bugged, yes that's bad and yes we want it fixed as early as possible. But you're talking like you think someone specifically turned off parry, as if there's a switch somewhere and someone turned it off. This bug came about because they upgraded their unity game engine, doing so may have undone or changed hundreds of different timing parameters for parry and dex. From what I've read from Kabam Miike and DNA who have explained it, this was not a foreseeable bug, this wasn't a bug that you can just test. You can't test how upgrading a game engine is going to affect every part of the game, it just happens and Kabam are scrambling to fix it. Who would you fire for that? "Just fire someone" isn't a solution, it's something people jump to when they just want to be angry.
So your solution to all this, is for kabam to stop allowing players to spend? That's definitely a new one. In a couple months when revenue is going to be lower because players are upset with the state of the game, you want Kabam to stop letting players spend. I'm curious, do you know the impact of that? Cause if you want a game to play, that's not the solution.
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It's possible that's it's really not even a true bug but just how the performance of the game engine works and we're not used to it. On top of being a core process, you have 100's of different devices spec'd out in different ways that you have to program the game to work with. None of this is easy. It's completely unfair for you to say someone should be fired when you don't even have clue in how to do thier job. You don't even understand the basics.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/274203/gameplay-issues-fix-timeline#latest
"we believe that a recent update to our game engine is the cause of the problems that players are experiencing"
"Making those improvements will be a lengthy process where we will be overhauling a large part of the game to work with this engine update." MCOC Game Team
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/276481/update-gameplay-concerns-affecting-parry-and-dexterity#latest
"The assumption you've made is that this is somehow an easy thing to identify or fix. Neither of those things is true."
"In this case, we believe it may have something to do with our Game Engine update, but can't say that for sure yet. That is something that touches literally every aspect of the game, so identifying what that could be is not something that can be done very quickly." Kabam Miike
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1851054#Comment_1851054
I mean, if you call reading what Kabam say and basing an opinion off the facts they give, sure, I'm guessing.
Parry_timing = broken
Oh, I'd better fix this code
Parry_timing = fixed.
It’s been completely random when, where and how often it happens.
The AW/AQ compensation has more than covered issues I have faced in that content.
Almost no trouble in AW. AQ has been bad at times.
I had serious trouble against sop grandmaster, dex randomly wasn’t working. Controls in the fight felt really unresponsive. Cost me quite a few revives.
But I'll tell you what I do believe, a game team representative who is informing us on the status, cause and complexity of a bug that kabam have no benefit to keep in game any longer than it takes to say "conspiracy theory". I believe them, because they have no reason to lie. What benefit could Kabam possibly have for keeping a bug in the game? Annoyed players, reduced spending in the short and long term, but hey, at least a few players bought a few revives?
Different spellings I assume result from conversion from Old English.
And I urge the team to send relief so we can move on to clogging the forums with threads debating its sufficiency/ insufficiency.
Dr. Zola
I’ve seen numerous threads asking precisely this—calm, polite, reasonable—either go missing or pigeonholed somewhere else on forums.
It seems like simple courtesy to respond and say whether there’s a date or a changed timeline, or whether the date is dependent on something else.
It really would be appreciated if they were willing to clue everyone in a little.
Dr. Zola