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Do you actually (normally) receive some sort of REWARDS (like crystals, etc) in game mail when you advance ?
Or is it just that the Mail tells you the various stuff that is now “unlocked” for you ?

I would image that if you skipped over Paragon and directly became Valiant, that any of the “requirements” for certain Selectors or Content that is based on Paragon would also be satisfied by being Valiant instead.

However (and maybe this point is the “unknown”), I wonder if you just would NOT have the TITLE of Paragon in your Title Inventory. (*even though that may not make any difference at all with anything in the game .. other than not being able to choose it to show as your Summoner Title).

I am unaware of a reward that is explicitly triggered when a progression title is achieved. Progression titles unlock rewards, but they don’t in general directly award any.

There are circumstances where a reward has a particular progression title as a prerequisite and gaining a progression title can then grant that reward. But I’m pretty sure all such situations are “or higher” situations.

What I’ve been told is that if you have the Valiant title, you’re supposed to have the Paragon title as well. And in this case “supposed to” means “game is told to do that.” You could satisfy the *listed* requirements for Valiant before Paragon, but those requirements would trigger you getting Paragon if you didn’t already have it.

Of course, MCOC being MCOC, until someone tries, we won’t know what the game actually does. But if a player ever gains the Valiant title without gaining Paragon, I can basically guarantee the devs will consider that to be a bug they would not want to let hang around for long.

I should point out that while I do not know how progression titles are implemented, I do know that internally they are often referenced by number. Which means it is entirely possible this entire discussion is moot, because it might literally be impossible to achieve a higher title without possessing the lower ones. To wit, it is possible that when you satisfy the Valiant requirements you become “progression 9” and when you do all the things you expect to get are triggered not on the requirements, but just on you being Progression 9. The Valiant title, for example, might simply be set to award when “player progression >= 9”. In which case all the Paragon stuff, like say the title “Paragon” would trigger not on satisfying the Paragon requirements, but just on “player progression >= 8”.

Being Progression 9 would thus trigger all the stuff that ordinarily happens when you reach progression 8, even if you never satisfy the listed requirements for progression 8.

Thanks for posting this - I would like to learn to use Wong too if he is a requirement for the challenge. Dread going back to Necropolis without my trusty Aegon

There isn't a ton to learn, sp1 to cast the spells, sp2 refreshes them. His charges convert into power when you charge your heavy, and if you launch sp2 from the heavy charge it is unblockable. Sp3 also refreshes spells and applies fateseal. Light combo ender cycles which spell you will cast next.

Typically you want to cast all your spells 3 times each via sp1s, adding in sp2s to refresh as needed, then once you have 3 of each, switch to just doing sp2. If you want to you can go straight to sp3 to start to get one of each. If you have any active spells sp3 just refreshes instead of giving one of each.

Spells
Brown gives physical resistance
Green heals from energy damage, both taken and felt
Blue does energy damage on all hits

They also all have some added benefit in terms of getting his charges faster, and blue gives you a brief unstoppable when the defender gains a buff, but that's largely unimportant.

It not possible you won’t get valiant with it. Some tried it one discord.

I hope they find this thread and can clarify it😄
I really want to do it, but I also really don't want to miss out on those 7*s

It's been clarified in the past. You are unable to skip progressions. You have the be at the previous title in order to advance to the next.

I know a year ago, the devs told me that it should be theoretically possible to skip progressions

I thought someone tried it here on the forums and it didn't work. I can see skipping the lower ones but didn't think TB to Valiant is possible.

I'd be curious to know who attempted this, because when the requirements were first announced I specifically asked what would happen if, and what I was told was the game was *supposed* to award the progress titles in order. In other words, all the progression requirements listed in the game are "or higher." In other words, if you complete the requirements for Paragon you get the Paragon title. But if you don't and you complete the requirements for Valiant you will by doing so satisfy the requirements for Paragon as well, and get both titles in order at that time.

To put it another way, the requirements for Cavalier award Cavalier and all titles below it. The requirements for Thronebreaker award TB and all titles below that. The requirements for Paragon award Paragon and all titles below that, and the requirements for Valiant award Valiant and all titles below that.

At least, that is how it is supposed to work. If anyone tried and failed let me know so I can report that to the ops guys at Kabam.