The Cavalier Blues

Upanddown_69Upanddown_69 Member Posts: 251
edited December 2021 in General Discussion
I was reading about the upcoming events and it sort of solidified what I’ve been thinking for some time…

It sucks that cavalier players have been more and more lumped in with uncollected than thronebreaker when it comes to event quest rewards, and now apparently with the upcoming trade in event.

Between the titles, all the way from contender up, there was always a chunk of “challenging” content between you and the next rank.

What I think people tend to forget is that there are plenty of cavalier players who have finished (or even 100%) act 6, and the only thing separating them from thronebreaker is the r3 champ.

There’s no content between them, just money/units or rank up materials.

People have been saying that this is Kabam trying to push us up to TB, but it’s the very thing stopping us from getting there.

Some players have rank up materials but no rank 3 worthy champs. Others have great champs, but no t5cc… either way, forcing us to get 5 star shards as rewards instead of 6 star, lower catalysts, sig stones, and awakening gems is the main thing standing in the way.

For many players, all that makes TB better, is that they could afford (game resource or real world) to press “upgrade” one more time than they could.

Seems like changing the rules, and I’m not sure in a positive way. 😒
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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Well, if you’re asking me personally, I’d say none of the above.

    If I’m honest, I totally, completely, and utterly suck at just about every single aspect of the game.

    So the first thing is work on gameplay skills. Watch tutorials on intercepting, baiting specials, heavies etc and try replicate. Learn how to use your champions on youtube to the best of their ability.

    What quest are you on in act 6? Most forum members would love to share tips, guides and suggestions for teams, paths and counters. They'd be much more receptive to that than a complaint it's too hard, because it really isn't.

    While going for Thronebreaker the best way to do that is complete Cav EQ every month 100% and save up your 10% Nexus' until you are within that percentage of a T5CC. What I mean by that is, if you have 3 Nexus T5CC crystals and you're 50% of the way there, you can't get there with those Nexus', so hold onto them until you are 70% of the way there in one class. Say you have 70% Skill, open each one of the nexus' one by one, and if you get skill then carry on, but if you don't get skill, then stop. Wait until you have more skill, or more nexus' then repeat. This way, you can avoid a situation where you open a nexus crystal hoping for skill, and miss it, and then later you get more of a different class and you'd have been able to select that class and form a cat.

    Find an alliance that runs map 7 if you can do it, that's a great source of T5CC.

    Find a variant that suits your roster, if you need advice feel free to post it and we can see what champs are best for which variant. 100%ing variants gives 25% T5CC.

  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,059 ★★★★★

    Zan0 said:

    Wow how did I time travel all the way to 2020

    Um lol.

    Am I to take it this has been discussed before?
    Only like 10,000 times.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,059 ★★★★★

    I was reading about the upcoming events and it sort of solidified what I’ve been thinking for some time…

    It sucks that cavalier players have been more and more lumped in with uncollected than thronebreaker when it comes to event quest rewards, and now apparently with the upcoming trade in event.

    Between the titles, all the way from contender up, there was always a chunk of “challenging” content between you and the next rank.

    What I think people tend to forget is that there are plenty of cavalier players who have finished (or even 100%) act 6, and the only thing separating them from thronebreaker is the r3 champ.

    There’s no content between them, just money/units or rank up materials.

    People have been saying that this is Kabam trying to push us up to TB, but it’s the very thing stopping us from getting there.

    Some players have rank up materials but no rank 3 worthy champs. Others have great champs, but no t5cc… either way, forcing us to get 5 star shards as rewards instead of 6 star, lower catalysts, sig stones, and awakening gems is the main thing standing in the way.

    For many players, all that makes TB better, is that they could afford (game resource or real world) to press “upgrade” one more time than they could.

    Seems like changing the rules, and I’m not sure in a positive way. 😒

    And none of those players do map 7 or 8 now with epic modifiers to get the 10% each AQ cycle.

    If players want TB handed to them, they're in for a long wait.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Not necessarily handed to them, but the game has changed. It took me a year for my first 5* back in the day. I don't expect it to be the same for people moving forward.
    We're at the introduction of R4s. What's the motivation in pushing through any content when you're amassing 2% RNG (occasionally 10%) respectively? The issue, as with any progress gates, is eventually you need to adjust them as the game evolves.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Hence the issue. The Frags are being increased for those who aren't struggling to get them.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Zan0 said:

    Not necessarily handed to them, but the game has changed. It took me a year for my first 5* back in the day. I don't expect it to be the same for people moving forward.
    We're at the introduction of R4s. What's the motivation in pushing through any content when you're amassing 2% RNG (occasionally 10%) respectively? The issue, as with any progress gates, is eventually you need to adjust them as the game evolves.

    They are being adjusted, with every update to AQ, every new Variant, selectors are more common, Nexus T5CC crystals, every new chapter added to act 7 there is more and easier accessible T5CC. It's much, much easier to get TB now than it was 2 months ago, and 5 months ago and 10 months ago.

    Any Cav who feels they can't be TB either hasn't been Cav long enough, or they haven't done the necessary and relevant content.
    If you're struggling to hit TB, you're not rocking out Act 7, or the highest AQ Maps. Let's be realistic.
    What? If you are struggling to hit TB and not even playing act 7 then you don’t even deserve / are ready for thronebreaker
    You can't redirect the issue I brought up by making shots at my skill. I can push through anything if I want. I'm talking about the balancing of Resources and how demotivating it is to rely on a trickle of them each month, with added difficulty on top of it. It's creating the opposite effect. It's not easier, it's harder. If you think I'm speaking on my behalf alone, I'm afraid my opinions are a bit broader than self-serving.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Zan0 said:

    Not necessarily handed to them, but the game has changed. It took me a year for my first 5* back in the day. I don't expect it to be the same for people moving forward.
    We're at the introduction of R4s. What's the motivation in pushing through any content when you're amassing 2% RNG (occasionally 10%) respectively? The issue, as with any progress gates, is eventually you need to adjust them as the game evolves.

    They are being adjusted, with every update to AQ, every new Variant, selectors are more common, Nexus T5CC crystals, every new chapter added to act 7 there is more and easier accessible T5CC. It's much, much easier to get TB now than it was 2 months ago, and 5 months ago and 10 months ago.

    Any Cav who feels they can't be TB either hasn't been Cav long enough, or they haven't done the necessary and relevant content.
    If you're struggling to hit TB, you're not rocking out Act 7, or the highest AQ Maps. Let's be realistic.
    What? If you are struggling to hit TB and not even playing act 7 then you don’t even deserve / are ready for thronebreaker
    You can't redirect the issue I brought up by making shots at my skill. I can push through anything if I want. I'm talking about the balancing of Resources and how demotivating it is to rely on a trickle of them each month, with added difficulty on top of it. It's creating the opposite effect. It's not easier, it's harder. If you think I'm speaking on my behalf alone, I'm afraid my opinions are a bit broader than self-serving.
    I think you're taking that one a little personal my guy, I think @Zan0 was saying you plural, as in "vous", or "one".

    You gave an example of a player not rocking out act 7, or AQ. And Zano said if that's the case then they don't deserve TB. If you think it's automatically aimed at you I think that betrays a little of how you feel about not being TB.
  • Tru100Tru100 Member Posts: 260 ★★

    Hence the issue. The Frags are being increased for those who aren't struggling to get them.

    Come on, this is not a legit debate. OP conceded he’s not good at the game, plus unawares of the encyclopedias of previous discussion on the very same topic, which anyone can search and look up. Let’s not rehash old outdated arguments when there’s fresh monthly EQ changes to protest.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★

    Zan0 said:

    Not necessarily handed to them, but the game has changed. It took me a year for my first 5* back in the day. I don't expect it to be the same for people moving forward.
    We're at the introduction of R4s. What's the motivation in pushing through any content when you're amassing 2% RNG (occasionally 10%) respectively? The issue, as with any progress gates, is eventually you need to adjust them as the game evolves.

    They are being adjusted, with every update to AQ, every new Variant, selectors are more common, Nexus T5CC crystals, every new chapter added to act 7 there is more and easier accessible T5CC. It's much, much easier to get TB now than it was 2 months ago, and 5 months ago and 10 months ago.

    Any Cav who feels they can't be TB either hasn't been Cav long enough, or they haven't done the necessary and relevant content.
    If you're struggling to hit TB, you're not rocking out Act 7, or the highest AQ Maps. Let's be realistic.
    What? If you are struggling to hit TB and not even playing act 7 then you don’t even deserve / are ready for thronebreaker
    You can't redirect the issue I brought up by making shots at my skill. I can push through anything if I want. I'm talking about the balancing of Resources and how demotivating it is to rely on a trickle of them each month, with added difficulty on top of it. It's creating the opposite effect. It's not easier, it's harder. If you think I'm speaking on my behalf alone, I'm afraid my opinions are a bit broader than self-serving.
    I think you're taking that one a little personal my guy, I think @Zan0 was saying you plural, as in "vous", or "one".

    You gave an example of a player not rocking out act 7, or AQ. And Zano said if that's the case then they don't deserve TB. If you think it's automatically aimed at you I think that betrays a little of how you feel about not being TB.
    Alright, we'll assume it wasn't directed at me, even though the wording is such. Looking past that, there seems to be a biased view on the opposition. "You just don't want to do the content. It was hard for us, it should be hard for you. You just don't have the skill." (To paraphrase.)
    Only, in every aspect of the game, Resources are rebalanced from time to time. That rebalancing involves a downhill effect that makes them somewhat easier for people underneath to acquire them. That's not happening in this case, and I'm perfectly fine with disagreeing on that front. What I am not talking about, is lack of skill. That seems to be the blanket statement towards any issue people bring up involving these matters, and it doesn't address the issue I presented.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Its been so long since TB was released.. we should be close to a new progression title.. then what? Cry about TB being the 2nd favorite son?
    Like i said its been so long and now t5cc is almost everywhere.. yeah sure u can buy some . But between EQ, SQ, and all the latest variants, ans chap 7 which is way easier than some of the horrible paths in chap 6.. there is no excuse than being picky to r3 a 6*
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    I'm not speaking for everyone at all. I'm speaking for a demographic that typically gets silenced on here. As for the content, it was quite uncharacteristically changed. Enough that people posted about it the majority of the month, and those opinions were heard by the game team. What I said, and my point remains, is we're overdue for a moderate adjustment in terms of the trickle of Cats. Who in the hell wants to spend years amassing enough to form one?
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    I guess cavallier players seem to forget that previous TBs had to go thru the same or worse process, the ability to gain t5cc was worse than it is now...
    Complaining at this point about not enought t5cc frags and decent champs makes older TBs actually laugh ..(at least i find it laughable)
    This is the good old post with a passive begging for better things with the least effort..
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Literally not what I was talking about at all, but sure. Use whatever narrative you like.
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  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,778 Guardian
    Literally just r3 whoever you want, especially if you spend money on cyber weekend, you got enough materials to r3 5 or more 6*s of your choice, that would make r3ing groot worth it
  • DontsellthemDontsellthem Member Posts: 785 ★★★
    Haven’t cav and TB ranked champs for cav EQ purpose only. Now they’ll need to rank up for tag related champs if they don’t already have them up there?

    It’s just dumb.
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