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  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,568 ★★★★★

    Why are we hiding spoilers when the word spoilers should be on the thread name

    Because people who hasnt seen still reads threads so best to still spoiler mark spoilers
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,552 ★★★★★
    Shamir51 said:

    PT_99 said:

    PT_99 said:

    I'm only here for that lesbian kiss 😳

    Are you 12?
    There's no age in appreciating affection, love and happiness.

    Same way there’s no age in being a sweaty perv?
    If you think appreciating a kiss is being sweaty perv then I feel sorry for your partner. 😢
  • CROSSHAIRSCROSSHAIRS Member Posts: 397
    Bendy said:

    Why are we hiding spoilers when the word spoilers should be on the thread name

    Because people who hasnt seen still reads threads so best to still spoiler mark spoilers
    (What kind of Tomfoolery is that)
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,575 ★★★★★
    Not sure why all the hate. They left it open to get picked up for another Season. Loved it.
  • Sundance_2099Sundance_2099 Member Posts: 3,430 ★★★★★
    It's not being renewed. Jac Schaeffer was originally writing this as part 2 of a trilogy with Vision Quest as part 3, but they've changed head writer on the Vision show and how much is being kept isn't clear.
  • EakomoEakomo Member Posts: 135

    It's not being renewed. Jac Schaeffer was originally writing this as part 2 of a trilogy with Vision Quest as part 3, but they've changed head writer on the Vision show and how much is being kept isn't clear.

    the vision show wasn't meant to be show but just appeared randomly this year
  • EakomoEakomo Member Posts: 135
    Bendy said:

    Eakomo said:

    Can someone explain:



    Why is Agatha tricking witches to steal power in the first place? The first time was sorta inevitable, she didn’t know she could do it and it was self preservation. After that was she doing it to sustain herself or to get stronger? Or did she just hate witches and want to kill them all?

    Why did she say she couldn’t face Nicky? She didn’t do anything wrong, she got him more time than he would have had without Agatha asking Death to spare him.

    Why did Agatha become a ghost but not the other witches? A little exposition on this point might have helped me enjoy the finale more.

    How did Wiccan build the trials that required the other witches knowledge to solve? Was he subconsciously reading their minds to build the road and had no idea he was doing any of it?

    the show sets up and mentions a lot of things that get discarded very fast


    her killing witches to gain power seems interesting for someone who is a trickster but why didn't her mother or anyone else have that kind of power as well?

    why did she need to have them attack her if she was always going to get the darkhold and why do people think she sacrificed her kid to get it, when by what they showed she killed every other witch who saw her kid?

    wiccan finds that she and death were always together but the final episode says otherwise, and why didn't she even try to save her kid or teach him magic, but consistently kill people to "survive"
    Well we learnt her using that dark form of magic she was actually in control the entire time as when she blasted she seemed fine and was able to drain, also she couldnt save the kid as his time was up hence death showing but gave time and so she had more time with her son she killed other witches but as she said there was no way to heal him, so even though he had time she knew he was sick and should of died when born

    her purple magic has always been her own, but her having 0 powers normally and needing witches to try and kill her doesn't add up.
    especially with wandavision where the only witch around was wanda (as far that was shown) who didn't attack her for up untill the end of the show when she now couldn't absorb the magic?? why didn't it work for wanda who knows

    the kids had been up since he was born, as shown with death showing up during the delivery, which also brings up questions is it a baby from the darkhold like wiccan and his brother with wanda (shouldn't be as wanda created them without the darkhold herself), when did she even get the dark hold and why didn't she use it since it has so much magic and gives powers??.

    her excuse for killing other witches is for survival which is odd seeing as no one chased her from the salem 7, except the kids hundreds of years later, she is manipulating them to get powers for an unknown reason.
    she is never shown to try to heal or give health to her kid, which sort of implies that she has accepted what will happen but she then doesn't want to fully die because she can't meet him even though she's been doing the same thing before and after he died.
    so much convolution with no end result
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,568 ★★★★★
    Eakomo said:

    Bendy said:

    Eakomo said:

    Can someone explain:



    Why is Agatha tricking witches to steal power in the first place? The first time was sorta inevitable, she didn’t know she could do it and it was self preservation. After that was she doing it to sustain herself or to get stronger? Or did she just hate witches and want to kill them all?

    Why did she say she couldn’t face Nicky? She didn’t do anything wrong, she got him more time than he would have had without Agatha asking Death to spare him.

    Why did Agatha become a ghost but not the other witches? A little exposition on this point might have helped me enjoy the finale more.

    How did Wiccan build the trials that required the other witches knowledge to solve? Was he subconsciously reading their minds to build the road and had no idea he was doing any of it?

    the show sets up and mentions a lot of things that get discarded very fast


    her killing witches to gain power seems interesting for someone who is a trickster but why didn't her mother or anyone else have that kind of power as well?

    why did she need to have them attack her if she was always going to get the darkhold and why do people think she sacrificed her kid to get it, when by what they showed she killed every other witch who saw her kid?

    wiccan finds that she and death were always together but the final episode says otherwise, and why didn't she even try to save her kid or teach him magic, but consistently kill people to "survive"
    Well we learnt her using that dark form of magic she was actually in control the entire time as when she blasted she seemed fine and was able to drain, also she couldnt save the kid as his time was up hence death showing but gave time and so she had more time with her son she killed other witches but as she said there was no way to heal him, so even though he had time she knew he was sick and should of died when born

    her purple magic has always been her own, but her having 0 powers normally and needing witches to try and kill her doesn't add up.
    especially with wandavision where the only witch around was wanda (as far that was shown) who didn't attack her for up untill the end of the show when she now couldn't absorb the magic?? why didn't it work for wanda who knows

    the kids had been up since he was born, as shown with death showing up during the delivery, which also brings up questions is it a baby from the darkhold like wiccan and his brother with wanda (shouldn't be as wanda created them without the darkhold herself), when did she even get the dark hold and why didn't she use it since it has so much magic and gives powers??.

    her excuse for killing other witches is for survival which is odd seeing as no one chased her from the salem 7, except the kids hundreds of years later, she is manipulating them to get powers for an unknown reason.
    she is never shown to try to heal or give health to her kid, which sort of implies that she has accepted what will happen but she then doesn't want to fully die because she can't meet him even though she's been doing the same thing before and after he died.
    so much convolution with no end result
    the death showing when her child being born if u look at fingers and all through episode she doesnt have the darkhold she must have acquired after 1750s, her killing other is just so she can be close to her son because that was their thing about cant face him i think its more about why he was sick and it has to do with how he was born and that she kept him alive by doing a terrible thing

    To keep death happy and keep him alive longer she had to kill but she knew she couldnt heal meaning she must have tried healing him prior the time gap.

    With the wanda thing she was absorbing it but wouldnt have worked since she done runes but she was absorbing wanda power but due to chaos magic she had a lot of energy but agatha was absorbing it just different way since she was basically in control so she can take and steal without it showing
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,568 ★★★★★
    Eakomo said:

    It's not being renewed. Jac Schaeffer was originally writing this as part 2 of a trilogy with Vision Quest as part 3, but they've changed head writer on the Vision show and how much is being kept isn't clear.

    the vision show wasn't meant to be show but just appeared randomly this year
    It was always going to be a show ur thinking of armor wars where it kept changing of show to film
  • EakomoEakomo Member Posts: 135
    Bendy said:

    Eakomo said:

    It's not being renewed. Jac Schaeffer was originally writing this as part 2 of a trilogy with Vision Quest as part 3, but they've changed head writer on the Vision show and how much is being kept isn't clear.

    the vision show wasn't meant to be show but just appeared randomly this year
    It was always going to be a show ur thinking of armor wars where it kept changing of show to film
    at least armor wars was confirmed a couple of years ago, the vision show hadn't gotten any information untill the recent information
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,568 ★★★★★
    Eakomo said:

    Bendy said:

    Eakomo said:

    It's not being renewed. Jac Schaeffer was originally writing this as part 2 of a trilogy with Vision Quest as part 3, but they've changed head writer on the Vision show and how much is being kept isn't clear.

    the vision show wasn't meant to be show but just appeared randomly this year
    It was always going to be a show ur thinking of armor wars where it kept changing of show to film
    at least armor wars was confirmed a couple of years ago, the vision show hadn't gotten any information untill the recent information
    I think its always been green lit just they didnt want info out till agatha since they knew it be a 3 part series hence why we didnt know anything about agatha either
  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 1,697 ★★★★

    Not sure why all the hate. They left it open to get picked up for another Season. Loved it.

    There's no hate here. We're just pointing out our opinions
  • EakomoEakomo Member Posts: 135
    Bendy said:

    Eakomo said:

    Bendy said:

    Eakomo said:

    It's not being renewed. Jac Schaeffer was originally writing this as part 2 of a trilogy with Vision Quest as part 3, but they've changed head writer on the Vision show and how much is being kept isn't clear.

    the vision show wasn't meant to be show but just appeared randomly this year
    It was always going to be a show ur thinking of armor wars where it kept changing of show to film
    at least armor wars was confirmed a couple of years ago, the vision show hadn't gotten any information untill the recent information
    I think its always been green lit just they didnt want info out till agatha since they knew it be a 3 part series hence why we didnt know anything about agatha either
    well unless they outright tell us the planning process i doubt it had been green lit before 2024, and for good reason.
    generally it's not a good idea to green lit a show that you are not already planning to work on before you suggest it will link to another show like agatha
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,568 ★★★★★
    Eakomo said:

    Bendy said:

    Eakomo said:

    Bendy said:

    Eakomo said:

    It's not being renewed. Jac Schaeffer was originally writing this as part 2 of a trilogy with Vision Quest as part 3, but they've changed head writer on the Vision show and how much is being kept isn't clear.

    the vision show wasn't meant to be show but just appeared randomly this year
    It was always going to be a show ur thinking of armor wars where it kept changing of show to film
    at least armor wars was confirmed a couple of years ago, the vision show hadn't gotten any information untill the recent information
    I think its always been green lit just they didnt want info out till agatha since they knew it be a 3 part series hence why we didnt know anything about agatha either
    well unless they outright tell us the planning process i doubt it had been green lit before 2024, and for good reason.
    generally it's not a good idea to green lit a show that you are not already planning to work on before you suggest it will link to another show like agatha
    Considering the vision actor said its starting in 2025 its been green lit for a while
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 3,085 ★★★★
    Enjoyed the series till the end.

    Now, we know Agatha's road since ancient times.
    How evil she was.. haha

    This series ,besides the Marvel characters gave voice and place for LGBT persons too with some kisses...

    I was really waiting to see Speed appears, but as some said before he may appear in Vision series...

    Wiccan is prepared with a ghost to help.

    In 2025 more series to talk about

  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,568 ★★★★★

    Enjoyed the series till the end.

    Now, we know Agatha's road since ancient times.
    How evil she was.. haha

    This series ,besides the Marvel characters gave voice and place for LGBT persons too with some kisses...

    I was really waiting to see Speed appears, but as some said before he may appear in Vision series...

    Wiccan is prepared with a ghost to help.

    In 2025 more series to talk about

    Wonder man im most excited for shame its a december series next year so for now imma just be excited for daredevil and ironheart but so waiting on wonder man
  • AzdefAzdef Member Posts: 252 ★★
    Loved it! Fun cast and a very fun series! Keep it up Marvel..
  • Maverick75Maverick75 Member Posts: 746 ★★★
    For sure I am not a fan, reading the comics. So I discover the characters with the games, the movies and the series. So I have no advice before watching the first episodes.
    The fans are not the major part of the people watching the movies and the series. At least they were not because the audience decreased for the last 3 years.

    As movies and series are long term works, I presume Marvel is still on its road of low quality. Agatha is empty and so boring.
    The only series I appreciated a bit to watch were She-Hulk and Moon Knight.
    The Marvels was a big fail, Love and Thunder was not great.
    My only hope is in the next movies with the Russo brothers and Robert Downey Jr. If they called back them, the reason is obvious: a too long chain of disappointments.
    Until then, I will skip the movies and series.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,471 ★★★
    I think it's the best mcu show we've had so far on the whole. Not even close to legion but still, way more cohesive and better paced than most of the Disney plus stuff and actually had a conclusion for more than 1 character u like the loki finale
  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 1,697 ★★★★

    I think it's the best mcu show we've had so far on the whole. Not even close to legion but still, way more cohesive and better paced than most of the Disney plus stuff and actually had a conclusion for more than 1 character u like the loki finale

    One of the best ones since WandaVison
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,255 ★★★★★
    final episode was lacking but overall a great show.
  • CROSSHAIRSCROSSHAIRS Member Posts: 397
    edited November 7
    My opinion but it was a solid 7.8 / 10
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