Kabam, IMHO…these restrictions show just how out of touch you are with the majority of the player base.
1) Level 40 – This is a way OTT, as if the two other points below didnt already stop mass accs being created to take an “unfair” advantage of gifting main accs, then I would agree this is needed at this level of restriction. BUT….now, you’re now going to be penalizing and eliminating someone who has been with you for 6+ mnths plus…but just hasn’t grinded out fights to gain XP!!!
2) Become conqueror – Fine, this is a grind in itself. You cant beat majority of act 4 without putting in the time and effort…which yes, can be done easier with the rework of act1-3, but still….but if that’s a concern, then yes…use point below to remove any accs created from when the rework of act1-2 went live.
3) Acc created before 20th Nov – Fine, stops majority of the mass creation of accounts to whizz through act 1-3 just for the units to gift yourself. But if anything, it should be from when the rework went live!
Please re-think level 40!!!
Tbh u doubt ppl will stay below conqueror if playing for 6 months? Even a relaxed player can get uncollected or atleast be in act 5.2 during that time
Conqueror is very easy these days considering how fast 4* can be gained and no annoying lanes like act 5.2 masochism quest which is undeniably hard for freshers maybe buffet quest Beside that no hard fights except couple revive maestro fight
I'm a little bummed, but not surprised or upset. My only confusion, is what are they going to do next year? Obviously a lot can change in a year, but it seems as though any alts created this year should be able to gift next year, which causes the exact same problem, but removes the easy solution of locking brand new accounts. Rather than being a short term gain, the alts created this year can just be a much longer term benefit
I doubt the ppl who made gifting account even put time and effort to reach lvl 40, act 4 completion
This is just WRONG. Kabam could've said it on the 20th and save some time and frustration. Spending 10hr on one junior account to gift main is not that easy and not an exploit. AND JABARI IS A GORILLA NOT APANTHER + KRAVAN HAS ADIFFRENT TYPE OF BEARD.
I'm still trying to figure out what's the relation between what u typed in small and caps
Need a clarification . I have 2 alts which i created 2 months ago but haven't completed act 4 yet and on level 31 right now . So my both accounts will be eligible for gifting right if i reach the requirements now ?
This is such a slap in the face I have a level 60 main account got bored In 2019-2020 and made a mini account that I play on for fun and then gift the units over to my main come Christmas time. I have had this account for well over a year and more than likely won’t be able to gift because I’m not level 40 on it. I can’t even grind it out as I don’t have energy refills or XP boosts so getting to level 40 will be a stretch. What is stupid is that I was able to gift on this account but not this year ?!? What the heck kabam, I’m about to ask for a refund for the three unit daily cards I have purchased on this account, I picked them up for one reason and now your saying I can’t use them. This might be the straw that broke the camels back after how horrendous this year has been for the game.
Kabam, IMHO…these restrictions show just how out of touch you are with the majority of the player base.
1) Level 40 – This is a way OTT, as if the two other points below didnt already stop mass accs being created to take an “unfair” advantage of gifting main accs, then I would agree this is needed at this level of restriction. BUT….now, you’re now going to be penalizing and eliminating someone who has been with you for 6+ mnths plus…but just hasn’t grinded out fights to gain XP!!!
2) Become conqueror – Fine, this is a grind in itself. You cant beat majority of act 4 without putting in the time and effort…which yes, can be done easier with the rework of act1-3, but still….but if that’s a concern, then yes…use point below to remove any accs created from when the rework of act1-2 went live.
3) Acc created before 20th Nov – Fine, stops majority of the mass creation of accounts to whizz through act 1-3 just for the units to gift yourself. But if anything, it should be from when the rework went live!
Please re-think level 40!!!
Tbh u doubt ppl will stay below conqueror if playing for 6 months? Even a relaxed player can get uncollected or atleast be in act 5.2 during that time
Conqueror is very easy these days considering how fast 4* can be gained and no annoying lanes like act 5.2 masochism quest which is undeniably hard for freshers maybe buffet quest Beside that no hard fights except couple revive maestro fight
To be honest I know someone with lv60. 17,320 total quests completed 9,619 daily quest completed 124,249 Quest fight won 132,618 PVP Fight won
With Ancient one title I don't know how can this happen. He doesn't know about Paarry and Dexterity actually about Mastery I tried to tell him that but...seem he refused he said he will go for Uncollected when his champion PI is the same to the defense on those quests (he meant this). And I gave up :-/
Rethink all of it. So what if people made alt accounts. THEY STILL HAD TO GRIND THE WHOLE THING!!!!
Yes and get to lvl 40 and complete act 4 I agree with kabam, weeds out all the multiple exploit account. Makes gifting fair
So those of us who made multiple accounts YEARS prior, left them at the last requirement are exploiting?
This years requirement was a direct result of the changes they made this last quarter. I myself have 2 alts that I used last year that I can’t use this year. Tell me how those were exploitive.
I'm playing this game for over 5 years now, not to get the highest or the best, but just for fun. In this 5+ years i've created multiple accounts, just to switch from time to time and play other champions I don't have on the main. All these accounts are over at least 2 or 3 years old and haven't reached lvl 40 or act 4...
So I was kind off suprised about the restrictions. I get why they do it, but last 2 or 3 years of gifting event I could send crystals from the alternative accounts to my main to boost it, without any restrictions.
Why lvl 40 and act 4? Lower the lvl restrictions to lvl 30, and act 3 (old one), that would rule out 95% of the unit grinders and would give the older accounts a chance to still participate in one of the few parts in this game all people look forward to
Rethink all of it. So what if people made alt accounts. THEY STILL HAD TO GRIND THE WHOLE THING!!!!
Yes and get to lvl 40 and complete act 4 I agree with kabam, weeds out all the multiple exploit account. Makes gifting fair
So those of us who made multiple accounts YEARS prior, left them at the last requirement are exploiting?
This years requirement was a direct result of the changes they made this last quarter. I myself have 2 alts that I used last year that I can’t use this year. Tell me how those were exploitive.
You can. Fulfill the requirements. Which aren't that lofty. Especially for someone who has been playing for years.
I think it’s odd that they added the November requirement AND level 40, which seems excessive. More than anything, I’d be interested in seeing the data that led them to determine that this is what makes sense.
Until then, I’m convinced that it actually has to do with the BG video because that’s the simplest explanation I can think of.
One of the reasons I suspect. Getting one or two Accounts to Level 40 isn't insurmountable. Getting 20-30 there makes it quite a hurdle. Besides other possible preventions.
I think it’s odd that they added the November requirement AND level 40, which seems excessive. More than anything, I’d be interested in seeing the data that led them to determine that this is what makes sense.
Until then, I’m convinced that it actually has to do with the BG video because that’s the simplest explanation I can think of.
I actually think it’s a pro player move that one. Think about it, if Kabam wanted to shut out all alt gifting based on Brian’s video, easy, make the cut off before the video dropped on the 15th. Instead, they chose to make it 5 days after, when people who wanted to grind alts inspired by BGs vid will have already made a few accounts. But, it stops mass exploiters who were going to make 1 account a day, grind it then move onto the next.
However, since it wouldn’t stop any exploiters who made all their accounts the day of Brian’s videos, and was planning on going through each of them one by one. So that’s why the level 40 is there.
The level 40 is still enough to stop mass exploiters, while allowing your average player to grind up to it before gifting. It’s not the perfect solution, as it still does mess with people like @Liss_Bliss_ who have alts from last year. But I’ve still not seen anyone suggest an alternative that doesn’t screw someone else over, but still would stop exploiters. At the moment, all complaints have been “I’m affected, stop it affecting me” and the suggestion to stop it affected them have been change the account date creation, or more numerously, reduce the level I need to grind to. Which would just make it easier for exploiters to get to
I feel like the people that are mad about this were trying to exploit a part of the game that got gifting taken away from us in the first place. Creating an account just to gift to your main account is wrong and an exploit. I know this will be unpopular opinion, but it how I feel. Brian Grant is also not at fault for making a video. The people that want to quit because of this are not the people keeping the lights on at Kabam, why should we be upset if they will leave?
Rethink all of it. So what if people made alt accounts. THEY STILL HAD TO GRIND THE WHOLE THING!!!!
Yes and get to lvl 40 and complete act 4 I agree with kabam, weeds out all the multiple exploit account. Makes gifting fair
So those of us who made multiple accounts YEARS prior, left them at the last requirement are exploiting?
This years requirement was a direct result of the changes they made this last quarter. I myself have 2 alts that I used last year that I can’t use this year. Tell me how those were exploitive.
I'm not talking about those Plenty of ppl made new account just after act 1,2,3 buff I too have 2 side account and one of then is lvl 27 and complete act 4.2. I'll be popping up xp boost, complete 4.4 and grind venom quest for xp. That's how genuine alt can get to lvl 40. There are ppl who just started like 3-4 account just after act buffs
I think it’s odd that they added the November requirement AND level 40, which seems excessive. More than anything, I’d be interested in seeing the data that led them to determine that this is what makes sense.
Until then, I’m convinced that it actually has to do with the BG video because that’s the simplest explanation I can think of.
I definitely agree that BG video was the cause of this..
I feel like the people that are mad about this were trying to exploit a part of the game that got gifting taken away from us in the first place. Creating an account just to gift to your main account is wrong and an exploit. I know this will be unpopular opinion, but it how I feel. Brian Grant is also not at fault for making a video. The people that want to quit because of this are not the people keeping the lights on at Kabam, why should we be upset if they will leave?
Considering KabamMiike greenlight this behavior (not the spirit) for the gifting event not more than 11 months ago, Kabam set a precedent with people creating these accounts to gift themselves.
Brian Grant provided an unrealistic theory and should be criticized for it.
These new minimums only delay those who tried to grind their alts to help there main account and provide mercs a new opportunity to make $ of people.
I'm playing this game for over 5 years now, not to get the highest or the best, but just for fun. In this 5+ years i've created multiple accounts, just to switch from time to time and play other champions I don't have on the main. All these accounts are over at least 2 or 3 years old and haven't reached lvl 40 or act 4...
So I was kind off suprised about the restrictions. I get why they do it, but last 2 or 3 years of gifting event I could send crystals from the alternative accounts to my main to boost it, without any restrictions.
Why lvl 40 and act 4? Lower the lvl restrictions to lvl 30, and act 3 (old one), that would rule out 95% of the unit grinders and would give the older accounts a chance to still participate in one of the few parts in this game all people look forward to
Oh that's cuz act 1 had only 1 chapter, act 2 has only 1 chapter, act 3 has 2 chapter summing up to total of 4. Before buff it was 3 times more than what it's currently. Also as per I know act 1,2,3 exploration account easily gets up to 27 lvl and that's only by playing barely a week. Currently u can fly through act 1-3 like a butterfly.
I think it’s odd that they added the November requirement AND level 40, which seems excessive. More than anything, I’d be interested in seeing the data that led them to determine that this is what makes sense.
Until then, I’m convinced that it actually has to do with the BG video because that’s the simplest explanation I can think of.
I definitely agree that BG video was the cause of this..
Miike literally confirmed they were planning on doing it before BGs video. You are wrong I’m afraid.
I think it’s odd that they added the November requirement AND level 40, which seems excessive. More than anything, I’d be interested in seeing the data that led them to determine that this is what makes sense.
Until then, I’m convinced that it actually has to do with the BG video because that’s the simplest explanation I can think of.
I actually think it’s a pro player move that one. Think about it, if Kabam wanted to shut out all alt gifting based on Brian’s video, easy, make the cut off before the video dropped on the 15th. Instead, they chose to make it 5 days after, when people who wanted to grind alts inspired by BGs vid will have already made a few accounts. But, it stops mass exploiters who were going to make 1 account a day, grind it then move onto the next.
However, since it wouldn’t stop any exploiters who made all their accounts the day of Brian’s videos, and was planning on going through each of them one by one. So that’s why the level 40 is there.
The level 40 is still enough to stop mass exploiters, while allowing your average player to grind up to it before gifting. It’s not the perfect solution, as it still does mess with people like @Liss_Bliss_ who have alts from last year. But I’ve still not seen anyone suggest an alternative that doesn’t screw someone else over, but still would stop exploiters. At the moment, all complaints have been “I’m affected, stop it affecting me” and the suggestion to stop it affected them have been change the account date creation, or more numerously, reduce the level I need to grind to. Which would just make it easier for exploiters to get to
Except the restrictions benefit the cheaters above anyone else.
For example, I have 10 alts, all completed Act 3, all around 28-32 level range. All of these accounts are 11-18 months old. I spent about 6 hours exp grinding a level 28 account. It’s at level 33 now. So I’d loosely guess 30-40 will take about 18 hours of grinding.
Consider it takes 12 hours to get to level 30 and through Act 4. We’re looking at around 30+ hours of grinding for about 10 GGC. Which will net someone about 25% of a 6-star and about 60% of a 5-star. Completely not worth it… for a real person.
However, the cheaters mass create accounts. Once you get level 5, you get a 30% beginner exp boost. Then you get 20% exp boost from the free sigil. So these shell accounts will gain exp faster. And all they have to do is bot (or even just a macro of some sort with autofight/restart). Even outside cheaters, those with new accounts created after BGs videos will be in a better spot to grind exp than older accounts that slowly played over the course of months or years.
So what has this requirement done? It completely shut down legitimate grinding and only marginally slowed down cheaters. It slowed down, but still benefits those the opportunistic players that created accounts because of the changes.
With all the data Kabam has, this requirement was lazy and ill-conceived. Once again, it ignores botting.
I think it’s odd that they added the November requirement AND level 40, which seems excessive. More than anything, I’d be interested in seeing the data that led them to determine that this is what makes sense.
Until then, I’m convinced that it actually has to do with the BG video because that’s the simplest explanation I can think of.
I actually think it’s a pro player move that one. Think about it, if Kabam wanted to shut out all alt gifting based on Brian’s video, easy, make the cut off before the video dropped on the 15th. Instead, they chose to make it 5 days after, when people who wanted to grind alts inspired by BGs vid will have already made a few accounts. But, it stops mass exploiters who were going to make 1 account a day, grind it then move onto the next.
However, since it wouldn’t stop any exploiters who made all their accounts the day of Brian’s videos, and was planning on going through each of them one by one. So that’s why the level 40 is there.
The level 40 is still enough to stop mass exploiters, while allowing your average player to grind up to it before gifting. It’s not the perfect solution, as it still does mess with people like @Liss_Bliss_ who have alts from last year. But I’ve still not seen anyone suggest an alternative that doesn’t screw someone else over, but still would stop exploiters. At the moment, all complaints have been “I’m affected, stop it affecting me” and the suggestion to stop it affected them have been change the account date creation, or more numerously, reduce the level I need to grind to. Which would just make it easier for exploiters to get to
Except the restrictions benefit the cheaters above anyone else.
For example, I have 10 alts, all completed Act 3, all around 28-32 level range. All of these accounts are 11-18 months old. I spent about 6 hours exp grinding a level 28 account. It’s at level 33 now. So I’d loosely guess 30-40 will take about 18 hours of grinding.
Consider it takes 12 hours to get to level 30 and through Act 4. We’re looking at around 30+ hours of grinding for about 10 GGC. Which will net someone about 25% of a 6-star and about 60% of a 5-star. Completely not worth it… for a real person.
However, the cheaters mass create accounts. Once you get level 5, you get a 30% beginner exp boost. Then you get 20% exp boost from the free sigil. So these shell accounts will gain exp faster. And all they have to do is bot (or even just a macro of some sort with autofight/restart). Even outside cheaters, those with new accounts created after BGs videos will be in a better spot to grind exp than older accounts that slowly played over the course of months or years.
So what has this requirement done? It completely shut down legitimate grinding and only marginally slowed down cheaters. It slowed down, but still benefits those the opportunistic players that created accounts because of the changes.
With all the data Kabam has, this requirement was lazy and ill-conceived. Once again, it ignores botting.
That would be true if this was the only method to catch bot farmers, which it isn’t. @DNA3000 knows more about it than I do, but (reasonably) doesn’t want to go into specifics, which would enable those bot farmers to skirt methods of detection.
In my view, this method largely targets mass exploiters who would do it by hand to dissuade them from doing it over and over again. Which it is successful in doing.
I think it’s odd that they added the November requirement AND level 40, which seems excessive. More than anything, I’d be interested in seeing the data that led them to determine that this is what makes sense.
Until then, I’m convinced that it actually has to do with the BG video because that’s the simplest explanation I can think of.
One of the reasons I suspect. Getting one or two Accounts to Level 40 isn't insurmountable. Getting 20-30 there makes it quite a hurdle. Besides other possible preventions.
Which is why the November 20 deadline seems a little redundant, doesn’t it? I’m just asking why they needed that AND level 40, as opposed to November 20 and level 30 and conquerer, let’s say. I’m just making up numbers, but without knowing the data, these seem like overkill.
I think it’s odd that they added the November requirement AND level 40, which seems excessive. More than anything, I’d be interested in seeing the data that led them to determine that this is what makes sense.
Until then, I’m convinced that it actually has to do with the BG video because that’s the simplest explanation I can think of.
I actually think it’s a pro player move that one. Think about it, if Kabam wanted to shut out all alt gifting based on Brian’s video, easy, make the cut off before the video dropped on the 15th. Instead, they chose to make it 5 days after, when people who wanted to grind alts inspired by BGs vid will have already made a few accounts. But, it stops mass exploiters who were going to make 1 account a day, grind it then move onto the next.
However, since it wouldn’t stop any exploiters who made all their accounts the day of Brian’s videos, and was planning on going through each of them one by one. So that’s why the level 40 is there.
The level 40 is still enough to stop mass exploiters, while allowing your average player to grind up to it before gifting. It’s not the perfect solution, as it still does mess with people like @Liss_Bliss_ who have alts from last year. But I’ve still not seen anyone suggest an alternative that doesn’t screw someone else over, but still would stop exploiters. At the moment, all complaints have been “I’m affected, stop it affecting me” and the suggestion to stop it affected them have been change the account date creation, or more numerously, reduce the level I need to grind to. Which would just make it easier for exploiters to get to
So two points to address:
First, I agree that a lot of the outrage seems to stem from people not liking that they are affecting by something put in place to stop exploitation that desperately needed to be addressed.
Second, I’m not sure you understand my point. I’m just wondering why we need both. How easy is it to take an account to level 40 that they needed to put the Novemeber 20 cutoff in there as well? As far as I can tell, it is impractical to take more than two or 3 accounts to that level, even if you started now. Not to mention that most would lose their drive to grind at that point. Once they add the November 20 cutoff, no one can create an account everyday like you suggested, and therefore seems to make that issue moot. I’m not affected by this, but I’m still curious to see what data drove them to first, make that cutoff, and second, settle on level 40 AND conqueror. It seems to me that level 40 or November 20 and conquerer should have been sufficient. So again, I’m just wondering what in the data caused this, assuming it was data driven, which people don’t give Kabam enough credit for doing.
Because either one doesn’t filter out enough exploitative accounts.
It’s just another level of security against exploiters IMO. As you said, I’m sure Kabam have reasons for it, and I definitely agree that it would be nice to have each requirement explained, until then I can only speculate on why they’ve chosen each of them. But they wouldn’t have chosen them if they didn’t believe it filtered out enough exploitation
Hi guys, i created this account about a year ago (as you can see there are read mails that are on the 8th of november)
however I only created a kabam account for this account on 23rd november. Before the 23rd, this account was not linked to any email.
Anyone knows if this account will be considered eligible for gifting event?
nov 23th creation date? No it will not be. nov 20th was cut off
But nov 23rd was when i created a KABAM account (where i linked an email account to it). i had this account wayyy before 23rd of november i was just playing without a KABAM id then. Will it still be eligible for gifting?
I think it’s odd that they added the November requirement AND level 40, which seems excessive. More than anything, I’d be interested in seeing the data that led them to determine that this is what makes sense.
Until then, I’m convinced that it actually has to do with the BG video because that’s the simplest explanation I can think of.
I actually think it’s a pro player move that one. Think about it, if Kabam wanted to shut out all alt gifting based on Brian’s video, easy, make the cut off before the video dropped on the 15th. Instead, they chose to make it 5 days after, when people who wanted to grind alts inspired by BGs vid will have already made a few accounts. But, it stops mass exploiters who were going to make 1 account a day, grind it then move onto the next.
However, since it wouldn’t stop any exploiters who made all their accounts the day of Brian’s videos, and was planning on going through each of them one by one. So that’s why the level 40 is there.
The level 40 is still enough to stop mass exploiters, while allowing your average player to grind up to it before gifting. It’s not the perfect solution, as it still does mess with people like @Liss_Bliss_ who have alts from last year. But I’ve still not seen anyone suggest an alternative that doesn’t screw someone else over, but still would stop exploiters. At the moment, all complaints have been “I’m affected, stop it affecting me” and the suggestion to stop it affected them have been change the account date creation, or more numerously, reduce the level I need to grind to. Which would just make it easier for exploiters to get to
I feel like they should push the account creation date back to 1 day prior to Brian Grants video being released. But that hurts legitimate new players. But I am sure they have a way of seeing if an account was created on a device used by an established players phone.
I saw someone offer a tip on act 4 grinding location in this thread and I’ll look into it. But it still stings. That account was specifically created for 1 purpose.
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I agree with kabam, weeds out all the multiple exploit account. Makes gifting fair
Even a relaxed player can get uncollected or atleast be in act 5.2 during that time
Conqueror is very easy these days considering how fast 4* can be gained and no annoying lanes like act 5.2 masochism quest which is undeniably hard for freshers maybe buffet quest
Beside that no hard fights except couple revive maestro fight
17,320 total quests completed
9,619 daily quest completed
124,249 Quest fight won
132,618 PVP Fight won
With Ancient one title
I don't know how can this happen. He doesn't know about Paarry and Dexterity actually about Mastery
I tried to tell him that but...seem he refused he said he will go for Uncollected when his champion PI is the same to the defense on those quests (he meant this). And I gave up
:-/
This years requirement was a direct result of the changes they made this last quarter. I myself have 2 alts that I used last year that I can’t use this year. Tell me how those were exploitive.
So I was kind off suprised about the restrictions. I get why they do it, but last 2 or 3 years of gifting event I could send crystals from the alternative accounts to my main to boost it, without any restrictions.
Why lvl 40 and act 4? Lower the lvl restrictions to lvl 30, and act 3 (old one), that would rule out 95% of the unit grinders and would give the older accounts a chance to still participate in one of the few parts in this game all people look forward to
However, since it wouldn’t stop any exploiters who made all their accounts the day of Brian’s videos, and was planning on going through each of them one by one. So that’s why the level 40 is there.
The level 40 is still enough to stop mass exploiters, while allowing your average player to grind up to it before gifting. It’s not the perfect solution, as it still does mess with people like @Liss_Bliss_ who have alts from last year. But I’ve still not seen anyone suggest an alternative that doesn’t screw someone else over, but still would stop exploiters. At the moment, all complaints have been “I’m affected, stop it affecting me” and the suggestion to stop it affected them have been change the account date creation, or more numerously, reduce the level I need to grind to. Which would just make it easier for exploiters to get to
Plenty of ppl made new account just after act 1,2,3 buff
I too have 2 side account and one of then is lvl 27 and complete act 4.2. I'll be popping up xp boost, complete 4.4 and grind venom quest for xp. That's how genuine alt can get to lvl 40. There are ppl who just started like 3-4 account just after act buffs
Brian Grant provided an unrealistic theory and should be criticized for it.
These new minimums only delay those who tried to grind their alts to help there main account and provide mercs a new opportunity to make $ of people.
For example, I have 10 alts, all completed Act 3, all around 28-32 level range. All of these accounts are 11-18 months old. I spent about 6 hours exp grinding a level 28 account. It’s at level 33 now. So I’d loosely guess 30-40 will take about 18 hours of grinding.
Consider it takes 12 hours to get to level 30 and through Act 4. We’re looking at around 30+ hours of grinding for about 10 GGC. Which will net someone about 25% of a 6-star and about 60% of a 5-star. Completely not worth it… for a real person.
However, the cheaters mass create accounts. Once you get level 5, you get a 30% beginner exp boost. Then you get 20% exp boost from the free sigil. So these shell accounts will gain exp faster. And all they have to do is bot (or even just a macro of some sort with autofight/restart). Even outside cheaters, those with new accounts created after BGs videos will be in a better spot to grind exp than older accounts that slowly played over the course of months or years.
So what has this requirement done? It completely shut down legitimate grinding and only marginally slowed down cheaters. It slowed down, but still benefits those the opportunistic players that created accounts because of the changes.
With all the data Kabam has, this requirement was lazy and ill-conceived. Once again, it ignores botting.
In my view, this method largely targets mass exploiters who would do it by hand to dissuade them from doing it over and over again. Which it is successful in doing.
It’s just another level of security against exploiters IMO. As you said, I’m sure Kabam have reasons for it, and I definitely agree that it would be nice to have each requirement explained, until then I can only speculate on why they’ve chosen each of them. But they wouldn’t have chosen them if they didn’t believe it filtered out enough exploitation
It seems like alt 'farming' has technically always been possible, but this year things have soured quickly.
I saw someone offer a tip on act 4 grinding location in this thread and I’ll look into it. But it still stings. That account was specifically created for 1 purpose.