@Kabam Miike I challenge you to a gentlemans duel. What's your in game name? I'll duel your top champ with mine... and you do the same, my game name is the same as my forum name... we take screenshots or video and post them here. I'm curious to see your top 4 as well to see how thoroughly you personally tested any of these maps. Come on man.... it will be fun... you know you want the competition.
Nah, I'm good. I'm also obviously not the only one testing everything here. There are people much more skilled than I am who rival some of our top Players in game.
@Kabam Miike I challenge you to a gentlemans duel. What's your in game name? I'll duel your top champ with mine... and you do the same, my game name is the same as my forum name... we take screenshots or video and post them here. I'm curious to see your top 4 as well to see how thoroughly you personally tested any of these maps. Come on man.... it will be fun... you know you want the competition.
Nah, I'm good. I'm also obviously not the only one testing everything here. There are people much more skilled than I am who rival some of our top Players in game.
Are there people testing for all skill levels and testing all tier levels or is it just the most skilled testing the game?
@Kabam Miike I challenge you to a gentlemans duel. What's your in game name? I'll duel your top champ with mine... and you do the same, my game name is the same as my forum name... we take screenshots or video and post them here. I'm curious to see your top 4 as well to see how thoroughly you personally tested any of these maps. Come on man.... it will be fun... you know you want the competition.
Nah, I'm good. I'm also obviously not the only one testing everything here. There are people much more skilled than I am who rival some of our top Players in game.
Are there people testing for all skill levels and testing all tier levels or is it just the most skilled testing the game?
Of course it's not just the most skilled! We have people of all different Skill levels and progression testing all of the content.
@Kabam Miike I challenge you to a gentlemans duel. What's your in game name? I'll duel your top champ with mine... and you do the same, my game name is the same as my forum name... we take screenshots or video and post them here. I'm curious to see your top 4 as well to see how thoroughly you personally tested any of these maps. Come on man.... it will be fun... you know you want the competition.
Nah, I'm good. I'm also obviously not the only one testing everything here. There are people much more skilled than I am who rival some of our top Players in game.
Are there people testing for all skill levels and testing all tier levels or is it just the most skilled testing the game?
Of course it's not just the most skilled! We have people of all different Skill levels and progression testing all of the content.
All these links to have everyone meet in a bottleneck first section have taken away much of the freedom we used to have with explo.
If you make the left, mid and right sides able to move to section 2 individualy, no links to each other, we can make do with the pointless energy eater spots. Have each section still have a portal at the end which leads everywhere - that is the only positive improment to the new map imo.
The increase in difficulty, with all the ridiculous node combinations and restricted counter possibilities... well, I won't repeat the points the many frustrated players have raised but they're sound. There was one person who said something like G1 and map 5 was their happy place. Right on! It was the right amount of competitive, and even though the timers still made it long, it was good stress free moments with your alli friends. I hope something can be done to salvage that, fellas.
@Kabam Miike so only a few days out from Season 10 launch. Do you have an update about whether:
1. the current war map/new nodes is going to be retained, adjusted or reverted back to the previous one, and 2. Any update on rewards given the unintended increase in difficulty that the vast majority of the community has reported?
The game is less fun for at least half the players base. The difficulty goes up, the rewards trickle down. This new AQ doesnt justify the small rewards. This new war is something that will drive players away. I have already told my alliance, I will not spend anything on war. If I get kicked I'll go without an alliance. I for one am getting tired of the difficulty going up, for the same crappy rewards. Not to mention the the endless cycle of bugs and lag. Kabam has got their last dollar from me.
Very little chance the buff in rewards is large enough to split in 2
Feasibly, they could buff the individual war rewards this time, and then the Season rewards next time. It's meeting the players in the middle, and makes the most sense in my mind. New Map which is taking some getting used too war to war, give us something more, war to war. Defense Tactics will be something that shifts things as a whole for AW throughout the Season, buff the Season rewards. It's a nice compromise if you ask me. I've heard others say the same so clearly I'm not alone in this mentality.
Whatever comes from this discussion, I’m an officer of a season 9 platinum 3 alliance. Our alliance has officially decided to take Alliance War far less seriously, and we now discourage our members from using their best champions there. Instead, we are gearing ourselves towards AQ Map 6.
To be clear, we decided to implement these changes as an Alliance, unanimously, because of the increase in Alliance War difficulty and thus item costs, while simultaneously being told by devs that there will not yet be any increase in rewards.
TLDR; alliance wars cost more than they're worth now more than ever, so as a team we’re putting it on the back burner.
Between the new nodes leading to more spending and the stupid way the linked nodes are presented, you pretty much have to wait forever and then you have the times when you're forced to fight noded.
All these changes have really sucked the fun out of the game for me. I cant help but feel others feel the same way.
Took the far right path for the first time and I can confirm that node 13 is complete ****. How is that the second fight on a path?
Solo a r4 5* rhino on that node today, tier 4 pretty easy, lost maybe 10% health.
For some, Aegis is easy. For others... not so much. If any changes occur, they may dial it back, but I don't think it's going to be removed. Truth is, learning how to beat it will undoubtedly help your progression in game. Perhaps a necessary evil.
It's not that it's easy or hard, it's that you're at the mercy of the AI. I'm not going to get into some contest of git-gud egos about who cleared it best. It's a stupid node.
I really like the node, I think it’s better than say a bleed/poison node where not only do you have to the immunity but also a counter to the specific champ on the node. In theory every champ in the game can counter aegis.
So a little background on Season 11 Rewards Update:
We discussed the Reward Changes quite a bit, and the decision was made to hold back the Rewards update until Season 11, because we want that update to coincide with the addition of Defence Tactics.
While the Maps are new, and getting used to something new is never without Challenge, there isn't really an intended bump to difficulty with this Map update. There are more "mini-bosses", but not all of them have strong Buffs on them (nodes 15, 18, 20, 37, 41, 43, 44, 46, 47 don't have the big boosts found on other mini-boss nodes), and you will no longer be on your own to take them down.
Defence Tactics is the biggest update we've made to Alliance Wars since Seasons were introduced, and while we wanted to have them live for Season 10, the feedback we received that it was soon, and we needed to get these Maps out to everybody first.
This isnt true, these wars are alot harder. There are more nodes and boss fights. Our alliance has already tried this new map and nodes, I think AW is going to be a secondary event. I am not wasting items on all these unavoidable damage nodes. I sure wont spend money to get the same rewards we got when it was easy.
The worst thing is the fact every section has multiple links coming off to the boss nodes and the moment we're waiting on a single person, everyone in that BG is waiting. Old map at least allowed more active and better players to take harder longer paths allowing alliances with diverse members to still move up in AW.
@Kabam Miike whatever the decision concerning the new nodes and their difficulty, can it be possible to take off all the links going to the two central mid-boss ? Those links force us to wait for all members of the alliance to finish their lines. They are suppressing all the possibilities we had with the previous map where some of the line could be done without waiting for the other members of the alliance.
Being in alliance with members around the world (europe, america, oceania) that make the map really hard to finish, not because of lack of skill but simply because of different time zone. We had no such problem with the old map
@Kabam Miike I challenge you to a gentlemans duel. What's your in game name? I'll duel your top champ with mine... and you do the same, my game name is the same as my forum name... we take screenshots or video and post them here. I'm curious to see your top 4 as well to see how thoroughly you personally tested any of these maps. Come on man.... it will be fun... you know you want the competition.
The in game name that appears frequently in the Unofficial Kabam Mike Youtube videos is Agent b.b.r. Rating: 490,362 Top Champs: 5/65 Ghost Rider, 5/65 Corvus, 5/65 Ice Man and 5/65 Star-Lord Alliance: Last Assassin's Wrath - Platinum 3
I am the 3 year leader of an alliance. My main concern is how the nodes are linked. If you do not have 9 people who join a BG within the first few hours of attack you will have people waiting for links to come down.
This is a real issue. We had 8 people join a BG, take out their links, and wait for hours for one of the other 2 international members to wake up. At that point most people waiting were already going to sleep.
If they removed 1 link per section, it would be like the old map. 6-7 players could get things moving. It wouldn't effect too much in the grand scheme either. Just allow flexibility.
I am in a lower tiered alliance for war and do not have outrageous difficult nodes to deal with but have a lack of nodes. Most spots on map are 10% attack and health boost. The few good nodes that are there are mini boss like locations(8) and surrounding the boss.(16 nodes that are not health and attack) Over half our alliance war roster is absolute **** now with only a few champs having their abilities boosted. 3 higher lvl members can cover that but what do I do with the other 7 members that dont have as good of champs? It is easy to say that you just need to rank up champs but we all cant spend hours a day or spend insane amounts of money to do something that has no bearing in the real world. The old maps were more fun to play around different nodes.
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Good to know. Thanks!
If you make the left, mid and right sides able to move to section 2 individualy, no links to each other, we can make do with the pointless energy eater spots. Have each section still have a portal at the end which leads everywhere - that is the only positive improment to the new map imo.
The increase in difficulty, with all the ridiculous node combinations and restricted counter possibilities... well, I won't repeat the points the many frustrated players have raised but they're sound. There was one person who said something like G1 and map 5 was their happy place. Right on! It was the right amount of competitive, and even though the timers still made it long, it was good stress free moments with your alli friends. I hope something can be done to salvage that, fellas.
Thanks
1. the current war map/new nodes is going to be retained, adjusted or reverted back to the previous one, and
2. Any update on rewards given the unintended increase in difficulty that the vast majority of the community has reported?
Thanks
To be clear, we decided to implement these changes as an Alliance, unanimously, because of the increase in Alliance War difficulty and thus item costs, while simultaneously being told by devs that there will not yet be any increase in rewards.
TLDR; alliance wars cost more than they're worth now more than ever, so as a team we’re putting it on the back burner.
Sincerely, a 4+ year summoner with mad skillz.
All these changes have really sucked the fun out of the game for me. I cant help but feel others feel the same way.
whatever the decision concerning the new nodes and their difficulty, can it be possible to take off all the links going to the two central mid-boss ?
Those links force us to wait for all members of the alliance to finish their lines.
They are suppressing all the possibilities we had with the previous map where some of the line could be done without waiting for the other members of the alliance.
Being in alliance with members around the world (europe, america, oceania) that make the map really hard to finish, not because of lack of skill but simply because of different time zone. We had no such problem with the old map
Rating: 490,362
Top Champs: 5/65 Ghost Rider, 5/65 Corvus, 5/65 Ice Man and 5/65 Star-Lord
Alliance: Last Assassin's Wrath - Platinum 3
This is a real issue. We had 8 people join a BG, take out their links, and wait for hours for one of the other 2 international members to wake up. At that point most people waiting were already going to sleep.