This is rediculous. U guys are going to lose all your loyal player that have been playing since the game started when alphas and 4*s where very rare. Only the very top players that pay will enjoy this but they'll quickly lose interest as well when the game population significantly drops. Instead of focusing on six star champs please concentrate on the bases that have been "coming soon" since the game released! This is absolutely b.s. and I pray kabam reconsider this horrible decision. I mean do u guys even read your forums?! Everyone is against this. I don't care how many T4C or alphas or even 4*s u give us I've worked my ass off for more than 2yrs to get to where I'm at and for people now to spend a little cash and get to my level in a few months is complete disrespect to your loyal players.
Think the opposite is true bud. Top players are also very disappointed in this announcement and top players will get screwed the most. There is going to be a mass exodus in this game very soon. Just watch.
The thing that's being missed here is that we are attached to these champs.
My roster for example...
I'm attached to my Classic Ultron, i spent a lot of time and money getting him. I don't want to watch him slowly become irrelevant. I want to continue to develope him.
My last few months have been aimed at pushing him ahead of Storm so my profile pic changes. These small details matter to us.
We're proud of these champs, we don't want to stop using them. It's about progression, not about watching it all get leveled and having to rebuild it again.
Kabam has removed all sense of accompishement with this announcement.
The thing that's being missed here is that we are attached to these champs.
My roster for example...
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Totally agree bro. You Nailed it. I've worked a long time to get my roster and finally have it only for kabam to announce they will be obsolete in the near future. Nothing more disappointing and frustrating. I'm pretty much done.
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I'm going to repost what the brother @ThebigBient posted yesterday on this topic...
"First off, I want to say thank you for trying to be more forthcoming with releasing information early that impacts the community/players and the game we all love in a big way. It’s nice to know what you guys have in store for us and is always exciting to get big news!
However, this recent announcement about 6star champions was probably not received you way you had hoped it would be. Now, I can’t speak for all players, but I can speak for my team, and the other top players that have contacted me and we’ re more shocked and angry than excited I would say. Most are not happy at all about this announcement and think it’s time to finally give this game up.
Now you may ask yourself why we aren’t happy about this? Don’t you want more power!? Why wouldn’t you want six star champs!?”
Well, let me give you an example. Let’s say you have been saving for awhile to get that brand new car you have always wanted. You wait for the newest body style to come out so when you make that purchase, your investment doesn’t lose its value and rapidly depreciate. Nobody wants the old body style of their favorite car. You want that new one so it retains its value and you can look cooler longer, right?
So right after signing on that dotted line, for that car you have always wanted, you see a semi roll in to the dealership with a trailer full of an even newer body style of that same model car! Wtf right??? You would expect a decent amount of time before the company would think about changing the body style on that model because you did your research and patiently waited for that “new body” and the salesman even told you, you have nothing to worry about! You would be pretty angry right? Now your new car is instantly old and you haven’t even drove it off the lot yet!
Well, that’s how we feel about the release of 6star champions except nobody even wants this new “body style” yet. NOT ONE player has even maxed out a 5 star champ. The materials haven’t even been released yet! Why would 6star champions even be considered for release? We have barely even got to use our 5stars ! Some of us haven’t even been lucky enough to spin a featured champ!
Is this the solution to maxing out 5star sig levels? Because I am pretty sure this is not what we had in mind, nor would we even consider this as a possible solution. This announcement literally came out of nowhere and we are all a bit shocked and not happy about it all. None of us even understand why this would be considered except purely as a money grab. A money grab that we WILL NOT donate to. There isn’t one person who has all the 5 stars that are available. I am also pretty sure there isn’t one person who wants another iron patriot or Hulkbuster, especially as a 6 star!
It has been SOOO hard to even collect the 5stars that we do have, and now you are telling us that it’s all going to be for nothing come early 2018. I can understand the release of 6stars to be used as content for us to compete against, but for us to use and acquire? No. It’s just way to early for them to be released. Like I said, nobody has even maxed out a 5star!
We understand you want to bring us new content but this is the laziest way to do it. Cool, your adding a star level and regurgitating the same old camps that we already have and now we have to pay for the new set. 5stars were that line when you switched from 4stars. 6stars, crosses that line where we say enough is enough and just demotivates us to even collect anymore and say goodbye. We don’t want to start over AGAIN. We haven’t even got to collect the 5s yet.
The game doesn’t need 6stars right now. It needs new and exciting content for us to play. Base wars? Real time pvp interaction? Tournaments? Skills challenges? Gears? Something! Anything else would be better than telling us that we have to start our collections over and commit to spending more and more money that we just can’t or don’t want to have to spend.
I have already wrote more than I wanted to and more than anyone wants to read but WE hope that you will consider delaying this and come up with another way to make the game more exciting or I’m afraid most will call it quits. It’s not a threat, just how we truly feel. There’s much more to say but I will let others tell you how they feel and I’m sure there are plenty of other posts addressing their discontent on the same topic."
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I wholeheartedly agree with everything he stated above. As anothet top player who also has 6300+ prestige, the addition of 6* champs will diminish the game as it is.
Since 5 stars were introduced to the Contest, we have all been chasing them, playing the prestige game. Our 4 stars became less efficient in end game content, ie; LOL, Act 5.2, etc. Many of us fellow top players have dedicated a lot of time & money investing in our 5* champs. We have tackled & fully completed every aspect of content released in the game, & 100% LOL in order to have access to more R4 5 stars. I have 5 in total, approaching my 6th. That in itself took a lot of time, especially when 5* rank up materials (T2A's, sig stones, awakening gems) are not entirely available in the game.
We have held on to our 5* shards for months on end in order to try & secure a featured champ. Many have had more success over others, but now we have to start from scratch all over again chasing 6* champs??? Acts 5.3 & 5.4 will more than likely be totally insane, as well, without them. Smh
It really never ends with this company. Instead of releasing 6* champs, which no one really wants, including your top end game players, invest into eradicating all of the bugs that are introduced in the game with each & every update? That sounds more of an addition than adding 6* champs. This introduction will more than likely turn away your most loyal top supporters & spenders for sure.
I was initially very excited about the announcement of 6*s but then I realised what ii and other adjustments mean. it means the years me and others have spent on this game were all a waste if youre 'making 4 and 5*s more available along with their rank up materials' was the years of progress all for nothing when now someone can join and get what ive got in less than half the time? Also how much gold are we going to need to rank up 6*s it already costs a hell of a lot for 5*, which I can haven't taken any above r2 due to sheer cost (maybe gold quests could be a constant thing - hint hint no one likes or does the free for all on sunday). I also have concerns about the 6* pool, no one will ever support it unless there is a fair chance of actually getting some decent champions and no ****ty ones or people will rage quit by the hundreds. I also believe 6*s shouldn't be introduced until you have at least finished the 5* pool, some certain champions which have clearly been omitted (wolvie sw etc.) 6*s should not be added until all champions have a 5* version, if you think theyre too strong maybe a new crystal such as an 'elite' crystal containing only top tier champions all of which are desireable for example at a price of 20k shards and put a limit such as level 60 on them.
Finally why on earth have you pushed 6*s as well as the 5*s ahead of other releases such as level cap increase and bases.
It's already clear at this point that summoners of all levels hate this new development. But what can we do to prevent this future addition from trivializing our efforts?
It's already clear at this point that summoners of all levels hate this new development. But what can we do to prevent this future addition from trivializing our efforts?
I'd imagine something close to the revolt when 12.0 came out.
Adding 6* is adding no value to the game. It just stretches the time needed for a new player to get to the difficult content and that player has to collect a lot of 3* to start getting 4*, then collect a lot of 4* to maybe get 5* in arenas, then you introduce 7* and they will all have to start collecting 6* hopefully also in arenas in order to stay on top of the game for the interesting difficult content tailored to the latest tier of champs and maybe one day get Joe Fixit 7*!
What's your plan, Kabam? Gradually get us to recollect (and re-invest into) the same champions several times to the point you one day release 10* champions? Each of us by then will have 8 tiers of Iron Patriot, Kamala Khan and Joe Fixit? Mostly all unduped of course, except maybe 4* and 5*. LOL
I have 75 4* champions,
32 at rank 4,
4 at rank 5
32 out of the 75 are total garbage - all sitting at rank 3 and useless for ANY current content. I only have them for arena points and it's been difficult pulling the newer interesting champs from the crystals because there is so much garbage in them!
I have 12 5* champions,
4 at rank 2,
the rest at rank 1,
2 only duplicated and I only have 8 T2 alpha catalysts, that I'm certainly not using on any of the 12 5* champions, because they are all garbage compared to my top 4* champions.
It takes forever to collect all the T4cc catalysts of the same class to bring a 4* to rank 5! Why would I bring unduped Guillotine or Unstoppable Collosus to rank 3 when I have duped her, Voodoo, Hood or Dormamu in 4*??
GEARS btw are going to be total nonsense, I hope you'll never release them! Who here is interested in investing into gears for their 4* champions already knowing you can have the same champs one day in 5*? Who here wants to invest gears into their 5* knowing 6* are coming out? Who here wants to bother with gears for their line of 100 champions?
You're doing great job KABAM releasing new champions. They tend to be more difficult to play with, more elaborate, more exciting to play with and with great results once mastered. You've been releasing great quests testing our skills and who doesn't have them or wants more rewards, our wallets. Focus on that, bring T5b into the game, alliance bases, more interaction between alliances and their members, true pvp fights in duels for special rewards (I believe the game is too unstable to allow true pvp in arenas) etc. There are so many ways for you to bring new exciting content to the game for us to spend more for it, so you have a steady revenue stream from excited and entertained players. Stretching and thinning the game further and make us re-invest and re-collect our favourite champs will NOT make us excited or spend more in the game. Also, what's the point of releasing 6* anyway? You can bump the difficulty and PI of your current 5* champions to whatever numbers you feel like.
Do you want more revenue? Make the current content more exciting. Make us players more interested in spending money. I bet loads of players would want to invest into 5* red deadpool arena for example! I've never spent a dollar on an online game, but I'd spend a considerable amount on this champion. In fact, why don't you make your newest champions more available to us for a fee? Make them available to us earlier in arenas for a real-currency fee. I bet those of us who want the champion ahead of many others, will want to spend few dollars for it knowing they have real shot on getting the champion, not like in the BS with featured champion crystals.
Challenger rating is amazing! Why you should be entiled to complete content with 2 or 3 stars?
Alliance quest should be hard. Still 4 stars rock there but that wont be the case soon and i am very happy about that.
It takes skill to clear content with 2* and 3*. Something I thought you would want considering you want the best champs in the game nerfed. You say only certain champs can clear content but some of us only have 2* or 3* versions of those champs. It took great skill for those who beat ROL with 2* and 3* Guillotine and Star Lord.
LOL is still beyond it's time, maybe if people had rank 5 5* it wouldn't be so bad for them, now with 6* coming even i'll be able to beat LOL once I get a 6* to rank 2, eventually.
As for the AQ you must share your experience and tips of how your alliance completes Map 6 5/5 each and every AQ.
Challenger rating is amazing! Why you should be entiled to complete content with 2 or 3 stars?
Alliance quest should be hard. Still 4 stars rock there but that wont be the case soon and i am very happy about that.
It takes skill to clear content with 2* and 3*. Something I thought you would want considering you want the best champs in the game nerfed. You say only certain champs can clear content but some of us only have 2* or 3* versions of those champs. It took great skill for those who beat ROL with 2* and 3* Guillotine and Star Lord.
LOL is still beyond it's time, maybe if people had rank 5 5* it wouldn't be so bad for them, now with 6* coming even i'll be able to beat LOL once I get a 6* to rank 2, eventually.
As for the AQ you must share your experience and tips of how your alliance completes Map 6 5/5 each and every AQ.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Also LOL will need rank 3 6 stars which you wont get for a while. I can guarantee you that a max 5 star will be superior to a rank 2 6 star. Just wait and see August 30.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
Also LOL will need rank 3 6 stars which you wont get for a while. I can guarantee you that a max 5 star will be superior to a rank 2 6 star. Just wait and see August 30.
You missed the part where 6* can recover lost health back after they get hit.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
Where do you find the time to scour the forums, giving your "opinion" and making your "master list" as well as play the game?
You say you're respectful but when someone has an opinion or idea you say "keep dreaming", how is that respectful? Also saying stuff like "I don't care what you say" isn't respectful either. I have nothing more to say to you. I'm not the first to question your methods or what you say and I won't be the last.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
When you say you have a real life to take care of, it suggests that you think that those who do map 6 don't. That's not very respectful.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
When you say you have a real life to take care of, it suggests that you think that those who do map 6 don't. That's not very respectful.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
Where do you find the time to scour the forums, giving your "opinion" and making your "master list" as well as play the game?
You say you're respectful but when someone has an opinion or idea you say "keep dreaming", how is that respectful? Also saying stuff like "I don't care what you say" isn't respectful either. I have nothing more to say to you. I'm not the first to question your methods or what you say and I won't be the last.
I have never said to anyone I dont care, sorry mate! Good try!
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
You have been on this thread for hours. Way more time then I would spend on map 6 LOL
Adding 6* is adding no value to the game. It just stretches the time needed for a new player to get to the difficult content and that player has to collect a lot of 3* to start getting 4*, then collect a lot of 4* to maybe get 5* in arenas, then you introduce 7* and they will all have to start collecting 6* hopefully also in arenas in order to stay on top of the game for the interesting difficult content tailored to the latest tier of champs and maybe one day get Joe Fixit 7*!
What's your plan, Kabam? Gradually get us to recollect (and re-invest into) the same champions several times to the point you one day release 10* champions? Each of us by then will have 8 tiers of Iron Patriot, Kamala Khan and Joe Fixit? Mostly all unduped of course, except maybe 4* and 5*. LOL
I have 75 4* champions,
32 at rank 4,
4 at rank 5
32 out of the 75 are total garbage - all sitting at rank 3 and useless for ANY current content. I only have them for arena points and it's been difficult pulling the newer interesting champs from the crystals because there is so much garbage in them!
I have 12 5* champions,
4 at rank 2,
the rest at rank 1,
2 only duplicated and I only have 8 T2 alpha catalysts, that I'm certainly not using on any of the 12 5* champions, because they are all garbage compared to my top 4* champions.
It takes forever to collect all the T4cc catalysts of the same class to bring a 4* to rank 5! Why would I bring unduped Guillotine or Unstoppable Collosus to rank 3 when I have duped her, Voodoo, Hood or Dormamu in 4*??
GEARS btw are going to be total nonsense, I hope you'll never release them! Who here is interested in investing into gears for their 4* champions already knowing you can have the same champs one day in 5*? Who here wants to invest gears into their 5* knowing 6* are coming out? Who here wants to bother with gears for their line of 100 champions?
You're doing great job KABAM releasing new champions. They tend to be more difficult to play with, more elaborate, more exciting to play with and with great results once mastered. You've been releasing great quests testing our skills and who doesn't have them or wants more rewards, our wallets. Focus on that, bring T5b into the game, alliance bases, more interaction between alliances and their members, true pvp fights in duels for special rewards (I believe the game is too unstable to allow true pvp in arenas) etc. There are so many ways for you to bring new exciting content to the game for us to spend more for it, so you have a steady revenue stream from excited and entertained players. Stretching and thinning the game further and make us re-invest and re-collect our favourite champs will NOT make us excited or spend more in the game. Also, what's the point of releasing 6* anyway? You can bump the difficulty and PI of your current 5* champions to whatever numbers you feel like.
Do you want more revenue? Make the current content more exciting. Make us players more interested in spending money. I bet loads of players would want to invest into 5* red deadpool arena for example! I've never spent a dollar on an online game, but I'd spend a considerable amount on this champion. In fact, why don't you make your newest champions more available to us for a fee? Make them available to us earlier in arenas for a real-currency fee. I bet those of us who want the champion ahead of many others, will want to spend few dollars for it knowing they have real shot on getting the champion, not like in the BS with featured champion crystals.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
When you say you have a real life to take care of, it suggests that you think that those who do map 6 don't. That's not very respectful.
You are putting words in my mouth i have never said, if i have two jobs and i dont have enough time to play an online game that is my personal decision. You are free to play 24/7. I have 2 jobs and a family to take care of !
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
You have been on this thread for hours. Way more time then I would spend on map 6 LOL
Well i have some time off and it is my duty to represent the people happy with this change. It is my duty to expose the falacies and the attacks agaisnt this great company of Kabam.
Ranting unneceserally without knowing the changes is just........
I don't want to sell any of my current champs, but what benefit is there to having all the resources in my 2-3* champs, and no reason to ever use them... I like the idea of collecting them all. But I will never use 75% of them.
I think Kabam should add Rank down options for 2-3*s... allow you to use the resources from those champs to improve 4-6*s... resources being, ISO; basic, class & alpha catalysts; gold; and signature stones... this process could be used four 4*s when you introduce 7*s...
If you are going to advance things in the game, at least allow us to repurpose the resources we have built up in the game. Similar to what is done with masteries, if I wasn't to grind for a 3* champ let me add resources to those champs. When it is over, let me transfer the resources to my 4-5* champs to be used in Act.
Since the 1-3*s are no longer needed, have the option for the PHC and 3* shards that we continue to receive, to be converted into 4, 5 or 6* shards.
Change the expiration time on class ISO to 60 -90 days, basic is always easy to use but you may not always have a champ for the specific class ISO to rank up... yes you can use it on another champ, but it just seems like a waste... especially since what champs you get is random...
I understand the idea of keeping the carrot out in front of us with the 6* champs as incentive to keep everyone moving forward. But I think the next obtainable incentive should be maxing out 5*... then say in 2019 release 6*s... at least give everyone a chance to take advantage of the full capacity of the 5*, before moving on.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
You have been on this thread for hours. Way more time then I would spend on map 6 LOL
Well i have some time off and it is my duty to represent the people happy with this change. It is my duty to expose the falacies and the attacks agaisnt this great company of Kabam.
Ranting unneceserally without knowing the changes is just........
I may be wrong about the "I don't care what you say" quote.
Fallacy - Noun
Fallacies - Plural Noun. A mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
You have been on this thread for hours. Way more time then I would spend on map 6 LOL
Well i have some time off and it is my duty to represent the people happy with this change. It is my duty to expose the falacies and the attacks agaisnt this great company of Kabam.
Ranting unneceserally without knowing the changes is just........
I may be wrong about the "I don't care what you say" quote.
Fallacy - Noun
Fallacies - Plural Noun. A mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.
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Same argument post 12.0 and game became better.
Same argument post willpower and game became better.
Enough said. Just lets see what kabam has for us on August 30th and how 6 stars will work out. The ranting is just unjustified.
They built in forced obsolescence into 12.0+ with challenger rating. You think a nerfed roster on every star increase makes the game better?
Think the opposite is true bud. Top players are also very disappointed in this announcement and top players will get screwed the most. There is going to be a mass exodus in this game very soon. Just watch.
"First off, I want to say thank you for trying to be more forthcoming with releasing information early that impacts the community/players and the game we all love in a big way. It’s nice to know what you guys have in store for us and is always exciting to get big news!
However, this recent announcement about 6star champions was probably not received you way you had hoped it would be. Now, I can’t speak for all players, but I can speak for my team, and the other top players that have contacted me and we’ re more shocked and angry than excited I would say. Most are not happy at all about this announcement and think it’s time to finally give this game up.
Now you may ask yourself why we aren’t happy about this? Don’t you want more power!? Why wouldn’t you want six star champs!?”
Well, let me give you an example. Let’s say you have been saving for awhile to get that brand new car you have always wanted. You wait for the newest body style to come out so when you make that purchase, your investment doesn’t lose its value and rapidly depreciate. Nobody wants the old body style of their favorite car. You want that new one so it retains its value and you can look cooler longer, right?
So right after signing on that dotted line, for that car you have always wanted, you see a semi roll in to the dealership with a trailer full of an even newer body style of that same model car! Wtf right??? You would expect a decent amount of time before the company would think about changing the body style on that model because you did your research and patiently waited for that “new body” and the salesman even told you, you have nothing to worry about! You would be pretty angry right? Now your new car is instantly old and you haven’t even drove it off the lot yet!
Well, that’s how we feel about the release of 6star champions except nobody even wants this new “body style” yet. NOT ONE player has even maxed out a 5 star champ. The materials haven’t even been released yet! Why would 6star champions even be considered for release? We have barely even got to use our 5stars ! Some of us haven’t even been lucky enough to spin a featured champ!
Is this the solution to maxing out 5star sig levels? Because I am pretty sure this is not what we had in mind, nor would we even consider this as a possible solution. This announcement literally came out of nowhere and we are all a bit shocked and not happy about it all. None of us even understand why this would be considered except purely as a money grab. A money grab that we WILL NOT donate to. There isn’t one person who has all the 5 stars that are available. I am also pretty sure there isn’t one person who wants another iron patriot or Hulkbuster, especially as a 6 star!
It has been SOOO hard to even collect the 5stars that we do have, and now you are telling us that it’s all going to be for nothing come early 2018. I can understand the release of 6stars to be used as content for us to compete against, but for us to use and acquire? No. It’s just way to early for them to be released. Like I said, nobody has even maxed out a 5star!
We understand you want to bring us new content but this is the laziest way to do it. Cool, your adding a star level and regurgitating the same old camps that we already have and now we have to pay for the new set. 5stars were that line when you switched from 4stars. 6stars, crosses that line where we say enough is enough and just demotivates us to even collect anymore and say goodbye. We don’t want to start over AGAIN. We haven’t even got to collect the 5s yet.
The game doesn’t need 6stars right now. It needs new and exciting content for us to play. Base wars? Real time pvp interaction? Tournaments? Skills challenges? Gears? Something! Anything else would be better than telling us that we have to start our collections over and commit to spending more and more money that we just can’t or don’t want to have to spend.
I have already wrote more than I wanted to and more than anyone wants to read but WE hope that you will consider delaying this and come up with another way to make the game more exciting or I’m afraid most will call it quits. It’s not a threat, just how we truly feel. There’s much more to say but I will let others tell you how they feel and I’m sure there are plenty of other posts addressing their discontent on the same topic."
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I wholeheartedly agree with everything he stated above. As anothet top player who also has 6300+ prestige, the addition of 6* champs will diminish the game as it is.
Since 5 stars were introduced to the Contest, we have all been chasing them, playing the prestige game. Our 4 stars became less efficient in end game content, ie; LOL, Act 5.2, etc. Many of us fellow top players have dedicated a lot of time & money investing in our 5* champs. We have tackled & fully completed every aspect of content released in the game, & 100% LOL in order to have access to more R4 5 stars. I have 5 in total, approaching my 6th. That in itself took a lot of time, especially when 5* rank up materials (T2A's, sig stones, awakening gems) are not entirely available in the game.
We have held on to our 5* shards for months on end in order to try & secure a featured champ. Many have had more success over others, but now we have to start from scratch all over again chasing 6* champs??? Acts 5.3 & 5.4 will more than likely be totally insane, as well, without them. Smh
It really never ends with this company. Instead of releasing 6* champs, which no one really wants, including your top end game players, invest into eradicating all of the bugs that are introduced in the game with each & every update? That sounds more of an addition than adding 6* champs. This introduction will more than likely turn away your most loyal top supporters & spenders for sure.
Finally why on earth have you pushed 6*s as well as the 5*s ahead of other releases such as level cap increase and bases.
I'd imagine something close to the revolt when 12.0 came out.
What's your plan, Kabam? Gradually get us to recollect (and re-invest into) the same champions several times to the point you one day release 10* champions? Each of us by then will have 8 tiers of Iron Patriot, Kamala Khan and Joe Fixit? Mostly all unduped of course, except maybe 4* and 5*. LOL
I have 75 4* champions,
32 at rank 4,
4 at rank 5
32 out of the 75 are total garbage - all sitting at rank 3 and useless for ANY current content. I only have them for arena points and it's been difficult pulling the newer interesting champs from the crystals because there is so much garbage in them!
I have 12 5* champions,
4 at rank 2,
the rest at rank 1,
2 only duplicated and I only have 8 T2 alpha catalysts, that I'm certainly not using on any of the 12 5* champions, because they are all garbage compared to my top 4* champions.
It takes forever to collect all the T4cc catalysts of the same class to bring a 4* to rank 5! Why would I bring unduped Guillotine or Unstoppable Collosus to rank 3 when I have duped her, Voodoo, Hood or Dormamu in 4*??
GEARS btw are going to be total nonsense, I hope you'll never release them! Who here is interested in investing into gears for their 4* champions already knowing you can have the same champs one day in 5*? Who here wants to invest gears into their 5* knowing 6* are coming out? Who here wants to bother with gears for their line of 100 champions?
You're doing great job KABAM releasing new champions. They tend to be more difficult to play with, more elaborate, more exciting to play with and with great results once mastered. You've been releasing great quests testing our skills and who doesn't have them or wants more rewards, our wallets. Focus on that, bring T5b into the game, alliance bases, more interaction between alliances and their members, true pvp fights in duels for special rewards (I believe the game is too unstable to allow true pvp in arenas) etc. There are so many ways for you to bring new exciting content to the game for us to spend more for it, so you have a steady revenue stream from excited and entertained players. Stretching and thinning the game further and make us re-invest and re-collect our favourite champs will NOT make us excited or spend more in the game. Also, what's the point of releasing 6* anyway? You can bump the difficulty and PI of your current 5* champions to whatever numbers you feel like.
Do you want more revenue? Make the current content more exciting. Make us players more interested in spending money. I bet loads of players would want to invest into 5* red deadpool arena for example! I've never spent a dollar on an online game, but I'd spend a considerable amount on this champion. In fact, why don't you make your newest champions more available to us for a fee? Make them available to us earlier in arenas for a real-currency fee. I bet those of us who want the champion ahead of many others, will want to spend few dollars for it knowing they have real shot on getting the champion, not like in the BS with featured champion crystals.
Alliance quest should be hard. Still 4 stars rock there but that wont be the case soon and i am very happy about that.
It takes skill to clear content with 2* and 3*. Something I thought you would want considering you want the best champs in the game nerfed. You say only certain champs can clear content but some of us only have 2* or 3* versions of those champs. It took great skill for those who beat ROL with 2* and 3* Guillotine and Star Lord.
LOL is still beyond it's time, maybe if people had rank 5 5* it wouldn't be so bad for them, now with 6* coming even i'll be able to beat LOL once I get a 6* to rank 2, eventually.
As for the AQ you must share your experience and tips of how your alliance completes Map 6 5/5 each and every AQ.
I have never played map 6 and never will. I have 46 T4cc and some crystals stashed. It is your choice to play map 6. My alliance scores 118 million with map5 only.
Have fun in map6.
this is just a game not a full time job for me!
But you say the AQ is too easy, is that not why they came up with map 6? To give you a challenge? Wouldn't 6* in maps 4 and 5 essentially make it as hard as Map 6 is now?
You missed the part where 6* can recover lost health back after they get hit.
No i dont need map6, i have a real life to take care of. It is not about being easy or not. Map6 is done with 4 stars too.
As far as LOL, it is irrelevant 6 stars recover health because there is something called enrage timer that works based on base attack.
Where do you find the time to scour the forums, giving your "opinion" and making your "master list" as well as play the game?
You say you're respectful but when someone has an opinion or idea you say "keep dreaming", how is that respectful? Also saying stuff like "I don't care what you say" isn't respectful either. I have nothing more to say to you. I'm not the first to question your methods or what you say and I won't be the last.
When you say you have a real life to take care of, it suggests that you think that those who do map 6 don't. That's not very respectful.
Good catch, I didn't see that one.
I have never said to anyone I dont care, sorry mate! Good try!
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But they won't acknowledge this though.
You are putting words in my mouth i have never said, if i have two jobs and i dont have enough time to play an online game that is my personal decision. You are free to play 24/7. I have 2 jobs and a family to take care of !
Well i have some time off and it is my duty to represent the people happy with this change. It is my duty to expose the falacies and the attacks agaisnt this great company of Kabam.
Ranting unneceserally without knowing the changes is just........
I think Kabam should add Rank down options for 2-3*s... allow you to use the resources from those champs to improve 4-6*s... resources being, ISO; basic, class & alpha catalysts; gold; and signature stones... this process could be used four 4*s when you introduce 7*s...
If you are going to advance things in the game, at least allow us to repurpose the resources we have built up in the game. Similar to what is done with masteries, if I wasn't to grind for a 3* champ let me add resources to those champs. When it is over, let me transfer the resources to my 4-5* champs to be used in Act.
Since the 1-3*s are no longer needed, have the option for the PHC and 3* shards that we continue to receive, to be converted into 4, 5 or 6* shards.
Change the expiration time on class ISO to 60 -90 days, basic is always easy to use but you may not always have a champ for the specific class ISO to rank up... yes you can use it on another champ, but it just seems like a waste... especially since what champs you get is random...
I understand the idea of keeping the carrot out in front of us with the 6* champs as incentive to keep everyone moving forward. But I think the next obtainable incentive should be maxing out 5*... then say in 2019 release 6*s... at least give everyone a chance to take advantage of the full capacity of the 5*, before moving on.
I may be wrong about the "I don't care what you say" quote.
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If anything, the lesser star champs you use to pass content, the more entitled you are to pass it because you need more skills to do it.
You make zero sense.
Exactly right, you are arguing that LOL is going to be a piece of cake with rank 2 6 stars when you have no idea how 6 stars will be.