Kabam should have definitely fixed the plethora of bugs before increasing the difficulty of AQ and they also definitely should have increased the rewards.
At the higher levels you are expected to finish your path and Kabam knows this (I play for an ally whose starting prestige is +6000) So now not only in AW are we expected to clear our paths without deaths (and hence even the best are using some items) but also we are now expected to clear our paths in AQ, regardless of the bugs and harder content. This really looks like a desperate attempt to increase revenue, hence the level of complaints is comparable to what we saw with 12.0.
If people are going to quit over a change to AQ, they were probably going to quit either way. I doubt that many people are quitting. It's always the same reaction every time something comes that people don't like. They usually don't go far.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
Once AQ is over today, alliances everywhere, including my own are taking one big collective deep breath to survey the potential damage.
And I am getting the same story from everyone. Kabam introduced a significantly more difficult AQ without fixing the glitches everyone was having first.
The main issues:
dash back not registering, blocks not registering, unintended heavies, unintended mediums, and evade and parry of course being impacted by the dash and block issues.
So, here we all are searching for new players to fill the voids, because glitches plus incresed difficulty forced them out of the game.
All issues have been reported to multiple players. Have you tried using Cyclops?
Wrong. There were countless complaints about the bugs before the Sentinels were added. The Sentinels make a bad problem a little worse because their long reach makes any dash back or blocking problem even harder to deal with. When my game is working better, I don't find Sentinels to be that much of a challenge.
Lag and freezing has been an ongoing issue for me. Well before they decided to add the sentinels to AQ. I was hoping with the latest update they would have addressed the same issues that many players have been having. Instead they didn’t fix any of the issues and made AQ harder.
Lag and freezing has been an ongoing issue for me. Well before they decided to add the sentinels to AQ. I was hoping with the latest update they would have addressed the same issues that many players have been having. Instead they didn’t fix any of the issues and made AQ harder.
Lag continues to be a problem. The above video is a clip from today's AW (tier 3). Pay attention to Voodoo's combo from 10-20 hits. I started screen recording close to 5 minutes before doing the fight, did a round of an arena to make sure the game wouldn't lag during AW. I use an IPhone 7 and have Spectrum internet at 50-100+ MB per second. The lag is on Kabam's end, no one can say device or connection caused this.
Yeah the lag and control bugs have been going on for months on and off for me, but my healers got me through aq, so I sucked it up, We thought we were ok with losses but lost 2 today and maybe 1 more still deciding, they aren’t quitting though they just going to a map 2/3 alliance, to retire and check in occasionally/ never have to buy potions again
We lost so many that we took ten that were left and merged with another alliance in the same boat. One thing is for sure, my wallet will remain closed for this game. Can't see any way it opens back up.
If people are going to quit over a change to AQ, they were probably going to quit either way. I doubt that many people are quitting. It's always the same reaction every time something comes that people don't like. They usually don't go far.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
Key Points: -The game has shifted toward 5* and 6* now. At the same time, you have altered the Featured Crystal so it is more difficult to get our desired champions, which had already been difficult. This introduces player frustration.
-You have also introduced a new monthly event quest that requires more energy, reversing your previous decisions to lower energy costs. No change in rewards. Therefore, it requires more effort for the same rewards, but with the game shift to 5* and 6* champs, these rewards hold less value (as in, a t4b once held more value for a 4* than a 5, when 4s were the focus) than they did previous. More work for less payoff.
-You fail to recognize the Gold Drought. With an increased focus on 5* and 6* champs, with larger gold costs compared to 4* champs upgrades, there is no increase in accessibility to gold. In fact, all solo and alliance events have had their rewards stagnant for over a year--meanwhile the game progresses towards being more demanding on resources. Not only do we have to work harder to scrape by for every resource, but the lack of accessibility is increasingly frustrating.
-AQ: You have made changes that increase difficulty, with once again, no payoff. These changes also require players go alter their playing styles and use different champs. This means that they now require resources to either acquire new champions (which its now more difficult to get specific champs) pr upgrade champs (while resources have been devalued). This enhances player frustration.
-AW: While the introduction of AW Seasons gained interest, it also introduced a lot of stress on alliances fighting for every possible point. Many alliances feel burnt out after this inaugural season's closure. There is now a "breathing room" period since Season 2 did not follow immediately, thus players have went from intense fierce competition to low competition, suddenly.
Conclusion: You have made the bizarre and poorly thought out choice of timing this AW Season end with the above AQ change, shift to 5* and 6* champ focus without increasing resource availability or event rewards, forced us to change champion usage.while making it more difficult to acquire specific ones, and increased the need for player effort while maximizing frustration.
Kabam, you have provided the perfect exit point for many players. I have personally been with this game since it debuted and have devoted countless hours into building up my roster of champions and looking forward to new challenges in the game. Most players will not play the same game their entire life--there will have to be a point to walk away. Electing to intensify player frustration while demanding more of their time, I challenge you to tell me why a player would continue when what you have done is removed the Fun. The game is no longer fun. And you have timed this with the end of the two Alliance modes we were.competing in. You have gave us the perfect exit point. Thank you.
If people are going to quit over a change to AQ, they were probably going to quit either way. I doubt that many people are quitting. It's always the same reaction every time something comes that people don't like. They usually don't go far.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
LOL. bro get off your knees..
It's true. I've seen people say the same thing with every change that comes. PB, WP, 12.0, War, on and on. Giving feedback is one thing. When people keep saying the same thing over and over, it not only becomes redundant, it loses impact. Always the same response. "People are quitting. People are leaving bad Reviews. Money-grubbing Kabam."
It's been one week. They've commented that they're listening to the feedback and looking at the data from the first week. There's no need to keep posting and venting. We have a Thread that's open on the changes that we can comment on, and threatening to quit is not adding anything constructive or practical to use. They're already listening.
Further to that, it's my personal opinion that if people feel the need to quit after something is changed, they're probably already at that point, and there's not a great deal that will stop them. Otherwise it's just a manipulation tactic.
My ally ranked 1297 and 1 BG didn’t clear today. We scored 108 mil and in the previous weeks that wouldn’t get top 1400. Looks like a lot of alliances had trouble running 5x5.
Why would I exert myself or spend money now? To get another crappy 5 star pull? Or so I can get more resources that will expire before I have a 5 star to use them on? I've taken a huge step back. My alliance has lost interest. A large portion of us just don't care anymore. 2 weeks ago we had been a steady 5x5 alliance. This week we only completed 2. And we stayed in the same ranking tier as we've been in. This tells me that we are not isolated. I have no desire to play until the controls do what I expect them to.
In a nutshell, it is a threshold that players have met lately. An "Enough is enough" moment when they realize how much they are actually putting into the increased resource demands of AQ coupled with the increased frequency, pressure and resource demands of AW.
If people are going to quit over a change to AQ, they were probably going to quit either way. I doubt that many people are quitting. It's always the same reaction every time something comes that people don't like. They usually don't go far.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
LOL. bro get off your knees..
It's true. I've seen people say the same thing with every change that comes. PB, WP, 12.0, War, on and on. Giving feedback is one thing. When people keep saying the same thing over and over, it not only becomes redundant, it loses impact. Always the same response. "People are quitting. People are leaving bad Reviews. Money-grubbing Kabam."
It's been one week. They've commented that they're listening to the feedback and looking at the data from the first week. There's no need to keep posting and venting. We have a Thread that's open on the changes that we can comment on, and threatening to quit is not adding anything constructive or practical to use. They're already listening.
Further to that, it's my personal opinion that if people feel the need to quit after something is changed, they're probably already at that point, and there's not a great deal that will stop them. Otherwise it's just a manipulation tactic.
I usually don't engage you but feel the need this time. Your alliance can't put together 2 battlegroups more or less play at a competitive level. Most of the people venting frustration have seen way more than you. We are taking about two different worlds within the game. For you to comment on what competitive alliances are doing is ridiculous. Most of these issues don't even show up until things get competitive so you might as well be commenting on brain surgery. ..you have the same experience with both. Comment if you like but don't expect a reply.
If people are going to quit over a change to AQ, they were probably going to quit either way. I doubt that many people are quitting. It's always the same reaction every time something comes that people don't like. They usually don't go far.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
LOL. bro get off your knees..
It's true. I've seen people say the same thing with every change that comes. PB, WP, 12.0, War, on and on. Giving feedback is one thing. When people keep saying the same thing over and over, it not only becomes redundant, it loses impact. Always the same response. "People are quitting. People are leaving bad Reviews. Money-grubbing Kabam."
It's been one week. They've commented that they're listening to the feedback and looking at the data from the first week. There's no need to keep posting and venting. We have a Thread that's open on the changes that we can comment on, and threatening to quit is not adding anything constructive or practical to use. They're already listening.
Further to that, it's my personal opinion that if people feel the need to quit after something is changed, they're probably already at that point, and there's not a great deal that will stop them. Otherwise it's just a manipulation tactic.
LOL. bro are you brainwashed or something? are you blind to see the state of the game now? open your eyes please
If people are going to quit over a change to AQ, they were probably going to quit either way. I doubt that many people are quitting. It's always the same reaction every time something comes that people don't like. They usually don't go far.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
LOL. bro get off your knees..
It's true. I've seen people say the same thing with every change that comes. PB, WP, 12.0, War, on and on. Giving feedback is one thing. When people keep saying the same thing over and over, it not only becomes redundant, it loses impact. Always the same response. "People are quitting. People are leaving bad Reviews. Money-grubbing Kabam."
It's been one week. They've commented that they're listening to the feedback and looking at the data from the first week. There's no need to keep posting and venting. We have a Thread that's open on the changes that we can comment on, and threatening to quit is not adding anything constructive or practical to use. They're already listening.
Further to that, it's my personal opinion that if people feel the need to quit after something is changed, they're probably already at that point, and there's not a great deal that will stop them. Otherwise it's just a manipulation tactic.
I usually don't engage you but feel the need this time. Your alliance can't put together 2 battlegroups more or less play at a competitive level. Most of the people venting frustration have seen way more than you. We are taking about two different worlds within the game. For you to comment on what competitive alliances are doing is ridiculous. Most of these issues don't even show up until things get competitive so you might as well be commenting on brain surgery. ..you have the same experience with both. Comment if you like but don't expect a reply.
You want to make assumptions that's entirely up to you. The reality is it's the same reaction we always see. Rather than share thoughts in a productive way, people are resorting to the same threat tactics. Completely entitled.
"Give us what we want or we walk.".
basically finishing this week and assessing if i am leaving. I was happy being off the forums but have been active with how terrible this new update is. For infinity war too, infinity war month. is nothing holy/
If people are going to quit over a change to AQ, they were probably going to quit either way. I doubt that many people are quitting. It's always the same reaction every time something comes that people don't like. They usually don't go far.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
LOL. bro get off your knees..
It's true. I've seen people say the same thing with every change that comes. PB, WP, 12.0, War, on and on. Giving feedback is one thing. When people keep saying the same thing over and over, it not only becomes redundant, it loses impact. Always the same response. "People are quitting. People are leaving bad Reviews. Money-grubbing Kabam."
It's been one week. They've commented that they're listening to the feedback and looking at the data from the first week. There's no need to keep posting and venting. We have a Thread that's open on the changes that we can comment on, and threatening to quit is not adding anything constructive or practical to use. They're already listening.
Further to that, it's my personal opinion that if people feel the need to quit after something is changed, they're probably already at that point, and there's not a great deal that will stop them. Otherwise it's just a manipulation tactic.
I usually don't engage you but feel the need this time. Your alliance can't put together 2 battlegroups more or less play at a competitive level. Most of the people venting frustration have seen way more than you. We are taking about two different worlds within the game. For you to comment on what competitive alliances are doing is ridiculous. Most of these issues don't even show up until things get competitive so you might as well be commenting on brain surgery. ..you have the same experience with both. Comment if you like but don't expect a reply.
You want to make assumptions that's entirely up to you. The reality is it's the same reaction we always see. Rather than share thoughts in a productive way, people are resorting to the same threat tactics. Completely entitled.
"Give us what we want or we walk.".
Uh yeah. it's a product, if people don't like a product they don't use it. A company can change the product so people continue to use it... or not and lose costumers. That's how that works. You thick moron.
If people are going to quit over a change to AQ, they were probably going to quit either way. I doubt that many people are quitting. It's always the same reaction every time something comes that people don't like. They usually don't go far.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
LOL. bro get off your knees..
It's true. I've seen people say the same thing with every change that comes. PB, WP, 12.0, War, on and on. Giving feedback is one thing. When people keep saying the same thing over and over, it not only becomes redundant, it loses impact. Always the same response. "People are quitting. People are leaving bad Reviews. Money-grubbing Kabam."
It's been one week. They've commented that they're listening to the feedback and looking at the data from the first week. There's no need to keep posting and venting. We have a Thread that's open on the changes that we can comment on, and threatening to quit is not adding anything constructive or practical to use. They're already listening.
Further to that, it's my personal opinion that if people feel the need to quit after something is changed, they're probably already at that point, and there's not a great deal that will stop them. Otherwise it's just a manipulation tactic.
I usually don't engage you but feel the need this time. Your alliance can't put together 2 battlegroups more or less play at a competitive level. Most of the people venting frustration have seen way more than you. We are taking about two different worlds within the game. For you to comment on what competitive alliances are doing is ridiculous. Most of these issues don't even show up until things get competitive so you might as well be commenting on brain surgery. ..you have the same experience with both. Comment if you like but don't expect a reply.
You want to make assumptions that's entirely up to you. The reality is it's the same reaction we always see. Rather than share thoughts in a productive way, people are resorting to the same threat tactics. Completely entitled.
"Give us what we want or we walk.".
I would be interested to see what your account looks like, where your progress is in the current end game quest content (LOL/act5) and what range your alliance is for AQ and AW. Don’t take it the wrong way but you seem to have against the grain opinions towards everything and I’ve often wondered where your actually at in the game.
If people are going to quit over a change to AQ, they were probably going to quit either way. I doubt that many people are quitting. It's always the same reaction every time something comes that people don't like. They usually don't go far.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
LOL. bro get off your knees..
It's true. I've seen people say the same thing with every change that comes. PB, WP, 12.0, War, on and on. Giving feedback is one thing. When people keep saying the same thing over and over, it not only becomes redundant, it loses impact. Always the same response. "People are quitting. People are leaving bad Reviews. Money-grubbing Kabam."
It's been one week. They've commented that they're listening to the feedback and looking at the data from the first week. There's no need to keep posting and venting. We have a Thread that's open on the changes that we can comment on, and threatening to quit is not adding anything constructive or practical to use. They're already listening.
Further to that, it's my personal opinion that if people feel the need to quit after something is changed, they're probably already at that point, and there's not a great deal that will stop them. Otherwise it's just a manipulation tactic.
I usually don't engage you but feel the need this time. Your alliance can't put together 2 battlegroups more or less play at a competitive level. Most of the people venting frustration have seen way more than you. We are taking about two different worlds within the game. For you to comment on what competitive alliances are doing is ridiculous. Most of these issues don't even show up until things get competitive so you might as well be commenting on brain surgery. ..you have the same experience with both. Comment if you like but don't expect a reply.
You want to make assumptions that's entirely up to you. The reality is it's the same reaction we always see. Rather than share thoughts in a productive way, people are resorting to the same threat tactics. Completely entitled.
"Give us what we want or we walk.".
Uh yeah. it's a product, if people don't like a product they don't use it. A company can change the product so people continue to use it... or not and lose costumers. That's how that works. You thick moron.
When it becomes a threat that people make whenever any change is made that requires adjustment, that's called manipulation. There's a difference between giving feedback and expecting to make all the decisions by threat of leaving. It's their game.
I just wanna say, there are no threat tactics implied by me. Really just reporting exactly what I am seeing here. These players aren't issuing any ultimatums. They have already decided to quit. At some point they asked for help. Somewhere along the way they proposed the problem in public. And now they feel just disillusioned enough to quit over it.
Not some Grand Conspiracy to picket Kabam here. They are just done and leaving the alliances.
You want to make assumptions that's entirely up to you. The reality is it's the same reaction we always see. Rather than share thoughts in a productive way, people are resorting to the same threat tactics. Completely entitled.
"Give us what we want or we walk.".
Players providing detailed examples to support their points is not making assumptions. Many players have shared thoughts in productive ways in this thread (see link provided by @Mmx1991). There are many members on the forum who intentionally ignore well thought out and constructive points because the alternative to ignoring such points is admitting that they are wrong.
Statements such as "the same reaction we always see" is a tactic often used in politics. Similar to the concept of "ad hominem", or discrediting where an opinion comes from instead of addressing the opinion itself because the opinion itself is valid.
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At the higher levels you are expected to finish your path and Kabam knows this (I play for an ally whose starting prestige is +6000) So now not only in AW are we expected to clear our paths without deaths (and hence even the best are using some items) but also we are now expected to clear our paths in AQ, regardless of the bugs and harder content. This really looks like a desperate attempt to increase revenue, hence the level of complaints is comparable to what we saw with 12.0.
I'm sure they don't want to see anyone go. As for me, I'm over people threatening to walk away just to get their own way.
You evaded too early.
All issues have been reported to multiple players. Have you tried using Cyclops?
Lag continues to be a problem. The above video is a clip from today's AW (tier 3). Pay attention to Voodoo's combo from 10-20 hits. I started screen recording close to 5 minutes before doing the fight, did a round of an arena to make sure the game wouldn't lag during AW. I use an IPhone 7 and have Spectrum internet at 50-100+ MB per second. The lag is on Kabam's end, no one can say device or connection caused this.
LOL. bro get off your knees..
Key Points: -The game has shifted toward 5* and 6* now. At the same time, you have altered the Featured Crystal so it is more difficult to get our desired champions, which had already been difficult. This introduces player frustration.
-You have also introduced a new monthly event quest that requires more energy, reversing your previous decisions to lower energy costs. No change in rewards. Therefore, it requires more effort for the same rewards, but with the game shift to 5* and 6* champs, these rewards hold less value (as in, a t4b once held more value for a 4* than a 5, when 4s were the focus) than they did previous. More work for less payoff.
-You fail to recognize the Gold Drought. With an increased focus on 5* and 6* champs, with larger gold costs compared to 4* champs upgrades, there is no increase in accessibility to gold. In fact, all solo and alliance events have had their rewards stagnant for over a year--meanwhile the game progresses towards being more demanding on resources. Not only do we have to work harder to scrape by for every resource, but the lack of accessibility is increasingly frustrating.
-AQ: You have made changes that increase difficulty, with once again, no payoff. These changes also require players go alter their playing styles and use different champs. This means that they now require resources to either acquire new champions (which its now more difficult to get specific champs) pr upgrade champs (while resources have been devalued). This enhances player frustration.
-AW: While the introduction of AW Seasons gained interest, it also introduced a lot of stress on alliances fighting for every possible point. Many alliances feel burnt out after this inaugural season's closure. There is now a "breathing room" period since Season 2 did not follow immediately, thus players have went from intense fierce competition to low competition, suddenly.
Conclusion: You have made the bizarre and poorly thought out choice of timing this AW Season end with the above AQ change, shift to 5* and 6* champ focus without increasing resource availability or event rewards, forced us to change champion usage.while making it more difficult to acquire specific ones, and increased the need for player effort while maximizing frustration.
Kabam, you have provided the perfect exit point for many players. I have personally been with this game since it debuted and have devoted countless hours into building up my roster of champions and looking forward to new challenges in the game. Most players will not play the same game their entire life--there will have to be a point to walk away. Electing to intensify player frustration while demanding more of their time, I challenge you to tell me why a player would continue when what you have done is removed the Fun. The game is no longer fun. And you have timed this with the end of the two Alliance modes we were.competing in. You have gave us the perfect exit point. Thank you.
It's true. I've seen people say the same thing with every change that comes. PB, WP, 12.0, War, on and on. Giving feedback is one thing. When people keep saying the same thing over and over, it not only becomes redundant, it loses impact. Always the same response. "People are quitting. People are leaving bad Reviews. Money-grubbing Kabam."
It's been one week. They've commented that they're listening to the feedback and looking at the data from the first week. There's no need to keep posting and venting. We have a Thread that's open on the changes that we can comment on, and threatening to quit is not adding anything constructive or practical to use. They're already listening.
Further to that, it's my personal opinion that if people feel the need to quit after something is changed, they're probably already at that point, and there's not a great deal that will stop them. Otherwise it's just a manipulation tactic.
This was the proverbial back-breaking straw. We're all getting burnt out. We'll still play but no more money/units spent on the alliance stuff.
I usually don't engage you but feel the need this time. Your alliance can't put together 2 battlegroups more or less play at a competitive level. Most of the people venting frustration have seen way more than you. We are taking about two different worlds within the game. For you to comment on what competitive alliances are doing is ridiculous. Most of these issues don't even show up until things get competitive so you might as well be commenting on brain surgery. ..you have the same experience with both. Comment if you like but don't expect a reply.
LOL. bro are you brainwashed or something? are you blind to see the state of the game now? open your eyes please
You want to make assumptions that's entirely up to you. The reality is it's the same reaction we always see. Rather than share thoughts in a productive way, people are resorting to the same threat tactics. Completely entitled.
"Give us what we want or we walk.".
Uh yeah. it's a product, if people don't like a product they don't use it. A company can change the product so people continue to use it... or not and lose costumers. That's how that works. You thick moron.
I would be interested to see what your account looks like, where your progress is in the current end game quest content (LOL/act5) and what range your alliance is for AQ and AW. Don’t take it the wrong way but you seem to have against the grain opinions towards everything and I’ve often wondered where your actually at in the game.
When it becomes a threat that people make whenever any change is made that requires adjustment, that's called manipulation. There's a difference between giving feedback and expecting to make all the decisions by threat of leaving. It's their game.
Not some Grand Conspiracy to picket Kabam here. They are just done and leaving the alliances.
Players providing detailed examples to support their points is not making assumptions. Many players have shared thoughts in productive ways in this thread (see link provided by @Mmx1991). There are many members on the forum who intentionally ignore well thought out and constructive points because the alternative to ignoring such points is admitting that they are wrong.
Statements such as "the same reaction we always see" is a tactic often used in politics. Similar to the concept of "ad hominem", or discrediting where an opinion comes from instead of addressing the opinion itself because the opinion itself is valid.