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Does Viv Vision need a buff?
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Nobody ever scaled Everest from bottom to top on their first attempt. It took training, practice and understanding. Play the champs as they are, decide if you enjoy them and study the full potential of their kit. Then decide if they’re an investment you want to make. The advice and insight of others is certainly helpful, but the most knowledgeable people involve their own study as the primary factor in their conclusions.
I don’t know if Viv is that great or not because I haven’t played around with mine yet, but I also don’t have certain champs ranked (Quake and Tigra are two examples) because I tried them and do not personally enjoy their play-style even though many of the YouTubers you constantly mention would put them in top tiers. You can validate your opinions with the thoughts of others, just don’t form them there.
You need her a rank or two above other good champs for her to compete with them. That’s not a sign of a champ that will age well with time.
I'm pretty sure that's called being an "askhole".
My SW is eating Sigs just fine. Sometimes it takes patience.
Hopefully the devs are taking note. I really hope she becomes a champ I could invest into as resources are so limited nowadays.
Thank you for your valuable input.
There’s a lot of good into being provided so far, let me summarise:
- she needs awakening to be effective
- she needs high sigs possibly 200 to be effective
- she suffers from long fights
- her base states are somewhat underwhelming
This is invaluable info for the devs to consider her being buffed.
Watched a few videos on her from Lagacy to Karatemike to KT1 and it seems they think the champ is a little underwhelming.
Lagacy had him in the third tier (from top), and said that she has really low “base stats”.
KT1 said she’s “under-tuned”.
Karatemike was probably the most bullish of her, but who isn’t he bullish on? lol..
Anyone been using her?
Do you think she would benefit from a buff?
Genuine question.... after watching those videos, did you take her for a spin? Did you try any of the rotations they used? Did you try any of your own rotations? it's fine to gather information about a champion, but it's also important that you find out what you like or don't like about a champion.
I'll use Silver Centurion as an example. He's not widely seen as the best or worse but he's very good at what his kit allows him to do. Most of the content creators weren't high on him but I have found many, many uses for him in lots of different content.
This is an obvious pattern with you. Most recently with Mantis.
Would you not ask someone who had scaled Everest for advice before setting off yourself?
Think.
Yeah
You asked for advice
People gave it
Now climb the Everest
Well I've been told she isn't as effective without being awakened and 200 sig.
So what now?
You go to auntmai, see if her sig 0, 1, 100, and 200 are desirable to you and then you make your decision.
But how does that tell you what’s it like in actual gameplay?
You use the numbers and the words to figure that out
I’ve been told constantly in this thread to “use the champ”. Now you’re telling me to just read the description and “figure it out”?
Which is it?
Both or either
Its just lunacy reading this thread and you switching your stance every time someone gives you their advice. You went from asking if she needs a buff to saying you have limited resources to saying that she isn't well liked by youtubers and then back to saying she needs a buff and you'll wait. Pick a position and stick with it.
The fact that all of get sucked into your threads thinking that maybe this will be the time we convince Justin2524 to change his mind shows that we are just glutton for punishment. Your posts should come with a PSA warning. Are you also getting paid for saying "resources are limited"?
Best is to look at your roster and see if you need her or not.
Y'guys think we can stop doing this?
Thanks.