Prestige Race Getting Out of Hand

Khanman500 · May 2022

Alliances battle every week to get to first place in AQ. The for sure way to achieve this is for all 30 members to try and strive to get current max prestige, which is 15,844. These two alliances currently have the same prestige, although when getting down to the decimal, one obviously has the advantage over the other. What is going to happen when these two alliances achieve max prestige or any other third, fourth, etc number of alliances get to this point too? There has to be a better way to get first place in AQ. Sure, some alliances can mess up, miss a node, a member is out of town and cant log, thereby "missing out on points", but that is not always the case. Why not extend the current method of calculating prestige to the top 10 champs versus top 5 on a players roster? There is no way someone will have sig 200 top 10 prestige champs AND be willing to use the scarce resources to R4 them as well; Or will AQ be like AW one day and have a timer added to the mode, to possibly be used as a "tie-breaker" between any and all alliances that achieve max prestige as an ally? A mod response would be greatly appreciated.

TheBair123 · May 2022

imagine everyone else's prestige is 15,844 and yours is like 15,800. imagine being that guy

Khanman500 · May 2022

TheBair123 said:
imagine everyone else's prestige is 15,844 and yours is like 15,800. imagine being that guy

Then take it a step further and imagine thinking 15,800 is "low prestige"

Uvogin · May 2022

Well, Kabam's solution will be to release a new champ with top 5 prestige

HungaryHippo · May 2022

Uvogin said:
Well, Kabam's solution will be to release a new champ with top 5 prestige

Ahh yes, a temporary bandaid to the problem that will rise again when the same two alliances get that new top 5 prestige champ and rank them up

PapaMidnite007 · May 2022

That's why I decided to play the game for fun

The_Chump · May 2022

HungaryHippo said:

Uvogin said:
Well, Kabam's solution will be to release a new champ with top 5 prestige
Ahh yes, a temporary bandaid to the problem that will rise again when the same two alliances get that new top 5 prestige champ and rank them up

Perhaps 7* champs are on there way, essentially restarting the race, as 6*s did previously. Other possibility is that relics would also add prestige to champs and could possibly be leveled, ranked or something, creating a similar race to that of 7*s.

Worknprogress · May 2022

People actually think this is a new situation and the same thing wasn't happening with 5*s when they were still top?

Worknprogress · May 2022

They'll slowly start adding more champs with prestige in the gap between Doom and the rest of the pack and it becomes basically impossible for whole alliances to have all 5 top prestige champs at max sig before another one gets added. It works itself out.

SCZ · May 2022

4* electro used to be the ish

TheTalents · May 2022

It just now got out of control? lol This entire game has been run by prestige for the last 5 years at least. Why do think AQ is easier but you get better rewards than AW?

Yigzz · May 2022

I want to know as well. Who gets first place when their prestige is equal at 15.844?

Pikolu · May 2022

For the sake of top players, do not calculate prestige by top 10 ranks. If you watch KT1s video of him ranking Thor Rags, he absolutely hates doing that, but he does it for the alliance. After 5 rank ups, they are free to rank the champs they find fun. However, if we make it 10, then you have to rank the top 10 prestige champs first, or you're getting kicked. It is a very cutthroat world being in top alliances. That's why I will never join top 20 AQ alliances because I want to have fun with the game.

TheTalents · May 2022

Pikolu said:
For the sake of top players, do not calculate prestige by top 10 ranks. If you watch KT1s video of him ranking Thor Rags, he absolutely hates doing that, but he does it for the alliance. After 5 rank ups, they are free to rank the champs they find fun. However, if we make it 10, then you have to rank the top 10 prestige champs first, or you're getting kicked. It is a very cutthroat world being in top alliances. That's why I will never join top 20 AQ alliances because I want to have fun with the game.

It's not that bad. You just have to do 5 rankups. Doom, Herc, and Omega Sentinel is apart of the 5 so its only 2 real terrible rankups. The rest you were going to do eventually anyways.

HungaryHippo · May 2022

Worknprogress said:
People actually think this is a new situation and the same thing wasn't happening with 5*s when they were still top?

It is different tbh. Back then, stones were not as common as they are now. Every month you get deals or side quests that give 6* stones. All new “hard content” also gives generic stones and people are becoming wiser and saving said signature stones for when the new prestige champs come out; they obtain them and instantly take them to sig 200.

Worknprogress · May 2022

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:
People actually think this is a new situation and the same thing wasn't happening with 5*s when they were still top?
It is different tbh. Back then, stones were not as common as they are now. Every month you get deals or side quests that give 6* stones. All new “hard content” also gives generic stones and people are becoming wiser and saving said signature stones for when the new prestige champs come out; they obtain them and instantly take them to sig 200.

It definitely is not different. I was in an alliance ranked #1-2 around end of 2019 to beginning of 2020 which was when the focus was starting to shift to 6*s. Alliance prestige was even tighter then than it is now by a large margin.

Even at the top you don't get 30 people that can get a new prestige champ and get them to sign 200 before a new prestige champ ends up coming out.

HungaryHippo · May 2022

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:
People actually think this is a new situation and the same thing wasn't happening with 5*s when they were still top?
It is different tbh. Back then, stones were not as common as they are now. Every month you get deals or side quests that give 6* stones. All new “hard content” also gives generic stones and people are becoming wiser and saving said signature stones for when the new prestige champs come out; they obtain them and instantly take them to sig 200.
It definitely is not different. I was in an alliance ranked #1-2 around end of 2019 to beginning of 2020 which was when the focus was starting to shift to 6*s. Alliance prestige was even tighter then than it is now by a large margin.

Even at the top you don't get 30 people that can get a new prestige champ and get them to sign 200 before a new prestige champ ends up coming out.

I’ve been around a long time too, we probably even played in the same alliance if you were in rank 1-2 back then. I have never seen ally average to be 3 points away from max prestige, let alone TWO alliances reaching that and now being “even”. I believe you’re not in an AQ focused ally atm, so sadly you don’t see the kicking of players to bring in max prestige players. Kicking players who are 15835 because they weren’t able to get Omega Sentinel and bringing in someone else who was. Am I saying it’s a perfect system and that what these alliances is perfect? No, but unfortunately this is what needs to be done to stay at the top. That’s why I’m saying something needs to be done to counteract this, or extend prestige to top 10 champs

Worknprogress · May 2022

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:
People actually think this is a new situation and the same thing wasn't happening with 5*s when they were still top?
It is different tbh. Back then, stones were not as common as they are now. Every month you get deals or side quests that give 6* stones. All new “hard content” also gives generic stones and people are becoming wiser and saving said signature stones for when the new prestige champs come out; they obtain them and instantly take them to sig 200.
It definitely is not different. I was in an alliance ranked #1-2 around end of 2019 to beginning of 2020 which was when the focus was starting to shift to 6*s. Alliance prestige was even tighter then than it is now by a large margin.

Even at the top you don't get 30 people that can get a new prestige champ and get them to sign 200 before a new prestige champ ends up coming out.
I’ve been around a long time too, we probably even played in the same alliance if you were in rank 1-2 back then. I have never seen ally average to be 3 points away from max prestige, let alone TWO alliances reaching that and now being “even”. I believe you’re not in an AQ focused ally atm, so sadly you don’t see the kicking of players to bring in max prestige players. Kicking players who are 15835 because they weren’t able to get Omega Sentinel and bringing in someone else who was. Am I saying it’s a perfect system and that what these alliances is perfect? No, but unfortunately this is what needs to be done to stay at the top. That’s why I’m saying something needs to be done to counteract this, or extend prestige to top 10 champs

Kicking people for not getting champs has always been a thing. Same thing happened when Doom and Surfer came out. That's the nature of the beast at that level of AQ and pretty much everyone should know that going in. There's a reason I have absolutely zero interest in ever returning to it. I think extending prestige to 10 champs is a terrible idea. That puts too much pressure to get too many undesirable champs to max sig bc at the end of the day you'll have the same exact situation just with the pressure to get and sig twice as many champs and deep down you know that if you're at that level.

HungaryHippo · May 2022

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:
People actually think this is a new situation and the same thing wasn't happening with 5*s when they were still top?
It is different tbh. Back then, stones were not as common as they are now. Every month you get deals or side quests that give 6* stones. All new “hard content” also gives generic stones and people are becoming wiser and saving said signature stones for when the new prestige champs come out; they obtain them and instantly take them to sig 200.
It definitely is not different. I was in an alliance ranked #1-2 around end of 2019 to beginning of 2020 which was when the focus was starting to shift to 6*s. Alliance prestige was even tighter then than it is now by a large margin.

Even at the top you don't get 30 people that can get a new prestige champ and get them to sign 200 before a new prestige champ ends up coming out.
I’ve been around a long time too, we probably even played in the same alliance if you were in rank 1-2 back then. I have never seen ally average to be 3 points away from max prestige, let alone TWO alliances reaching that and now being “even”. I believe you’re not in an AQ focused ally atm, so sadly you don’t see the kicking of players to bring in max prestige players. Kicking players who are 15835 because they weren’t able to get Omega Sentinel and bringing in someone else who was. Am I saying it’s a perfect system and that what these alliances is perfect? No, but unfortunately this is what needs to be done to stay at the top. That’s why I’m saying something needs to be done to counteract this, or extend prestige to top 10 champs
Kicking people for not getting champs has always been a thing. Same thing happened when Doom and Surfer came out. That's the nature of the beast at that level of AQ and pretty much everyone should know that going in. There's a reason I have absolutely zero interest in ever returning to it. I think extending prestige to 10 champs is a terrible idea. That puts too much pressure to get too many undesirable champs to max sig bc at the end of the day you'll have the same exact situation just with the pressure to get and sig twice as many champs and deep down you know that if you're at that level.

This is why I think it would be a good idea, for the reasons you think it’s a bad one. Players would be forced to really look at their accounts and wonder if they want 10 prestigious champs with 1/2 of them being useless, or do they want to finally have fun on their accounts and rank up who they want/need for content. I doubt people want to use 2000 stones to get 10 champs at max sig/prestige only to keep number 1 in AQ

NastyPhish · May 2022

See, the problem is you said prestige…

DNA3000 · May 2022

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:
People actually think this is a new situation and the same thing wasn't happening with 5*s when they were still top?
It is different tbh. Back then, stones were not as common as they are now. Every month you get deals or side quests that give 6* stones. All new “hard content” also gives generic stones and people are becoming wiser and saving said signature stones for when the new prestige champs come out; they obtain them and instantly take them to sig 200.
It definitely is not different. I was in an alliance ranked #1-2 around end of 2019 to beginning of 2020 which was when the focus was starting to shift to 6*s. Alliance prestige was even tighter then than it is now by a large margin.

Even at the top you don't get 30 people that can get a new prestige champ and get them to sign 200 before a new prestige champ ends up coming out.
I’ve been around a long time too, we probably even played in the same alliance if you were in rank 1-2 back then. I have never seen ally average to be 3 points away from max prestige, let alone TWO alliances reaching that and now being “even”. I believe you’re not in an AQ focused ally atm, so sadly you don’t see the kicking of players to bring in max prestige players. Kicking players who are 15835 because they weren’t able to get Omega Sentinel and bringing in someone else who was. Am I saying it’s a perfect system and that what these alliances is perfect? No, but unfortunately this is what needs to be done to stay at the top. That’s why I’m saying something needs to be done to counteract this, or extend prestige to top 10 champs
Kicking people for not getting champs has always been a thing. Same thing happened when Doom and Surfer came out. That's the nature of the beast at that level of AQ and pretty much everyone should know that going in. There's a reason I have absolutely zero interest in ever returning to it. I think extending prestige to 10 champs is a terrible idea. That puts too much pressure to get too many undesirable champs to max sig bc at the end of the day you'll have the same exact situation just with the pressure to get and sig twice as many champs and deep down you know that if you're at that level.
This is why I think it would be a good idea, for the reasons you think it’s a bad one. Players would be forced to really look at their accounts and wonder if they want 10 prestigious champs with 1/2 of them being useless, or do they want to finally have fun on their accounts and rank up who they want/need for content. I doubt people want to use 2000 stones to get 10 champs at max sig/prestige only to keep number 1 in AQ

It sounds like you're saying you hate the prestige race, so your goal is to make it worse so everyone else agrees with you. That is a very thermonuclear game design philosophy.

ThatGuyYouSaw235 · May 2022

who cares about prestige

I want everyone to see my r3 air-walker on my profile

BuggyDClown · May 2022

Totally achievable for FTPs and getting into top alliances

Deacon · May 2022

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:
People actually think this is a new situation and the same thing wasn't happening with 5*s when they were still top?
It is different tbh. Back then, stones were not as common as they are now. Every month you get deals or side quests that give 6* stones. All new “hard content” also gives generic stones and people are becoming wiser and saving said signature stones for when the new prestige champs come out; they obtain them and instantly take them to sig 200.
It definitely is not different. I was in an alliance ranked #1-2 around end of 2019 to beginning of 2020 which was when the focus was starting to shift to 6*s. Alliance prestige was even tighter then than it is now by a large margin.

Even at the top you don't get 30 people that can get a new prestige champ and get them to sign 200 before a new prestige champ ends up coming out.
I’ve been around a long time too, we probably even played in the same alliance if you were in rank 1-2 back then. I have never seen ally average to be 3 points away from max prestige, let alone TWO alliances reaching that and now being “even”. I believe you’re not in an AQ focused ally atm, so sadly you don’t see the kicking of players to bring in max prestige players. Kicking players who are 15835 because they weren’t able to get Omega Sentinel and bringing in someone else who was. Am I saying it’s a perfect system and that what these alliances is perfect? No, but unfortunately this is what needs to be done to stay at the top. That’s why I’m saying something needs to be done to counteract this, or extend prestige to top 10 champs
Kicking people for not getting champs has always been a thing. Same thing happened when Doom and Surfer came out. That's the nature of the beast at that level of AQ and pretty much everyone should know that going in. There's a reason I have absolutely zero interest in ever returning to it. I think extending prestige to 10 champs is a terrible idea. That puts too much pressure to get too many undesirable champs to max sig bc at the end of the day you'll have the same exact situation just with the pressure to get and sig twice as many champs and deep down you know that if you're at that level.

I echo this COMPLETELY and it's one of the reasons I would never as well ... I totally get it but it turns the fun upside down and you're more a business than playing a game. Prestige is cool but I mix it with fun first in my alliance and we don't make demands on rank ups and I gotta say I'm enjoying the game more than ever. (bugs and shat gameplay withstanding LOL)

Lovejoy72 · May 2022

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:
who cares about prestige

I want everyone to see my r3 air-walker on my profile

In an insane world, this becomes the only sane response.

Lovejoy72 · May 2022

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:

HungaryHippo said:

Worknprogress said:
People actually think this is a new situation and the same thing wasn't happening with 5*s when they were still top?
It is different tbh. Back then, stones were not as common as they are now. Every month you get deals or side quests that give 6* stones. All new “hard content” also gives generic stones and people are becoming wiser and saving said signature stones for when the new prestige champs come out; they obtain them and instantly take them to sig 200.
It definitely is not different. I was in an alliance ranked #1-2 around end of 2019 to beginning of 2020 which was when the focus was starting to shift to 6*s. Alliance prestige was even tighter then than it is now by a large margin.

Even at the top you don't get 30 people that can get a new prestige champ and get them to sign 200 before a new prestige champ ends up coming out.
I’ve been around a long time too, we probably even played in the same alliance if you were in rank 1-2 back then. I have never seen ally average to be 3 points away from max prestige, let alone TWO alliances reaching that and now being “even”. I believe you’re not in an AQ focused ally atm, so sadly you don’t see the kicking of players to bring in max prestige players. Kicking players who are 15835 because they weren’t able to get Omega Sentinel and bringing in someone else who was. Am I saying it’s a perfect system and that what these alliances is perfect? No, but unfortunately this is what needs to be done to stay at the top. That’s why I’m saying something needs to be done to counteract this, or extend prestige to top 10 champs
Kicking people for not getting champs has always been a thing. Same thing happened when Doom and Surfer came out. That's the nature of the beast at that level of AQ and pretty much everyone should know that going in. There's a reason I have absolutely zero interest in ever returning to it. I think extending prestige to 10 champs is a terrible idea. That puts too much pressure to get too many undesirable champs to max sig bc at the end of the day you'll have the same exact situation just with the pressure to get and sig twice as many champs and deep down you know that if you're at that level.

I run an alliance that’s just me and my six alts. I still worry about getting kicked for prestige.

Hammerbro_64 · May 2022

SCZ said:
4* electro used to be the ish

I used to think some alliances were hackers because everyone was either electro or ultron lol

Edit: I also ended up getting confused at why ppl seemed to rank up electro that much if he was only good to put on AWD (granted for the time that is enough reason)

TheTalents · May 2022

I actually have to agree with @HungaryHippo on this one. The prestige race has never been this tight at the top. There's never been a time where multiple alliances have reached the max prestige this early. I think Kabam is giving way to much overall too quickly. Which is why I said July 4th will probably have r5 material sold in it to attract the whales.

But I disagree with the notion of top 10 prestige race. With the current prestige race you can sellout with 2-3 bad champs for max prestige depending on your perspective because OS, Hercules, and Doom are not bad rank ups. (Doom maybe if you run strictly suicides) After the top 5 you can rank whomever you want but a top 10 will be doubling that process. More money for Kabam potentially but horrible results for those of us competing because the top 10 take our players constantly as well.

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Worknprogress · May 2022

TheTalents said:
I actually have to agree with @HungaryHippo on this one. The prestige race has never been this tight at the top. There's never been a time where multiple alliances have reached the max prestige this early. I think Kabam is giving way to much overall too quickly. Which is why I said July 4th will probably have r5 material sold in it to attract the whales.

But I disagree with the notion of top 10 prestige race. With the current prestige race you can sellout with 2-3 bad champs for max prestige depending on your perspective because OS, Hercules, and Doom are not bad rank ups. (Doom maybe if you run strictly suicides) After the top 5 you can rank whomever you want but a top 10 will be doubling that process. More money for Kabam potentially but horrible results for those of us competing because the top 10 take our players constantly as well.

There are currently 0 alliances with max prestige right now so not really sure what you're talking about.

TheTalents · May 2022

There's two alliances with 15,841 rating and are 3 points from max. If you want to take a victory lap off a 3 point difference out of 15,844 go for it lol.

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