Spidey EOP without Spidey Supreme
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How hard is the Spidey EOP without Spidey Supreme (I’m planning on going right path btw). Would left path be better? I hate the dragon man fight with a passion so I’m trying to avoid that path.
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Hercules: Used CGR, 1 revive (and many many restarts)
Havok: CGR, 4 revives
Warlock: CGR, 3 revives
Nick Fury: Stark Spidey, 2 revives
MODOK: Miles, 7 revives (that went terribly, it should have been less than 4)
Blade: Miles, 0 revives
Terrax: Stark Spidey, 4 revives
Dragon Man: Spidey 2099, 10 revives
Thanos: Spidey 2099, 11 revives
It's possible to solo all the fights, there's videos of all of them done well. It honestly wasn't too bad all things considered. Nick should have been one revive, but I forgot he had clapback before I threw a sp2 and destroyed myself. MODOK and Dragon Man should be cheaper than I did, but I choked hard on those fights. Dragon Man was probably the hardest for me, I had trouble surviving to a sp3 to get the slow up. Thanos really isn't that bad with Spidey 2099, once you get the sp2 wither up his power gain is reversed, and he gets way easier
I did the challenge with a r4 2099, r3 miles and stealthy. Miles can still cheese Kraven. Scorpion can be killed without potions - two sp2, revive, repeat. Peni sucks regardless. I didn’t have gwen or mystic spidey.
Spiderverse Challenge: Herc [subbed for unduped r3 Spidey], r2 Miles, Spidey99 [for Thanos]
Herc for the first 4 again.
Kraven with Miles and Stealthy: I had to switch back and forth between them. I thought the fight would be easy, since Miles could go invisible on unblockable, but I kept getting trapped in his trap or rooted from staying far away. This would also mean I’d die before completing all of his missions [normally got one before dying]. For stealthy, I thought that if I applied the slow pre-fight, it would be easy once I knocked him down with a special. However, I had the same problem with his traps. Chavez I found easier because she had such wide range on her specials and my spideys didn’t to disarm the traps. This was another die and just take off chunks. 20 revives
Scorpion with Stealthy: Pretty easy. I think I did two fights with the slow pre-fight to stop his evade, and two with the debuff that increases critical rating. 5 revives
Ikaris with everyone: I tried everything with him. This was the worst. I couldn’t bait out his specials well, and I think I was only able to bait out 6 heavies for the entire run maybe. The strategy I went in with was get him to 5 energize buffs [more and his specials kill you unless you are a mystic], hit his block to get him to sp1, have him throw his sp1, dash back, hit with a heavy, repeat. It took forever, and I couldn’t do it consistently. So my strategy was rank up Stealth spidey to r4, intercept him with the a five hit combo that would apply the critical damage debuff, hit with another 5 hit combo, try to bait out a special 1, hit with my special one, then pin in the corner and attack until he killed me. If I was doing this fight again, I would bring Mystic Spidey and NOT Spidey99 or Miles [see Thanos note below as I know some may disagree]. 60 revives [and maybe more]
Peni with Miles and Stealth. I could get some missions complete with Peni, but I found Stealth Spidey just hit harder. So I applied the critical damage debuff, try to take down his shield, and once the shield was down, fire my sp1 to get the precision and fury going at the same time and just keep attacking until the shield came back up and I auto-block died. 9 revives
Thanos with everyone: I tried everyone. I brought Spidey99 since many people said he cheeses the fight. What they forget is that I stink with dexing to keep his debuffs going AND you need to get to sp2 to get the whither [I think. I actually just r5 my 5* and max sigged him for this without trying him much. My bad]. I would die well before that. He did have great power control the two times I pulled it off, but I died before I could take any real benefit from it. Miles was good because in camo mode he could dodge some of the specials that I didn’t accurately dex. I used everyone to use up my team revives. I thought Stealthy would be great for the end phase as I could apply the slow debuff, but the slow debuff didn’t stop the unstoppable. He would come back from his sp3 with the slow debuff and unstoppable [probably me not understanding something] so I switched to the critical damage debuff. The rest is the same as the other Thanos notes.
If this helps at all, this is a recap of my experience with the Spider challenge, no Spidey Supreme. I went left. If you’re bringing Miles, and especially if you have yet to do the left path, I would recommend going in that direction just because of how well he counters Modok and Blade. S99 is pretty good for Terrax as well.
Is Spider Ham good for any fights - either side?
Gwen took every fight from then on, the synergy with peni allows her to start fully ramped so she’s hitting hard immediately. She was extremely good for kraven and scorpion. The SP2 stun was giving me a safe heavy attack on kraven after the knockdown to remove the unstoppable and she was by far my heaviest hitter in any run, so the fights were much shorter on average.
Scorpion only took two revives too, just had to parry heavy to start and then keep throwing those SP2s for big damage.
Ikaris was a bit tricker because she’s not mystic. However, if you’re able to push him to the back wall and keep throwing your SP1, the enervate is a huge asset to her in that fight because you can keep him below a bar of power for a considerable amount of time. You just have to try and stop the AI from dashing from a distance to avoid mighty charge. Awkward at first. But did get better later on.
Peni is just bad on every run apart from galan. But Gwen with her high damage was at least able to break through the shield quickly and then land some decent damage on each run. One of the cheaper ones but close encounters will still get you a few times.
I brought 2099 specifically for thanos (he can reverse the power gain and leave him without abilities for most of the fight essentially), but then I went in first with Gwen and she wasn’t far off a solo herself. I messed up towards the end but she’s just as capable of getting a one shot in that fight too. Definitely my cheapest and most fun run at it.
With the left side being the way it is, I chose to do an extra run without the tags just to get the 100% completion. I feel like I saved myself some units/items doing it that way but I was low on options for the a force/mutants objectives.
I have a short video on how you want to do that fight using Miles if you have line?
Kraven - Miles, get him against his wall and he'll throw specials real quick so you can just punish with your heavy. Rinse and repeat. Easy solo.
Scorpion - Starky, build to 10 poise first then parry heavy all the way to sp3, take the damage from not using your sp3 like a true champ then just parry heavy all the way to death. 4 revives used here.
Ikaris - Miles, See above. This one was costly because it took me quite a few tried to get into the right rhythm. 15 revives for this one 😬
Peni - Starky, hit into shield as much as possible to drop it then push to sp2s, his evade mechanic will build up them poise pretty fast then just play aggressively to stay close to her. Used 7 revives here.
Thanos - Spidey99, easily soloable but I messed up a few times and used 5 revives.
Don’t have line but thanks for the offer. I think I understand the general strategy, I just have to try it out now
Update: I did it!
Took me 30 revives + a team revive and tons of potions. Used starky, miles, and Spiderham. Surprisingly the hardest fight was kraven. I kept getting rooted while trying to cheese the fight and lost a ton of health.
1 more until that R5 gem! Don’t have CGR so so im just gonna Galan + Hood it.