What's up with the rapid joining of low-level players?

ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,999 ★★★★★
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I just found out that some players in my alliance had been slacking off, not contributing to AW. So they got kicked. However, as soon as our alliance got some spots open, we were flooded with players who were waaaaaay too low-level for us. We're a pretty causal alliance where people from all over the spectrum of progression titles play together, but these were around the lvl 4-30 range. Probably not even Uncollected yet. Even as a casual alliance, that's way too low for us. But they just kept flooding in. If I kicked someone, they auto-joined a few seconds later and I had to kick them again.

I eventually had to set the alliance to By Request just to stop it from being overrun with people who have no business being there. And to be clear, I don't harbor any ill feelings against any of the people who joined. It just seems like something is wonky with the system.

Does anyone have any fixes for this? I need to have my alliance open for people to join but...jeez.

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  • Malreck04Malreck04 Member Posts: 3,334 ★★★★★
    I mean it’s inevitable that leaving your ally open will fill it with, well, unwanteds. Even if the system was perfect, if someone looked up your alliance manually and then joined, the game has no reason to prevent them, after all, from the perspective of a robot, an alliance is open for a reason, right?

    Always amusing to see people who care about alliance stuff having issues. Can’t remember when I joined my current alliance, and these guys care about as less about what I do as possible.
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,999 ★★★★★
    Malreck04 said:

    I mean it’s inevitable that leaving your ally open will fill it with, well, unwanteds. Even if the system was perfect, if someone looked up your alliance manually and then joined, the game has no reason to prevent them, after all, from the perspective of a robot, an alliance is open for a reason, right?

    Always amusing to see people who care about alliance stuff having issues. Can’t remember when I joined my current alliance, and these guys care about as less about what I do as possible.

    I'm not talking about people joining who turn out to be a bad fit for the alliance in one way or another. Yeah, that happens, but that's something I'm prepared to deal with when I have my alliance open. It's not a problem, or at least not a problem I'd waste a forum post on.

    No, what I am talking about is the game auto-filling my alliance with accounts that has only barely gotten out of the tutorial. Last time I had to leave my alliance open in order to attract new members, it took a while to fill up those six or so spots we had open. Now it took probably five seconds at most. It's just that all of those accounts were useless, and when I kicked them, they just auto-joined back in.

    Imagine an email inbox. Getting the occasional unwanted email is unavoidable but if the spam filter completely broke and you were flooded with all kinds of scams and whatnot, then you'd feel like something was wrong. And that's the situation right now for alliances. It's impossible to attract proper new members because of all of the "spam" accounts.
  • spider_man_guy_123spider_man_guy_123 Member Posts: 162 ★★
    It’s a little broken. I tried to auto join an alliance on my conqueror account and got put in a gold 1 alliance
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,346 ★★★★★
    Ercarret said:

    I just found out that some players in my alliance had been slacking off, not contributing to AW. So they got kicked. However, as soon as our alliance got some spots open, we were flooded with players who were waaaaaay too low-level for us. We're a pretty causal alliance where people from all over the spectrum of progression titles play together, but these were around the lvl 4-30 range. Probably not even Uncollected yet. Even as a casual alliance, that's way too low for us. But they just kept flooding in. If I kicked someone, they auto-joined a few seconds later and I had to kick them again.

    I eventually had to set the alliance to By Request just to stop it from being overrun with people who have no business being there. And to be clear, I don't harbor any ill feelings against any of the people who joined. It just seems like something is wonky with the system.

    Does anyone have any fixes for this? I need to have my alliance open for people to join but...jeez.

    I think a possible solution might be an option where you can choose the level and story progression for your ally (for example uncollected and level 50 means only uncollected players above level 50 can join your ally)
  • GoldenDadGoldenDad Member Posts: 98 ★
    edited June 2023
    Unfortunately the only way to manage this it to keep kicking the small accounts till a bigger account arrives. I think I’ve kicked close to 20 or more at a time. Sometimes takes a few sessions of kicking. It’s time I would have preferred to spend doing other things.

    My support ticket reply said it was working as intended! Been like it for about 2 months now.

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/335323/is-there-an-issue-with-alliance-recruitment

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/336604/issue-with-alliance-matching-for-new-joiners

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/337464/auto-join-alliance-is-terrible-please-fix-asap

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/336122/alliance-auto-filled-with-very-new-players
  • Chuck_FinleyChuck_Finley Member Posts: 1,345 ★★★★★
    GoldenDad said:

    Unfortunately the only way to manage this it to keep kicking the small accounts till a bigger account arrives. I think I’ve kicked close to 20 or more at a time. Sometimes takes a few sessions of kicking. It’s time I would have preferred to spend doing other things.

    My support ticket reply said it was working as intended! Been like it for about 2 months now.

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/335323/is-there-an-issue-with-alliance-recruitment

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/336604/issue-with-alliance-matching-for-new-joiners

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/337464/auto-join-alliance-is-terrible-please-fix-asap

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/336122/alliance-auto-filled-with-very-new-players

    With all due respect Kabam, if this is intended…. Your intention sucks. Reevaluate it and get it fixed.
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 13,211 Guardian
    To complete the cycle, 2 others that were links within links of one above, so 2 more original posts.
    And I’m sure several more prior to these.

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/335318/recruitment-also-bugged-or-changed#latest

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/335204/low-level-bots-joining-alliance-automatically-now#latest

    Has been going on for maybe 2-3 months, at some times more than others, and/or for some alliances more than others.
    (I’ve had some continued open spots, and early on in this problem we used to get a lot joining, lately NOTHING even though still “Open” Ally with open spots).
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,645 ★★★★★
    I have my suspicion they're looking into the parameters for the Auto Join. I did a Survey on it.
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