Abyss Completion - No Aegon (Loot and thoughts)
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I got my initial clear of Abyss done on Friday night (2am, don’t judge me!), having been doing it on and off from about lunch time and below is the loot and my rank up options!
The T5CC was a bit of a kick in the teeth because despite having 27 6* (after the opening) this is my entire Cosmic roster:
The awakening gem, however was the main reason that I went for completion without Aegon because I now have this puppy on my roster and will shift my focus to exploration of Abyss rather than Act 6 for another AG gamble.
My thoughts on AoL with no Aegon: it’s worth it if you have a specific goal in mind and are willing to roll the dice.
I went into AOL knowing that I would be very happy with 2 awakening gems: Tech (Ghost) and Skill (Aegon); and 3 T5CC - Mutant (Sabretooth[sig20]), Mystic (Symbiote), Tech (Ghost), I also wouldn’t be too upset with skill as I would have an R3 Aegon banked for when I got him awakened.
My best scenario would have been 2x skill, while my 2nd would have been a skill gem and an immediately usable T5CC. I got scenario 3 - skill gem and an unusable T5CC. Basically I’d worked out that I had far greater chances of coming out with something that I could use immediately than not, so for me it was worth the expensive gamble, especially as if I did fluke a skill gem it unlocks exploration for me.
Including 2 mastery switches and a fairly sizeable stash (150 4hr crystals, 11 40% revives, 20 20% revives, 75 lv3 potions, 10 lv4 potions, 8 lv5 potions) this completion cost me 5500 units all in. Now, for a similar price you could probably brute force exploration of 2 chapters of Act 6, depending on which you chose.
If you could get 6.4 and 3 explored for that price you come away the following:
- 50% T5CC (shard)
- 5 x T5B
- 12 x T2A
- 3 x R4 gem
- 18k 6* Shard
- 45k 5* Shard
- 4m Gold
Vs
- 1 x 6* AG
- 1 x T5CC (formed)
- 4 x T5B
- 8 x T2A
- 20k 6* Shard
- 1 x 5* crystal
- 20 6* sig stones
- 1.5m gold
Providing that you have at least 1 6* that you would be willing to rank up, I would argue that AOL is a far better use of units and time (1-2 evenings vs probably 2 weeks of hard evening grinding). You get more 6* shards, a 6* AG which could transform your unawakened Aegon/OR/Void etc. into a real powerhouse, a T5CC which could allow an already awakened god or unawakened god to go to R3. To those who say this is just playing the odds, well these are better odds and more guaranteed rewards that the 25% crystals - I have 50% tech T5CC, but I can’t use it on Ghost and I’ve got to roll 2 more 1/6 between 6.2,3,4 to be able to rank her up.
Even if you get a class of reward that you cannot immediately use like I did, it’s in the bank for when your luck changes, which is certainly better than being 3/4 towards a rank up.
I will put up a ‘strategy’ guide for Aegonless completion later for those who are interested.
The T5CC was a bit of a kick in the teeth because despite having 27 6* (after the opening) this is my entire Cosmic roster:
The awakening gem, however was the main reason that I went for completion without Aegon because I now have this puppy on my roster and will shift my focus to exploration of Abyss rather than Act 6 for another AG gamble.
My thoughts on AoL with no Aegon: it’s worth it if you have a specific goal in mind and are willing to roll the dice.
I went into AOL knowing that I would be very happy with 2 awakening gems: Tech (Ghost) and Skill (Aegon); and 3 T5CC - Mutant (Sabretooth[sig20]), Mystic (Symbiote), Tech (Ghost), I also wouldn’t be too upset with skill as I would have an R3 Aegon banked for when I got him awakened.
My best scenario would have been 2x skill, while my 2nd would have been a skill gem and an immediately usable T5CC. I got scenario 3 - skill gem and an unusable T5CC. Basically I’d worked out that I had far greater chances of coming out with something that I could use immediately than not, so for me it was worth the expensive gamble, especially as if I did fluke a skill gem it unlocks exploration for me.
Including 2 mastery switches and a fairly sizeable stash (150 4hr crystals, 11 40% revives, 20 20% revives, 75 lv3 potions, 10 lv4 potions, 8 lv5 potions) this completion cost me 5500 units all in. Now, for a similar price you could probably brute force exploration of 2 chapters of Act 6, depending on which you chose.
If you could get 6.4 and 3 explored for that price you come away the following:
- 50% T5CC (shard)
- 5 x T5B
- 12 x T2A
- 3 x R4 gem
- 18k 6* Shard
- 45k 5* Shard
- 4m Gold
Vs
- 1 x 6* AG
- 1 x T5CC (formed)
- 4 x T5B
- 8 x T2A
- 20k 6* Shard
- 1 x 5* crystal
- 20 6* sig stones
- 1.5m gold
Providing that you have at least 1 6* that you would be willing to rank up, I would argue that AOL is a far better use of units and time (1-2 evenings vs probably 2 weeks of hard evening grinding). You get more 6* shards, a 6* AG which could transform your unawakened Aegon/OR/Void etc. into a real powerhouse, a T5CC which could allow an already awakened god or unawakened god to go to R3. To those who say this is just playing the odds, well these are better odds and more guaranteed rewards that the 25% crystals - I have 50% tech T5CC, but I can’t use it on Ghost and I’ve got to roll 2 more 1/6 between 6.2,3,4 to be able to rank her up.
Even if you get a class of reward that you cannot immediately use like I did, it’s in the bank for when your luck changes, which is certainly better than being 3/4 towards a rank up.
I will put up a ‘strategy’ guide for Aegonless completion later for those who are interested.
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Sorry - I thought I put it in! This was my team - CG for The Collector and thanks. Arena here we come!
way to go dude!
I have fury, doom, corvus and a void to use in place of torch but been looking for my Aegon replacement, before I start saving for abyss.
The main reason I took him was for the armour break which neutered Tech champions’ power gain.
But exploration of 6.3 and 6.4 with 5500 units isn’t possible tbh
Once you do you’ll know. Though soon they reducing attacks values but still 5500 units for exploration isn’t enough
so in contrast to Act 6, no one can really be made at what it takes for an Abyss run. but just hearing how exploring "story content" is on par with the 5500 units and i see why Kabam is changing things and well good they should!
This is pretty much the same line of thought i'm having too.
I have already 100% 6.1 and 6.3 and 6.2 is at 80% and 6.4% is at like 24%. Now my issue is not having suitable/optimal counters to particular fights which means i would have to use units to get through it.
For similar cost i could get an initial run of Abyss done while i slowly work through the paths i can do in act 6 and wait for counters. The cost for abyss run won't go down anytime soon i.e. we won't see a champion that will make Abyss the same as Aegon did for LoL. Also i have Aegon, NF, HT and doom now ( recent pull) so i have everything i need to make a run. Just got to save units and grind Arena ( #pukeface
Could use a science, cosmic or mutant T5cc so it’s worth the gamble for me.
I agree what you said, act 6 can be a less rewarding thing for the amount you spent. I think in my case since my 6 stars aren’t amazing so I’m just slowly grinding through act 6. I haven’t spent a unit on it since 6.2 100% champion. I just wait till I have 15-20 revives and just tackle as much as I can until I’m down to 1-2 revives then save again. I just have 45% of 6.3 left and about 65% of 6.4 left.
Good luck on 100% abyss or 100% act 6!
No torch though, would you suggest void instead?
Also last spot who would throw in?
Corvus?
Plan on making a run in the near future but have a gem for torch if I pull him
1)Colossus
2)Omega red
3)Claire
4)4* or 5* doctor voodoo or Ghost Rider synergy.
5)Corvus if you are not sure about collector but I still think colossus will tear collector apart.But backup option is always necessary.
Basically you will only be using Colossus and Claire.
Is there anything on YouTube at all showing this team do you know?
And what’s the Claire+GR synergy used for exactly?
I’m assuming Claire is just a replacement for doom with the benefit of being incinerate immune to counter mephisto.
1)Colossus
2)Omega Red
3)Doom
4)Claire(Trust me Claire does better than void against mephisto)
5)Corvus for collector
The only fight I am worried about is Mordo.For that IMIW Corvus with 200% power gain boost and special Attack increase boost Corvus will destroy that IMIW.If you are planning to bring void just for mephisto then I prefer not to bring void.
So in the end there is only one fight you should worry about that is Mordo.Omega red can take care of Mordo if you know the trick.Cause my alliance member did the entire first path with using omega red and Doom only.Doom is beast.I said Claire because of mephisto.But personally for path 1 Symbiote supreme is way better than Claire and Doom only for first path.So final conclusion is:
1)Colossus and omega red instead of Aegon.
2)Claire for mephisto
3)Doom for all cosmics(for path 1 I still prefer supreme)
4)Corvus for IMIW and Collector backup option.
I'm just saving units and trying to complete 6.3 while doing so before I take my first attempt. I just am about 4k units short at the moment
Void would be viable for mordo as his fatigue debuff disables his autoevade, if that’s the issue, don’t remember exactly what that mordo has though.
1)Colossus
2)Omega red
3)Doom
4)Void
5)Corvus
Easy abyss.If you play aggressive you can do it under 1500 units maybe under 1000 units cause Colossus has acyto do insane amount of damage.For invisible woman must activate resonate mastery.And beware from 1st thing fight casue he has protection on always.
Ægon
Doom
Bwcv
Corvus
I try to use this thread to ask a Abyss related Question for the case that there is no horseman (except Human torch).
Would my Team Work?
1.) Collossus
2.) Omega Red
3.) Symbiote Suprem (as Mystik Champion to nulify)
4.) Human Toch
5.) Corvus Glaive
I know that a lot of People suggest Human torch for Mephisto but Collossus is also incinerate immun.
Is Human Torch in this Team Set Up a huge support or could I cut him out and place instead of human torch my Heimdall to save some revives?
Or do you think that Human torch is a great help for further fights than Mephisto (for example invisible Woman or mordo)?
Please pardon me if a few of my Questions are answerd in the post below but I had read them all and I'm still unsure If my above mentioned Team is good for the easy path.
Many thanks for your help!
2nd point is Human Torch is atreat for that mephisto,Loki,Iron Man IW(Easy solo),and Mordo.
3rd point there will be only one fight difficult for you that is THING.Colossus has too much damage that means THING will continuously be activating his protection shield but you can there is a trick You can either use Omega red for thing or Colossus.Wirh Colossus don't let your armor up increase from above 15.Omega red will be best for Thing I have a o ega red guide post you can watch it.
Long story short your only problem is thing unless you are an omega red God.Rest of the fights Colossus will Tera apart.
Colossus
OR
HT
NF
Dr Doom / Symbiote Supreme