@Kabam Miike forget about the negative folks in the threads. There’s a lot of constructive stuff in the 16 pages of chat. I think you can save the event by having nice rewards with the unit deals and taking the 5 most often cited suggestions and adding it to the event. The take home for me is the milestones are not juicy enough. Progression based is not ideal IMO. But the login calendar was so awesome we kinda expected milestones to be in sync with the login. Maybe a 6R5 for the final alliance milestone and a 7R2 RU gem for the individual milestone even if you have to raise the spending amount. My personal opinion is that I would rather spend 20,000 units to reach a 6R5 or 7R2 than 7,000 for a generic AG. Now me personally i always get about 1.5M points at the end of the event. But I think people will be happier if the milestones are juicier man. You can still fix this @Kabam Miike You have the power to do so. I’m an optimist. I think you’ll come through.
Can you provide reasoning for why you think progression based milestones would not be ideal?
I can, players that are still Cav/TB or below, usually cant allow themselves spend that amount of units on this events since they need them to keep progressing through the game, either masteries, revives, or whatever the have to spend on, so usually the amount of units used by them on this events are low, so probably most of them wont pass X milestone unless those are spender, which, in this case, are not likely to be lower than Paragon.
The rewards may be either the same or slightly better than last year. But the game economy changed so much that the rewards didn't keep up. It's relative. Therefore the awards are worse than last year.
I hope kabam will provided us an answer, and not ignore us like most of the time
Banquet every previous years make us dream and hope, this year ZEROOO, they forget that, they should go crazy with the rewards because that's the goal of this event right?
If not just rename the event, called it tiny lunch instead of banquet
I hope kabam will provided us an answer, and not ignore us like most of the time
Banquet every previous years make us dream and hope, this year ZEROOO, they forget that, they should go crazy with the rewards because that's the goal of this event right?
If not just rename the event, called it tiny lunch instead of banquet
“The last supper” (although semi-blasphemous) might be more fitting…🤔
I just want to be able to take one 6 to r5 or one 7* to r2. One not multiple
Right you should be able to do that minimum if the “tiny lunch event” just keep up with the game progression from the solo event rewards and/or rank rewards but you won’t be able to with this event unless you buy a ton of crystals. This is a realistic expectation, basic at best, giving the same rewards almost as last year and ignoring the last year of changes in the game are a joke.
Aight guys, i'm gonna summon the keyboard god @DNA3000 what are your thoughts about the current inflation of the game? Specially when it comes to 7*, after CW and now this cold water bucket that we got after the new downgrade ''upgraded'' version of the banquet, it seems like the inflation of the game has a few issues
Aight guys, i'm gonna summon the keyboard god @DNA3000 what are your thoughts about the current inflation of the game? Specially when it comes to 7*, after CW and now this cold water bucket that we got after the new downgrade ''upgraded'' version of the banquet, it seems like the inflation of the game has a few issues
My issue is that, for me, this event does not encourage spending, which after Cyber Week, is a good thing. But it is very disappointing for such a big event to be so lackluster. The rewards are slightly better than a year ago, but that was a year ago, we should be significantly over last years rewards. In the past year we have had 7*, Titan Crystals, Valiant, Necropolis, Act 8.3, r3 7* champs, etc. All of this and the rewards are just ok for what use to be one of the biggest events. I feel that Kabam poured on the rewards a bit too much as we went from r1 7* to r3 7* super quick. The other issue is with Valiant now (I am still Paragon with 1 r3 7*), the disparity between players is vast. We need progression based rewards and some way to get alliance rewards up as well. For me, if we have to have 6* crystals, I would much rather have a featured 6* or even better a featured 6* nexus, but that is because I have almost all the other 6* champs. If I am being honest, it really should be much more 7* focused though. I will still be happy to participate, but won’t be spending anything like I normally would. I am just underwhelmed.
At the end of the day, it's a lose-lose situation for everyone. Players are unhappy and don't spend; Kabam drastically reduces the big windfall they typically get at this time of the year. They can explain the state of the game all they want, but improving the rewards to find a middle ground everyone can be happy with shouldn't be an impossible task. And let's face it, Kabam's bottom line is what truly matters to them, so they should definitely do something about it.
More specifically, the biggest spenders and whales who carry the game are Valiant and to a lesser extent high-end Paragon, and these rewards just don't justify whaling out for them. Not sure if it is possible, and it's most probably too late for this year, but progression-based reward selectors from the banquet crystals would be a decent idea, and/or perhaps progression-based objectives/point thresholds would be good too. The most sought-after resources now are 7* R3 materials, 7* and titan shards, 6* relic materials, and ascension materials, so that should be the focus of rewards for end-game players.
Aight guys, i'm gonna summon the keyboard god @DNA3000 what are your thoughts about the current inflation of the game? Specially when it comes to 7*, after CW and now this cold water bucket that we got after the new downgrade ''upgraded'' version of the banquet, it seems like the inflation of the game has a few issues
i'm not DNAGOD3000 but this is what it looks like:
they exploded out of the gates too fast with 7s and we're already at rank 3 and they need to slow down.
this is how they're slowing things down, by targeting others...pushing TB'er and early paragon progression and nudging veteran paragons to use their units on necropolis exploration instead.
this event is literally geared to TB'ers, early paragons, and the super fat mega blubbery whales.
veteran paragons and valiants already had their noon feeding so it's not for them.
why are we seeing "inflation"? ie. crummy lesser rewards for the same price or higher? because it's not designed for us. same reason why uncollected cyber weekend deals are awful for valiant level players....because it's not meant for us....
There are a lot of comments on wanting more 7-Star Shards or Rank 3 Materials (we were explicit with where you can expect to get the first available R3 7-Stars), and while I understand where you're coming from, nobody wants to live in a world where we burn through 7-Stars in a year and need to introduce 8-Stars in 2024. There will always be taps that are opened slowly, otherwise we end up burning through content and that's not good for the game.
Who’s talking about r3’s… we can’t even R2 a 7* after spending a tremendous amount of units, this event would be great if I would still struggle with OG Storm act 5.2
Anyways, will finish this post and go back to beat Red Guardian in the event quest for 150 shards 7* shards 😎
Aight guys, i'm gonna summon the keyboard god @DNA3000 what are your thoughts about the current inflation of the game? Specially when it comes to 7*, after CW and now this cold water bucket that we got after the new downgrade ''upgraded'' version of the banquet, it seems like the inflation of the game has a few issues
Aight guys, i'm gonna summon the keyboard god @DNA3000 what are your thoughts about the current inflation of the game? Specially when it comes to 7*, after CW and now this cold water bucket that we got after the new downgrade ''upgraded'' version of the banquet, it seems like the inflation of the game has a few issues
i'm not DNAGOD3000 but this is what it looks like:
they exploded out of the gates too fast with 7s and we're already at rank 3 and they need to slow down.
this is how they're slowing things down, by targeting others...pushing TB'er and early paragon progression and nudging veteran paragons to use their units on necropolis exploration instead.
this event is literally geared to TB'ers, early paragons, and the super fat mega blubbery whales.
veteran paragons and valiants already had their noon feeding so it's not for them.
why are we seeing "inflation"? ie. crummy lesser rewards for the same price or higher? because it's not designed for us. same reason why uncollected cyber weekend deals are awful for valiant level players....because it's not meant for us....
I was already concerned when the rewards for the bg brawl were 1 7* rank 3 and i was like ''wait, there's not a single piece of t4 alpha in the game now and we need 3 of them to do a rank 2->3, now someone is getting a full rank 3?'' and i remember some arguments were like ''on it's only 1 guy in the world and etc'' and now, not that much longer, i already have a rank 3 and a lot of other people too NOBODY was asking for a rank 3 before bg brawl, they could've easily offer a rank 2 gem and in addition some of the materials to do a rank 3 but not all of it, people would've been happy I think bg brawl was when things just went off the rail
Could you guys stop acting like this when @Kabam Miike already asked for some constructive feedback and ways to improve this kind of things?
There is no point on keep talking trash about it, if you have anything helpful to say to Kabam so they can do better either before the event starts or at least next time, say it, if not, then be quiet and dont make it worse.
Could you guys stop acting like this when @Kabam Miike already asked for some constructive feedback and ways to improve this kind of things?
There is no point on keep talking trash about it, if you have anything helpful to say to Kabam so they can do better either before the event starts or at least next time, say it, if not, then be quiet and dont make it worse.
Who says what we're saying won't help them? Do you understand that putting a reminder of what happened can raise a red fleg for them to not repeat the same mistake in the future? Constructive feedback it's not just telling them what to do from now on....
Could you guys stop acting like this when @Kabam Miike already asked for some constructive feedback and ways to improve this kind of things?
There is no point on keep talking trash about it, if you have anything helpful to say to Kabam so they can do better either before the event starts or at least next time, say it, if not, then be quiet and dont make it worse.
Ugh… Your message definitely contributed much to the discussion…
The issue and the solution are crystal clear, but only for those who want to listen and “understand”. So if you’re operating a company and there’s an outcry like this, you don’t need to be told 500th time what needs to be done.
Asking for feedback is one thing, actually listening to them is another.
Could you guys stop acting like this when @Kabam Miike already asked for some constructive feedback and ways to improve this kind of things?
There is no point on keep talking trash about it, if you have anything helpful to say to Kabam so they can do better either before the event starts or at least next time, say it, if not, then be quiet and dont make it worse.
Who says what we're saying won't help them? Do you understand that putting a reminder of what happened can raise a red fleg for them to not repeat the same mistake in the future? Constructive feedback it's not just telling them what to do from now on....
Could you guys stop acting like this when @Kabam Miike already asked for some constructive feedback and ways to improve this kind of things?
There is no point on keep talking trash about it, if you have anything helpful to say to Kabam so they can do better either before the event starts or at least next time, say it, if not, then be quiet and dont make it worse.
Ugh… Your message definitely contributed much to the discussion…
The issue and the solution are crystal clear, but only for those who want to listen and “understand”. So if you’re operating a company and there’s an outcry like this, you don’t need to be told 500th time what needs to be done.
Asking for feedback is one thing, actually listening to them is another.
Why feel attacked about what I said? I was talking about the people speculating about reasons on why this happened or directly blaming Kabam and similars
honest question. the banquet wasn't intended for all the angry players. how do you satisfy the angry players without messing up kabam's game targets?
because the GBCs are trash...and there's no way they can be adjusted to satisfy valiants without blowing up the economy. there's no way...
so that leaves adjusting solo or alliance milestones.
what do you want? the current solo milestones are 10-12k units? you want them to add 1 or 2 milestone ranks? and what items do you want? clearly they can't add r3 mats or r3 gems, so we're stuck with r2 stuff or 7* shard acquisition.
so after the current last milestone...7* gifted guardian crystal. we add:
1-2 generic gem for 3k units and titan crystal for another 3k units?
17-18k units for solo milestones....will that make you happy? i don't think it'll hit the economy that bad since the GBCs stay the same. is it worth it though?
only problem with the above is that this is available to all players, which throws off game economy. should uncollected players have access to titan crystals?
or maybe they add the 2 milestones by progression to paragons and valiants...
honest question. the banquet wasn't intended for all the angry players. how do you satisfy the angry players without messing up kabam's game targets?
because the GBCs are trash...and there's no way they can be adjusted to satisfy valiants without blowing up the economy. there's no way...
so that leaves adjusting solo or alliance milestones.
what do you want? the current solo milestones are 10-12k units? you want them to add 1 or 2 milestone ranks? and what items do you want? clearly they can't add r3 mats or r3 gems, so we're stuck with r2 stuff or 7* shard acquisition.
so after the current last milestone...7* gifted guardian crystal. we add:
1-2 generic gem for 3k units and titan crystal for another 3k units?
17-18k units for solo milestones....will that make you happy? i don't think it'll hit the economy that bad since the GBCs stay the same. is it worth it though?
The most obvious answer to the question you have danced around to push your agenda like every other one of your posts is gating the event behind progression. Literally would solve every single issue with the event and no one would complain if paragon and valiants had their own tiers and the current event stayed for thronebreakers and below.
It's not blowing up the game economy to let us have more of the same tier of champs we already have access to. That being 6 star rank 5s. 7 stars in general. And 7 star rank 2s. No one cares about t4a right now for this event. We just want something useful and fun. Whales already have a billion 7 star rank 2s so letting them have more would mean nothing but would also let those who have a few grow out their rosters even more.
honest question. the banquet wasn't intended for all the angry players. how do you satisfy the angry players without messing up kabam's game targets?
because the GBCs are trash...and there's no way they can be adjusted to satisfy valiants without blowing up the economy. there's no way...
so that leaves adjusting solo or alliance milestones.
what do you want? the current solo milestones are 10-12k units? you want them to add 1 or 2 milestone ranks? and what items do you want? clearly they can't add r3 mats or r3 gems, so we're stuck with r2 stuff or 7* shard acquisition.
so after the current last milestone...7* gifted guardian crystal. we add:
1-2 generic gem for 3k units and titan crystal for another 3k units?
17-18k units for solo milestones....will that make you happy? i don't think it'll hit the economy that bad since the GBCs stay the same. is it worth it though?
The most obvious answer to the question you have danced around to push your agenda like every other one of your posts is gating the event behind progression. Literally would solve every single issue with the event and no one would complain if paragon and valiants had their own tiers and the current event stayed for thronebreakers and below.
It's not blowing up the game economy to let us have more of the same tier of champs we already have access to. That being 6 star rank 5s. 7 stars in general. And 7 star rank 2s. No one cares about t4a right now for this event. We just want something useful and fun. Whales already have a billion 7 star rank 2s so letting them have more would mean nothing but would also let those who have a few grow out their rosters even more.
They wouldn't even have to massively overhaul the event for the higher tiers. Just make @Jefechuta 's changes or something like that. Small tweaks to make it more fun and enjoyable for the higher tiers
I feel that they could add some additional tiers to the banquet before it launches, maybe even make them progression based if it isn’t too hard. It is most likely too late to change the GBCs at this point, but it would be a good idea to have some progression based rewards for next year. The extra tiers could include: 1/7* crystal 2/200 T2 Primordial Dust 3/7* class selector crystal 4/2,500 Titan shards 5/7* Nexus 6/7* Base Champs Selector 7/5,000 Titan Shards It doesn’t need to be all of those, but it would be nice to see at least 3-4 additional tiers. They could even do it as a separate solo/alliance event so as to not mess with what is already in place. I am no coder, so I dont know how feasible it is, but having some of these additional milestones would definitely encourage more spending, at least it would me and that is all I can speak for.
Could you guys stop acting like this when @Kabam Miike already asked for some constructive feedback and ways to improve this kind of things?
There is no point on keep talking trash about it, if you have anything helpful to say to Kabam so they can do better either before the event starts or at least next time, say it, if not, then be quiet and dont make it worse.
you know the community is all about rage and irrationality when they disagreed with this post 6x without understanding it and realizing that @Jefechuta is the one that wanted rewards buffed and spent a long time making this post
I usually rank high in gifting/banquet. Theres too many items in the crystals now that don't really help. T5b and t2a need to go. There should be progression based crystals for people to target what they want. # of 7* shards is too low. Really not much incentive to buy these. Better to save for next year in my opinion. Sure some will love these items. Whales not so much. But not all offers and events are for all people. So it is what it is. I'm not mad, little disappointed though.
Same old same old. Don’t think they are going to change a thing. It really isn’t that difficult to create a good event that appeals to all players, it is has been noted in many posts. A child could do it. There is really no excuse that is valid by either Kabam or anyone taking their supposed position whatever that maybe, the economy of the game as changed drastically since last year. You can’t just offer the same trash as last year more or less, in both the milestones and ranked rewards on top of trash GBC drops and say oh well its just for one portion of the player base everyone else can go pound sand or don’t play like some of the apologists were indicating. Again not that difficult to scale for different progression levels w/o give away the R3 farm.
Aight guys, i'm gonna summon the keyboard god @DNA3000 what are your thoughts about the current inflation of the game? Specially when it comes to 7*, after CW and now this cold water bucket that we got after the new downgrade ''upgraded'' version of the banquet, it seems like the inflation of the game has a few issues
i'm not DNAGOD3000 but this is what it looks like:
they exploded out of the gates too fast with 7s and we're already at rank 3 and they need to slow down.
this is how they're slowing things down, by targeting others...pushing TB'er and early paragon progression and nudging veteran paragons to use their units on necropolis exploration instead.
this event is literally geared to TB'ers, early paragons, and the super fat mega blubbery whales.
veteran paragons and valiants already had their noon feeding so it's not for them.
why are we seeing "inflation"? ie. crummy lesser rewards for the same price or higher? because it's not designed for us. same reason why uncollected cyber weekend deals are awful for valiant level players....because it's not meant for us....
I was already concerned when the rewards for the bg brawl were 1 7* rank 3 and i was like ''wait, there's not a single piece of t4 alpha in the game now and we need 3 of them to do a rank 2->3, now someone is getting a full rank 3?'' and i remember some arguments were like ''on it's only 1 guy in the world and etc'' and now, not that much longer, i already have a rank 3 and a lot of other people too NOBODY was asking for a rank 3 before bg brawl, they could've easily offer a rank 2 gem and in addition some of the materials to do a rank 3 but not all of it, people would've been happy I think bg brawl was when things just went off the rail
This is true - we really didn't need 7r3 until maybe march/April 2024. They accelerated this economy and now they are desperately trying to slow it down after cashing in on CW.
No serious paragon+ player is asking for 7R3 mats..but 7r2 and 6r4/6r5 mats and more 7* shards would be adequate given where they have pushed things to.
Aight guys, i'm gonna summon the keyboard god @DNA3000 what are your thoughts about the current inflation of the game? Specially when it comes to 7*, after CW and now this cold water bucket that we got after the new downgrade ''upgraded'' version of the banquet, it seems like the inflation of the game has a few issues
i'm not DNAGOD3000 but this is what it looks like:
they exploded out of the gates too fast with 7s and we're already at rank 3 and they need to slow down.
this is how they're slowing things down, by targeting others...pushing TB'er and early paragon progression and nudging veteran paragons to use their units on necropolis exploration instead.
this event is literally geared to TB'ers, early paragons, and the super fat mega blubbery whales.
veteran paragons and valiants already had their noon feeding so it's not for them.
why are we seeing "inflation"? ie. crummy lesser rewards for the same price or higher? because it's not designed for us. same reason why uncollected cyber weekend deals are awful for valiant level players....because it's not meant for us....
I was already concerned when the rewards for the bg brawl were 1 7* rank 3 and i was like ''wait, there's not a single piece of t4 alpha in the game now and we need 3 of them to do a rank 2->3, now someone is getting a full rank 3?'' and i remember some arguments were like ''on it's only 1 guy in the world and etc'' and now, not that much longer, i already have a rank 3 and a lot of other people too NOBODY was asking for a rank 3 before bg brawl, they could've easily offer a rank 2 gem and in addition some of the materials to do a rank 3 but not all of it, people would've been happy I think bg brawl was when things just went off the rail
This is true - we really didn't need 7r3 until maybe march/April 2024. They accelerated this economy and now they are desperately trying to slow it down after cashing in on CW.
No serious paragon+ player is asking for 7R3 mats..but 7r2 and 6r4/6r5 mats and more 7* shards would be adequate given where they have pushed things to.
That’s what I keep saying. I have 20 7R2 but I would still love to 6R5 many champs that I just don’t think Kabam should release as 7 star champs yet. I would love to R5 at least 10 more 6 stars. There are even some in the 7 star pool I would love to 6R5 like Juggernaut, Angela, Havok. 6R5 and 7R2 in the milestones would be great.
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Banquet every previous years make us dream and hope, this year ZEROOO, they forget that, they should go crazy with the rewards because that's the goal of this event right?
If not just rename the event, called it tiny lunch instead of banquet
@DNA3000 what are your thoughts about the current inflation of the game? Specially when it comes to 7*, after CW and now this cold water bucket that we got after the new
downgrade''upgraded'' version of the banquet, it seems like the inflation of the game has a few issuesI feel that Kabam poured on the rewards a bit too much as we went from r1 7* to r3 7* super quick. The other issue is with Valiant now (I am still Paragon with 1 r3 7*), the disparity between players is vast. We need progression based rewards and some way to get alliance rewards up as well. For me, if we have to have 6* crystals, I would much rather have a featured 6* or even better a featured 6* nexus, but that is because I have almost all the other 6* champs. If I am being honest, it really should be much more 7* focused though.
I will still be happy to participate, but won’t be spending anything like I normally would. I am just underwhelmed.
More specifically, the biggest spenders and whales who carry the game are Valiant and to a lesser extent high-end Paragon, and these rewards just don't justify whaling out for them. Not sure if it is possible, and it's most probably too late for this year, but progression-based reward selectors from the banquet crystals would be a decent idea, and/or perhaps progression-based objectives/point thresholds would be good too. The most sought-after resources now are 7* R3 materials, 7* and titan shards, 6* relic materials, and ascension materials, so that should be the focus of rewards for end-game players.
they exploded out of the gates too fast with 7s and we're already at rank 3 and they need to slow down.
this is how they're slowing things down, by targeting others...pushing TB'er and early paragon progression and nudging veteran paragons to use their units on necropolis exploration instead.
this event is literally geared to TB'ers, early paragons, and the super fat mega blubbery whales.
veteran paragons and valiants already had their noon feeding so it's not for them.
why are we seeing "inflation"? ie. crummy lesser rewards for the same price or higher? because it's not designed for us. same reason why uncollected cyber weekend deals are awful for valiant level players....because it's not meant for us....
Anyways, will finish this post and go back to beat Red Guardian in the event quest for 150 shards 7* shards 😎
NOBODY was asking for a rank 3 before bg brawl, they could've easily offer a rank 2 gem and in addition some of the materials to do a rank 3 but not all of it, people would've been happy
I think bg brawl was when things just went off the rail
There is no point on keep talking trash about it, if you have anything helpful to say to Kabam so they can do better either before the event starts or at least next time, say it, if not, then be quiet and dont make it worse.
The issue and the solution are crystal clear, but only for those who want to listen and “understand”. So if you’re operating a company and there’s an outcry like this, you don’t need to be told 500th time what needs to be done.
Asking for feedback is one thing, actually listening to them is another.
because the GBCs are trash...and there's no way they can be adjusted to satisfy valiants without blowing up the economy. there's no way...
so that leaves adjusting solo or alliance milestones.
what do you want? the current solo milestones are 10-12k units? you want them to add 1 or 2 milestone ranks? and what items do you want? clearly they can't add r3 mats or r3 gems, so we're stuck with r2 stuff or 7* shard acquisition.
so after the current last milestone...7* gifted guardian crystal. we add:
1-2 generic gem for 3k units
and
titan crystal for another 3k units?
17-18k units for solo milestones....will that make you happy? i don't think it'll hit the economy that bad since the GBCs stay the same. is it worth it though?
or maybe they add the 2 milestones by progression to paragons and valiants...
It's not blowing up the game economy to let us have more of the same tier of champs we already have access to. That being 6 star rank 5s. 7 stars in general. And 7 star rank 2s. No one cares about t4a right now for this event. We just want something useful and fun. Whales already have a billion 7 star rank 2s so letting them have more would mean nothing but would also let those who have a few grow out their rosters even more.
1/7* crystal
2/200 T2 Primordial Dust
3/7* class selector crystal
4/2,500 Titan shards
5/7* Nexus
6/7* Base Champs Selector
7/5,000 Titan Shards
It doesn’t need to be all of those, but it would be nice to see at least 3-4 additional tiers. They could even do it as a separate solo/alliance event so as to not mess with what is already in place. I am no coder, so I dont know how feasible it is, but having some of these additional milestones would definitely encourage more spending, at least it would me and that is all I can speak for.
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No serious paragon+ player is asking for 7R3 mats..but 7r2 and 6r4/6r5 mats and more 7* shards would be adequate given where they have pushed things to.