Is the game is getting way harder and are the 4 star champs becoming useless?
Matsterireland
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ive Played this game for 3 years. Seen 3star champs become useless when 5 star champs were introduced. 4 star champs are now effectively useless because you need high 5* champs to do uncollected event quests etc.
I’ve spent thousands in the early days on shards, and crystals etc to grow in power, only to see it all be a gamble and you draw the worst champions. Uncollected event quest is becoming so hard now that I can no longer complete it once, let alone 100% it.
I feel the joy has gone from the game. It’s a rat race that never allows you to reach the top. I’ve become somewhat bitter at the effort and money put in without satisfaction. Are others feeling that it’s getting too hard and all the early work is for nothing. Your 4* maxed heroes are sitting there useless now. Tell me how you feel please?
I’ve spent thousands in the early days on shards, and crystals etc to grow in power, only to see it all be a gamble and you draw the worst champions. Uncollected event quest is becoming so hard now that I can no longer complete it once, let alone 100% it.
I feel the joy has gone from the game. It’s a rat race that never allows you to reach the top. I’ve become somewhat bitter at the effort and money put in without satisfaction. Are others feeling that it’s getting too hard and all the early work is for nothing. Your 4* maxed heroes are sitting there useless now. Tell me how you feel please?
Is the game is getting way harder and are the 4 star champs becoming useless? 207 votes
Yes it’s too hard, 4* champs are now useless too
22%
47 votes
It’s too hard, but 4* are still useful for the time being.
29%
62 votes
It’s too hard, 4* will always work for uncollected event quests.
6%
13 votes
It’s not too hard. It is only for hard core gamers with $$$
1%
4 votes
It’s not too hard. You need super skill
16%
35 votes
It’s easier to do uncollected than this poll
22%
46 votes
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Comments
For veterans, I understand the frustration because 4* characters were a massive investment in time and money.
I am in-between and have the luxury of choosing to invest in 4* or 5* for the massive investment part of my journey. I will be equally frustrated when 6* characters are the norm and my investments have lost value.
The current state of the game makes all characters depreciating assets.
I am hoping that Kabam will find ways to add value to these characters (star specific events).
The "2*-only war" idea, on the posts now, is a great one and could easily morph into a "pick the star level war".
It is safe to assume they spend the most money (at this time), so Kabam has to cater to their needs primarily.
I am hoping that Act 6 (and whatever equivalent events) will allow them to chill on Master and Uncollected.
I feel old 😂
The only exception to this is the constantly used jacked up Iceman that shows up on every 3.2 map. That initial cold snap simply wrecks 4* champs unless you're lucky enough to have a Sabretooth.
Do you use 4* in uncollected or your 5*? Is it only 4* when a specific hero is required?
For those who were fortunate enough to become Uncollected a while back (for me it happened 15 months ago), these events are "easier" simply because we've been playing long enough to have reaped the rewards to build rosters to handle most of this. We're in a position that allows our growth to mirror the changing goalposts.
If you've recently become Uncollected, you'll forever be behind the 8-ball because the goal posts shift each month in the EQ's to cater to the more experienced crowd.
IMO, Kabam needs to do one of two things:
This isn't a single player game. There's no end to reach, no top to reach. Before any significant number of people reach "the top" the game will add more top. You're supposed to understand that when you play a game like this. Online progression games come in two forms. Some games are Infinite treadmills where you're always chasing something even higher and even more difficult. The others are dead.
You have a choice. You can see this game as a game where the developers are constantly adding more and more content, more and more champions to collect, and more and more things to do, and you don't have to pay for *any* of it, if you just simply play the game and not try to reach "the top." Or you can see this game as a game where your goal is to reach the end of something with no end. Both of those are potentially enjoyable depending on your personality, but if you are compelled to race for the end and you will be disappointed in not actually reaching it, then this game (nor any other online multiplayer progressional game) is not for you. It is the one thing this game will never, ever give you.
People say 4* champs are useless. They aren't useless. What they were good for two years ago, they are still good for now. The issue is that players don't want to do what they were doing two years ago, they want to do more, and they expect their 4* champs to scale upward infinitely. 4* champs won't do that. Neither will 5* champs, and neither will 6* champs.
You have to decide how much time and energy you are willing to put into this game, and calibrate your expectations to something reasonable given those limits. If you do, and you can do so without feeling bad about not getting what other players are getting, the game can be very enjoyable. If not, you're falling into the same trap of people who feel bad when they see all their Facebook friends apparently having more fun than they are. You're only seeing the ten percent having a good day that day. You can't compare yourself to that standard constantly; it is demoralizing.
Only time I see using a 4* even in uncollected monthly eq, is when a specific champ cheeses it and I don’t have the r4 version......like I used a maxed 4* AA for aegon.
4* can still have value in high prestige AQ....but even there I’d want at least 1 r4 attacker
That being said, if uve been playing a long time u should have at least a couple 5* options. If u finished act 5 you should have at least 1 but prob 2 or 3 r5 5*
TLDR: Progress isn’t overnight, champs aren’t everything and skill matters. Give it time.
4* will die eventually, but as long 5* shards are difficult to get and t4c are hard to collect, they will have a spot in many rosters. It is also a lot easier to awaken a 4* than a 5*.
Its happened to me every aq and im not the only one.
With very good skill maybe... Not nearly for all
Thanks folks.
It’s goot to know most agree it’s getting harder. It’s good to know half believe there’s still a place for some 4* and most think they’ll eventually drift away to 3* wilderness.
All being said when 6* become the new 5* norm and the introduction of 7* champs.
It’s a rat race and we are only running in the maze.
Thanks again folks for all votes and comments. I can see how passionate you all are about this game.
I’m have the 67th strongest team in my country. I’m finding it’s difficulty is getting out of hand.
I’ve played this game for 4years next month and completed most content. You have to have the right champ to take on the specific node or defender is what I’ve found. I’ve 128 4* heroes. 40 of them maxed - the good ones lol 120 of them I now find useless maxed or not.
I have 40 5* champs. 2 good ones god tier 6 ok Demi god tier and the rest are dirt.
I have only ranked up 5 to 4/5 and 4 to 3/5.
I have 2 6* champs.
I would call myself an average player who invests a lot to build my roster.
You invest and suddenly that investment is a complete waste. This is why I don’t spend anymore.
I’m just deflated by the consistent ramping up of difficulty. I don’t know. Maybe it’s time to put away childish things like this game.
Some pondering will be done.
Thanks again everyone.
Your poll is poor as there’s no option to disagree with both your statements.
While 4*s may one day become as useful as a 3*, that day has not arrived yet. I’ve got a pretty decent 5* roster and still rank up the odd 4*s where I know I’ll get some use out of them.
For example, if I find out a 4* champ I’ve got would make a portion of variant much easier, I’ll rank that 4* up.
I’ve seen that Corvus is pretty good for rogue in chapter 2 of captains clash, so I’ve ranked him up. The last few uncollected quests I’ve used 1-2 5/50s in my runs.
During that champions clash a few months back, my MVPs were 4* vision, CapIW and blade, I brought in my hyperion and iceman too, but the 3 4*s are the reason I completed that challenge.
You just need to plan ahead and understand that this particular quest is made for people with an array of r5 5*s.
However, if you're not that developed and still want the top tier rewards, attempt hard content at your own risk, just like I do.
Now, let me reiterate one more time, Summoners. This is not easy! Many will attempt, and most will fail! Don’t come complaining when you hit a brick wall! Ask your fellow Summoners for tips and tricks!
However, I'm not letting you down, I'm not a vet but still complete hard content because I want the rewards, but I don't create these posts when I fail. Best of luck!!!