Just goes to show really, in a serious tone here, no trolling, no anger, and purely constructive for the future of your game, that you really need to bring in some new staff and either move, or get rid of some current staff, because whoever thought this chain of events was going to end any other way than this, needs to be held accountable, there is literally not a single reason as to why this offer, immediately after the act 6 announcements, would be deemed a good, hell, not even be deemed a partially acceptable, chain of events.
I dont get the upsetness. Dont buy the offer. Nothing mandates you to buy any offer. It's not a good offer even if Act 6 allowed you to use 4*.
I have no problem with 4* not being allowed to be used in the new story content. If you sont have enough 5*, wait til you pull more. Or do Map 6 and get rank up materials for more r4 and r5 5* champs.
If you aren't in a state currently where you can do act 6 without 4* then maybe you aren't ready for act 6. Kabam shouldnt lower the bar, it's about time they raised it.
There is nothing inherently offensive about today's offer. However, it is quite tone-deaf in light of the obvious backlash from the Act 6 announcement. From a public relations standpoint, releasing an expensive 4* offer amidst the discussions of 4* champs being banned from Act 6 was a very poor decision.
We've merged together several topics about the same matter so it can be addressed all at once. We understand that this offer isn't going to appeal to everyone but it will to some, just as the next offer may not appeal to them but to some of you.
Is this a hint that a fantastic offer is coming soon?
We've merged together several topics about the same matter so it can be addressed all at once. We understand that this offer isn't going to appeal to everyone but it will to some, just as the next offer may not appeal to them but to some of you.
Is this a hint that a fantastic offer is coming soon?
No. They're just going to keep churning out offers.
Prices are outrageous. You really want people to contemplate on spending $150 on one..ONE...character. Can we at least get some justification for the prices? Like what is your scale? Do you have a scale? Are you just winging it?
I'm certainly not here to defend this offer, because it is overpriced when compared to the 3* version that's 90% less. But it feels like more of the vitriol heading your way Kabam is in the ABSOLUTE tone deaf timing of this offer. Surely offers like this are created in advance(at least I hope they are for your sake, seeing all the anger about the 4* ban then creating this offer is dumb) but after seeing the outrage of the community over this 4* ban you could have just spent the weekend emergency stripping this deal from the game and pretending it never happened.
I dont get the upsetness. Dont buy the offer. Nothing mandates you to buy any offer. It's not a good offer even if Act 6 allowed you to use 4*.
I have no problem with 4* not being allowed to be used in the new story content. If you sont have enough 5*, wait til you pull more. Or do Map 6 and get rank up materials for more r4 and r5 5* champs.
If you aren't in a state currently where you can do act 6 without 4* then maybe you aren't ready for act 6. Kabam shouldnt lower the bar, it's about time they raised it.
all 4* stars are not the same at Max levels though..I'm sure quite a few folks probably could clear a chapter or two using nothing but 4*
We've merged together several topics about the same matter so it can be addressed all at once. We understand that this offer isn't going to appeal to everyone but it will to some, just as the next offer may not appeal to them but to some of you.
so $500 for a five star offer of the same magnitude? Before anyone says this one was only $150, it was $210 Canadian ..... I get exchange rates etc...this deal makes 0 sense at all. And you guys should be able to strap on the big boy and girl pants today and take all the constructive criticism here.
Netmarble is the company that owns Kabam and MCOC now. They're a publicly-traded South Korean company. I took a look at their Q4 2018 results. I wish it was more detailed, but they give a pretty good breakdown.
Currently, MCOC makes up 18% of their revenue. This has steadily increased since the acquisition. In Q2 2017, the game was 13%. The increase could be for a couple reasons: MCOC revenue rising, Netmarble total revenue flat or falling, or a combination of the two.
Looks like it's more a product of Netmarble's total revenue falling. They're also less profitable than they used to be. Ultimately, it's looking more and more like the company needs MCOC to thrive, so expect increased monetization going forward.
We've merged together several topics about the same matter so it can be addressed all at once. We understand that this offer isn't going to appeal to everyone but it will to some, just as the next offer may not appeal to them but to some of you.
I don't want to take this out on the forum moderators, but I think a lot of players would like to know if anyone at Kabam knows what a blatant slap in the face this is to 99% of players? Even to those who aren't ready for Act 6. Do you realize how greedy and disgusting it looks to be selling something for $100 right after you announce that it'll be useless and obsolete in the near future?
Even if someone could use those resources at the moment, it's a disgusting move just on principle. As players, we realize the game evolves over time and things we've bought or leveled up in the past will eventually become less effective. But to outright ban the use of 4* characters in Act 6 and then turn around and sell 4* rank up materials for $100 is just shameless and out of touch.
I feel like everything I've said in this post is constructive, because it truly does feel like it's something the people coming up with these deals need to hear. Because a lot of people feel insulted by this, and that's something Kabam should be aware of. To not realize how this offer would be received by the majority of the player base is just shocking and kind of embarrassing. It just feels wildly inappropriate, like bursting into laughter at a funeral. Things like this only serve to increase the divide between Kabam and the players, causing frustration and anger. I hope Kabam realizes how wrong and out of touch they were with this offer, and how much they really need to improve in this area.
I mean, not agreeing with the price is reasonable, but I don't understand why people are taking the Offer personally. It's not even directed at their demographic. Different Offers are for different demographics. They're most often planned in advance, and aren't even connected to upcoming changes or new content. There's an entire chunk of the Player Base that is not even at Act 6, that is still working on their 4* Rosters. The game can't stop moving forward in other areas when one population doesn't agree with something. It's not some kind of personal insult. It doesn't even have anything to do with Act 6. It's like stubbing your toe and getting mad at the Payless Ad. Lol.
Granted, I will say that the timing is coincidental, but when you're talking about asking Marketing to verify their plans with Design, that's a whole cross-department mess that's not feasible.
In France, it is 110+55 = 165€ = $185. 1) Completely unfair for all the non-americans. 2) Scandalous offer. I'm very far from act 6 (I've become uncollected 2 months ago), but I would certainly not buy this, and as Prof Hoff said, they have got to be kidding us... I remember an offer when you could get a 5* specific champ (power controlling) + rank 1-->2 + rank 2-->3 gems for $100. When you compare this offer to the one I've just mentionned, there is obviously quite a gap... Though, the $15 offer is not that awful for the very beginners.
Granted, I will say that the timing is coincidental, but when you're talking about asking Marketing to verify their plans with Design, that's a whole cross-department mess that's not feasible.
"when you're talking about asking Marketing to verify their plans with Design, that's a whole cross-department mess that's not feasible."
It's feasible, especially when you have days to prepare. I have worked in companies that range from small to Fortune 500 size, mostly from the finance side but involved with Marketing at times. Not as difficult as you're making it out to be.
I mean, not agreeing with the price is reasonable, but I don't understand why people are taking the Offer personally. It's not even directed at their demographic. Different Offers are for different demographics. They're most often planned in advance, and aren't even connected to upcoming changes or new content. There's an entire chunk of the Player Base that is not even at Act 6, that is still working on their 4* Rosters. The game can't stop moving forward in other areas when one population doesn't agree with something. It's not some kind of personal insult. It doesn't even have anything to do with Act 6. It's like stubbing your toe and getting mad at the Payless Ad. Lol.
It feels more like Payless amputating your foot and then trying to sell you a shoe.
I mean, not agreeing with the price is reasonable, but I don't understand why people are taking the Offer personally. It's not even directed at their demographic. Different Offers are for different demographics. They're most often planned in advance, and aren't even connected to upcoming changes or new content. There's an entire chunk of the Player Base that is not even at Act 6, that is still working on their 4* Rosters. The game can't stop moving forward in other areas when one population doesn't agree with something. It's not some kind of personal insult. It doesn't even have anything to do with Act 6. It's like stubbing your toe and getting mad at the Payless Ad. Lol.
It feels more like Payless amputating your foot and then trying to sell you a shoe.
Granted, I will say that the timing is coincidental, but when you're talking about asking Marketing to verify their plans with Design, that's a whole cross-department mess that's not feasible.
"when you're talking about asking Marketing to verify their plans with Design, that's a whole cross-department mess that's not feasible."
No, it isn't. I have worked in companies that range from small to Fortune 500 size, mostly from the finance side but involved with Marketing at times. Not as difficult as you're making it out to be.
Not the same ballpark. Not at all. There are way too many variables involved with Design. They are most certainly working on something at all times, sometimes months in advance, and nothing is certain until it's as optimal as they can get it for release. Marketing operates at a different pace, with different objectives, and different goals. Inevitably, they would be waiting indefinitely at times for Devs to give the "OK", and that would be a financial nightmare. Totally diffetent deadlines.
I mean, not agreeing with the price is reasonable, but I don't understand why people are taking the Offer personally. It's not even directed at their demographic. Different Offers are for different demographics. They're most often planned in advance, and aren't even connected to upcoming changes or new content. There's an entire chunk of the Player Base that is not even at Act 6, that is still working on their 4* Rosters. The game can't stop moving forward in other areas when one population doesn't agree with something. It's not some kind of personal insult. It doesn't even have anything to do with Act 6. It's like stubbing your toe and getting mad at the Payless Ad. Lol.
It feels more like Payless amputating your foot and then trying to sell you a shoe.
They were trying to sell it to the people with bare feet.
Granted, I will say that the timing is coincidental, but when you're talking about asking Marketing to verify their plans with Design, that's a whole cross-department mess that's not feasible.
"when you're talking about asking Marketing to verify their plans with Design, that's a whole cross-department mess that's not feasible."
No, it isn't. I have worked in companies that range from small to Fortune 500 size, mostly from the finance side but involved with Marketing at times. Not as difficult as you're making it out to be.
Not the same ballpark. Not at all. There are way too many variables involved with Design. They are most certainly working on something at all times, sometimes months in advance, and nothing is certain until it's as optimal as they can get it for release. Marketing operates at a different pace, with different objectives, and different goals. Inevitably, they would be waiting indefinitely at times for Devs to give the "OK", and that would be a financial nightmare. Totally diffetent deadlines.
I worked for a tech company. I was a data analyst in Marketing and worked very closely with developers as did others in Marketing. Marketing never did anything unless the tech side was ready. If the tech wasn't ready, Marketing slowed down. I think you're in over your head on this one unless you happen to work at Kabam and know the day-to-day operations personally.
Granted, I will say that the timing is coincidental, but when you're talking about asking Marketing to verify their plans with Design, that's a whole cross-department mess that's not feasible.
Really, there's not timelines for acts and changes....like there's no one with project management for design of a video game....I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona dirt cheap for you! Honestly you have no clue what you are talking about you dont work there so stop acting like you know the in and outs. You are creating a dangerous environment speaking on their behalf and you should be reprimanded for doing such.
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I have no problem with 4* not being allowed to be used in the new story content. If you sont have enough 5*, wait til you pull more. Or do Map 6 and get rank up materials for more r4 and r5 5* champs.
If you aren't in a state currently where you can do act 6 without 4* then maybe you aren't ready for act 6. Kabam shouldnt lower the bar, it's about time they raised it.
but 3 years from now....
WE GONA GET 5* MAX RANK UP...when we have 7* and we can no longer use 5* in act 7!
kabam is slowing..killing the game i fell in love with, that i downloaded 4 years ago...
arena bots...
pilots....
people buying cheap odins....
constant network errors...
constant bad deals...
and me having bad luck on 6* pulls and NOW knowing...5* will be restricted in the future just like 4*'s..
this game or "developer" is heading down a spiral down path,
It is just..
Ugh
Currently, MCOC makes up 18% of their revenue. This has steadily increased since the acquisition. In Q2 2017, the game was 13%. The increase could be for a couple reasons: MCOC revenue rising, Netmarble total revenue flat or falling, or a combination of the two.
Looks like it's more a product of Netmarble's total revenue falling. They're also less profitable than they used to be. Ultimately, it's looking more and more like the company needs MCOC to thrive, so expect increased monetization going forward.
https://sgimage.netmarble.com/images/netmarble/nmOfficial/20190213/9t3k1550039675981.pdf
Even if someone could use those resources at the moment, it's a disgusting move just on principle. As players, we realize the game evolves over time and things we've bought or leveled up in the past will eventually become less effective. But to outright ban the use of 4* characters in Act 6 and then turn around and sell 4* rank up materials for $100 is just shameless and out of touch.
I feel like everything I've said in this post is constructive, because it truly does feel like it's something the people coming up with these deals need to hear. Because a lot of people feel insulted by this, and that's something Kabam should be aware of. To not realize how this offer would be received by the majority of the player base is just shocking and kind of embarrassing. It just feels wildly inappropriate, like bursting into laughter at a funeral. Things like this only serve to increase the divide between Kabam and the players, causing frustration and anger. I hope Kabam realizes how wrong and out of touch they were with this offer, and how much they really need to improve in this area.
When you compare this offer to the one I've just mentionned, there is obviously quite a gap... Though, the $15 offer is not that awful for the very beginners.
It's feasible, especially when you have days to prepare. I have worked in companies that range from small to Fortune 500 size, mostly from the finance side but involved with Marketing at times. Not as difficult as you're making it out to be.
pls give info on people buying this so I can also rob them. thanks
$150 to max a 4* is ridiculous no matter what stage you are at in the game.