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Kabam (Osaurus) Rex · May 12

What Is going On Summoners!

I've been seeing lots of buzz about the new Valiant Event Quest flying around, and that makes me a happy dinosaur!
Generally, it seems like y'all have been enjoying this change of pace? Reminder, we'll be running the same test format for JUNE's Event Quest, and testing out another new format in July.

Personally, I ran through EQ for the first time in months, and I had a pretty fun time doing so.

How have we been feeling about this new EQ format?
Let me know all your thoughts, positive AND negative, below!

Newman0067 · May 12

The length and rewards feel perfect. Maybe if you were feeling generous switch out the midway champion switch node with one that full heals, especially if in the future you start to add more and more problem and annoying defenders to the map. Other than that, I had a blast. Good work.

Serdar16 · May 12

Etkinlik ve ödüller güzel fena değil fakat fazla uzun geldi bana daha kısa olabilir. Birde herkeste her sınıftan bol hero olmayabilir ve bu onun eşya kullanmasına sebep olabilir.

The_losttier · May 12

I would love one checkpoint to refill your health half of the mission instead of only use your potion

Average_Desi · May 12

Absolutely fantastic.

Only request would be to fix the bug with Auto play that does not let you back out of a champion swap node.

When there are portals involved, I just press autoplay instead of doing all those clicks. But then that won't let you back out of the champion swap page and check who the defender is .

The relic nodes are fine. They aren't really make or break and can be ignored completely. Except for the one that won't give you power.

Bendy · May 12

So fun challenging and the 1 champ is nice

Steam97 · May 12

As I said in the other forum post I liked the format, difficulty and rewards but I didn't really like the map layout. I mean there were too many confusing portals and I kept losing track of how many fights were left and also there wasn't anything to help understand when the secondary node changes and I had to often check before entering fights and it was a waste of time. If you want to keep the portals at least make them easier to keep track of and put them only when the secondary node changes so that the map is easier to understand and less confusing. So for me the only problem was visually with the weird and confusing map layout.

ButteredPopcorn8008 · May 12

Maybe cut it in half we don’t need 15 path fights that boring and lame

Demonzfyre · May 12

I thought it great. I think we should be allowed to keep using the same champion if we want but other than that, it was good.

Average_Desi · May 12

Demonzfyre said:
I thought it great. I think we should be allowed to keep using the same champion if we want but other than that, it was good.

Nah, wouldn't really test roster breadth. The champion swap isn't in place to help us. It's to force us to use 15 different champs.

VanillaCoke · May 12

ButteredPopcorn8008 said:
Maybe cut it in half we don’t need 15 path fights that boring and lame

15 fights does seem to be a bit of a drag. I’d say maybe 12 or less. 15 felt like a slog though

JackTheSnack · May 12

Demonzfyre said:
I thought it great. I think we should be allowed to keep using the same champion if we want but other than that, it was good.

I think the champion swap was cool, but I do wish we got to keep a certain percentage of our health going. Like, if you’re below 50, automatically round up to 50% or something like that. Or as long as you solo, you start back at 100%. Keeps it from being a potion fest bc only a certain number of champs from each class have regen

Ercarret · May 12

I really enjoyed it. One thing that I REALLY appreciate is that it's something different from Thronebreaker EQ. I was so immensely disappointed in TBEQ when it first launched since it was just Cav EQ but with higher health and attack values for the defenders. It didn't feel like anything new in the slightest. It was just the same thing as what had already grown stale, taking longer to complete.

However, Valiant EQ is something new. It allowed me to dip into parts of my roster that I hadn't used before. I really liked the way it's designed.

Some more constructive thoughts:

* Maybe this will change once we start getting new strikers, but I really did NOT enjoy the occasional "You have to have a striker attached to this champ to utilize this node" switch late into some of the chapters. You had a Spiritualism node in Empires Eternal and a Perpetual Motion node in Un-Steal It, both happening very late into the quest. The problem with that is that you have to use 15 different champions throughout the chapter and there are only four unique strikers per class, to a total of 16 strikers if you've got every striker at every rarity. That means there's a very real chance that you're all out of champions (that work for the general node) with strikers attached once you reach the last five or so fights. That makes those last fights incredibly annoying.

* Related to that: it would be really helpful to have an easy overview of which nodes are going to change throughout the chapter, or at least when those changes are going to occur. It's really cumbersome to have to go through every fight's node setup just to see what you're going up against, which led me to just YOLO things, which again led to problems when I had to have spare striker-having champions towards the end.

* I don't know if this is doable, but I would really appreciate a function to highlight which 15 champs you'd like to use in the chapter and then place them at the top for easy access. Not only would that make it easier to access them instead of constantly having to filter out your top fights just to get a 7r1 champ, but it would also make sure that you don't miss out on using the champs that you've actually ranked up. One thing that annoyed me again and again while playing VEQ was that I never kept track of how many fights were left until the boss, which meant that I kept choosing unranked champions and then noticed that I still had a whole bunch of r2 and r3s (and even the occasional r4) left when I was close to fight the boss. It's similar to how you hoard potions and whatnot in an RPG because "they might be useful against something tougher than what I'm fighting now", and then you just end up with a stash full of amazing stuff that you never used by the time you've beaten the final boss. As much as I liked to get to use my unranked champions, I ranked up the champions I have ranked up for a reason and I want to use them.

But as I said, on the whole, this was a ton of fun. It basically feels like a monthly Crucible, and that's not a bad thing at all.

Ercarret · May 12

One thing I forgot: I'd love if you integrated the story portion into this gauntlet. I think it might be better as an opt-in deal rather than something you actively have to click away every few fights, but I've always enjoyed the story in EQ and don't want to miss out. However, chances are pretty high that I'll abandon TBEQ for VEQ, and that would mean that I miss out on the story. I don't particularly want to slog my way through TBEQ just to catch up on what happens with the story. That's just not fun.

But since I often feel like I'm the only one that actually likes to read the story part of the EQ, I think most people would probably be satisfied with the gauntlet being free from it. But an opt-in feature? Yes please!

Gamer · May 12

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:
What Is going On Summoners!

I've been seeing lots of buzz about the new Valiant Event Quest flying around, and that makes me a happy dinosaur!
Generally, it seems like y'all have been enjoying this change of pace? Reminder, we'll be running the same test format for JUNE's Event Quest, and testing out another new format in July.

Personally, I ran through EQ for the first time in months, and I had a pretty fun time doing so.

How have we been feeling about this new EQ format?
Let me know all your thoughts, positive AND negative, below!

I liked it to but dislike when there like 2 fights portals and then another 3 portals it was just to genuinely dumb and miss placed also the cosmic quest needed relice then mid way u didn’t

Searmenis · May 12

Great idea, really nice execution, but, you ll have to change some nodes to more generic, since it s a 15-champions lane: No nodes like "use Avengers" in a class specific quest, where only one or 2 champions meet the requirements. And, the use relics thing, we don t have so many of them, and even if we go and switch them in every couple of fights, that s additional effort wasting for no reason, it takes away the fun.

And I ll agree that we need a pit stop in the middle, where, once, health goes to 100% again after the next champion choice.

phillgreen · May 12

Ercarret said:

But since I often feel like I'm the only one that actually likes to read the story part of the EQ, I think most people would probably be satisfied with the gauntlet being free from it. But an opt-in feature? Yes please!

I do run throughs of the lower difficulties, read the story on the UC run through, then run through cav and explore TB and skip the dialogue.

I also enjoy the story and I think the writers do a good job.

phillgreen · May 12

I like valiant eq, enjoyed using some champs that just sit around otherwise. Not sure about the portal format as it made it a bit annoying trying to look around for defenders that might need specific counters but that a minor niggle and not the end of the world.

Not fussed about a heal node but it might be nice after say, fight 10. It's supposed to be difficult and only the best should get through itemless in my opinion.

Wildone1 · May 12

Add:
-Maybe instead of one full heal, there was a node that when you KO the opponent you gain back 10% of your full health. That way it is 140% health gained throughout the quest instead of just %100 all at once.

Positive:
-I like having 15 fights and having to use different champions, it forces me to pull out champions I haven't played in awhile or otherwise wouldn't play. Not to mention I had FUN with those champs, they may not be the best but they were at least fun.

Negative:
-The amount of jump portals, it is an unnecessary amount of jumps. One line of champions would be sufficient I feel.
-Also, the relic nodes... when your roster is tested by that many champions, for only one class, utilizing so very few relics, it becomes tedious to manage. Perhaps will be better once they release more relics for each class.

Standardman1989 · May 12

I really like the concept it allows you to use 7* that we don't use often and the rewards are nice. Maybe a little less fight it would just be the slightly negative remark. Only to chirp

Demonzfyre · May 12

ButteredPopcorn8008 said:
Maybe cut it in half we don’t need 15 path fights that boring and lame

Definitely not. They aren't even hard fights.

Demonzfyre · May 12

Average_Desi said:

Demonzfyre said:
I thought it great. I think we should be allowed to keep using the same champion if we want but other than that, it was good.
Nah, wouldn't really test roster breadth. The champion swap isn't in place to help us. It's to force us to use 15 different champs.

I don't have a problem with it at all. In fact, I like using different ones but in the case like Aegon or others that needed more fights, might be good. Totally fine with how it currently is.

Vendemiaire · May 13

My only issue was the "Relic" one. I have come back from 2 years of hiatus and I was surprised that I have more fingers on one of my hand than added Relics since its release. Considering that we have a very alarming low amount of Relics. adding a relic to a champ that doesn't have one, is one of the most annoying thing in the game right now. Add Relic -> Remove Relic -> Unbind -> Bla bla bla. That's like 10 screen shifts just for adding one.

The rest? *chef's kiss* EQ and SQ has been stale since the introduction of TB EQ, I enjoyed this one leagues better.

P.S. I was about to write a diss track to Kabam about Relics until they announced New Relics are coming soon.

Jack2634 · May 13

As much as i like the new quest, i feel like after each champ switching node, we should have gotten healed up a bit. I was using suicides and hell, it wasn't a great experience, ended up swapping back to normal masteries again. Even without suicides, the quest felt punishing, as in normal quest, if you make a mistake, you still have 4 champs left, while in valiant gauntlet it is very unforgiving

jdschw · May 13

I loved Valiant EQ, I think this new content is a major win. Really nicely done. I really liked the need to dig into my bullpen for champs, and figure out who would work for what fight.

Thoughts:
* Since you're just recycling most of the nodes from TBEQ, a lot of these simply don't make sense with this VEQ format. For example, any node that awards cross-fight charges is completely pointless when you have to switch champs every fight. You should either modify these nodes so they stick to the next champ, or you should swap these out for more relevant nodes.
* Many people have complained about the node changes (especially the relic-dependent ones), and folks have also mentioned the unnecessary teleports. Here's my two cents: use the teleports as an indication for when nodes change. In other words, for all champs with the same nodes, leave them connected. Then, when you want to change nodes, use a teleport. That way, it's a simple, straightforward indication to folks about how many different node setups they need to review before they get started.
* I don't know if this is possible, but it would be nice to have a "go back one" button, similar to the "undo" button we have in AQ/AW. The idea here is, if you choose really poorly and get stuck at one fight, you get a chance to back up tot the swap node and choose a different champ. You could limit it to one per quest, and you still lose access to the champ you swapped out, which I think would balance the ability.
* One downside of this format is that we don't get to use synergies at all. I don't have any brilliant idea here, but it'd be nice if we could use them, since this is single-player format. Maybe give us 3 slots instead of one, but force us to swap *all* champs each node? That might end up confusing people, though.

All in all I really liked it. Two thumbs up, and I hope these suggestions help.

willrun4adonut · May 13

I loved almost every aspect of it (the only thing I didn't was not having the dialogue and the portals, but that's minor).

I am curious for those who say you need a healing node, what do you use your revives and potions on that you get from The Apothecary and the DSE? I have so many in overflow I don't even worry if I have to use one, two or many on an event.

Newman0067 · May 13

willrun4adonut said:
I loved almost every aspect of it (the only thing I didn't was not having the dialogue and the portals, but that's minor).

I am curious for those who say you need a healing node, what do you use your revives and potions on that you get from The Apothecary and the DSE? I have so many in overflow I don't even worry if I have to use one, two or many on an event.

For now we don't really need healing, but the maps were also missing alot of champions that would require atleast some healing if they were to be introduced in the future. Its more of a future proofing idea instead of getting blindsided later on. Even the best player in the world would need healing after a Domino in the wrong class quest.

willrun4adonut · May 13

Newman0067 said:

willrun4adonut said:
I loved almost every aspect of it (the only thing I didn't was not having the dialogue and the portals, but that's minor).

I am curious for those who say you need a healing node, what do you use your revives and potions on that you get from The Apothecary and the DSE? I have so many in overflow I don't even worry if I have to use one, two or many on an event.
For now we don't really need healing, but the maps were also missing alot of champions that would require atleast some healing if they were to be introduced in the future. Its more of a future proofing idea instead of getting blindsided later on. Even the best player in the world would need healing after a Domino in the wrong class quest.

Thanks. I'll accept that answer.

phillgreen · May 13

willrun4adonut said:
I loved almost every aspect of it (the only thing I didn't was not having the dialogue and the portals, but that's minor).

I am curious for those who say you need a healing node, what do you use your revives and potions on that you get from The Apothecary and the DSE? I have so many in overflow I don't even worry if I have to use one, two or many on an event.

I didn't heal, just blew 40% revives when required if I didn't have a regen option and yeah, they were gonna expire anyway.

BuggyDClown · May 13

My views are very different than other. I posted this same comment in other thread. Posting here again for more clarity.

New valiant eq have some really really good rewards

But in terms of gameplay I'm disappointed.

First, It felt like chore and boring. Like 15 fights in row where you have to change champ without having option to keep same champ. This personally felt really like low blow to champs who are cross fight ramp up monsters like Morning star, Cull (yes I still use him cuz he's fun)etc.

Second:It's straight up copy paste of TB eq with some extra hp. Like same old coffe but in new mug. C'mon atleast throw some new nodes to us. It felt like Paragon difficult especially after seeing title which reflected Paragon difficulty in description 😂😂. Now only boss fights kind of felt that it matches the valiant aspect.

Third:Due to point no 1, relic doesn't makes sense in such eq. Because they serve less purpose when you have to fight 15 different champs with 15 different champs with class restrictions. No matter how deep account is, not every one will go and re-equip all relics to maximize for all 15 fights or do we even have enough for same class ??? Arguments can be made but on major part it's just another shortcoming rather than benefit.

For different type of valiants, this eq is different. I am average/above average skilled player. I liked Necro. I liked Epoch. I liked Crucible. I have explored all these 3.Usually if I have negative thoughts regarding content, I first test it after release then speak. This Eq imo doesn't excited me at all. Even during the announcement I had some doubts regarding format and all but here I am.

I don't want to be rude but at same time I can't sugercoat my words as well. I know game team is putting in lot of efforts and don't want to disrespect their hardwork. But at same time it doesn't cut out how it was done. I am happy it was recognised that valiant players need fun and some challenging content monthly basis. So expectations regarding gameplay was high. But this felt like totally geared towards Paragons not the valiants. Just increase in hp pool don't reflect the gap being closed for the players.

I have been watching you guys from long time tho Dave was absent in between. Dave and KM, please think it as fellow mcoc player. I know you do have certain obligation as employees as well but I find hard to believe you didn't see that coming especially my 2 point. I hope during this trial and error phase, things will change for future.

Sorry for long write up.
Summary: Rewards are good but gameplay and format doesn't align with valiant aspects imo.

Toproller89 · May 13

I liked it, just sprinkle a few life transfer nodes into the mix and we good.

Decent length, energy cost is low and not difficult but felt rewarding.

I also like the paragauntlet being unlocked straight up

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