I’m surprised so many are against getting stuff like T4B and T4CC from dailies. Both of which are used to rank 6*s. I love getting them as a steady income of those resources.
Re: objective crystals, yeah they should get an update for Thronebreaker players and potentially Paragon players.
Personally, not against it per se, but T4 level cats should be full cats at that level. That wouldn’t be a heavy lift as an improvement.
Dr. Zola
I think it was phrased poorly before, but I think the answer to that is just push to the next level. Get Paragon and increase your amounts.
First you didn’t like T4cc and T4B being in Daily’s, now it’s the amount. I appreciate wanting more, but daily’s are just rewards for logging in. You’re doing very little, for generally a few T4B, T4C and T2A in an average week. Sometimes you get T5B or other rarer drops. But it is just logging in at the end of the day.
I’d support a push to get objective crystals updated to today’s game, but buffing a free daily crystal that requires no effort? I’m afraid you’ve lost me there.
It’s probably buried in my comments (and thread title) above, but it’s more than just that. There is a host things that need tweaking, not only the Daily. Fleshing out TB level objectives is one, updated EQ another.
I’m surprised so many are against getting stuff like T4B and T4CC from dailies. Both of which are used to rank 6*s. I love getting them as a steady income of those resources.
Re: objective crystals, yeah they should get an update for Thronebreaker players and potentially Paragon players.
Personally, not against it per se, but T4 level cats should be full cats at that level. That wouldn’t be a heavy lift as an improvement.
Dr. Zola
I think it was phrased poorly before, but I think the answer to that is just push to the next level. Get Paragon and increase your amounts.
First you didn’t like T4cc and T4B being in Daily’s, now it’s the amount. I appreciate wanting more, but daily’s are just rewards for logging in. You’re doing very little, for generally a few T4B, T4C and T2A in an average week. Sometimes you get T5B or other rarer drops. But it is just logging in at the end of the day.
I’d support a push to get objective crystals updated to today’s game, but buffing a free daily crystal that requires no effort? I’m afraid you’ve lost me there.
It’s probably buried in my comments (and thread title) above, but it’s more than just that. There is a host things that need tweaking, not only the Daily. Fleshing out TB level objectives is one, updated EQ another.
Dr. Zola
I agree there are some that need fleshing out, but my point is you lose me with the TB daily.
Anyone else having dejavu? I remember reading near identical threads complaining about Cav dailies when TB dailies were introduced. In a year or two, there will likely be another near identical thread complaining about the paragon dailies.
Anyone else having dejavu? I remember reading near identical threads complaining about Cav dailies when TB dailies were introduced. In a year or two, there will likely be another near identical thread complaining about the paragon dailies.
yea..this was one of them where the OP understood the dailies are mainly geared for the early Cav crystals. But now that Paragon is out he wants TB upgraded..funny that
I actually scrolled through most of this, but i agree with OP. T4 basic just doesn’t do it for me. Been pulling that **** mostly for a year. Maybe 2-3 t 5 basic during that time. Just underwhelming..
@TimeGenesis and @Chatterofforums Understood, yes. Agreed with it, no. And if you do some more forums digging, you will find I’ve suggested tweaks to TB dailies and other perqs long before Paragon was even a sly twinkle in Miike’s eye.
I make the same point now about TB dailies (and other aspects of TB) that I did about Cav dailies then—they mainly exist to entice players to push for the next title and turn out to be less enticing and less useful as time goes on. Honestly, both should get an upgrade, even if it’s a small one. MCoC is not remotely the same game it was 4ish years ago when much of this title progression stuff began.
Also: A pivotal difference I think between Cav and TB is that things like Cav objectives and Cav EQ and Cav crystals came along with the Cav dailies that formed a part of becoming Cavalier. TB has had a less comprehensive set of perqs. and events tailored to it. It wasn’t nearly as bad as the Elder’s Bane title, which was basically ignored by the team although at the time it was a solid accomplishment.
a TB daily buff might not be necessary but i think there should be thronebreaker objective crystals. Right now everyone above cav gets cav objective crystals
My biggest annoyance on this topic would be the cavalier daily/weekly objectives/crystals.
We’re now 2 progression titles past these and they haven’t been touched since they were implemented (unless someone can correct me?). They’re outdated and long overdue a refresh.
I’m fine with the current thronebreaker daily/4h crystals
Finally! DrZola can be critical of the current state of affairs, while everywhere possible new "long awaited" content is released and micro-managed for the current "economy".
Imo for me, 6-7 year player i; ve seen skill & roster change to the game on itself being optional, and moved towards mainly focused on transactions. nonono not that F2P and cash players discussion, i am actually talking about transactions in general, those define progress in MCOC, even kabam stated that the new progression title "has been calculated on offers that have been given so that even free to play players? 0,01% also are paragon"
then this offer (yea mistake) happend, also release the title before spring deals? explain to me how this is still anywhere possible related to skill, progression ingame.
I am invested and hope for real change, the burning fire for this game has turned in to a candle light that will eventually get burned out.
some people are commenting as if Paragon has been fully fleshed out. It hasn't and it likely won't before the next progression comes. I suspect we won't see anymore fleshing of TB and won't see much beyond a new daily for Paragon.
I think the new progressions will mostly be about what objectives you get access to going forward.
Why do “TB” materials tend to grow less useful to TBs? One theme that seems to permeate things in game is that the rewards you get are precisely what would have helped you get the level you recently obtained. It often feels like a problem of “too little too late.”
As an example, why do TBs get Cav crystals and shards? What is there so much useless junk in TB dailies? Why are there no TB events? Why is there no TB level of quests? Why do I get Grandmaster shards?
I realize Paragon is the new thing. I’m fine that Paragons gets things TBs don’t. But it would be logical if TB had actually been fleshed out before the team created their next monetization point. It hasn’t been.
TBH Dr. Zola the paragon dailies ain't so great either (so far) - all I've gotten are random t4cc which I guess is decent as there's a shortage... but the upgrade has been that from getting half a t4cc as thronebreaker 8/10 dailies. I never got the 10k 6* shards once while being TB and I doubt I'll get it as a paragon lol.
TBH Dr. Zola the paragon dailies ain't so great either (so far) - all I've gotten are random t4cc which I guess is decent as there's a shortage... but the upgrade has been that from getting half a t4cc as thronebreaker 8/10 dailies. I never got the 10k 6* shards once while being TB and I doubt I'll get it as a paragon lol.
So in summary things are better but not by much.
Think your luck has been bad, my paragons have been great. On my pulls I've got a whole t2a, twice 6* champs, and twice 4,500 t5c shards
TBH Dr. Zola the paragon dailies ain't so great either (so far) - all I've gotten are random t4cc which I guess is decent as there's a shortage... but the upgrade has been that from getting half a t4cc as thronebreaker 8/10 dailies. I never got the 10k 6* shards once while being TB and I doubt I'll get it as a paragon lol.
So in summary things are better but not by much.
Think your luck has been bad, my paragons have been great. On my pulls I've got a whole t2a, twice 6* champs, and twice 4,500 t5c shards
Dang, that's pretty unlucky mate. I got 9k science t5cc from my first paragon daily. The rest was been either full t2a, or 27k t2a shards lol.
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It is all tiered for brand new “breakers”.
I could see it being pretty lame in a year.
think those should get a mini buff as well to be honest
yea..this was one of them where the OP understood the dailies are mainly geared for the early Cav crystals. But now that Paragon is out he wants TB upgraded..funny that
I make the same point now about TB dailies (and other aspects of TB) that I did about Cav dailies then—they mainly exist to entice players to push for the next title and turn out to be less enticing and less useful as time goes on. Honestly, both should get an upgrade, even if it’s a small one. MCoC is not remotely the same game it was 4ish years ago when much of this title progression stuff began.
Also: A pivotal difference I think between Cav and TB is that things like Cav objectives and Cav EQ and Cav crystals came along with the Cav dailies that formed a part of becoming Cavalier. TB has had a less comprehensive set of perqs. and events tailored to it. It wasn’t nearly as bad as the Elder’s Bane title, which was basically ignored by the team although at the time it was a solid accomplishment.
Dr. Zola
We’re now 2 progression titles past these and they haven’t been touched since they were implemented (unless someone can correct me?). They’re outdated and long overdue a refresh.
I’m fine with the current thronebreaker daily/4h crystals
Imo for me, 6-7 year player i; ve seen skill & roster change to the game on itself being optional, and moved towards mainly focused on transactions. nonono not that F2P and cash players discussion, i am actually talking about transactions in general, those define progress in MCOC, even kabam stated that the new progression title "has been calculated on offers that have been given so that even free to play players? 0,01% also are paragon"
then this offer (yea mistake) happend, also release the title before spring deals? explain to me how this is still anywhere possible related to skill, progression ingame.
I am invested and hope for real change, the burning fire for this game has turned in to a candle light that will eventually get burned out.
Input issues fixed?; sigh..
I think the new progressions will mostly be about what objectives you get access to going forward.
So in summary things are better but not by much.
But that's easier said than done.
With a budget of 0 dollars, at least.
First 6 paragon crystals. Not awful.
Seriously, the one thing I still find disappointing is that 6* dupes don’t reward at least some sig stones, in the Paragon or elsewhere.
Dr. Zola