Legit question for the designer of Dani…

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  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★

    Dani Moonstar slaps. I took mine to rank 5. Her crit rate has not made a difference, and anyway it is OK with me for a champ to have limitations.

    Silk is amazing. Also have mine at rank 5. She's high on my ascension list, but not at the top.

    Colossus is also great. Maybe you don't know this, but his crit rate is increased by each armor he gets, so the base stats are just the starting point.

    Misinformation. His crit damage is increased by each armor up.
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★




    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    List of terrible stats this year:

    Zemo’s block proficiency: 61.8%
    Vox’s crit chance is 7.8% (atleast he can stack dex)
    Abs man crit rating: 11.1%, crit damage 143% and block prof 62.8%
    Fam base armor is 0% lol
    Morbius crit damage 121%
    Photon crit damage 126%
    Gladiator block proficiency 62.8% (even Kindred has 66.2% it’s terrible)
    Sandman stat page lol:


    Werewolf block prof 62.3%
    Cassie Lang block prof 61.3%
    Viv Vision stat page holy:


    Deathless Guilly block prof 61.8%
    Kushala block prof 61.8%
    Onslaught crit rate 15.5%
    Maestro stat page:

    90% of champions this year have great stats is a wrong statement.
    You can’t be this daft. Yeah, some stats lack because the champs abilities make up for it. AM gets more crit in his abilities, Cassie reduces damage with her debuffs and taunt, Viv was designed to use her phase block mechanic, Vox can increase his crit rate immensely and consistently crit, FAM gains armor and glances, etc

    Gladiator can also situationally negate 80% of all incoming damage.

    Every single one of their complaints about poor stats can be countered.
    What about Dani and Sandman?
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★

    Bro sincerely, are you looking for stuff where there is none? Stats are meant to be paired with the champion. Corvus glaive has 0% crit rate. I suppose you're going to complain about corvus's crit rate

    You’re offering an extreme example. I’m mostly looking at those 61.8% block proficiencies
    What's the issue with my example? 0% crit rate is way lower than the 61.8% , in fact some might even say you can't go lower. But I'm not mathematician. Might need to tag that RNA guy
    Because his abilities give him crit rate… same with FAM I included him for the jokes
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★

    Unless you have a Terrax high enough, Dani can be a real pain to fight in BGs. When balancing a Champ, the overall capability is considered. Not just putting Stats on par.

    What?
  • GalactikDonutGalactikDonut Member Posts: 393 ★★★
    i have a rank 3 dani and i think she’s great. she’s obv not on hercs level but she still hits hard and has some nice util. she’s getting a slight buff too which is nice
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★

    i have a rank 3 dani and i think she’s great. she’s obv not on hercs level but she still hits hard and has some nice util. she’s getting a slight buff too which is nice

    The point of this post originally was to note that she could use a buff in other matchps than Nick aswell
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    If only the mutant class had some sort of item that could increase the crit rate of special attacks dramatically, thereby increasing the expected damage output of a champions special attack

    You could call these items, idk Artefacts, or Mementos
    or relics
    . And then you could link it to certain champs items!! Like Magneto’s handkerchief, or Jubilee’s sock

    If only…


  • Darkrider05Darkrider05 Member Posts: 288 ★★★

    If only the mutant class had some sort of item that could increase the crit rate of special attacks dramatically, thereby increasing the expected damage output of a champions special attack

    You could call these items, idk Artefacts, or Mementos

    or relics
    . And then you could link it to certain champs items!! Like Magneto’s handkerchief, or Jubilee’s sock

    If only…


    Dani's special attacks are energy damage right?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★

    Unless you have a Terrax high enough, Dani can be a real pain to fight in BGs. When balancing a Champ, the overall capability is considered. Not just putting Stats on par.

    What?
    We've seen a number of Champs introduced that have some sort of special use or ability, which have considerably lower Stats. It's called balancing.
    There's nothing wrong with offering your thoughts on what could improve Champs, but having read a number of your Threads, I think you may have different expectations than the game team.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    If only the mutant class had some sort of item that could increase the crit rate of special attacks dramatically, thereby increasing the expected damage output of a champions special attack

    You could call these items, idk Artefacts, or Mementos

    or relics
    . And then you could link it to certain champs items!! Like Magneto’s handkerchief, or Jubilee’s sock

    If only…


    Are you seriously implying that everyone has a f*cking 6 star Gambit relic…
    Your inferring is not my implying. There are different star levels. The 5 star is perfectly workable. Dani’s damage is fine and not where her issues are
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    If only the mutant class had some sort of item that could increase the crit rate of special attacks dramatically, thereby increasing the expected damage output of a champions special attack

    You could call these items, idk Artefacts, or Mementos

    or relics
    . And then you could link it to certain champs items!! Like Magneto’s handkerchief, or Jubilee’s sock

    If only…


    Dani's special attacks are energy damage right?
    For her sp2 only the last hit is energy damage, all of the kick, then bullet hits are physical. She’s kinda busted with the gambit relic
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    I'm not going to speak on the stats cause when I tried my 6* she did crit at least once on every sp2 but I do think it's absolutely hilarious that she can't counter what she's supposed to counter like Nick or Herc lol
  • RuwqiersaRuwqiersa Member Posts: 714 ★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,868 ★★★★★
    Ruwqiersa said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
    Its almost like she can fully evade any special, reverse healing greatly, and counters both unstoppable and evade.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    Zuro said:

    Ruwqiersa said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
    Its almost like she can fully evade any special, reverse healing greatly, and counters both unstoppable and evade.
    This. The special evade is insane and fun to use too. Love dashing into Mangog’s sp2 and stuff lol. The stun on combo enders also allows her to cheese incursions with the increased stun duration
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,508 ★★★★★

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    this might actually be the worst take i have ever heard in my entire life. she is easily the 2nd best champ in the game and it is not even close.
    2nd best? it's time for you to come out of that sugarpill decay AW meta.
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★

    Unless you have a Terrax high enough, Dani can be a real pain to fight in BGs. When balancing a Champ, the overall capability is considered. Not just putting Stats on par.

    What?
    We've seen a number of Champs introduced that have some sort of special use or ability, which have considerably lower Stats. It's called balancing.
    There's nothing wrong with offering your thoughts on what could improve Champs, but having read a number of your Threads, I think you may have different expectations than the game team.
    I just despise when block proficiency is used to "balance" a champion. Or crit rate on a mutant…
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★
    Zuro said:

    Ruwqiersa said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
    Its almost like she can fully evade any special, reverse healing greatly, and counters both unstoppable and evade.
    Sandman can do that with more utility and immunities…
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

    Bro sincerely, are you looking for stuff where there is none? Stats are meant to be paired with the champion. Corvus glaive has 0% crit rate. I suppose you're going to complain about corvus's crit rate

    You’re offering an extreme example. I’m mostly looking at those 61.8% block proficiencies
    What's the issue with my example? 0% crit rate is way lower than the 61.8% , in fact some might even say you can't go lower. But I'm not mathematician. Might need to tag that RNA guy
    Because his abilities give him crit rate… same with FAM I included him for the jokes
    Oh wow, it's almost like every single champ you mentioned has some sort of abilities that compensate for the low base stats.
  • Hector_1475Hector_1475 Member Posts: 1,794 ★★★★★

    If only the mutant class had some sort of item that could increase the crit rate of special attacks dramatically, thereby increasing the expected damage output of a champions special attack

    You could call these items, idk Artefacts, or Mementos

    or relics
    . And then you could link it to certain champs items!! Like Magneto’s handkerchief, or Jubilee’s sock

    If only…


    Are you seriously implying that everyone has a f*cking 6 star Gambit relic…
    Your inferring is not my implying. There are different star levels. The 5 star is perfectly workable. Dani’s damage is fine and not where her issues are

    But then... if her damage is not the issue (in which we agree) then your fully ironic post above was totally out of context, isnt't it? Because it provides a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

    Do better next time.
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Zuro said:

    Ruwqiersa said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
    Its almost like she can fully evade any special, reverse healing greatly, and counters both unstoppable and evade.
    This. The special evade is insane and fun to use too. Love dashing into Mangog’s sp2 and stuff lol. The stun on combo enders also allows her to cheese incursions with the increased stun duration
    Cheese? Not really, I like my fights not lasting 10 minutes.
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★
    Zuro said:

    Ruwqiersa said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
    Its almost like she can fully evade any special, reverse healing greatly, and counters both unstoppable and evade.
    "any special" gang when true strike joins the function...
    Also, good luck reversing the regen when you need to be constantly hitting the opponent for it to even work half as well at sig 200 compared to unawakened sandman.
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,868 ★★★★★
    edited December 2023

    Zuro said:

    Ruwqiersa said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
    Its almost like she can fully evade any special, reverse healing greatly, and counters both unstoppable and evade.
    "any special" gang when true strike joins the function...
    Also, good luck reversing the regen when you need to be constantly hitting the opponent for it to even work half as well at sig 200 compared to unawakened sandman.
    When is the last time you saw a champ with true strike just constantly active, quit moving the goalpost thats like saying AA sucks because certain champs are bleed immune. Secondly,
    Last time i checked this is a FIGHTING game so i dont see the issue with having to hit the opponent to reverse regen, plus with despair it is even easier to manage. Ive even seen people take down ROL wolverine in like 40 secs with her. Lastly, you keep hyping up Sandman which is hilarious considering literally no one uses him, especially compared to Silk.
  • Ngoalong711Ngoalong711 Member Posts: 314 ★★


    Sandman can do that with more utility and immunities…
    sandman vs silk? not a chance. i ranked him up for last season of BG and regret it.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Zuro said:

    Ruwqiersa said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
    Its almost like she can fully evade any special, reverse healing greatly, and counters both unstoppable and evade.
    This. The special evade is insane and fun to use too. Love dashing into Mangog’s sp2 and stuff lol. The stun on combo enders also allows her to cheese incursions with the increased stun duration
    Cheese? Not really, I like my fights not lasting 10 minutes.
    She literally ends fights in like 30 seconds against mystics. I’ve taken fam and other defenders with her in less than 60 at rank 4. She hits like a truck, so essentially what I’m hearing is you don’t know how to use her and you’re clowning her for no reason. What a shock
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,026 ★★★★★

    Bro sincerely, are you looking for stuff where there is none? Stats are meant to be paired with the champion. Corvus glaive has 0% crit rate. I suppose you're going to complain about corvus's crit rate

    You’re offering an extreme example. I’m mostly looking at those 61.8% block proficiencies
    What's the issue with my example? 0% crit rate is way lower than the 61.8% , in fact some might even say you can't go lower. But I'm not mathematician. Might need to tag that RNA guy
    Because his abilities give him crit rate… same with FAM I included him for the jokes
    Oh wow, it's almost like every single champ you mentioned has some sort of abilities that compensate for the low base stats.
    It's almost like it's how champions are designed to work 🤔🤔. Like the devs knew they'd give a different ability to offset another....
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,450 ★★★★★
    edited December 2023

    Zuro said:

    Ruwqiersa said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
    Its almost like she can fully evade any special, reverse healing greatly, and counters both unstoppable and evade.
    "any special" gang when true strike joins the function...
    Also, good luck reversing the regen when you need to be constantly hitting the opponent for it to even work half as well at sig 200 compared to unawakened sandman.
    It’s not hard at all to keep it active lmao. She has the opponent in the corner for 90% of the fight, especially with the passive sp3 stun. Maybe go watch some videos instead of embarrassing yourself here. Also what true strike? TS is common with some skill champs that you wouldn’t use her for anyways. Barely any champs have TS that you need her for
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★
    Zuro said:

    Zuro said:

    Ruwqiersa said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    PT_99 said:

    It really feels that Kabam intentionally release newer champs with one of the main stats handicapped these days. Too afraid to create something OP and I'm afraid that onslaught might be let down.

    90% of champs this year are great and have solid stats lmao
    Ok, how many Hercules Kabam released this year? 🤓
    Silk and based on what i have seen Onsalught. so at least 2.
    Silk is the most overrated champion I’ve seen since Blade, you people have been enjoying the decay buff for too long hahaha
    Without decay silk at r4 still destroys any defender that can be stunned at 100% health. I’ve taken numerous battlegrounds fights with her and she wrecks them in under 60 seconds no problem. Great utility and some great damage. Then again, you obviously don’t have many smart takes based on this thread
    Whats silks "great" utility again?
    Its almost like she can fully evade any special, reverse healing greatly, and counters both unstoppable and evade.
    "any special" gang when true strike joins the function...
    Also, good luck reversing the regen when you need to be constantly hitting the opponent for it to even work half as well at sig 200 compared to unawakened sandman.
    When is the last time you saw a champ with true strike just constantly active, quit moving the goalpost thats like saying AA sucks because certain champs are bleed immune. Secondly,
    Last time i checked this is a FIGHTING game so i dont see the issue with having to hit the opponent to reverse regen, plus with despair it is even easier to manage. Ive even seen people take down ROL wolverine in like 40 secs with her. Lastly, you keep hyping up Sandman which is hilarious considering literally no one uses him, especially compared to Silk.
    Someone outing themselves for never taking an AW boss…
    Keep playing your Silk, can’t wait to see how she ages 👍
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,319 ★★★★★



    Sandman can do that with more utility and immunities…

    sandman vs silk? not a chance. i ranked him up for last season of BG and regret it.


    You’re all probably playing ascended Silks and then comparing her to your r4 Sandman… he’s got more utility. Period.
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