iPhone users missing out on getting wrongly banned and a huge compensation
Thanks Apple
That's what you get for using an inferior device. Apple has been rotting since SJ passed.
Apple has been rotting since they removed the charger when you buy an iPhone
And all the android phone brands started following that bad example and make it a standard within the smartphone industry
I got a charger from buying iPad and I used it to charge my iPhone
What a disgrace Apple
Samsung did it first, like all things Apple does...
Except that ridiculous Activation Lock. You try purchasing a lot of 50 devices and contacting the original owners. Spend a couple grand and Apple still owns it.
Why would you try to buy a bunch of devices second hand from a person without knowing or ensuring there's no lock on the phone?
Sounds like the LITERAL reason Activation Lock exists.
I might not know about devices but I do have other category stores. When you buy in bulk 2nd hand you already assume a margin of loss in the profit. Its not like all 50 devices are going to have the same problem.
Remember the compensation is just a digital good conjured out of thin air by the game developer
It cost nothing to them actually like how a central bank prints money by typing more zeros in the banking system
The value is actually perceived by the players who play the game and conferred upon it a monetary value in their mind
Not really. Everything costs money in the game. Someone designs it, someone balances it when it goes too far, someone works to sell it, on and on. That's the misconception, but everything has a value.
I agree with your point, just hosting the game on Google servers cost alot of money actually
That's the monthly cost
But to create 1 billion units to sell to players will have zero marginal cost, I just need to type a long string of zeros with my finger
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them. There's a reason why Kabam does not normally provide information on bans to, say, alliance leaders, or discuss them on the forums unless the person comes forward first and outs themselves.
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
iPhone users missing out on getting wrongly banned and a huge compensation
Thanks Apple
That's what you get for using an inferior device. Apple has been rotting since SJ passed.
Apple has been rotting since they removed the charger when you buy an iPhone
And all the android phone brands started following that bad example and make it a standard within the smartphone industry
I got a charger from buying iPad and I used it to charge my iPhone
What a disgrace Apple
Samsung did it first, like all things Apple does...
Except that ridiculous Activation Lock. You try purchasing a lot of 50 devices and contacting the original owners. Spend a couple grand and Apple still owns it.
Why would you try to buy a bunch of devices second hand from a person without knowing or ensuring there's no lock on the phone?
Sounds like the LITERAL reason Activation Lock exists.
I might not know about devices but I do have other category stores. When you buy in bulk 2nd hand you already assume a margin of loss in the profit. Its not like all 50 devices are going to have the same problem.
This is correct. To elaborate, in order to be profitable, you need the lowest price and the best quality to maximize profit. Which means bulk purchasing tends to be the best. So you use resources like consolidation sales, auctions, and companies recouping costs mostly. There's usually a margin you consider for loss. I've seen some terrible deals where it was 75% loss. You learn, and grow. Now we barely have loss because we research and use trusted sources. However, there's always the odd one or two in a batch of many devices. We don't know who owned it, we bought it in a lot of 20-100 devices.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them.
Sure this would be true IF those account get a permanent, unremovable indicator they were banned at one point but in a couple of weeks there will be absolutely no way to tell who or who wasn’t inappropriately banned. And thereby this players got a great compensation package for a week off the game and being removed from their alliance (in some case temporarily and I’m sure now that there’s more detail they can go back).
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them.
Sure this would be true IF those account get a permanent, unremovable indicator they were banned at one point but in a couple of weeks there will be absolutely no way to tell who or who wasn’t inappropriately banned. And thereby this players got a great compensation package for a week off the game and being removed from their alliance (in some case temporarily and I’m sure now that there’s more detail they can go back).
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
It's up to their discretion how much they compensate, but part of compensation is about making up what they missed out on, and sometimes it's about making a good faith gesture for the stress. These people were accused of something and banned. That's stressful. If Kabam added extra to make up for it, good on them. I don't think we need our hand in everyone else's cookie jar all the time.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them.
Sure this would be true IF those account get a permanent, unremovable indicator they were banned at one point but in a couple of weeks there will be absolutely no way to tell who or who wasn’t inappropriately banned. And thereby this players got a great compensation package for a week off the game and being removed from their alliance (in some case temporarily and I’m sure now that there’s more detail they can go back).
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
It's up to their discretion how much they compensate, but part of compensation is about making up what they missed out on, and sometimes it's about making a good faith gesture for the stress. These people were accused of something and banned. That's stressful. If Kabam added extra to make up for it, good on them. I don't think we need our hand in everyone else's cookie jar all the time.
You’re flat out wrong. 10k account got banned, let’s even assume 80% (which is EXTREMELY generous) were false positives, that means that 8k people got a week off from the game, the best compensation package in history (this can’t be argued), and NOTHING will be remember or her able to be tracked within a month(at most). If kabam insists on OVERLY compensating false positives for a mistake on kabam’s behalf I either want a) a permanent indicator on those players accounts or I want specific kabam employees to be named and fired.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them.
Sure this would be true IF those account get a permanent, unremovable indicator they were banned at one point but in a couple of weeks there will be absolutely no way to tell who or who wasn’t inappropriately banned. And thereby this players got a great compensation package for a week off the game and being removed from their alliance (in some case temporarily and I’m sure now that there’s more detail they can go back).
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
It's up to their discretion how much they compensate, but part of compensation is about making up what they missed out on, and sometimes it's about making a good faith gesture for the stress. These people were accused of something and banned. That's stressful. If Kabam added extra to make up for it, good on them. I don't think we need our hand in everyone else's cookie jar all the time.
You’re flat out wrong. 10k account got banned, let’s even assume 80% (which is EXTREMELY generous) were false positives, that means that 8k people got a week off from the game, the best compensation package in history (this can’t be argued), and NOTHING will be remember or her able to be tracked within a month(at most). If kabam insists on OVERLY compensating false positives for a mistake on kabam’s behalf I either want a) a permanent indicator on those players accounts or I want specific kabam employees to be named and fired.
Honestly, they can't win. They make a mistake, people jump on them. They take responsibility, it's not enough. They fix something, they should compensate. The compensation isn't enough, people picket. Now it's too much compensation. Just be happy for people. Good Lord.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them.
Sure this would be true IF those account get a permanent, unremovable indicator they were banned at one point but in a couple of weeks there will be absolutely no way to tell who or who wasn’t inappropriately banned. And thereby this players got a great compensation package for a week off the game and being removed from their alliance (in some case temporarily and I’m sure now that there’s more detail they can go back).
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
It's up to their discretion how much they compensate, but part of compensation is about making up what they missed out on, and sometimes it's about making a good faith gesture for the stress. These people were accused of something and banned. That's stressful. If Kabam added extra to make up for it, good on them. I don't think we need our hand in everyone else's cookie jar all the time.
You’re flat out wrong. 10k account got banned, let’s even assume 80% (which is EXTREMELY generous) were false positives, that means that 8k people got a week off from the game, the best compensation package in history (this can’t be argued), and NOTHING will be remember or her able to be tracked within a month(at most). If kabam insists on OVERLY compensating false positives for a mistake on kabam’s behalf I either want a) a permanent indicator on those players accounts or I want specific kabam employees to be named and fired.
How about C) a cheeseburger with a side of who cares about what you want or demand as if you were the CEO of Netmarble? Rofl some people I swear...
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them.
Sure this would be true IF those account get a permanent, unremovable indicator they were banned at one point but in a couple of weeks there will be absolutely no way to tell who or who wasn’t inappropriately banned. And thereby this players got a great compensation package for a week off the game and being removed from their alliance (in some case temporarily and I’m sure now that there’s more detail they can go back).
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
It's up to their discretion how much they compensate, but part of compensation is about making up what they missed out on, and sometimes it's about making a good faith gesture for the stress. These people were accused of something and banned. That's stressful. If Kabam added extra to make up for it, good on them. I don't think we need our hand in everyone else's cookie jar all the time.
You’re flat out wrong. 10k account got banned, let’s even assume 80% (which is EXTREMELY generous) were false positives, that means that 8k people got a week off from the game, the best compensation package in history (this can’t be argued), and NOTHING will be remember or her able to be tracked within a month(at most). If kabam insists on OVERLY compensating false positives for a mistake on kabam’s behalf I either want a) a permanent indicator on those players accounts or I want specific kabam employees to be named and fired.
80% weren't false.
Thanks Sherlock. Hench, the phrase “extremely generous”.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them.
Sure this would be true IF those account get a permanent, unremovable indicator they were banned at one point but in a couple of weeks there will be absolutely no way to tell who or who wasn’t inappropriately banned. And thereby this players got a great compensation package for a week off the game and being removed from their alliance (in some case temporarily and I’m sure now that there’s more detail they can go back).
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
It's up to their discretion how much they compensate, but part of compensation is about making up what they missed out on, and sometimes it's about making a good faith gesture for the stress. These people were accused of something and banned. That's stressful. If Kabam added extra to make up for it, good on them. I don't think we need our hand in everyone else's cookie jar all the time.
You’re flat out wrong. 10k account got banned, let’s even assume 80% (which is EXTREMELY generous) were false positives, that means that 8k people got a week off from the game, the best compensation package in history (this can’t be argued), and NOTHING will be remember or her able to be tracked within a month(at most). If kabam insists on OVERLY compensating false positives for a mistake on kabam’s behalf I either want a) a permanent indicator on those players accounts or I want specific kabam employees to be named and fired.
80% weren't false.
I understand that, hence the phrase “extremely generous”. I don’t think 8k people got the the compensation but since they’re being extremely secretive with information there’s no way to tell 1) how many accounts are and 2) how many accounts are truly false positives. Kabam could reveal #1 (but they won’t because they’re shady) but I know they can’t reveal #2 (because they’re incompetent)
4.5k units and 30k radiance for a five day ban? That seems very excessive to me lol.
The greatest compensation in the history of the game by millions of miles and far from the most significant issue the game has faced. And a better reward/stress ratio than Wheel of Fate. What an absolutely awful week this has been.
Honestly, they can't win. They make a mistake, people jump on them. They take responsibility, it's not enough. They fix something, they should compensate. The compensation isn't enough, people picket. Now it's too much compensation. Just be happy for people. Good Lord.
You truly will defend kabam no matter what won’t you. I give credit for kabam partially owning their mistake but when they give out the LARGEST compensation package in the 10+ year history of the game I think a little more accountability (name names), explanation, accountability, and equality is warranted.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them.
Sure this would be true IF those account get a permanent, unremovable indicator they were banned at one point but in a couple of weeks there will be absolutely no way to tell who or who wasn’t inappropriately banned. And thereby this players got a great compensation package for a week off the game and being removed from their alliance (in some case temporarily and I’m sure now that there’s more detail they can go back).
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
It's up to their discretion how much they compensate, but part of compensation is about making up what they missed out on, and sometimes it's about making a good faith gesture for the stress. These people were accused of something and banned. That's stressful. If Kabam added extra to make up for it, good on them. I don't think we need our hand in everyone else's cookie jar all the time.
You’re flat out wrong. 10k account got banned, let’s even assume 80% (which is EXTREMELY generous) were false positives, that means that 8k people got a week off from the game, the best compensation package in history (this can’t be argued), and NOTHING will be remember or her able to be tracked within a month(at most). If kabam insists on OVERLY compensating false positives for a mistake on kabam’s behalf I either want a) a permanent indicator on those players accounts or I want specific kabam employees to be named and fired.
How about C) a cheeseburger with a side of who cares about what you want or demand as if you were the CEO of Netmarble? Rofl some people I swear...
Another white knight looking to suckle the teet. Enjoy licking young-sik and seungwon boots
Honestly, they can't win. They make a mistake, people jump on them. They take responsibility, it's not enough. They fix something, they should compensate. The compensation isn't enough, people picket. Now it's too much compensation. Just be happy for people. Good Lord.
You truly will defend kabam no matter what won’t you. I give credit for kabam partially owning their mistake but when they give out the LARGEST compensation package in the 10+ year history of the game I think a little more accountability (name names), explanation, accountability, and equality is warranted.
To who? To the people that weren't banned?... Is it the best compensation ever in 10 years? Yes, did they have a bunch of people caught in a banwave in 10 years before? No. Pretty sure the other 2 stories of people wrongfully banned that we know about in the forums also had a pretty good compensation package.
Right? The amount of work I'd have to do for 30,000 Radiance is SO much more than not being able to play the game for a week. It's insane.
Remember, the compensation package is not just a way to mitigate lost rewards. False positive bans happened during a large ban wave where the narrative was those people were doing something wrong, and it was visible enough that a lot of people had that Scarlet Letter pinned to them.
Sure this would be true IF those account get a permanent, unremovable indicator they were banned at one point but in a couple of weeks there will be absolutely no way to tell who or who wasn’t inappropriately banned. And thereby this players got a great compensation package for a week off the game and being removed from their alliance (in some case temporarily and I’m sure now that there’s more detail they can go back).
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
It's up to their discretion how much they compensate, but part of compensation is about making up what they missed out on, and sometimes it's about making a good faith gesture for the stress. These people were accused of something and banned. That's stressful. If Kabam added extra to make up for it, good on them. I don't think we need our hand in everyone else's cookie jar all the time.
You’re flat out wrong. 10k account got banned, let’s even assume 80% (which is EXTREMELY generous) were false positives, that means that 8k people got a week off from the game, the best compensation package in history (this can’t be argued), and NOTHING will be remember or her able to be tracked within a month(at most). If kabam insists on OVERLY compensating false positives for a mistake on kabam’s behalf I either want a) a permanent indicator on those players accounts or I want specific kabam employees to be named and fired.
How about C) a cheeseburger with a side of who cares about what you want or demand as if you were the CEO of Netmarble? Rofl some people I swear...
Another white knight looking to suckle the teet. Enjoy licking young-sik and seungwon boots
You are acting like an idiot cause other people are getting compensated, I am not defending Kabam I am making fun of you dumbo.
Honestly, they can't win. They make a mistake, people jump on them. They take responsibility, it's not enough. They fix something, they should compensate. The compensation isn't enough, people picket. Now it's too much compensation. Just be happy for people. Good Lord.
You truly will defend kabam no matter what won’t you. I give credit for kabam partially owning their mistake but when they give out the LARGEST compensation package in the 10+ year history of the game I think a little more accountability (name names), explanation, accountability, and equality is warranted.
Is it the best compensation ever in 10 years? Yes, did they have a bunch of people caught in a banwave in 10 years before?
Are there other issue impacting the game that a far majority of players have been experiencing for years that have yet to been compensated? Yes
Are we ever likely to see compensation for that? No
4.5k units and 30k radiance for a five day ban? That seems very excessive to me lol.
The greatest compensation in the history of the game by millions of miles and far from the most significant issue the game has faced. And a better reward/stress ratio than Wheel of Fate. What an absolutely awful week this has been.
One free r3 (two if you're buying t4 alpha only) + $150 worth of units for a five day ban is easily the greatest compensation we've ever seen so far I agree, terrible week for the game on every aspect possible.
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All your sins are forgiven so let's ask for compensation together from Kabam
That's the monthly cost
But to create 1 billion units to sell to players will have zero marginal cost, I just need to type a long string of zeros with my finger
False positive bans cost players rewards, but at least in Kabam's eyes it also was a major issue for which compensation was warranted completely separate from lost rewards.
There is a big difference between someone willing to voluntarily stay away from the game for a week and grab a big bucket of rewards, and someone who was unwillingly banned who did nothing wrong and had no idea how to rectify that situation, and had lots of people assume they did something wrong and were lying about it. That's why I believe compensation is scaled as it is. There's no "fair price" for that mistake, and there's no way to easily analogize it to some other voluntary situation.
Now we barely have loss because we research and use trusted sources. However, there's always the odd one or two in a batch of many devices. We don't know who owned it, we bought it in a lot of 20-100 devices.
This compensation package is the most insane thing kabam has ever given out. $150 worth of units plus achieving ALL the “strech” objectives, for the “most valuable” game currency of hitting 200 points in GC within 2 weeks (which they also f’d up the seasons staring ranks and gave no radiance nor units comp) plus a half week of aq glory and aw loyalty (that was likely double dipped). I’m just blown away at how kabam gave away a non-insignificant amount of the two most valuable for their mess up (I will censor myself so this most doesn’t get removed)
@KabamDORK @KabamPinwheel @Karatemike415 (since I can’t tag his kabam account) @“kabamcrashed” I think the rest of the community is warranted additional explanation.
What do the users summoners get for not showing up on the lists at all? 🧐
Rofl some people I swear...
What an absolutely awful week this has been.
Is it the best compensation ever in 10 years? Yes, did they have a bunch of people caught in a banwave in 10 years before? No.
Pretty sure the other 2 stories of people wrongfully banned that we know about in the forums also had a pretty good compensation package.
Are we ever likely to see compensation for that? No