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Definition of a “Good 5*”

I personally have been really conflicted over whether or not I can consider certain 5* pulls “good”. Sure that champ may have a good side vand some nice bonuses, but is that champ really good enough to be taken to R4? Because then I have been 1/6 on “good” 5* pulls. Opinions?
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  • FR33_HUG5FR33_HUG5 Posts: 1,196 ★★★★
    If you personally think that champion is good, then rank them up.
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Posts: 1,200 ★★★
    If you like them and will use them, then it’s a good pull. Everyone will give you a different answer on what the “good champs” are.
  • SungjSungj Posts: 2,111 ★★★★★
    Basically, a good champion is one that you would use in a general line up or would see consistent use in the high end mid/end game content. Just think if the champion would be viable to use in content like act 5, road to the labyrinth, LOL etc.
  • phillgreenphillgreen Posts: 3,676 ★★★★★
    If the champ you pull will allow you to advance ingame, it's a good champion.

    If it is someone that wont fit your questing team or give you an advantage in alliance related stuff then its not worth spending anything on.


  • ContestOfNoobsContestOfNoobs Posts: 1,454 ★★★★
    edited January 2018
    oh u want "good" champs right? We only want to rank up good champs

    they mighyt aswell remove every single champion that will not help u progress, u guys have it so rough...
    but we all want good champs right?

    so they should change it to


    blade
    blade
    blade
    sl
    stark
    gwenpool
    blade
    blade
    blade
    hyperion
    ghost rider
    medusa
    blade
    blade
    blade
    iceman
    aa
    blade
    blade
    blade
    voodoo
    and..blade


    is that pool good enough? i literally put every champion that will help u pprogress
    thats "good"

    not sure how we will even get far if they add colosus, heck he shouldnt even be in this game right?
  • Mmx1991Mmx1991 Posts: 674 ★★★★
    Good 5* - worthy of rank 3

    Great 5* - worthy of rank 4

    God Tier - worthy of rank 5

    60% worth rank 2.

    20% worth rank 3.

    15% worth rank 4.

    5% worth rank 5.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    oh u want "good" champs right? We only want to rank up good champs

    they mighyt aswell remove every single champion that will not help u progress, u guys have it so rough...
    but we all want good champs right?

    so they should change it to


    blade
    blade
    blade
    sl
    stark
    gwenpool
    blade
    blade
    blade
    hyperion
    ghost rider
    medusa
    blade
    blade
    blade
    iceman
    aa
    blade
    blade
    blade
    voodoo
    and..blade


    is that pool good enough? i literally put every champion that will help u pprogress
    thats "good"

    not sure how we will even get far if they add colosus, heck he shouldnt even be in this game right?

    This post is nonsense. There are lots of "good" champs that can help even if they aren't "god tier".
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Posts: 9,254 ★★★★★
    If a champion isn’t good enough for rank 3 then they aren’t good enough for rank 2, it’s a waste of alphas
  • JRock808JRock808 Posts: 1,149 ★★★★
    Unless you have some expiring. R2 help arenas go faster.. that's it really.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,236 ★★★★★
    TBH, I take every Champ to R2. I'm more selective after that, depending on the Resources I have and what I want.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★
    TBH, I take every Champ to R2. I'm more selective after that, depending on the Resources I have and what I want.

    I'd take every champ to r2 except it would require about 100 t1 alphas lol
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,236 ★★★★★
    TBH, I take every Champ to R2. I'm more selective after that, depending on the Resources I have and what I want.

    I'd take every champ to r2 except it would require about 100 t1 alphas lol

    Not all at once. Lol. If I'm not working on a specific Champ, I take one up. I don't really have a shortage of Alphas. I pace my Ranking. ;)
  • ob1spykerob1spyker Posts: 7
    As long as it isn't Sentry, it's a "good" pull. (Rank down tix expired a day too early.)
  • Mmx1991Mmx1991 Posts: 674 ★★★★
    After a certain point in roster development, ranking any non-good 5* champ beyond rank 1 level 25 is a total waste of t1as. After infinite streak, 1/25s are good enough to get you by.

    Stop ranking up bad 5*s. If they can't help you progress, don't rank them up and that goes for a majority of them.
  • AnimatronicstoAnimatronicsto Posts: 194
    oh u want "good" champs right? We only want to rank up good champs

    they mighyt aswell remove every single champion that will not help u progress, u guys have it so rough...
    but we all want good champs right?

    so they should change it to


    blade
    blade
    blade
    sl
    stark
    gwenpool
    blade
    blade
    blade
    hyperion
    ghost rider
    medusa
    blade
    blade
    blade
    iceman
    aa
    blade
    blade
    blade
    voodoo
    and..blade


    is that pool good enough? i literally put every champion that will help u pprogress
    thats "good"

    not sure how we will even get far if they add colosus, heck he shouldnt even be in this game right?

    I never said anything about getting bad pulls. I just simply said I have 1/6 champs that I would personally consider ranking to R4. You don’t have to be such a grouch man chill out
  • LovingkidLovingkid Posts: 330 ★★
    edited January 2018
    In my 2nd last 5* i pulled a 5* GR and i know 90% agree hes god level champ and an owner of 4* maxed version i agree but on the other hand in my last 5* pull i got a 5* rihno and i know hes not considered a god or demigod or even a good champ by probably 80% of people but on the other hand i personally really really enjoy playing with him. And im taking him to r3 soon probably. Thats where difference of opinion generates.
    Out of my 16 5* , only 5 are above 1/25 rank. Including rihno currently at 2/35
  • AnimatronicstoAnimatronicsto Posts: 194
    oh u want "good" champs right? We only want to rank up good champs

    they mighyt aswell remove every single champion that will not help u progress, u guys have it so rough...
    but we all want good champs right?

    so they should change it to


    blade
    blade
    blade
    sl
    stark
    gwenpool
    blade
    blade
    blade
    hyperion
    ghost rider
    medusa
    blade
    blade
    blade
    iceman
    aa
    blade
    blade
    blade
    voodoo
    and..blade


    is that pool good enough? i literally put every champion that will help u pprogress
    thats "good"

    not sure how we will even get far if they add colosus, heck he shouldnt even be in this game right?

  • AnimatronicstoAnimatronicsto Posts: 194
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  • BobomanBoboman Posts: 716 ★★
    edited January 2018
    Learn to play with them and they are not bad
  • AnimatronicstoAnimatronicsto Posts: 194
    Boboman wrote: »
    Learn to play with them and they are not bad

    I disagree. If you learn to play Luke Cage or spidergwen they are still terrible. There’s no changing a champs potential even if you master then
  • BobomanBoboman Posts: 716 ★★
    edited January 2018
    Boboman wrote: »
    Learn to play with them and they are not bad

    I disagree. If you learn to play Luke Cage or spidergwen they are still terrible. There’s no changing a champs potential even if you master then

    They will be good for example if take Luke cage into a bleed path will he not do something or will he help out. There uses maybe bad but they are not garbage but they still have uses.
  • AnimatronicstoAnimatronicsto Posts: 194
    ArmandStar wrote: »
    any champ is good in the hands of a good player
    I disagree. Luke Cage can simply not be brought into end game content. He cannot he made good even by the bests. His lack of damage limits his ability to be considered good imo
  • AnimatronicstoAnimatronicsto Posts: 194
    Boboman wrote: »
    Boboman wrote: »
    Learn to play with them and they are not bad

    I disagree. If you learn to play Luke Cage or spidergwen they are still terrible. There’s no changing a champs potential even if you master then

    They will be good for example if take Luke cage into a bleed path will he not do something or will he help out. There uses my be bad but they are not garbage but they still have uses.

    Yes I agree. LC could be good on a caltrops node per say. But there are so many better options which make LC look pitiful. Such as Ghost Rider. He has Bleed Immunity and many other abilities that all combine to make him a good champ. And who are you bringing to a path that has Caltrops?
  • BobomanBoboman Posts: 716 ★★
    Boboman wrote: »
    Boboman wrote: »
    Learn to play with them and they are not bad

    I disagree. If you learn to play Luke Cage or spidergwen they are still terrible. There’s no changing a champs potential even if you master then

    They will be good for example if take Luke cage into a bleed path will he not do something or will he help out. There uses my be bad but they are not garbage but they still have uses.

    Yes I agree. LC could be good on a caltrops node per say. But there are so many better options which make LC look pitiful. Such as Ghost Rider. He has Bleed Immunity and many other abilities that all combine to make him a good champ. And who are you bringing to a path that has Caltrops?

    I bring Iceman because he works as my only double immune with Hyperion
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,236 ★★★★★
    Boboman wrote: »
    Learn to play with them and they are not bad

    I disagree. If you learn to play Luke Cage or spidergwen they are still terrible. There’s no changing a champs potential even if you master then

    Gwen is capable of some significant Damage. Have to disagree with that one. She gets more heat than she deserves.
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Posts: 1,200 ★★★
    ArmandStar wrote: »
    defensive oriented champions are not supposed to have good damage. offensive oriented champions are

    Luke is a defensive champion? That’s news.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 18,657 Guardian
    I personally have been really conflicted over whether or not I can consider certain 5* pulls “good”. Sure that champ may have a good side vand some nice bonuses, but is that champ really good enough to be taken to R4? Because then I have been 1/6 on “good” 5* pulls. Opinions?

    Everyone has their own way of judging, and so should you, because what matters is what the champion means to you and whether or not you'll be using them.

    I don't personally think in terms of "good" or "bad" most of the time, I think in terms of whether I will rank them up and use them or not. As an arena grinder, I believe all 5* champions are worth rank 2: the difference in points between rank 1 and rank 2 make it worth it. If I wasn't an arena grinder, I actually think few 5* champions are only worth going to rank 2 and then stopping. That's my bottom tier: rank up to rank 2 eventually.

    My next tier of 5* champions are champions with significant utility worth ranking up to rank 3. These are champions that if they were 4* I would rank them to 5/50 and use them at least some of the time. AQ, AW, or an option for questing depending on the path. I'd say probably something like a quarter to a third of all 5* champions are theoretically in this category.

    My next tier of 5* champs are champions worth taking to rank 4. These are the best of the best in my opinion, and there's maybe between one and two dozen champs here, when it comes to spending my resources. And my final tier are champs not just worth taking to rank 4, but worth saving for. In other words, not just worth ranking to 4/55 if I randomly get them, but worth doing whatever possible to get them as 5* if the option were to arise. This is a short list for me: Iceman was on it (and I got him), Blade is here, Stark Spiderman was here, and I think Ghost Rider would be here if he were to come up again.

    My lists aren't just about good and bad, they are also about recognizing my limited supply of rank up resources. There are a lot of champs that would be "good pulls" even if I couldn't rank them to rank 4, just because I'm pretty sure that eventually I will have way more champs worth R4 than I have the resources to R4. There is such a thing as a "good pull" that for all practical purposes stays at R3 indefinitely because of that.
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