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All I see is a F2p event taken away from community.
Nobody care if whales get free stuff when they have millions of gold already. They already get whatever they want, this will be a drop in ocean for them. And Im pretty sure everyone would like some offers even if they are a whale.
I personally have 0 issues when p2w players get more things. They are ahead regardless of these free (not monetory) offers.
Whereas for f2ps who do grind the game every day these offers were substantial.
We f2ps dont take these opportunities lighty.
Even a r2-3 gem have great value for me(even when im a good place among higher rated f2p)
I am an arena grinder, and i have ZERO issues with gold spend. my gold hasnt budged AFTER many rankups and i am still sitting at 13million bcs, and 60 million gold. The fact that you cant keep up with gold spend is your issue. WHy not leave it to the player to make the decision?
This is such a terrible way to respond to people and it's not even the worst. Do better.
Not like I'm not constantly at a unit shortage (sometimes cannot even buy energy refills to PLAY the game) yet the game is pumping those offers out every 2 days.
Just like people who buy cav crystals whenever they get 300 units or people who don't save up units waiting for the cyber weekend and July 4 deals, people with less gold than they desire CAN CHOOSE to not buy the offers this year and rank up their current champs. With the gold deals not being offered this year, summoners don't have the ability to choose if they want to spend their gold on offers or not. The OP, from one point of view, makes sense but I don't see them taking this point into consideration.
I only rank what I intend to use somewhere within the game. Catalysts are my roadblock, not Gold or ISO. If ISO is expiring in my stash I sell it instead of ranking a champ I won't use and burning up short supply catalysts in the process.
My ISO stash is over 1.2k bricks and with a good deal of that being class t6. My Gold is currently at 52 million and climbing. OPs original post is not relevant to me at all.
This sums up the main factor in why I think you're wrong. You have not allowed for the fact that using gold to buy offers is not entirely bad. You are not able to look at it in black and white, point at it and say this is a bad decision for the entire player-base. You may be able to do it for yourself, but it is not your place, or Kabam's to say that it is a bad decision.
Using the wrong class ISO is a bit of an unfair comparison, that is objectively and mathematically worse, you get zero tangible benefit from doing this. Selling ISO is similarly unfair, though there is a slight tangible benefit of ranking a champion quicker - maybe you need them for time sensitive content - but assuming it's only to rank for the sake of ranking, yes, there's no tangible benefit so not a fair comparison.
Buying deals with gold is not that. It is a trade-off, lose gold now, gain materials and/or champions now, get gold back later. Some players may think that's more bad than good, and not buy it. Some may think it's more good than bad and buy it. Some may have millions of gold and not even think twice. Can you see why your opinion is getting taken so badly? Because it seems like you're coming from a perspective as holier than thou and essentially decreeing it as bad for all - when it quite clearly isn't. It just seems a little patronising. I don't have much gold, but I can grind it in Arena, I have many champions ranked up and basically never *need* someone ranked up ASAP so I can take the short term hit of not ranking. I am one person, but you can see from this thread that I'm not alone in thinking it is a good decision.
Comparing buying deals that would have rank up gems for 2-3, 6* Nexus, potentially awakening gems etc to selling ISO for gold? To using the wrong class ISO and losing gold for no reason? Do you see why they're not the same situation at all?
I'm not saying the majority of the playerbase will have enough gold, but the majority of players don't have 18k units hanging around, and we aren't getting rid of J4th and Cyberweekend in case of FOMO or a short term hit to units. (For what it's worth, I personally don't think you should compare units to gold, as they're very different resources, but you did compare them first and say that the gold offers and J4th offers are forced deficiencies, then went on to compare them in many more ways to make your points - I'm working off the examples you've given there)
I also think you're guilty of having your cake and eating it in regard to one point, when people in this thread bring up that they have a lot of gold you say words to the effect of "You're in the minority, not representative of the whole", and yet you use people who complain about not being able to use the resources as an example of why the offers are bad. I would be interested to see if you had any examples of those threads on the forum, and we could see if they were received well - I suspect they wouldn't have been.
In fact, after writing the above I decided to go and check for myself. I found this thread complaining they didn't have resources for levelling up after buying the offers
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/283752/problem-with-gold-offer
Another example: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/284354/gold-scarcity-is-back/p1
Someone complaining they had no gold after spending it on the offers. 57:2 ratio.
Fairly unanimous in reception - most people thought the OP was being silly. But I'm open to seeing another side of it if you have any examples of people complaining and it being received well. If not, it seems that they are definitely the minority and therefore by your own logic should be discounted.
Not to mention, in the same way that not many have 18k units lying around, we don't get rid of J4th because those 18k players are in the minority.
The gold influxes may point to you being right about a gold shortage, but it does not point to you being right about it being good that the gold offers haven't come or whether Kabam did it specifically because of that. It's a very itnteresting point I hadn't thought of - that last year there was no shortage but this year there is, so that's why Kabam aren't doing the offers, but claiming it makes you 100% right? That's adding 2+2 and coming up with 18k. We don't know why Kabam haven't added the gold offers, and you may be right that it's because of a gold shortage but it is absolutely not proved by anything you've mentioned here, and even if that's the case, it doesn't mean that you or Kabam are *right* in saying that it's 100% bad for people - it's their choice to make. As I said in the last post, it's an interesting take (I don't think you're trolling, I don't think it's dumb, I just personally don't agree), and it's an interesting theory. Is it true? Who knows? We definitely don't, but Kabam do - though I doubt they'd tell us.
I also think you've missed my point on getting more gold vs getting more great champions. Yes, I accept your point on getting more champions recently. But what you haven't accepted is I can always, always guarantee myself gold. You do content, you get gold. I can always fill up the hole in my gold vault. I know how long it will take me; I know where I can go to get that. With regards to champions, I cannot guarantee myself that. I could get myself 4 champions I want to R4 in a fortnight, or I could be waiting 6 months for one.
You ask almost any player whether they'd rather 10m gold or one top, top tier champion they'd take the latter. You ask players whether they would rather 10m gold or a bunch of Materials and chances at top tier champions and it's a harder answer, but it's still a choice; and that proves *me* right, because to go back to the beginning of this post, it is not your decision whether something is bad for the player or not. They can make that call themselves.
You're also not taking into account extra grinding. If I have 5 million gold and decide not to get the offers, I won't do extra arena or incursions because of that. If I however decide to sell some ISO, do arena hard for 4-5 days between the announcement and when the offers end, and just get to 10m then that's extra grinding I wouldn't have done anyway. And once that's done, I'd do extra grinding after the event to make up for what was lost.
As one last point, I mean this with the greatest respect (as I have listened to the podcast for a long time and really enjoyed it), I'm just a little disappointed with the way you're addressing people's comments. This may well be a case of reading text not coming across well, and you mean it all with the greatest of intentions, but a few of your responses have come across pretty passive aggressive or dismissive. (Of course, discounting any that are you replying to actually rude comments). I just feel that it adds to this tone of superiority to how this thread reads. As though you have no doubt at all that you're 100% right, and everyone else is just slow. Saying things like "But that's okay, not everyone's arguments can be based in math" does not lend you any favours, it won't persuade anyone of anything.
2) Gold may be advancing, but Kabam is aware. The gold “shortage” is not a new topic. If Kabam deemed it necessary to adjust the economy of gold, they would do it. However, seeing how no major adjustments have been made since the permanent 30% boost to crystals, the devs think it’s fine how gold is at the moment
Plus factor in people asking the gold question AHEAD of the deadpool event in the anticipation of any repeat offers like last year.
I can respect your opinion and appreciate the time and data you have aggregated to make your point, but the whole idea of it is not cost effective for Dragonfei, too expensive for Dragonfei, Dragonfei doesn't find the value in it, etc therefore Kabam should NOT even offer it... 🧐 If only everyone was like you and Kabam made all the offers to make everyone the same...
If this were the case, many would not be playing this game. I prefer options. Do they need to be infinite - absolutely not but I can appreciate the opportunity for each of us to evaluate offers and decide for ourselves if it's worth snatching up (whether it takes time, money, resources, etc to get). I love the freedom to choose for myself and let others do exactly the same.
As a crazy F2P with a lot of gold, I personally would have loved to have similar Deadpool Gold offers that existed last year. I'm not butt hurt that it wasn't repeated and I appreciated the new offers this year (many of which I did not participate in).
So many offers I look at and just ignore and let pass buy while others see them differently and snatch up. Everyone can have their own opinion about the weird, stupid, crazy, expensive, cheap, and totally awesome offers that Kabam may put out there but to say they should NOT give the option because it doesn't fit for you... I just cannot ever get on board with that. Repeating the prior years offer, making something similar to it or making additional offers is a good thing because it gives us the option, individually, to choose if it may be right and fun for us in this game. 🤘🏼
And you can become enough gold to rank up champs !
And you dont have to level up a champ instantly , you have time
It doesnt matter if you lose gold , you get gold from everything !
I am a free to play player, hope there is something i can use my gold😞
Ready to r4 another 22 champs straight from r1. I do have the iso as well since I am sitting on 1mil PHC shards and about 300+ 4 star crystals. What’s lacking are the rank up materials and more importantly the good champs worthy of rank up. You see how flawed your argument is OP?
Ofers of all kinds (cash, unit, gold) should be available throughout the year and players should have the option to use their own discretion in what offers they will get, whether f2p or not, and how they use (or waste if you're of that opinion) their resources.
In what proportion these different types of offers appear is dependent on the game developers - they would want more cash than virtual resources naturally, but having no offers of one type, assuming the premise that doing so would harm too many accounts is not a take I agree with.
You had a well thought out opinion and take on the lack of these offers. I'm sure you didn't expect everyone to agree with you- stop trying so hard to convince everyone you're correct. There's no right or wrong here- just people who like or dislike Kabam's decision. And I add myself to those who dislike it.
First of all, Kabam's choice and your take, pang too much of someone telling me how I should enjoy this game- how I should think, feel, and choose to approach it. Very few will like that. I'm an average-good player in every way. I'm in an average alliance with an average roster, and just because I like this game enough to play a bit every day (my wife would say too much) I haven't had to worry about gold for ages. I hover around 25 million no matter what I do or who I rank up. It dips down briefly, and then it's right back up there. I was very much looking forward to the possibility of the gold deals. And I know a feeling is very abstract, but it certainly felt like Kabam was headed toward the same or similar gold offers again this year. It certainly seemed there were plenty of opportunities to acquire and focus on gold if you chose to. But if people choose not to focus, play enough, save/allocate their gold, their whining or complaining shouldn't ruin it for everyone. Occasionally there's a big units offer that pops up and if you're prepared with units, great- if you're not, maybe next time. "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity". We were given no opportunity, so I doubt anyone is feeling very lucky right now!