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Can Someone Give Us Exact Info on BG Matchmaking Rules?!
Hello, can you tell us exactly how matchmaking works in BG? For example, what are the point ranges per minute in matchmaking? Also, what are the maximum and minimum points lost/gained? I thought it was 25/5, but I got 2 and 3 several times today.
Notably, I matched with this person after 3 minutes and another after 2 minutes. I thought this kind of matchmaking would happen only after 5 minutes. It seems that if you lose one of these kinds of matches, you need 10 wins to get the points back, which seems a bit harsh. This is especially concerning, considering that this season there are more modders at a lower level.
Wouldn't it be better if you kept it at the 25/5 range?! Also, I think it would be better if this kind of matchmaking only happened after the 5-minute mark and within 5 minutes kept a 200-point range as it was before.
Thank you!

Notably, I matched with this person after 3 minutes and another after 2 minutes. I thought this kind of matchmaking would happen only after 5 minutes. It seems that if you lose one of these kinds of matches, you need 10 wins to get the points back, which seems a bit harsh. This is especially concerning, considering that this season there are more modders at a lower level.
Wouldn't it be better if you kept it at the 25/5 range?! Also, I think it would be better if this kind of matchmaking only happened after the 5-minute mark and within 5 minutes kept a 200-point range as it was before.
Thank you!


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Do you agree that Hulkling is too strong to be a 7* ?
Yesterday, Karate Mike made the claim that the game is not ready for a 7* Hulkling, which caught me by surprise since Mike is a well reknowned BGs player so is obviously in loop on competitive game modes and that there already are champs more broken than Hulkling in the game.
We have D. Thanos, Serpent, Juggernaut etc.
Hulkling is not a long form content champ unlike for example Kate.
On defense he has a ton more counters nowadays, especially compared to other dual threat champs like Medusa , in fact you don't even need a mystic to fight him.
Champs like Onslaught are not only a potent dual threat but have tremendous use in other games including Long Form Content.
Tigra who ALREADY IS in the crystal is even more broken than Hulkling, as echoed by several on the forums. She's not shut down by as many nodes as Juggernaut, and takes on a myriad of defenders, including Serpent, D Thanos, Thing, Kindred, Red Skull, Zola, Nick Fury, Sentinel.

This Screenshot is against a rank 4 Red SKull so she is literally punching up 2 ranks, and all it took was a single sp2. So just imagine a rank 4 sig 200 where only a single sp2 will nuke even the tankier defenders. Majority of the people living under a cave think she's fine to release since she has a high skill ceiling, but even Trappy said the skill requirement in BGs is significantly less in a video where he agreed shed be too OP as a 7*.
We can all see the retaliation in regards to the exclusive 36k unit paywalled Dark Phoenix, we get that the company needs to make money, so EVEN IF you guys thought Hulkling was too strong to be a 7*, you could have at least put Galan in the crystal and put a different champ in his place for the Titan.
Alternatively, the other option could have been to just put Dark Phoenix within the crystal as if you're only interested in say 3 of the 5 champs, and you manage to pull them early on, you still have to drop loads of units to get her.
July 4 which many argue will benefit a player overall more , already has a 36k spend for the chase champ, so having this one also require 36k just seems like a slap to the face. At least, Hulkling could have made the spend more worth it as with 6 champs in the crystal, now youll be more inclined to spend more units and end up closer to the 36k for Phoenix . Especially since Apoc won't be starting with extra charges in BGs
We have D. Thanos, Serpent, Juggernaut etc.
Hulkling is not a long form content champ unlike for example Kate.
On defense he has a ton more counters nowadays, especially compared to other dual threat champs like Medusa , in fact you don't even need a mystic to fight him.
Champs like Onslaught are not only a potent dual threat but have tremendous use in other games including Long Form Content.
Tigra who ALREADY IS in the crystal is even more broken than Hulkling, as echoed by several on the forums. She's not shut down by as many nodes as Juggernaut, and takes on a myriad of defenders, including Serpent, D Thanos, Thing, Kindred, Red Skull, Zola, Nick Fury, Sentinel.

This Screenshot is against a rank 4 Red SKull so she is literally punching up 2 ranks, and all it took was a single sp2. So just imagine a rank 4 sig 200 where only a single sp2 will nuke even the tankier defenders. Majority of the people living under a cave think she's fine to release since she has a high skill ceiling, but even Trappy said the skill requirement in BGs is significantly less in a video where he agreed shed be too OP as a 7*.
We can all see the retaliation in regards to the exclusive 36k unit paywalled Dark Phoenix, we get that the company needs to make money, so EVEN IF you guys thought Hulkling was too strong to be a 7*, you could have at least put Galan in the crystal and put a different champ in his place for the Titan.
Alternatively, the other option could have been to just put Dark Phoenix within the crystal as if you're only interested in say 3 of the 5 champs, and you manage to pull them early on, you still have to drop loads of units to get her.
July 4 which many argue will benefit a player overall more , already has a 36k spend for the chase champ, so having this one also require 36k just seems like a slap to the face. At least, Hulkling could have made the spend more worth it as with 6 champs in the crystal, now youll be more inclined to spend more units and end up closer to the 36k for Phoenix . Especially since Apoc won't be starting with extra charges in BGs

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Re: If you have the units or cash - Max Heart of Fire? or save for July 4th?
This event comes with champion guarantees, July 4th will come with rank up guarantees. I guess it depends on what your priority is right now. But if you're already in grind mode for units, then it shouldn't be too hard to get yourself a good stash by the 4th.

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Re: Advice on onslaught
I find it tricky to get intervals for heavy when they're aren't stunned to pause neuroshock. Anyone got any tips when fighting as onslaught to use heavy when they NOT stunned?In non PvP fights like questing (anything that doesn't have the limber mastery on the defender), you can parry light light heavy and that'll get you the extended pause.

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Re: Lumatrix
Okay, I'm at 8, I have 4 left to complete, I thought I could get them in (the nightmare raid, the next Battleground season and maybe a next showcase?) I'm finishing mystery 2, usually impossible to reach celestreThis is the last bg season to get one next month the new saga will start and the new chase for the next eidol will start
Re: Lumatrix
Rank celestial in BGs, or rank 1 in arena. Except that only whales can get him. Invest in the 6 star if you don't plan on doing any of these.
Re: RED AND DEAD DISCOUNT SHED - CHECK IN!
As a f2p, I am not enjoying.
The event is great, I am the problem here. More specifically, my decision paralysis is.
Do I pick Onslaught? But my 6* is max sig r4... or America? 7* Kushala dupp, despite having her 6* r4 sig200 Asc? Silk, whom I never played? Or Angela dupp to dump all my sigs into? Or DPX? Photon?
Aaaah
The event is great, I am the problem here. More specifically, my decision paralysis is.
Do I pick Onslaught? But my 6* is max sig r4... or America? 7* Kushala dupp, despite having her 6* r4 sig200 Asc? Silk, whom I never played? Or Angela dupp to dump all my sigs into? Or DPX? Photon?
Aaaah


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Re: R4 7* Titania or Red Guardian?
If you spent that much money to get red guardian, might as well r4 the man. He is a nuke
Re: Do you agree that Hulkling is too strong to be a 7* ?
FAM is in my opinion an even bigger deal than Tigra, he may not be a nuke (tho he still finishes most fights in 40 secs) but he is 100% one of the best dual threat champs in the entire game. Defensively, ten times better than Hulkling it's a guaranteed timeout without a counter if RNG decides to trigger his armor buffs too often and interrupts your rotations, Hulkling you can still manage even if it's a long fight and you can't parry at all, you won't timeout and you can come out full health. offensively he can handle both short and long form content (Hulkling sucks for long form content) and he can handle most current meta defenders easily (Onslaught, Photon, Bullseye, Dust, Red Skull, Arcade etc).These were exactly my thoughts, saying the game is not ready then proceeding to add Tigra and FAM is absolutely laughable lol I think the actual reason they didn't go for it is because they knew if Hulkling was locked behind that final milestone (and they absolutely wanted to lock one champ behind that final milestone to make even more money of course) there would've been a lot backlash so instead they just added a champ we knew nothing about until the spotlight came out which softened the blow, as seen in the other thread where most people seem to be completely fine with them locking a 4.5/5 defender behind one of the highest paywalls of the year, bummer but I'm probably going to have to spend 💀Good catch in bringing up FAM that I left out. I think in BGs they are either equal or close, however one crucial point which makes FAM better overall is that he is significantly the better long form content champ.
The Carina Challenge by MSD for Dimensional Beings, I was able to do 50% of Silver Centurions health and this was just a 6*.
Imagine how devastating the 7* will be.
The 7* is going to be absolutely busted and the fact that they still had the nerve to claim Hulkling is too much for the game right now is wild and funny at the same time lol if that is the case then FAM has no business being in that crystal either. Sure Hulkling is a faster nuke, but FAM makes up for it by being way better on defense and being great for long form content as well.
Hands down, the best champ in that crystal by far and even if Hulkling had been in it, I would still put FAM at the same level as Hulkling for all the reasons I just mentioned.
Re: Im the only one who think the GC point system is very bad
I think this is why they are looking into weighted match making and taking into account consecutive losses in the future.they already make losses count less if you lose to someone much higher than you. its just not noticeable at low levels cause everyone is the same amount of points. i saw a match today where someone with 600 points matched someone with 200 points and the higher guy only won 2 points. but 99% of people in gc are playing at a level where everyone is gonna have the same amount of points so you always win/lost around 16 points
Battlegrounds structurally is set up similar to how Madden Mobile used to be configured years ago. I got relatively good at it (better than BGs for sure). But if you got on a run of wins, your competition threshold went up. Get on losing streak, and they would throw you a bone or two so that you didn’t feel like you were getting beat to a pulp.
There were two things they did differently that I appreciated. 1) if you were facing someone higher up in the ranks and lost, that loss didn’t count as much as losing to someone in your own rank or lower. That made it easier to stay in and try to pull off the upset. (Understand, this was based in rank, not roster). 2) the first few rounds of their victory track was bots… and not very good ones. So players just trying to figure out the game could still play the mode without getting trounced.