It's all stupid! Thousands of loyal players who worked hard on building up their roster to not be able to use them in the future. What about all of us that only have eight or less 5 Star Champions? Or those of us who don't even have a 6 Star Champion yet but are half way done with Act 5? So we just continue to replay the same boring long winded maps over and over again in hopes to get crystal shards that won't help us anymore?
"You can arena grind." Oh yeah, really? Have any of you at Kabam actually spent the time to grind in an arena? Do you even know how long it actually takes the average player to get over a million arena points with almost a no 5 star roster?
Do you people even play the game? Obviously not! But wait, why would anyone at Kabam actually have to play the game from scratch when all you have to do is type in that special secret account info and have access to every character with maxed abilities!
Why don't you just go in and ban 4 star champions from doing Act 1, 2 & 3 and ban 5 star champions from doing anything except Act 6 while your at it. Ban 2 and 3 stars champions from playing Act 3 or Act 4. Ban 2, 3 and 4 Stars from doing Uncollected! Why don't you just go into the game and ban every ranked star to be useless from here on out!
I'm not sitting on a stellar Roster, but it's not horrible. I even used a Skill Gem on HE and took him to R4 because my pulls are hit-or-miss. The point I'm making is in order for Act 6 to exist, it has to be harder than Act 5. 4*s carried people through Act 5. They can't be expected to do the same for Act 6. Which means we either have to make do with what we have, or wait for something else to come along. Not the end of the world. It'll still be there. No one says people have to rush out and buy every Crystal that comes. You could, if you didn't have patience. However, I find it extremely hard to believe that out of an average of let's say, 30 or 40 5*s in someone's Roster, there's not something they can use to get started on it. Again, if people are waiting around for Corvus, Ghost, or Aegon, they could be using what they have in the meantime.
I used 4* in variant aswell so dont u start with your “act 6 is harder” And second if this 4* ban does not affect you why are you trying to ruin other peoples fun in game who game is affected?
I'm not trying to ruin anything. It's not my decision. It was theirs, and they made it. It also affects me because I'm a Player. The same roadblock applies to me too. I'm trying to explain the situation. If you can take a 4* into Variant, then you should have no problems taking your 5*s into Act 6.
I managed to take 4* to variant because they are still strong champions and they are much stronger than my 5* roster just as i said before, i dont know why i have to keep on repeating myself.
There's literally a few Champs that aren't available as 5*s. If you have the skill to make it through Variant with 4* strong Champs, then you have the skill to make it through Act 6 with mediocre Champs. 100%. That's the point I was trying to make. People get so hung up on having the same Champs they don't see their own skill and ability to use others.
I'm not sitting on a stellar Roster, but it's not horrible. I even used a Skill Gem on HE and took him to R4 because my pulls are hit-or-miss. The point I'm making is in order for Act 6 to exist, it has to be harder than Act 5. 4*s carried people through Act 5. They can't be expected to do the same for Act 6. Which means we either have to make do with what we have, or wait for something else to come along. Not the end of the world. It'll still be there. No one says people have to rush out and buy every Crystal that comes. You could, if you didn't have patience. However, I find it extremely hard to believe that out of an average of let's say, 30 or 40 5*s in someone's Roster, there's not something they can use to get started on it. Again, if people are waiting around for Corvus, Ghost, or Aegon, they could be using what they have in the meantime.
I used 4* in variant aswell so dont u start with your “act 6 is harder” And second if this 4* ban does not affect you why are you trying to ruin other peoples fun in game who game is affected?
I'm not trying to ruin anything. It's not my decision. It was theirs, and they made it. It also affects me because I'm a Player. The same roadblock applies to me too. I'm trying to explain the situation. If you can take a 4* into Variant, then you should have no problems taking your 5*s into Act 6.
I managed to take 4* to variant because they are still strong champions and they are much stronger than my 5* roster just as i said before, i dont know why i have to keep on repeating myself.
There's literally a few Champs that aren't available as 5*s. If you have the skill to make it through Variant with 4* strong Champs, then you have the skill to make it through Act 6 with mediocre Champs. 100%. That's the point I was trying to make. People get so hung up on having the same Champs they don't see their own skill and ability to use others.
That doesn’t make any sense. 4* AA is still AA and doesn’t what AA does. Using a mediocre champ in place of a AA when AA is needed doesn’t make any sense.
We wanted to touch on the availability of 5-Star (and 6-Star) Champions. They have been and will continue to be a focus of the Content this year
Similar to Uncollected, reaching Cavalier is going to be major milestone for Summoners. After introducing Uncollected in Act 5 Ch 2, we rolled out content with rewards that helped Summoners reach that progress point, and from there have been adding content and rewards that have (and will) help Summoners reach Cavalier.
As part of the introduction of Act 6 and Cavalier, we will also be introducing more content that will help Summoners gain 5 and 6-Star Champions. Some of that content will include, Champion Challenges, several large meta-events and Event Quests as well as, the next iteration of Back Issues. Additionally, we are taking a look at Arenas to see if we can make 5-Star Champions more accessible.
In preparation to the release of Act 6 we have accelerated the rate at which players can gain 5-Star Shards and the materials to Rank them up. Love Is a Battlerealm, Nick Fury's Recon Initiatives, special events like the Road to Greatness Arena, and Monthly Calendars were designed with 5-Star escalation in mind.
Also, we are slowly adding older Characters as 5-Star Champions, while ensuring that overall game balance is factored into the Champion selection.
The requirements in Chapter 1 are set as a primer for rest of Act 6. Act 6 Chapter 2 and beyond will also have Champion Requirements, including some more stringent ones like paths that have Class Requirements for your entire team, and Rarity requirements where you must bring [X] amount of 5-Star or 6-Star Champions to complete the quest path.
Thank you all for your continued feedback!
You are not hearing the feedback, bc it has been all about how by denying the use of 4* you are removing strategy from the game as well as targeting on skilled players by denying them the option to further complete content
Adding to these you will further hurt at least 90% of the community by denying access with 6* barrages, which is obvious targeted to money spenders
The last thing cant be denied, since to get a solid roster of 5-6* champs you dont just need "skill" you need ways to get shards and then luck to pull viable champs, in a basic pool the odds at pulling one champ is less than 1% whuch diminishes every 2 weeks.
You will say, well there are the featured 5* crystals abd while that is truth 60-70% of the champs in those are not solid pulls, ~25% of those are maybe useful for certain things and only around 5% are great champs that can guarantee clearing content.
So the more shards you get the bigger the odds at pulling a desired champ, and while there are ways to get those shards in a balanced way, the spenders and ytubers whom seek attention will easily buy units to get crystals with featured champs and that will by itself add to their shards
I get this being a business and is true you do kinda well, but i dont see how you would do worse by really listening and taking to what most are telling you
There has been some uproar. Act 6 has been hyped for weeks now, big is in the disappointment that Kabam have put champion requirements. Many speak of the end of the 4*. But is that necessarily bad? Let me start with a story.
As everyone else, I started this game a year ago with two 1*: Spider-Man and Wolverine (Iron Man was another option). In the beginning I levelled them up, but from the moment I got my first 2* I abandoned them quite fast. I didn't mourn them, I knew that was the natural progression of the game.
As I ranked my 2* up to rank 3, I got my first 3*, Winter Soldier. Costs to level-up 2* were growing and it was economically more efficient to invest my precious gold and ISO-8 into Winter Soldier rather than my Black Panther (Civil War), which I loved playing with very much (yes, I know he's technically thrash but foolish newbie me liked his animations and he did get the job done). I didn't mourn them, I knew that was the natural progression of the game.
To progress in the game as fast as possible, I levelled-up the strongest of my 3*. I abandoned my Winter Soldier at 2/20, in favor for Hyperion, Mephisto and Stark Spidey. But progress also meant I was getting my first 4*. These were Red Hulk, Bishop and Taskmaster. As I maxed out my strongest three, I start to switch more and more to 4*. My awakened Hyperion lasted the longest, I even used him in AQ, but as soon as I got a 4* Hyperion he was condemned to the dust bin as well, only to be used as arena fodder. I didn't mourn them, I knew that was the natural progression of the game.
4* are a curious tier. They were long the highest tier. Then came 5* and now even 6*. The progression of this game is relentless. It is normal for 4* to share the same fate as 3*. If Kabam banned 3* from Act 5, would anyone protest? No, as the realisation that 3* is not part of anyone's roster when going for uncollected is evident. Neither should 4* when players are going for Act 6
So why do players resist? Nostalgia, partly, but it is deeper. The game shifts towards synergies, and gave 4* a second life. I do think Kabam is to blame for this, in an effort to entice players into buying more crystals, they made gameplay more dependent not only on getting that one champion once or even twice, but a whole matching set of champions. They reap what they sow: like junkies, players cannot function without their signature abilities and synergies. You could even say that players are spoiled, it is not enough to play good, but to play at maximum potential. The alternative seems impossible.
It is all folly. As Kabam makes acquiring 5* crystal shards easier and (demi) god tier champions more plentiful, the need for 4* will continue to drop in the future. 4* are a dead end street. I know it and deep down, everyone else does to.
Dear protesters full of indignation, do not be the Don Quichots fighting against wind mills. Do not be like the rusty old folks, stuck in a past that doesn't exist anymore. Do not be the flat earthers, denying reality. Embrace the progress of this game. Adapt to it. Say goodbye to your 4*.
People resist because rather than having 3 possible pools to choose from and get a champion that can counter a specific node, we are forced to only two which in some cases do have a champion missing from either of the two pools (AA, Iceman, blade, BB, Daredevil, gamora). For that reason players who are less lucky and don’t have the means overcome that luck by spending are cut at the knees. Skill doesn’t come into play because a bad champion is still a bad champion regardless of rarity. I’d rather fight a Sig 200 6* Magik with 4* AA than a double duped r1 6* Juggernaut.
When act 6 was teased at through those ingame messages you could feel the excitement rising, I was really looking forward to it, finally the concluding chapter to this storyline (or this battlerealm, whatever). But in a couple of days you guys (kabam) have, through a couple of announcements, turned that excitement into dust. The restriction of 4*’s in 6.1 is real shady move, but to top on that you actually manage to turn a so called ****storm into a steaming pile of ****storm with the announcement of some pretty vague and unclear restrictions in 6.2 6.1 hasn’t been released yet and we’re already mad about 6.2. Just.......wow........o_O
Knocks out alot of skilled ftp players who dont have crazy good 5* 6* rosters who've completed everything else. They also gonna limit it further by making some of it to where you have to have so many 6*s on your team. Unless your insanely good or pay alot your not gonna have that many good 6*s
5 star basic arena, upgrade lesser/greater solo crystals, upgrade monthly main event rewards ( been the same for over a year) then maybe we can consider it fair
The requirements in Chapter 1 are set as a primer for rest of Act 6. Act 6 Chapter 2 and beyond will also have Champion Requirements, including some more stringent ones like paths that have Class Requirements for your entire team, and Rarity requirements where you must bring [X] amount of 5-Star or 6-Star Champions to complete the quest path.
@Kabam Miike, Kabam absolutely lost my support of the 4* ban with this. I mean, Act 5 release was over the course of a few months. To go from a 4* gate, to path gates of 6* is a little too much, especially if you stagger class and rarity requirements (all must be Science and 3 of this must be 6*).
6* are far too rare to put a restriction or gate of having. I can understand the 4* gates... as many players have a plethora of 5* (though maybe not ones that give the best synergies). I am sorry, but I just joined the rest of the community on this issue.
I have a huge problem with this. I have been playing daily for nearly 2 years, have a player rating of 620k and have fully explored act 5. I have 53 5* champs (and a number of them duped). I also have 5 6*s.
Of these I only have 6 5*s that people would consider really great and one amazing 6*.
My RNG luck is spectacularly bad. I am going on 4 months of useless pulls. Garbage! Or maybe I get my 3rd 5* Quake who is indeed great but that dupe doesn’t help me. I’ve amassed quantity but quality is severely lacking. And I can’t fix that even when as you say, you’ve added events to give more 5* shards.
Then I have alliance members with spectacular luck some with half the amount of 5* champs and 2-3 times as many great champs.
When they post their pulls I do my best to be happy for them and not complain about the **** i just pulled (again). And I make things work with what I have, including 4*s for synergy or in some cases for certain nodes. I figure it may cost me some extra units, but I can still compete.
And now you gate the 4*s to “save me from frustration”? Do you understand how frustrating that is? I’m literally going to wait for luck!
I grind, I spend -and I pull mostly garbage. That isn’t my fault. I make it work, and now you say, “sorry you can’t”? Seriously?
I already nearly quit over soul-crushing pulls, and this makes it harder to stay motivated. Understand there is a lot of pent up frustration over RNG in here. But understand you’ve just made every bad pull feel like another slap in the face because it means I’m stuck that much longer.
I know you say “don’t worry, the content will always be there.” That’s fair, but I may not be.
So, there’s literally never been any restriction on champs for story mode, and with a week notice, they remove 80-90% of rosters from participation? Even if you want to look at 5/50 and higher champs, for many players, more than half their eligible champs are gone.
There has been fierce gates in Act 1/2 iirc. Like some paths require you to have a Black widow or Thor in your team. Take a look at the Classic mode of Ultron’s Assult. It’s been there since the start of the game.
Requiring BW or Thor isn’t as fierce of a gate as you make it seem when there are 2*, 3* and 4* variants of those champions to choose from. Also act 1 and 2 only required class gates. Act 4 had champion gates like spidey and colossus
From everything that Kabam has written, it sure seems like the main motivating goal here is to quickly generate $$$.
Kabam can't talk about their Disney contract, but for this to be sprung on the community like it has been, it sure seems like something drastic has changed.
For all we know, Disney could have had a 1000% increase on royalty payments, and now, Kabam is scrambling to generate those funds, and Kabam can't say that this is the main reason for the way they are changing things so quickly.
We all know that the stated reasons for the changes are pretty much rubbish any way you look at it, saving people from content that is "too difficult" for 4*s is just absurd.
To generate $$ quickly, they have to limit the usefulness of champs people already have, and they have done that by limiting champs to 5*s or higher.
This alone won't generate enough $$$, so the next step is to introduce a Cavalier crystal which has a very small chance at a 6*, but, it is still a chance at it. This will get people spending a bit more.
But, that still isn't enough, so they now must introduce a 5* Basic arena, and since everyone is now forced to go for 5* champs, arena scores for this are going to skyrocket, and people will be forced to pay to keep refreshing them. It wouldn't be shocking to see these scores reach 50M+ rivaling the featured 5* champ as people scramble to, once again, build up their roster.
The last step in getting more cash is to turn up the offer machine.
I wouldn't be shocked to see ads coming as well, hopefully, they will be static version that you can just swipe away, but, it sure looks like this is the direction they are headed.
The champ restrictions have no creativity. If the challenge is too hard for four stars, have the players find out through exploration- it still costs energy and sometimes items. Kabam you need to do something interesting which creates game excitement. Not lay a brick wall. Very boring and reads as greed for the sake of greed. The responses have been lacking from your representatives, failing to actually listen to the overwhelming concern. At the very least, start your brick wall restriction for 6.2, so players can prepare.
The best thing as a consumer that you can do is stop spending money on the product or service until they fix the issue. Voice concern, but ultimately not spending creates most impact. That’s how these companies operate. Vote with your wallet. These forums obviously don’t mean much to kabam, but if profit margins start decreasing exponentially then someone has to answer to someone.
Kabam has been discouraging players as of late- uncreatively restrict champs with no warning for act6, blind eye to silent nerf or bug, not updating rewards from years ago for completion, and very poor offers for cash that don’t reflect the actual value of resources. Only way to send a message is stop spending cash and rally others to do the same. That’s really your best route for change.
And it just came to me @Kabam Miike@Kabam Vydious what about you keep the gate but the rng is taken out, it would balance things, you would give access to all champs and each champ of the 5* variety would have a cost to be bought in shards ie a 5* blue cyclops would cost 2500 5* shards, whereas a cg would go for 12k 5* shards
A similar thing could be done for all champs
If you do this then the frustation would be avoided bc we wouldnt depend on luck to have usable champs for the incoming challenges that require not skill, but the right champs
*Stares into the nothing, knowing all of this will be ignored*
@Kabam Miike so are you saying that in future content you are going to see 5 stars as an obsolete pile of trash and in future acts you are going restrict them as you are doing right now with the four stars, and if you are planing to restrict them for some paths in act 6 you are going to cause rage to the majority of the community and players
From everything that Kabam has written, it sure seems like the main motivating goal here is to quickly generate $$$.
Kabam can't talk about their Disney contract, but for this to be sprung on the community like it has been, it sure seems like something drastic has changed.
For all we know, Disney could have had a 1000% increase on royalty payments, and now, Kabam is scrambling to generate those funds, and Kabam can't say that this is the main reason for the way they are changing things so quickly.
We all know that the stated reasons for the changes are pretty much rubbish any way you look at it, saving people from content that is "too difficult" for 4*s is just absurd.
To generate $$ quickly, they have to limit the usefulness of champs people already have, and they have done that by limiting champs to 5*s or higher.
This alone won't generate enough $$$, so the next step is to introduce a Cavalier crystal which has a very small chance at a 6*, but, it is still a chance at it. This will get people spending a bit more.
But, that still isn't enough, so they now must introduce a 5* Basic arena, and since everyone is now forced to go for 5* champs, arena scores for this are going to skyrocket, and people will be forced to pay to keep refreshing them. It wouldn't be shocking to see these scores reach 50M+ rivaling the featured 5* champ as people scramble to, once again, build up their roster.
The last step in getting more cash is to turn up the offer machine.
I wouldn't be shocked to see ads coming as well, hopefully, they will be static version that you can just swipe away, but, it sure looks like this is the direction they are headed.
Please no one respond back to this comment... you have won for sure my friend! Couldn't break it down any better than that in a lifetime lol seriously though... SALUTE TO YOU!
I agree! Kabam has done well with making it easier to get rank up resources and 5* shards, plus there are so many OP champs and synergies to make monthly and existing content easier. When you have Youtubers destroying content in a day or so, it's hard to create content that challenges this set of players as well as cater to growing players. I think with this being a piece of static content that players can progress to is a good business decision.
We now see we wont be able to bring in any thing less than a 5* champ, but is this worth all the uproar we have seen?
Also there has been talk of putting a 5* restriction.
I call BS on that one, mate.
Mike posted that 6.2 will have champion specific restrictions requiring x number of 5 and x number of 6*a required to do lanes as well has class specific requirements. He has not responded to the question of whether both of these restrictions will be on the same lanes at the same time
what do you mean 'is it worth the uproar'? There are so many interactive fights in MCOC like Dorm, Electro, Magik that require specific champs to counter them and Act 6 will have stacked version of these.
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"You can arena grind." Oh yeah, really? Have any of you at Kabam actually spent the time to grind in an arena? Do you even know how long it actually takes the average player to get over a million arena points with almost a no 5 star roster?
Do you people even play the game? Obviously not! But wait, why would anyone at Kabam actually have to play the game from scratch when all you have to do is type in that special secret account info and have access to every character with maxed abilities!
Why don't you just go in and ban 4 star champions from doing Act 1, 2 & 3 and ban 5 star champions from doing anything except Act 6 while your at it. Ban 2 and 3 stars champions from playing Act 3 or Act 4. Ban 2, 3 and 4 Stars from doing Uncollected! Why don't you just go into the game and ban every ranked star to be useless from here on out!
What a joke!
Adding to these you will further hurt at least 90% of the community by denying access with 6* barrages, which is obvious targeted to money spenders
The last thing cant be denied, since to get a solid roster of 5-6* champs you dont just need "skill" you need ways to get shards and then luck to pull viable champs, in a basic pool the odds at pulling one champ is less than 1% whuch diminishes every 2 weeks.
You will say, well there are the featured 5* crystals abd while that is truth 60-70% of the champs in those are not solid pulls, ~25% of those are maybe useful for certain things and only around 5% are great champs that can guarantee clearing content.
So the more shards you get the bigger the odds at pulling a desired champ, and while there are ways to get those shards in a balanced way, the spenders and ytubers whom seek attention will easily buy units to get crystals with featured champs and that will by itself add to their shards
I get this being a business and is true you do kinda well, but i dont see how you would do worse by really listening and taking to what most are telling you
The restriction of 4*’s in 6.1 is real shady move, but to top on that you actually manage to turn a so called ****storm into a steaming pile of ****storm with the announcement of some pretty vague and unclear restrictions in 6.2
6.1 hasn’t been released yet and we’re already mad about 6.2.
Just.......wow........o_O
6* are far too rare to put a restriction or gate of having. I can understand the 4* gates... as many players have a plethora of 5* (though maybe not ones that give the best synergies). I am sorry, but I just joined the rest of the community on this issue.
Of these I only have 6 5*s that people would consider really great and one amazing 6*.
My RNG luck is spectacularly bad. I am going on 4 months of useless pulls. Garbage! Or maybe I get my 3rd 5* Quake who is indeed great but that dupe doesn’t help me. I’ve amassed quantity but quality is severely lacking. And I can’t fix that even when as you say, you’ve added events to give more 5* shards.
Then I have alliance members with spectacular luck some with half the amount of 5* champs and 2-3 times as many great champs.
When they post their pulls I do my best to be happy for them and not complain about the **** i just pulled (again). And I make things work with what I have, including 4*s for synergy or in some cases for certain nodes. I figure it may cost me some extra units, but I can still compete.
And now you gate the 4*s to “save me from frustration”? Do you understand how frustrating that is? I’m literally going to wait for luck!
I grind, I spend -and I pull mostly garbage. That isn’t my fault. I make it work, and now you say, “sorry you can’t”? Seriously?
I already nearly quit over soul-crushing pulls, and this makes it harder to stay motivated. Understand there is a lot of pent up frustration over RNG in here. But understand you’ve just made every bad pull feel like another slap in the face because it means I’m stuck that much longer.
I know you say “don’t worry, the content will always be there.” That’s fair, but I may not be.
Also act 1 and 2 only required class gates. Act 4 had champion gates like spidey and colossus
Kabam can't talk about their Disney contract, but for this to be sprung on the community like it has been, it sure seems like something drastic has changed.
For all we know, Disney could have had a 1000% increase on royalty payments, and now, Kabam is scrambling to generate those funds, and Kabam can't say that this is the main reason for the way they are changing things so quickly.
We all know that the stated reasons for the changes are pretty much rubbish any way you look at it, saving people from content that is "too difficult" for 4*s is just absurd.
To generate $$ quickly, they have to limit the usefulness of champs people already have, and they have done that by limiting champs to 5*s or higher.
This alone won't generate enough $$$, so the next step is to introduce a Cavalier crystal which has a very small chance at a 6*, but, it is still a chance at it. This will get people spending a bit more.
But, that still isn't enough, so they now must introduce a 5* Basic arena, and since everyone is now forced to go for 5* champs, arena scores for this are going to skyrocket, and people will be forced to pay to keep refreshing them. It wouldn't be shocking to see these scores reach 50M+ rivaling the featured 5* champ as people scramble to, once again, build up their roster.
The last step in getting more cash is to turn up the offer machine.
I wouldn't be shocked to see ads coming as well, hopefully, they will be static version that you can just swipe away, but, it sure looks like this is the direction they are headed.
The best thing as a consumer that you can do is stop spending money on the product or service until they fix the issue. Voice concern, but ultimately not spending creates most impact. That’s how these companies operate. Vote with your wallet. These forums obviously don’t mean much to kabam, but if profit margins start decreasing exponentially then someone has to answer to someone.
Kabam has been discouraging players as of late- uncreatively restrict champs with no warning for act6, blind eye to silent nerf or bug, not updating rewards from years ago for completion, and very poor offers for cash that don’t reflect the actual value of resources. Only way to send a message is stop spending cash and rally others to do the same. That’s really your best route for change.
A similar thing could be done for all champs
If you do this then the frustation would be avoided bc we wouldnt depend on luck to have usable champs for the incoming challenges that require not skill, but the right champs
*Stares into the nothing, knowing all of this will be ignored*