Look mate, we are all in the same boat. I'm getting tired of these posts.
Personally I'm kinda glad they are adding all of the older champs into the crystal (aside from a select few: wolvie/strange etc). The way it was before was either go for featured or never get the champ.
They do need to reassess some of the lesser wanted champs, though, to balance the game better.
5* are the new 4*. They will increase the drop rates of shards at some point and we'll be getting them as frequently as we are currently getting 4*.
Then they'll introduce 6*...
Over 50% of the 5* crystal is trash. You know it, I know it, they know it. For me it's actually closer to 70% but I'm being generous.
Considering you need 5 times the amount of shards compared to a 4*, the pool of champions should at least be worthy of some actual damn use. I can't quest, AQ or AW with any of the 4 I recently got. It's a total BS waste of time.
Stop complaining and quest with your 4* champions. They are still viable for ALL quest content, and AQ/AW. 5* champions are the top echelon. Why in god's name does everyone on this forum decide to demand easier access to them? Have you really not played this game long enough to realise how it works?
5* will become easier to attain once they add another rank of champions. Until then, stop whining, and play the damn game.
So to summarize.....they're all useless because you don't roll the ones you want?
This is Sarcasm I can get behind. In stead of complaining about bad champs being in the 5 star crystal just because you want a "God Tier Crystal" where all you can get is Voodoo, Gwenpool, Star Lord, Ultron ect. Why don't we all push for Kabam to improve Luke Cage, improve Spider Gwen. Cant we cut the negativity and work to make it a positive.
I'm sure there will be some trolls that flag this just because all they want to do is complain. For the record my 5 stars are Juggernaut, Winter Soldier, Ronan, Cyclops New Xavier and Spider Man. All of them unduped are mid tier at best you gotta take the good with the bad in this game if you don't like something don't **** about it we need to work with Kabam like we did with a certain Patch 12.0 in March and get things improved.
None of them duped of course (not that any of them are THAT useful duped).
40,000 shards down the drain on worthless champs I'll literally never rank up or use.
What's even funnier is they're including spider Gwen and Luke cage tomorrow.
This game is a mismanaged joke.
From what I've seen on YouTube they are saying to hold your 5star shards until Nov because the champs that are being added are complete garbage but in November they will be adding some really solid champs and your odds of getting a better champion will increase so I would suggest holding your shards til then I know it's a long wait but it could be worth it in the end
From what I've seen on YouTube they are saying to hold your 5star shards until Nov because the champs that are being added are complete garbage but in November they will be adding some really solid champs and your odds of getting a better champion will increase so I would suggest holding your shards til then I know it's a long wait but it could be worth it in the end
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however, I wouldn't put all your stock into what YouTubers say and do. There are a lot of good champs being added to the 5* Crystal before november (rocket, ultron, hulk, lady Thor, Elektra, capt, Mordo, cyclops (blue team), GROOT, x23, av, cb, falcon, nc); all of these champs are "solid" champs. Yes, there are better champs to be added later, but if you've read any posts in the forum lately you can see just how "good" those odds are.
Read champ abilities and learn to play with-in their wheel house and you will see that a lot of the champs I listed (And more) are a lot more solid than you and others think. To say they are garbage is very inaccurate statement though.
He does have a point to an extent. Some of the champs currently there is not that great but the ones they are adding for the next two months are particularly disliked by the community. I have learnt to live with the crappy 4*s but it is a bitter pill to swallow when your hard earned 5* shards gives you a really awful champ. Remember these shards take most of us more than a month to get.
All we ask for is a bit of choice and give us a bit of a chance to dupe something as 5*s are what the game is about now. I would just like to see more crystals with a higher chance of getting something you need, like 5* skill for 15k or 5* originals for 15k etc.
From what I've seen on YouTube they are saying to hold your 5star shards until Nov because the champs that are being added are complete garbage but in November they will be adding some really solid champs and your odds of getting a better champion will increase so I would suggest holding your shards til then I know it's a long wait but it could be worth it in the end
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however, I wouldn't put all your stock into what YouTubers say and do.
The streamers don't all agree either. They often individually represent different reasonable but limited sides of an issue, as do most people. For example, I agree with youtubers like Seatin that recommend waiting on 5* basics in the sense that the quantitative calculation implicit in that recommendation is valid: if you want to maximize the value of the 5* champions you draw, you would want to draw them when the proportion of champions you want relative to the ones you don't want is highest.
On the other hand, I can also understand Brian's attitude towards just pulling, because among other things he is an arena grinder and every 5* helps with arena grinding points. If you wait, you are costing yourself hundreds of thousands of points in arena over many months, which may be a higher cost than the small probability increase of pulling a better champion if you wait. Plus, Brian doesn't spend money, so he's in it as much for the thrill as the efficiency. If you don't take chances, you don't get that feeling of pulling the one champ you wanted at exactly the moment when the prevailing wisdom says not to pull at all.
For me, the game is a balance between efficiency and thrill. Like all MMOs, MCOC is a grind and it rewards efficiency. It can severely penalize inefficiency. On the other hand. if I'm not having fun then I'm just playing ProgressQuest with spreadsheets. For the record, I'm not waiting and I'm not opening either: I'm saving for whenever Iceman shows up again and taking my first shot at featured. I generally don't recommend going for the 5* featured crystal unless you really, really want the featured and are likely to have at least two shots at it. I think I will get to 30k in time, so that's what I'm doing. That's my balance point between thrill and efficiency.
Keep in mind also, when watching the streamers, that many of them already have their LoL teams, or at least a LoL team they are running. That changes the equation for whether to open frequently, save to open, or save for featured. Once you have your LoL team, you are no longer trying to get a really good 5* as much: you are looking to get either more 5* champs or a singularly better one than what you already have. Most players are not yet in that position, and are in a position where they could still be looking for "good enough" rather than either of those options.
There are bad and good characters in every crystal. With the 5 star crystal, they tend to put in mostly amazing or horrible champs. Magik, Mordo, Star Lord, etc, etc are all awesome champs. Colossus, Ant-Man, and Iron Patriot are all notably horrible. There's a few champs in the middle of the pack, but the 5* crystal is mostly just a bunch of extremes to both sides. You've rolled a few bad ones. Just keep buying them and you'll be good eventually. They're coming out with some better champs around November, so if you're really that paranoid about getting bad champs, wait until then. You'll be fine, but don't say it's all garbage, because it's not.
Just enjoy what you get, stop whining, I got the worst champion in the game , I was pissed at first but now I'm chill
So please, if you hate the champs you have, why don't you sell them? Get rid of them if you want to. Wait until Kabam releases new better champions and reduce the chance of getting the champions you hate, if you don't get a good champion after the better release, then complain
And don't open the 5* crystals in July and August and complain about who you get, everyone knows these are the worst months for opening 5* crystals
@DNA3000 - thanks for essay I don't follow any of the streamers. If that's where you stopped on my statement, you missed the jist of it.
My point was, read and learn champ abilities and don't stick to what streamers say and do. I don't have much champ bias and don't follow any streamers. I never implied that the streamers were right or wrong, just that a lot of the champs currently in the 5* Crystal have more use than stated by the OP
@DNA3000 - thanks for essay I don't follow any of the streamers. If that's where you stopped on my statement, you missed the jist of it.
My point was, read and learn champ abilities and don't stick to what streamers say and do. I don't have much champ bias and don't follow any streamers. I never implied that the streamers were right or wrong, just that a lot of the champs currently in the 5* Crystal have more use than stated by the OP
I read all of your statement, as I do all posts in any thread I read. I quoted that part only, because that was the specific part I wanted to reply to. My reply wasn't a refutation of your statement nor was it an implication that was all you had to say.
I hear ya, this is the reason why players like brutalDLx will shell out 5 odins to go for a marvelous crystal and end up with she hulk, getting one of the 5% top champs or a featured is the carrot
Spider Gwen and Luke cage have no business being in 5* crystals..10k or god forbid you drop 15k for a feature and pull one of them..that's beyond a kick to the love pouch
If the worst champs have no place in there, then shouldn't we also take out the best ones? No more Star Lord, or Magik, or Mordo. But you're right, we should get rid of everyone who isn't in the middle of the pack. Just a bunch of Ronan's running around would make us all happy again. If there's no risk, there can't be reward, right?
A guy on Reddit just opened 4 featured 5* crystals and got
2 yellow jacket
Ant Man
Juggy
The game is total BS lol.
yea the pulls in this game are a joke. i mean countless two stars every single day from premiums is just old now and 15k for featured five stars when majority of the champs are **** and the drop rates are crazy
While Im not a fan of the weaker champs being added, like Luke, SG and she-hulk. It had to happen sooner or later. My only suggestion would be that maybe removing basic champs from the feature Crystals and only having the sub pool in there, it would make more people save up. But you would also have to choose if your looking for SL or another basic dupe. Just a thought.
A guy on Reddit just opened 4 featured 5* crystals and got
2 yellow jacket
Ant Man
Juggy
The game is total BS lol.
yea the pulls in this game are a joke. i mean countless two stars every single day from premiums is just old now and 15k for featured five stars when majority of the champs are **** and the drop rates are crazy
I know, right? The 2nd most powerful tier shouldn't be rare, I mean, where's the logic in that?
A guy on Reddit just opened 4 featured 5* crystals and got
2 yellow jacket
Ant Man
Juggy
The game is total BS lol.
yea the pulls in this game are a joke. i mean countless two stars every single day from premiums is just old now and 15k for featured five stars when majority of the champs are **** and the drop rates are crazy
I know, right? The 2nd most powerful tier shouldn't be rare, I mean, where's the logic in that?
if there's a rare and a slim chance to get them than it shouldn't cost as much to buy a crystal but that should just be common sense, you know?
A guy on Reddit just opened 4 featured 5* crystals and got
2 yellow jacket
Ant Man
Juggy
The game is total BS lol.
yea the pulls in this game are a joke. i mean countless two stars every single day from premiums is just old now and 15k for featured five stars when majority of the champs are **** and the drop rates are crazy
I know, right? The 2nd most powerful tier shouldn't be rare, I mean, where's the logic in that?
if there's a rare and a slim chance to get them than it shouldn't cost as much to buy a crystal but that should just be common sense, you know?
Exactly, it should be easy to get the 2nd most powerful tier, otherwise people will have to work hard like the veterans had to, and that just wouldn't be fair. 4 stars should be as common as 2 stars. That's just genius.
Adding champs which have no value to the game and don't seem to have any marketing tie ins requiring them to be added just seems like a very bizarre approach to me. I can't quite figure it.
Adding champs which have no value to the game and don't seem to have any marketing tie ins requiring them to be added just seems like a very bizarre approach to me. I can't quite figure it.
They don't share the view that they add no value to the game. It's their product. Every Champ has value to them, and every Champ represents hours of work.
Adding champs which have no value to the game and don't seem to have any marketing tie ins requiring them to be added just seems like a very bizarre approach to me. I can't quite figure it.
Every champ can be used in Arena, and every champ adds more rating to your account. No one is technically useless.
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Stop complaining and quest with your 4* champions. They are still viable for ALL quest content, and AQ/AW. 5* champions are the top echelon. Why in god's name does everyone on this forum decide to demand easier access to them? Have you really not played this game long enough to realise how it works?
5* will become easier to attain once they add another rank of champions. Until then, stop whining, and play the damn game.
This is Sarcasm I can get behind. In stead of complaining about bad champs being in the 5 star crystal just because you want a "God Tier Crystal" where all you can get is Voodoo, Gwenpool, Star Lord, Ultron ect. Why don't we all push for Kabam to improve Luke Cage, improve Spider Gwen. Cant we cut the negativity and work to make it a positive.
I'm sure there will be some trolls that flag this just because all they want to do is complain. For the record my 5 stars are Juggernaut, Winter Soldier, Ronan, Cyclops New Xavier and Spider Man. All of them unduped are mid tier at best you gotta take the good with the bad in this game if you don't like something don't **** about it we need to work with Kabam like we did with a certain Patch 12.0 in March and get things improved.
Gambit
SIM
IM
WS
Ronan
Rhino.
They don't get used much as I have better 4*s but they help with synergies and are good points in arena.
From what I've seen on YouTube they are saying to hold your 5star shards until Nov because the champs that are being added are complete garbage but in November they will be adding some really solid champs and your odds of getting a better champion will increase so I would suggest holding your shards til then I know it's a long wait but it could be worth it in the end
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however, I wouldn't put all your stock into what YouTubers say and do. There are a lot of good champs being added to the 5* Crystal before november (rocket, ultron, hulk, lady Thor, Elektra, capt, Mordo, cyclops (blue team), GROOT, x23, av, cb, falcon, nc); all of these champs are "solid" champs. Yes, there are better champs to be added later, but if you've read any posts in the forum lately you can see just how "good" those odds are.
Read champ abilities and learn to play with-in their wheel house and you will see that a lot of the champs I listed (And more) are a lot more solid than you and others think. To say they are garbage is very inaccurate statement though.
Happy grinding
All we ask for is a bit of choice and give us a bit of a chance to dupe something as 5*s are what the game is about now. I would just like to see more crystals with a higher chance of getting something you need, like 5* skill for 15k or 5* originals for 15k etc.
The streamers don't all agree either. They often individually represent different reasonable but limited sides of an issue, as do most people. For example, I agree with youtubers like Seatin that recommend waiting on 5* basics in the sense that the quantitative calculation implicit in that recommendation is valid: if you want to maximize the value of the 5* champions you draw, you would want to draw them when the proportion of champions you want relative to the ones you don't want is highest.
On the other hand, I can also understand Brian's attitude towards just pulling, because among other things he is an arena grinder and every 5* helps with arena grinding points. If you wait, you are costing yourself hundreds of thousands of points in arena over many months, which may be a higher cost than the small probability increase of pulling a better champion if you wait. Plus, Brian doesn't spend money, so he's in it as much for the thrill as the efficiency. If you don't take chances, you don't get that feeling of pulling the one champ you wanted at exactly the moment when the prevailing wisdom says not to pull at all.
For me, the game is a balance between efficiency and thrill. Like all MMOs, MCOC is a grind and it rewards efficiency. It can severely penalize inefficiency. On the other hand. if I'm not having fun then I'm just playing ProgressQuest with spreadsheets. For the record, I'm not waiting and I'm not opening either: I'm saving for whenever Iceman shows up again and taking my first shot at featured. I generally don't recommend going for the 5* featured crystal unless you really, really want the featured and are likely to have at least two shots at it. I think I will get to 30k in time, so that's what I'm doing. That's my balance point between thrill and efficiency.
Keep in mind also, when watching the streamers, that many of them already have their LoL teams, or at least a LoL team they are running. That changes the equation for whether to open frequently, save to open, or save for featured. Once you have your LoL team, you are no longer trying to get a really good 5* as much: you are looking to get either more 5* champs or a singularly better one than what you already have. Most players are not yet in that position, and are in a position where they could still be looking for "good enough" rather than either of those options.
I got IP, how bad is Luke Cage and all of your champions?
So please, if you hate the champs you have, why don't you sell them? Get rid of them if you want to. Wait until Kabam releases new better champions and reduce the chance of getting the champions you hate, if you don't get a good champion after the better release, then complain
And don't open the 5* crystals in July and August and complain about who you get, everyone knows these are the worst months for opening 5* crystals
My point was, read and learn champ abilities and don't stick to what streamers say and do. I don't have much champ bias and don't follow any streamers. I never implied that the streamers were right or wrong, just that a lot of the champs currently in the 5* Crystal have more use than stated by the OP
I read all of your statement, as I do all posts in any thread I read. I quoted that part only, because that was the specific part I wanted to reply to. My reply wasn't a refutation of your statement nor was it an implication that was all you had to say.
If the worst champs have no place in there, then shouldn't we also take out the best ones? No more Star Lord, or Magik, or Mordo. But you're right, we should get rid of everyone who isn't in the middle of the pack. Just a bunch of Ronan's running around would make us all happy again. If there's no risk, there can't be reward, right?
yea the pulls in this game are a joke. i mean countless two stars every single day from premiums is just old now and 15k for featured five stars when majority of the champs are **** and the drop rates are crazy
I know, right? The 2nd most powerful tier shouldn't be rare, I mean, where's the logic in that?
spiderman
antman (dupe)
spiderman (dupe)
ironman
antman (dupe)
FINALLY DUPED STARLORD
Seriously though I was getting really pissed with all the garbage champs I was pulling.
if there's a rare and a slim chance to get them than it shouldn't cost as much to buy a crystal but that should just be common sense, you know?
Exactly, it should be easy to get the 2nd most powerful tier, otherwise people will have to work hard like the veterans had to, and that just wouldn't be fair. 4 stars should be as common as 2 stars. That's just genius.
They don't share the view that they add no value to the game. It's their product. Every Champ has value to them, and every Champ represents hours of work.
Every champ can be used in Arena, and every champ adds more rating to your account. No one is technically useless.
Except Joe Fixit. He's useless.