Thanks! It definitely isn't working for at least Morningstar as I ranked up her and Guillotine for their synergy and the other alliance has reported that Morningstar is never starting with 1 soul.
Agreed, an update would be nice. I bring Guilly for my unduped MS which is apparently now pointless so would appreciate an answer on when we can expect this to be fixed.
Edit: added two pics of my MS with 8 KOs and still sitting at 0 charges despite Guilly on team.
Synergies, or at least unique synergies, should never work in AWD. Unique synergies add powerful abilities to champs and once champ portraits are hidden again, you would have no way to plan for these situations. This adds a whole new level of random to war offence and can result in almost impossible matchups in some cases unless you bring some very specific champs. For example, if you place MS with meph synergy on a power start 1 node, she'd have an L3 ready to at the beginning of the fight, or place ant man with doc ock and he's a walking thorns node. You'd have no way to avoid or prepare for such fights
Synergies, or at least unique synergies, should never work in AWD. Unique synergies add powerful abilities to champs and once champ portraits are hidden again, you would have no way to plan for these situations. This adds a whole new level of random to war offence and can result in almost impossible matchups in some cases unless you bring some very specific champs. For example, if you place MS with meph synergy on a power start 1 node, she'd have an L3 ready to at the beginning of the fight, or place ant man with doc ock and he's a walking thorns node. You'd have no way to avoid or prepare for such fights
I completely disagree with you. It adds an extra layer of strategy to defensive placements and an extra layer of challenge to attack. Not every war should be 100% to 100%.
Synergies, or at least unique synergies, should never work in AWD. Unique synergies add powerful abilities to champs and once champ portraits are hidden again, you would have no way to plan for these situations. This adds a whole new level of random to war offence and can result in almost impossible matchups in some cases unless you bring some very specific champs. For example, if you place MS with meph synergy on a power start 1 node, she'd have an L3 ready to at the beginning of the fight, or place ant man with doc ock and he's a walking thorns node. You'd have no way to avoid or prepare for such fights
Once the champ portraits are hidden again you can't plan ahead about specific champs anyway..
Synergies, or at least unique synergies, should never work in AWD. Unique synergies add powerful abilities to champs and once champ portraits are hidden again, you would have no way to plan for these situations. This adds a whole new level of random to war offence and can result in almost impossible matchups in some cases unless you bring some very specific champs. For example, if you place MS with meph synergy on a power start 1 node, she'd have an L3 ready to at the beginning of the fight, or place ant man with doc ock and he's a walking thorns node. You'd have no way to avoid or prepare for such fights
I completely disagree with you. It adds an extra layer of strategy to defensive placements and an extra layer of challenge to attack. Not every war should be 100% to 100%.
What challenge? You won't even know if the next mystic on the map will hit you with an sp3 right at the beginning of a fight. Or if that science champ on the bleed/poison node will have a permanent thorns buff or not. You could at least plan for these abilities in the original war because they were granted by nodes and you knew which nodes were on your path. With unique synergies, any champ on the map might have those abilities and you'd have no way of knowing
Synergies, or at least unique synergies, should never work in AWD. Unique synergies add powerful abilities to champs and once champ portraits are hidden again, you would have no way to plan for these situations. This adds a whole new level of random to war offence and can result in almost impossible matchups in some cases unless you bring some very specific champs. For example, if you place MS with meph synergy on a power start 1 node, she'd have an L3 ready to at the beginning of the fight, or place ant man with doc ock and he's a walking thorns node. You'd have no way to avoid or prepare for such fights
Once the champ portraits are hidden again you can't plan ahead about specific champs anyway..
Synergies, or at least unique synergies, should never work in AWD. Unique synergies add powerful abilities to champs and once champ portraits are hidden again, you would have no way to plan for these situations. This adds a whole new level of random to war offence and can result in almost impossible matchups in some cases unless you bring some very specific champs. For example, if you place MS with meph synergy on a power start 1 node, she'd have an L3 ready to at the beginning of the fight, or place ant man with doc ock and he's a walking thorns node. You'd have no way to avoid or prepare for such fights
I completely disagree with you. It adds an extra layer of strategy to defensive placements and an extra layer of challenge to attack. Not every war should be 100% to 100%.
What tier are you playing war in? Come to (the lower half) and it’s tier 1 and it’s not 100% to 100%. The noses and champs in tier 1 are insane compared to tier 2 and below. When we drop down, we 100% everything with little item use. But in tier 1, people are burning potions left and right on both sides. I may stop playing war if champs get hidden again bc it will be borderline impossible with what the nodes are now, particularly when combined with unique synergies.
Synergies, or at least unique synergies, should never work in AWD. Unique synergies add powerful abilities to champs and once champ portraits are hidden again, you would have no way to plan for these situations. This adds a whole new level of random to war offence and can result in almost impossible matchups in some cases unless you bring some very specific champs. For example, if you place MS with meph synergy on a power start 1 node, she'd have an L3 ready to at the beginning of the fight, or place ant man with doc ock and he's a walking thorns node. You'd have no way to avoid or prepare for such fights
I completely disagree with you. It adds an extra layer of strategy to defensive placements and an extra layer of challenge to attack. Not every war should be 100% to 100%.
What tier are you playing war in? Come to (the lower half) and it’s tier 1 and it’s not 100% to 100%. The noses and champs in tier 1 are insane compared to tier 2 and below. When we drop down, we 100% everything with little item use. But in tier 1, people are burning potions left and right on both sides. I may stop playing war if champs get hidden again bc it will be borderline impossible with what the nodes are now, particularly when combined with unique synergies.
Please tell us. What war tier are you in?
I've been in a bunch of different tiers. 3 currently, but I've been in 1 plenty in the past. I'm well aware of how difficult the current tier 1 war is.
Synergies are supposed to work on defense. If you can't clear a map without pots, maybe take the loss. You should be losing about 1/2 your wars if the system worked perfectly.
Synergies, or at least unique synergies, should never work in AWD. Unique synergies add powerful abilities to champs and once champ portraits are hidden again, you would have no way to plan for these situations. This adds a whole new level of random to war offence and can result in almost impossible matchups in some cases unless you bring some very specific champs. For example, if you place MS with meph synergy on a power start 1 node, she'd have an L3 ready to at the beginning of the fight, or place ant man with doc ock and he's a walking thorns node. You'd have no way to avoid or prepare for such fights
I think this is more of a point against OP synergies than synergies in AWD. Yondu + NC/Beast is clearly a defensive minded synergy and it's BS that it's not working properly. If you see a science node and don't bring ability reduction, then that's on you. I'd assume it was spidey or electro, so Antman with thorn dmg wouldn't ruin anything for me in that regard. MS synergy with Mephisto gives 2 bars or 1? Either way, those should be changed if it's that OP that people can start with full power. If they just start with 2, then it's no different than OG Vision on a 1 bar node.
Hey all. This is still being looked into, and the team is hoping to have some insight into the root cause shortly. Again, I'll post an update asap. Thanks!
Hey all. This is still being looked into, and the team is hoping to have some insight into the root cause shortly. Again, I'll post an update asap. Thanks!
Wanted to check since it wasn't in the patch notes for 17.0, this is still not fixed?
Synergies, or at least unique synergies, should never work in AWD. Unique synergies add powerful abilities to champs and once champ portraits are hidden again, you would have no way to plan for these situations. This adds a whole new level of random to war offence and can result in almost impossible matchups in some cases unless you bring some very specific champs. For example, if you place MS with meph synergy on a power start 1 node, she'd have an L3 ready to at the beginning of the fight, or place ant man with doc ock and he's a walking thorns node. You'd have no way to avoid or prepare for such fights
I think this is more of a point against OP synergies than synergies in AWD. Yondu + NC/Beast is clearly a defensive minded synergy and it's BS that it's not working properly. If you see a science node and don't bring ability reduction, then that's on you. I'd assume it was spidey or electro, so Antman with thorn dmg wouldn't ruin anything for me in that regard. MS synergy with Mephisto gives 2 bars or 1? Either way, those should be changed if it's that OP that people can start with full power. If they just start with 2, then it's no different than OG Vision on a 1 bar node.
All that is fine except that other than AA, no other champ can reduce ant man's ability accuracy. Place him on any bleed/poison immune node, and AA is useless. Place him on any bleed/poison node and the only way you'll survive I'd if you get very lucky with bleed procs. Same if he's placed on an all or nothing node
It may seem bad to say, but I have a sneaky suspicion that this has just been swept under the rug and ignored. Some synergies look like they're solely built for Alliance War defence, and the Synergies still don't work on Defence. Lel.
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Edit: added two pics of my MS with 8 KOs and still sitting at 0 charges despite Guilly on team.
I completely disagree with you. It adds an extra layer of strategy to defensive placements and an extra layer of challenge to attack. Not every war should be 100% to 100%.
Would help in making rank up decisions.
I’m not asking for an immediate fix, just confirmation one way or the other.
Once the champ portraits are hidden again you can't plan ahead about specific champs anyway..
http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/41071/synergies-on-aw-defense#latest
What challenge? You won't even know if the next mystic on the map will hit you with an sp3 right at the beginning of a fight. Or if that science champ on the bleed/poison node will have a permanent thorns buff or not. You could at least plan for these abilities in the original war because they were granted by nodes and you knew which nodes were on your path. With unique synergies, any champ on the map might have those abilities and you'd have no way of knowing
That's what I said in my post...
What tier are you playing war in? Come to (the lower half) and it’s tier 1 and it’s not 100% to 100%. The noses and champs in tier 1 are insane compared to tier 2 and below. When we drop down, we 100% everything with little item use. But in tier 1, people are burning potions left and right on both sides. I may stop playing war if champs get hidden again bc it will be borderline impossible with what the nodes are now, particularly when combined with unique synergies.
Please tell us. What war tier are you in?
I've been in a bunch of different tiers. 3 currently, but I've been in 1 plenty in the past. I'm well aware of how difficult the current tier 1 war is.
Synergies are supposed to work on defense. If you can't clear a map without pots, maybe take the loss. You should be losing about 1/2 your wars if the system worked perfectly.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/46042/aw-synergy-problem
I think this is more of a point against OP synergies than synergies in AWD. Yondu + NC/Beast is clearly a defensive minded synergy and it's BS that it's not working properly. If you see a science node and don't bring ability reduction, then that's on you. I'd assume it was spidey or electro, so Antman with thorn dmg wouldn't ruin anything for me in that regard. MS synergy with Mephisto gives 2 bars or 1? Either way, those should be changed if it's that OP that people can start with full power. If they just start with 2, then it's no different than OG Vision on a 1 bar node.
Wanted to check since it wasn't in the patch notes for 17.0, this is still not fixed?
All that is fine except that other than AA, no other champ can reduce ant man's ability accuracy. Place him on any bleed/poison immune node, and AA is useless. Place him on any bleed/poison node and the only way you'll survive I'd if you get very lucky with bleed procs. Same if he's placed on an all or nothing node