just to hammer the point again, i don't think RAIDS should generally use more revives than we're given, assuming you have a reasonable level of skill and a developed roster and don't mess up.
reasons:
1. the value of chest rewards drop off a cliff.
spring cleaning is next month and 2 months after that the floodgates will open even more with july 4th offers....while these chest rewards stay the same.
how did you feel pulling half a t6cc when easy-clearing the old RAIDS with 21 revives? it felt horrible, now imagine using units for those rewards.
2. ingame rewards are not special. like at all. rewards from a Super Duper Nightmare Ultra RAIDS suffer the same depreciation as any other reward from any other game mode, so why pay a premium to run it? again, if you have decent skill and a developed roster you should be able to clear without hitting units.
3. i'm trying not to sound like an ungrateful f2p'er, which i'm not (i've actually spent a lot on this game), but my point is that it's not cool to have mcoc inflation and permanently raise the ceiling on unit use (assuming RAIDS design philosophy stays the same) for no reason.
One thing that occurs to me is that they actually went in the other direction for Ordeal. Those rewards were surprisingly generous for the scale / difficulty of the content. I get that it’s a one-off vs monthly recurring content, but just to give some recognition when they actually do something player friendly…
just to hammer the point again, i don't think RAIDS should generally use more revives than we're given, assuming you have a reasonable level of skill and a developed roster and don't mess up.
reasons:
1. the value of chest rewards drop off a cliff.
spring cleaning is next month and 2 months after that the floodgates will open even more with july 4th offers....while these chest rewards stay the same.
how did you feel pulling half a t6cc when easy-clearing the old RAIDS with 21 revives? it felt horrible, now imagine using units for those rewards.
2. ingame rewards are not special. like at all. rewards from a Super Duper Nightmare Ultra RAIDS suffer the same depreciation as any other reward from any other game mode, so why pay a premium to run it? again, if you have decent skill and a developed roster you should be able to clear without hitting units.
3. i'm trying not to sound like an ungrateful f2p'er, which i'm not (i've actually spent a lot on this game), but my point is that it's not cool to have mcoc inflation and permanently raise the ceiling on unit use (assuming RAIDS design philosophy stays the same) for no reason.
One thing that occurs to me is that they actually went in the other direction for Ordeal. Those rewards were surprisingly generous for the scale / difficulty of the content. I get that it’s a one-off vs monthly recurring content, but just to give some recognition when they actually do something player friendly…
yes, ordeal had amazing rewards for the difficulty, and i think it was meant to help close the gap a little since banquet but it's mainly to encourage roster growth for progressing players, since it was 7* gated.
i think we'll see a new progression title by the end of the year, timed with cyber monday, and they're going to start getting as many progressing players to move up as they reasonably can.
It's funny seeing people legit endure so much, and yet there are still players out here on defense of the absolute horrible anti player practices. Vega was often a big defender of the game but even he doesn't have infinite patience. Most people don't hate on the game just for hate, I genuinely want this game to be the best Marvel game out there. Bro I've spent thousands of dollars on the game, It's an investment at this point lol, but I legit can't stand those who not only ignore the issues, but protect them and say "It's okay, stop whining, have patience".
It's funny seeing people legit endure so much, and yet there are still players out here on defense of the absolute horrible anti player practices. Vega was often a big defender of the game but even he doesn't have infinite patience. Most people don't hate on the game just for hate, I genuinely want this game to be the best Marvel game out there. Bro I've spent thousands of dollars on the game, It's an investment at this point lol, but I legit can't stand those who not only ignore the issues, but protect them and say "It's okay, stop whining, have patience".
People acting as if we want a Boycott, instead of asking why there is threats of one.
just to hammer the point again, i don't think RAIDS should generally use more revives than we're given, assuming you have a reasonable level of skill and a developed roster and don't mess up.
reasons:
1. the value of chest rewards drop off a cliff.
spring cleaning is next month and 2 months after that the floodgates will open even more with july 4th offers....while these chest rewards stay the same.
how did you feel pulling half a t6cc when easy-clearing the old RAIDS with 21 revives? it felt horrible, now imagine using units for those rewards.
2. ingame rewards are not special. like at all. rewards from a Super Duper Nightmare Ultra RAIDS suffer the same depreciation as any other reward from any other game mode, so why pay a premium to run it? again, if you have decent skill and a developed roster you should be able to clear without hitting units.
3. i'm trying not to sound like an ungrateful f2p'er, which i'm not (i've actually spent a lot on this game), but my point is that it's not cool to have mcoc inflation and permanently raise the ceiling on unit use (assuming RAIDS design philosophy stays the same) for no reason.
I think it’s a great point you raise.
I also strongly agree and have said something Vega said about Raids in general… it’s not a great mode to begin with it’s simply better than AQ, the lowest bar imaginable. This should not be turned into an end game target mode
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
I'm certainly not going to speak for Vega as he's fully capable of doing that for himself (also, he'll probably say I'm wrong - just kidding Vega) but the gist I got from his video is that - and this I agree with - for him spending is not purely transactional. It isn't like shopping for groceries, say, where you need oranges and milk so you go buy oranges and milk. It is in part a desire to support the game and the game development. And if he is not happy about the state of the game or the direction of the game's development, that prompts him to decide not to spend as a way to communicate that disagreement.
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
I agree, up to a point. I think the words we choose on a platform have an effect. You can encourage or discourage people when you have a somewhat larger platform. I would prefer if he simply chose to say he was no longer spending, rather than use the buzzword "boycott", as well as include it on the thumbnail. Perhaps a bit of clickbait advertising, but that also has effects that snowball.
I think this has come around full circle, to the point where I'm not offended any more when someone just speaks the word "boycott." Once upon a time, it was a highly charged word, and so people abused it for their own purposes. But that happened often enough that the word lost all its potency, to the point where it became practically a cause for ridicule, not a call to action. This has been happening for so long now that I think all the power of the word, in both directions, has been diluted to the point where it just means what the dictionary says it means, and not a lot else.
So while it is click-baity, this is Youtube we're talking about. On a scale of one to generic AI science channel, its like a three at best.
This is true for most of the calls of a boycott in recent years, but I have not had this many “friends” that are big spenders stop spending like this since 12.0. I realize my circle isn’t the largest, but it is telling that there has not been this much unity around spending in a long time. There is not animosity for the game, there is however, a lot of animosity building over the last 6 months towards the direction Kabam seems to be taking it. Especially in areas that were keeping a lot of bigger spenders in the game, like BGs.
Kabam is more tolerant in this situation than I would be. You're indirectly encouraging boycotting and telling people they can spend if they choose. I get being frustrated. Passive aggressive threats aren't going to resolve issues any faster. This is a glorified tantrum.
Except they're not even exiting, just being drama queens about it...
Players need Kabam to validate the time, money, and emotional energy they've poured into the game. They're not just players—they're people who've made this game part of their identity, their self-worth, their routine, their fake social circle. So when Kabam screws up, they don’t just get mad at a company—they feel personally betrayed, like a parent let them down.
That's why all these complaints sound so emotional. “Please listen to us.” “We just want to be heard.” “We used to have fun together.” It’s not consumer feedback—it’s the emotional language of neglected attachment. Kabam isn’t just a service provider anymore; it’s mommy and daddy.
And when someone says, “Why are you still living at home if you hate your parents?” They're the bad guy who needs to be insulted and drowned out.
What validation are you seeking calling everyone drama queens for being frustrated with the game they used to enjoy? Why do you feel compelled to spend a great deal amount of time here telling everyone to just leave quietly? Why don’t you just go enjoy the game you think is perfectly tuned quietly and quit posting here?
You don’t seem concerned about any effect people leaving will have on the game. And if that’s the case - why do you care if they sound off on concerns? Seems like the only thing that might happen differently is that Kabam starts moving faster on these issues - which you would necessarily benefit from. So it’s a win-win for you… unless you are chasing some other validation from Kabam employees to go along with it.
He’s a kabam defender and so is demonzfyre
I would love for you to quote something I said in this thread and explain how I'm defending Kabam. Seriously, I'm both baffled and intrigued by your delusional logic....
People want change and we can’t even talk about it here because all you will do it deny it.
The community wanted a change in bg rewards/milestones
Lagacy made a video and now Vega.
Look at all the downvotes you been getting and arguing against everyone here nobody is on your side 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You just be great at parties 😂🤣😂
Literally no one cares about what YOU THINK,we just want kabam to know and hurry that rewards in general in the game are outdated
We are getting valient eq in may and thats along time in mcoc time.
And who knows when kabam update bg rewards might be next season or they will wait till season 30
People just wanna voice there concerns because nothing is changing.
Keep arguging against it because your the one in denial
I asked you to quote something I said in this thread that is defending Kabam and you just kept making personal remarks without pointing to anything I said. I don't know what you do for a living but I'd be shocked if it requires critical thinking....
i dont know what YOU do for a living, but i know for sure when being told no or if a opinion of yours doesnt go your way, you make a big fuss about it.
just go look at ur downvotes on this thread
we just want change, some of us have a passion for the game and that's why we are here.
Kabam is more tolerant in this situation than I would be. You're indirectly encouraging boycotting and telling people they can spend if they choose. I get being frustrated. Passive aggressive threats aren't going to resolve issues any faster. This is a glorified tantrum.
Except they're not even exiting, just being drama queens about it...
Players need Kabam to validate the time, money, and emotional energy they've poured into the game. They're not just players—they're people who've made this game part of their identity, their self-worth, their routine, their fake social circle. So when Kabam screws up, they don’t just get mad at a company—they feel personally betrayed, like a parent let them down.
That's why all these complaints sound so emotional. “Please listen to us.” “We just want to be heard.” “We used to have fun together.” It’s not consumer feedback—it’s the emotional language of neglected attachment. Kabam isn’t just a service provider anymore; it’s mommy and daddy.
And when someone says, “Why are you still living at home if you hate your parents?” They're the bad guy who needs to be insulted and drowned out.
What validation are you seeking calling everyone drama queens for being frustrated with the game they used to enjoy? Why do you feel compelled to spend a great deal amount of time here telling everyone to just leave quietly? Why don’t you just go enjoy the game you think is perfectly tuned quietly and quit posting here?
You don’t seem concerned about any effect people leaving will have on the game. And if that’s the case - why do you care if they sound off on concerns? Seems like the only thing that might happen differently is that Kabam starts moving faster on these issues - which you would necessarily benefit from. So it’s a win-win for you… unless you are chasing some other validation from Kabam employees to go along with it.
He’s a kabam defender and so is demonzfyre
I would love for you to quote something I said in this thread and explain how I'm defending Kabam. Seriously, I'm both baffled and intrigued by your delusional logic....
Look at all the downvotes you been getting and arguing against everyone here nobody is on your side 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
"Delusional logic" or not, counting downvotes isn't an actual argument. It's just a moronic, meaningless metric used in echo chambers like reddit & here on the forums.
Blah blah blah, it just means PEOPLE ARENT Agreeing with YOU AND WE DONT LOL.
Get the through your head, you literally remind me of ocean gate guy who thought he was always right and went on ahead with his submarine and imploded going to the titanic.
Peoppe told him what he thought was wrong and he thought his ideas was always right.
Do you know the amount of of people that told him it was dangerous and it wasn’t safe to do?
Thats basically a lot of people disagreeing with him but he didn’t care what they say.
Mr. I think it’s my way or the highway is YOU but in mcoc forums 🤣😂🤣
You will never admit your wrong and it shows by the the disagreement votes you’re getting here.
Again what validation you want? From kabam?
We just voicing our OPINIONS on current state of the game.
It’s what the forums is about. But you would rather be wrong and defend that even if you Implode yourself 🤣😂🤣😂
Kinda funny you think I'm defending their words. Actually, the opposite. I think change should/needs to happen. Everyone is obviously entitled to their opinion & as I said above what I think the majority are correct. Just pointing out that pointless metrics like downvotes are silly
you need to know the "metrics" that kabam has NOT updated things like battlegrounds because according there metrics they didnt bother updating it now every youtuber is making a big deal out of it.
lot of agrees on the post and alot here who disagree obviosuly those down and up votes do matter lol.
Kabam is more tolerant in this situation than I would be. You're indirectly encouraging boycotting and telling people they can spend if they choose. I get being frustrated. Passive aggressive threats aren't going to resolve issues any faster. This is a glorified tantrum.
Except they're not even exiting, just being drama queens about it...
Players need Kabam to validate the time, money, and emotional energy they've poured into the game. They're not just players—they're people who've made this game part of their identity, their self-worth, their routine, their fake social circle. So when Kabam screws up, they don’t just get mad at a company—they feel personally betrayed, like a parent let them down.
That's why all these complaints sound so emotional. “Please listen to us.” “We just want to be heard.” “We used to have fun together.” It’s not consumer feedback—it’s the emotional language of neglected attachment. Kabam isn’t just a service provider anymore; it’s mommy and daddy.
And when someone says, “Why are you still living at home if you hate your parents?” They're the bad guy who needs to be insulted and drowned out.
What validation are you seeking calling everyone drama queens for being frustrated with the game they used to enjoy? Why do you feel compelled to spend a great deal amount of time here telling everyone to just leave quietly? Why don’t you just go enjoy the game you think is perfectly tuned quietly and quit posting here?
You don’t seem concerned about any effect people leaving will have on the game. And if that’s the case - why do you care if they sound off on concerns? Seems like the only thing that might happen differently is that Kabam starts moving faster on these issues - which you would necessarily benefit from. So it’s a win-win for you… unless you are chasing some other validation from Kabam employees to go along with it.
He’s a kabam defender and so is demonzfyre
I would love for you to quote something I said in this thread and explain how I'm defending Kabam. Seriously, I'm both baffled and intrigued by your delusional logic....
People want change and we can’t even talk about it here because all you will do it deny it.
The community wanted a change in bg rewards/milestones
Lagacy made a video and now Vega.
Look at all the downvotes you been getting and arguing against everyone here nobody is on your side 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You just be great at parties 😂🤣😂
Literally no one cares about what YOU THINK,we just want kabam to know and hurry that rewards in general in the game are outdated
We are getting valient eq in may and thats along time in mcoc time.
And who knows when kabam update bg rewards might be next season or they will wait till season 30
People just wanna voice there concerns because nothing is changing.
Keep arguging against it because your the one in denial
I asked you to quote something I said in this thread that is defending Kabam and you just kept making personal remarks without pointing to anything I said. I don't know what you do for a living but I'd be shocked if it requires critical thinking....
i dont know what YOU do for a living, but i know for sure when being told no or if a opinion of yours doesnt go your way, you make a big fuss about it.
just go look at ur downvotes on this thread
we just want change, some of us have a passion for the game and that's why we are here.
Please just ignore that guy. Their entire schtick here is to derail threads and try to make themselves feel superior to others.
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
I'm certainly not going to speak for Vega as he's fully capable of doing that for himself (also, he'll probably say I'm wrong - just kidding Vega) but the gist I got from his video is that - and this I agree with - for him spending is not purely transactional. It isn't like shopping for groceries, say, where you need oranges and milk so you go buy oranges and milk. It is in part a desire to support the game and the game development. And if he is not happy about the state of the game or the direction of the game's development, that prompts him to decide not to spend as a way to communicate that disagreement.
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
I agree, up to a point. I think the words we choose on a platform have an effect. You can encourage or discourage people when you have a somewhat larger platform. I would prefer if he simply chose to say he was no longer spending, rather than use the buzzword "boycott", as well as include it on the thumbnail. Perhaps a bit of clickbait advertising, but that also has effects that snowball.
I think this has come around full circle, to the point where I'm not offended any more when someone just speaks the word "boycott." Once upon a time, it was a highly charged word, and so people abused it for their own purposes. But that happened often enough that the word lost all its potency, to the point where it became practically a cause for ridicule, not a call to action. This has been happening for so long now that I think all the power of the word, in both directions, has been diluted to the point where it just means what the dictionary says it means, and not a lot else.
So while it is click-baity, this is Youtube we're talking about. On a scale of one to generic AI science channel, its like a three at best.
This is true for most of the calls of a boycott in recent years, but I have not had this many “friends” that are big spenders stop spending like this since 12.0. I realize my circle isn’t the largest, but it is telling that there has not been this much unity around spending in a long time.
You’d be surprised at just how many of us there are. My circle is decently sized, and there are a ton of us who are fed up and done spending.
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
If I want to be honest, if you ask me (and I know I'm not alone with it), the answer is yes, it's a form of addiction. Not necessarily to the game, although that became so much part of the daily routine, just like smoking, as a habit, in itself is an addiction, but also addiction towards the community. Being in the same alliance for years, having a lot of friends through the game, yes, that is really something that is hard to drop. Most of my team members are only still around because of the team. Leaving this behind would only matter to me, keeping my money would matter for those in charge too.
Love Vega as a creator and a dude. Appreciate his take on the situation and understand where he's coming from. Obviously this isn't a snap your fingers and its fixed situation, but this is definitely heard and we're passing it along to the team.
I've started to hate this "pass it along" response. It has lost so much meaning. 3 months after Galan lost 2/9 incinerates off sp2 I started writing tickets and posts monthly asking about the situation. Every ticket response I got was "it's been passed along to the appropriate teams". It took almost 2 WHOLE YEARS for him to get them back.
"Pass it along" Plot twist: they were playing the telephone game all along.
I don’t know if this is an intentional dad joke, but it’s the one we deserve.
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
Because we don't want to quit, we just want to enjoy the game again like we used to. We actually care about the game and we're not trying to get it shut down, we're just trying to make it better because we know for a fact the potential is and will always be there. It's really not that deep if you stop trying to psychoanalyze everyone like your life depends on it lol bro turned a forum discussion into a case study, sit down Dr. Phil armchair psychology belongs on Facebook mom groups not here.
Theres a reason his name wasnt listed with Lagacy, Andrews, Traps in the post. You would think that given all the money he generates on his videos from our views, and his giant roster, he'd score in similar brackets to those guys, but he usually finishes like Quantum.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
Theres a reason his name wasnt listed with Lagacy, Andrews, Traps in the post. You would think that given all the money he generates on his videos from our views, and his giant roster, he'd score in similar brackets to those guys, but he usually finishes like Quantum.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
I think he is more legit cause his hobbie gets affected and not his sole source of income; but that's my point of view.
I'm glad ccs are finally saying something and it's not just us on the forums, let's just hope whatever they're planning isn't something as dumb as "doubled the amount of relic alloys and shards in GC" cause absolutely nobody cares about irrelevant items like those. We want actual relevant rewards that make the grind worth and aren't locked behind a paywall.
Well I can agree with this to an extent. I don't mind getting relic stuff, because I kind of like the relic stuff. It helps. But the rewards stuff behind a paywall is what certain people who are pay to win, spend on. I'm only speaking for me. I do spend, mostly im free to play and pay but at my own spending. For example. Im not about to spend 100 bucks for 5 crystals that wont guarantee me 7 stars of the months champs, but not like certain people who whale or pay to get every champ or stuff like that.
Theres a reason his name wasnt listed with Lagacy, Andrews, Traps in the post. You would think that given all the money he generates on his videos from our views, and his giant roster, he'd score in similar brackets to those guys, but he usually finishes like Quantum.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
I think he is more legit cause his hobbie gets affected and not his sole source of income; but that's my point of view.
I get that people can change opinions based on new info but to push click bait negative and flip click bait positive… I think the credibility left the building.
Theres a reason his name wasnt listed with Lagacy, Andrews, Traps in the post. You would think that given all the money he generates on his videos from our views, and his giant roster, he'd score in similar brackets to those guys, but he usually finishes like Quantum.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
And to think he speaks for everybody? Who's everybody he is referring to because I'm not apart of his everybody lol
Theres a reason his name wasnt listed with Lagacy, Andrews, Traps in the post. You would think that given all the money he generates on his videos from our views, and his giant roster, he'd score in similar brackets to those guys, but he usually finishes like Quantum.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
I think he is more legit cause his hobbie gets affected and not his sole source of income; but that's my point of view.
I get that people can change opinions based on new info but to push click bait negative and flip click bait positive… I think the credibility left the building.
I haven't had time to watch it yet; but if he js backing off due to the compensation.. yeah...
Theres a reason his name wasnt listed with Lagacy, Andrews, Traps in the post. You would think that given all the money he generates on his videos from our views, and his giant roster, he'd score in similar brackets to those guys, but he usually finishes like Quantum.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
I think he is more legit cause his hobbie gets affected and not his sole source of income; but that's my point of view.
I get that people can change opinions based on new info but to push click bait negative and flip click bait positive… I think the credibility left the building.
I haven't had time to watch it yet; but if he js backing off due to the compensation.. yeah...
Oh he is. Even in some comments I've read. And I have a feeling that some others will click bait. I'm not trying to stir you become I do have respect for you, you do make me laugh in most of your replies I read when I do come onto forums lol
Theres a reason his name wasnt listed with Lagacy, Andrews, Traps in the post. You would think that given all the money he generates on his videos from our views, and his giant roster, he'd score in similar brackets to those guys, but he usually finishes like Quantum.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
I think he is more legit cause his hobbie gets affected and not his sole source of income; but that's my point of view.
I get that people can change opinions based on new info but to push click bait negative and flip click bait positive… I think the credibility left the building.
I haven't had time to watch it yet; but if he js backing off due to the compensation.. yeah...
Oh he is. Even in some comments I've read. And I have a feeling that some others will click bait. I'm not trying to stir you become I do have respect for you, you do make me laugh in most of your replies I read when I do come onto forums lol
Got it, thanks 👍 But that font though agh... Love yourself a lil more and be kind to your eyes bud!
Theres a reason his name wasnt listed with Lagacy, Andrews, Traps in the post. You would think that given all the money he generates on his videos from our views, and his giant roster, he'd score in similar brackets to those guys, but he usually finishes like Quantum.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
I think he is more legit cause his hobbie gets affected and not his sole source of income; but that's my point of view.
I get that people can change opinions based on new info but to push click bait negative and flip click bait positive… I think the credibility left the building.
I haven't had time to watch it yet; but if he js backing off due to the compensation.. yeah...
Oh he is. Even in some comments I've read. And I have a feeling that some others will click bait. I'm not trying to stir you become I do have respect for you, you do make me laugh in most of your replies I read when I do come onto forums lol
Got it, thanks 👍 But that font though agh... Love yourself a lil more and be kind to your eyes bud!
Hey hey hey (fat Albert voice) I love that font lol
Theres a reason his name wasnt listed with Lagacy, Andrews, Traps in the post. You would think that given all the money he generates on his videos from our views, and his giant roster, he'd score in similar brackets to those guys, but he usually finishes like Quantum.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
I think he is more legit cause his hobbie gets affected and not his sole source of income; but that's my point of view.
I get that people can change opinions based on new info but to push click bait negative and flip click bait positive… I think the credibility left the building.
100%. Meaningful long term change has not even taken place yet.
Vega is still a player and his own person - he can start/stop boycotting for whatever reasons he wants. BUT that doesn't mean you need to follow him, either. I will personally continue to cease spending.
Vega is still a player and his own person - he can start/stop boycotting for whatever reasons he wants. BUT that doesn't mean you need to follow him, either. I will personally continue to cease spending.
Thanks Slayer for being a real one. GGs. Vega loves his clickbait money more than the community. People can see it for themselves.
I'm #teamcommunity I'm also #teamKabam. As in the end, they are the ones responsible for #teamcommunity.
Appreciate the interaction @KabamPinwheel —your willingness to engage is always impressive.
Certainly, I hope the issues raised by content creators get addressed…but I also hope other issues don’t get deprioritized simply because of their spotlighting BGs and Raids.
I doubt I’m the only one who still sees input issues and frame stutter/lag on a regular basis (and before anyone comments, no, I’m not playing on a circa 2002 Nokia). There’s a lot going on, many of us still greatly enjoy the game and have stuck with it. We’d just like to see game play problems get the attention they deserve as well as mode-specific issues.
Appreciate the interaction @KabamPinwheel —your willingness to engage is always impressive.
Certainly, I hope the issues raised by content creators get addressed…but I also hope other issues don’t get deprioritized simply because of their spotlighting BGs and Raids.
I doubt I’m the only one who still sees input issues and frame stutter/lag on a regular basis (and before anyone comments, no, I’m not playing on a circa 2002 Nokia). There’s a lot going on, many of us still greatly enjoy the game and have stuck with it. We’d just like to see game play problems get the attention they deserve as well as mode-specific issues.
Dr. Zola
This is where I am too. I definitely think the type of response the Nightmare Raids debacle deserved, but we’ve seen an act like this before on a single mode, only to then blame the players the next time around… or ghost on things like the medium intercept issue… letting it cost us resources and frustration with no action or meaningful acknowledgement for months.
This type of response needs to become the new normal or it’s just a single act that doesn’t demonstrate change. Vega’s first two videos on the topic clearly point to this being the straw that broke the camel’s back… and that was spot on. Mishandling of Raids and BGs are the tip of the iceberg that led to this.
Which is why the about face… really just caused me to unfollow that channel. All evidence points to him being a decent dude, and if this single action and the flowery words make him feel good… well it’s a personal choice. I just don’t care for that type of waffling in how I consume information or entertainment… so I’m gonna be done there.
As for me, I need more, more in the form of action and execution outside of a damn same. The Bastion Store error happening around this time really only has entrenched me into no longer spending for the foreseeable future.
Appreciate the interaction @KabamPinwheel —your willingness to engage is always impressive.
Certainly, I hope the issues raised by content creators get addressed…but I also hope other issues don’t get deprioritized simply because of their spotlighting BGs and Raids.
I doubt I’m the only one who still sees input issues and frame stutter/lag on a regular basis (and before anyone comments, no, I’m not playing on a circa 2002 Nokia). There’s a lot going on, many of us still greatly enjoy the game and have stuck with it. We’d just like to see game play problems get the attention they deserve as well as mode-specific issues.
Dr. Zola
This is where I am too. I definitely think the type of response the Nightmare Raids debacle deserved, but we’ve seen an act like this before on a single mode, only to then blame the players the next time around… or ghost on things like the medium intercept issue… letting it cost us resources and frustration with no action or meaningful acknowledgement for months.
This type of response needs to become the new normal or it’s just a single act that doesn’t demonstrate change. Vega’s first two videos on the topic clearly point to this being the straw that broke the camel’s back… and that was spot on. Mishandling of Raids and BGs are the tip of the iceberg that led to this.
Which is why the about face… really just caused me to unfollow that channel. All evidence points to him being a decent dude, and if this single action and the flowery words make him feel good… well it’s a personal choice. I just don’t care for that type of waffling in how I consume information or entertainment… so I’m gonna be done there.
As for me, I need more, more in the form of action and execution outside of a damn same. The Bastion Store error happening around this time really only has entrenched me into no longer spending for the foreseeable future.
Yeah, Vega has done this before, which really has rubbed me the wrong way in the past. Don't know why I thought this time was different for some reason
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i think we'll see a new progression title by the end of the year, timed with cyber monday, and they're going to start getting as many progressing players to move up as they reasonably can.
I also strongly agree and have said something Vega said about Raids in general… it’s not a great mode to begin with it’s simply better than AQ, the lowest bar imaginable. This should not be turned into an end game target mode
just go look at ur downvotes on this thread
we just want change, some of us have a passion for the game and that's why we are here.
lot of agrees on the post and alot here who disagree obviosuly those down and up votes do matter lol.
People give creators far to much credit for their ability to influence both a company like Kabam and the whole population of the game.
Not surprised.
I think its like you said, all about publicity and maintaining appearances i.e. "everybody is frustrated and complaining so let me post a video joining in, only just to post a video right after the rewards get buffed to champion Kabam.
Was never a big fan of him as he just never came across as authentic to me, so im not surprised by that video flop.
But that font though agh...
Love yourself a lil more and be kind to your eyes bud!
Vega loves his clickbait money more than the community. People can see it for themselves.
I'm #teamcommunity
I'm also #teamKabam. As in the end, they are the ones responsible for #teamcommunity.
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Certainly, I hope the issues raised by content creators get addressed…but I also hope other issues don’t get deprioritized simply because of their spotlighting BGs and Raids.
I doubt I’m the only one who still sees input issues and frame stutter/lag on a regular basis (and before anyone comments, no, I’m not playing on a circa 2002 Nokia). There’s a lot going on, many of us still greatly enjoy the game and have stuck with it. We’d just like to see game play problems get the attention they deserve as well as mode-specific issues.
Dr. Zola
This type of response needs to become the new normal or it’s just a single act that doesn’t demonstrate change. Vega’s first two videos on the topic clearly point to this being the straw that broke the camel’s back… and that was spot on. Mishandling of Raids and BGs are the tip of the iceberg that led to this.
Which is why the about face… really just caused me to unfollow that channel. All evidence points to him being a decent dude, and if this single action and the flowery words make him feel good… well it’s a personal choice. I just don’t care for that type of waffling in how I consume information or entertainment… so I’m gonna be done there.
As for me, I need more, more in the form of action and execution outside of a damn same. The Bastion Store error happening around this time really only has entrenched me into no longer spending for the foreseeable future.