The Summoner Showdown Tournament Begins July 31!

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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,512 ★★★★★
    I don't mean to sound judgmental for people getting their hopes up. That's a normal reaction. Most of us have that. We hear big announcement, and our minds go places. I just don't attach myself to any possibility that comes in my mind. That way when things are revealed, I'm not upset. The thing about surprises is that they can be anything.
  • MattstafariMattstafari Member Posts: 691 ★★★
    I think people are too caught up on rewards. It seems like every event, offer or issue / bug in the game must have some big rewards to satisfy the discontented.
    Personally, I think fun gameplay is the key, if kabam could get duels sorted so we can actually play each other in live duels. That would be great. People would freak out and the game would have a new dimension, if that was showcased in this tournament, everyone would want to watch. I'll still watch some but, I'm hoping there's something new they're showcasing.
  • ChubsWhiteChubsWhite Member Posts: 493 ★★★
    Besides crystal openings I honestly don't watch none of those MCOC YouTubers. I guess that's y'all thing, sit for hours watching them do dungeons or arena - but I actually have a life.
  • MRMOJO77MRMOJO77 Member Posts: 215
    Yes because the millons that play mcoc can be there..... Another "eh".
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Man people will really have a moan about just about anything here.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,512 ★★★★★
    AndiYTDE said:

    Husky54 said:

    Djkrdjj said:

    Do as you want. I expressed my thoughts. It's engaging. While I can understand that people want to be able to participate in something, I don't personally need something in it for me to enjoy it.

    Someone who gets it. I agree that it kinda sucks that the big announcement wasn’t something that everybody could participate in but jeez guys. It hasn’t happened yet. Who knows what will happen? But also at the same time @GroundedWisdom is right. Not everything as to be inclusive to be enjoyable
    Ok then tell me why I should care. Content creators are just marketing tools who make money from a third party platform. I don’t care about marketing. I don’t care about anybody getting free advertising. There is literally no benefit to anyone not directly involved.
    Tell me, are you a Sports Fan?
    Interesting how you once again show your double standards. A few weeks ago when we discussed about whether the Black Order should have the villain tag, I brought up Mister Sinister as a comparisation and you were crying "ThAt HAs nOtHIng tO dO WiTH tHE TopiC". Now you bring up something that has nothing to do with the topic.
    This announcement is a big disappointment, Kabam was creating a hype that should affect everyone who plays the game, but the actual announcement only affects a very small amount of these people, not too hard to understand.
    I came up with a metaphor that mirrors my point. Pretty good one, actually. In that discussion, you kept insisting that the Black Order must be Tagged as Villains, and Sinister was somehow misrepresented. What you still don't get is they make the Tags. Along with Marvel. Not us.
    If you're going to talk to me about double-standards on being off-topic, you might not want to carry discussions over from other Threads. They didn't say anything of the sort. They said there was a big announcement.
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,431 ★★★★★
    The crybabies are out in force.
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★

    I think people are too caught up on rewards. It seems like every event, offer or issue / bug in the game must have some big rewards to satisfy the discontented.
    Personally, I think fun gameplay is the key, if kabam could get duels sorted so we can actually play each other in live duels. That would be great. People would freak out and the game would have a new dimension, if that was showcased in this tournament, everyone would want to watch. I'll still watch some but, I'm hoping there's something new they're showcasing.

    Yes and no
    Fun content is key without it people wouldn’t play the game but if there are horrible rewards a lot of the time it can be frustrating especially when your trying to progress through the game
  • DanielYorkDanielYork Member Posts: 42
    The issue I have will this is that it affects a small portion of the community. When you consider how many play and the number that will watch/participate I can’t help but to think it’s a waste of resources that could have been used to improve the game. Either more content, reworking champs or fixing numerous bugs. Instead time and money was spent of something that 90% of the player base will never see.
  • GreywardenGreywarden Member Posts: 843 ★★★★

    @Kabam Miike can you confirm wether or not this is the “big announcement” we were promised, or is there something a little bit... less underwhelming in store?

    Some might find this underwhelming, but others definitely do not.

    This is the first big tournament that we've been a part of, with some of our community's favourite Content Creators and some of our most experienced and accomplished players taking the stage to Compete to prove that they are the best!
    Hi Miike

    Is there still going to be a separate tournament at NYCC with the wheel and all? I've been to the last two and I'm goign this year so that would be great if you still had that competition or at least the wheel :)
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,512 ★★★★★
    It's not the same line of arguments. It's not even the same discussion. I'm not going into it any further.
  • chunkybchunkyb Member, Content Creators Posts: 1,453 Content Creator
    Kinda left this out, but didn't mean to.

    The content creators also help many of us clear content and learn to player better. We all have our own preferences on who we watch or like... And some of us don't watch any at all. Regardless, most of the YouTube folks are trying to help players in one way or another. Yeah, there are many clickbait-y type yters out there as well lol. But that's not the point.

    Just didn't wanna seem like i was leaving them out lmao. There are a ton of good yters out there and involved in this thing.
  • Duke_SilverDuke_Silver Member Posts: 2,421 ★★★★

    I was actually just about to post how I think most of the ”content” creators get unfairly treated but this evens it out. I’m glad to see they are finally getting their fair shake.

    what about the ones who weren't invited :'(:'(:'(:'( but i'm not bitter at all.............
    Dang man, I would’ve love loved to see some crazy Morningstar gameplay at the tournament.
  • chunkybchunkyb Member, Content Creators Posts: 1,453 Content Creator
    Werewrym said:

    @chunkyb I don't think anyone denies there are some great people involved with this, and sure I think it'll be fun to watch. But my big complaint with it is that it will only include YouTubers, or players in the very top alliances. Summoners have wanted a tournament for years and it's unfortunate that Kabam can't do more to involve the "normal" summoners who perhaps have as much or even more skill in the game, but can't qualify because they aren't content creators or players in the top alliances. I think a lot of the disappointment here has been interpreted as dislike for the content creators and top alliances when it really isn't.

    I feel ya. It's a valid mindset as well. I think Kabam tends to move slowly on a lot of things bc they're cautious. Obv Idk for sure, but it's the feeling i get.

    They're always talking here about watching the data and adjusting from there. Usually that pertains directly to AQ/AW or champion changes. I've always believed when they do stuff like this little tournament.. They probably watch the data and feedback in the same way.

    You and I are a lot alike as far as enjoying the challenging stuff. You've been calling for some sort of tourney for a long time. I've run several of them on Line. I've also tried to push AW towards a tournament style. Maybe we can leverage this thing into more widespread events? But I'd imagine if the overwhelming data is ppl crapping on it or complaining about no rewards in their acct... It might be more difficult lmao
  • WerewrymWerewrym Member Posts: 2,830 ★★★★★
    chunkyb said:

    Werewrym said:

    @chunkyb I don't think anyone denies there are some great people involved with this, and sure I think it'll be fun to watch. But my big complaint with it is that it will only include YouTubers, or players in the very top alliances. Summoners have wanted a tournament for years and it's unfortunate that Kabam can't do more to involve the "normal" summoners who perhaps have as much or even more skill in the game, but can't qualify because they aren't content creators or players in the top alliances. I think a lot of the disappointment here has been interpreted as dislike for the content creators and top alliances when it really isn't.

    I feel ya. It's a valid mindset as well. I think Kabam tends to move slowly on a lot of things bc they're cautious. Obv Idk for sure, but it's the feeling i get.

    They're always talking here about watching the data and adjusting from there. Usually that pertains directly to AQ/AW or champion changes. I've always believed when they do stuff like this little tournament.. They probably watch the data and feedback in the same way.

    You and I are a lot alike as far as enjoying the challenging stuff. You've been calling for some sort of tourney for a long time. I've run several of them on Line. I've also tried to push AW towards a tournament style. Maybe we can leverage this thing into more widespread events? But I'd imagine if the overwhelming data is ppl crapping on it or complaining about no rewards in their acct... It might be more difficult lmao
    I remember way back when you suggested I join your challenges on Line. I was actually going to but that was a period in time when I wasn't playing as much. I'm assuming you don't do them anymore due to the lack of the gifting badge?

    Anyways, back on topic, yes I'd be a huge proponent of bringing a tournament like this to at least a much wider portion of the community, but ideally the whole community. I would love the idea of having a community wide tournament, and also streaming the tournament with content creators. I think both would be possible and you would please a whole lot more of the community. Leaving people out is never a good thing.

    Ultimately I think all the dislike comes down to one thing. The epicness of MCoC tournament is so great, that being left out REALLY sucks. If it was streamed AND regular summoners were able to participate I think the reaction would have been a whole lot different. The reaction wasn't towards the content creators, it was towards being left out.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,512 ★★★★★
    Werewrym said:

    chunkyb said:

    Werewrym said:

    @chunkyb I don't think anyone denies there are some great people involved with this, and sure I think it'll be fun to watch. But my big complaint with it is that it will only include YouTubers, or players in the very top alliances. Summoners have wanted a tournament for years and it's unfortunate that Kabam can't do more to involve the "normal" summoners who perhaps have as much or even more skill in the game, but can't qualify because they aren't content creators or players in the top alliances. I think a lot of the disappointment here has been interpreted as dislike for the content creators and top alliances when it really isn't.

    I feel ya. It's a valid mindset as well. I think Kabam tends to move slowly on a lot of things bc they're cautious. Obv Idk for sure, but it's the feeling i get.

    They're always talking here about watching the data and adjusting from there. Usually that pertains directly to AQ/AW or champion changes. I've always believed when they do stuff like this little tournament.. They probably watch the data and feedback in the same way.

    You and I are a lot alike as far as enjoying the challenging stuff. You've been calling for some sort of tourney for a long time. I've run several of them on Line. I've also tried to push AW towards a tournament style. Maybe we can leverage this thing into more widespread events? But I'd imagine if the overwhelming data is ppl crapping on it or complaining about no rewards in their acct... It might be more difficult lmao
    I remember way back when you suggested I join your challenges on Line. I was actually going to but that was a period in time when I wasn't playing as much. I'm assuming you don't do them anymore due to the lack of the gifting badge?

    Anyways, back on topic, yes I'd be a huge proponent of bringing a tournament like this to at least a much wider portion of the community, but ideally the whole community. I would love the idea of having a community wide tournament, and also streaming the tournament with content creators. I think both would be possible and you would please a whole lot more of the community. Leaving people out is never a good thing.

    Ultimately I think all the dislike comes down to one thing. The epicness of MCoC tournament is so great, that being left out REALLY sucks. If it was streamed AND regular summoners were able to participate I think the reaction would have been a whole lot different. The reaction wasn't towards the content creators, it was towards being left out.
    I suppose there IS something that could be proposed. Not sure how people would feel about it. They could run it in-game after the Tourney ran. "Beat the Winner" kind of deal. In-game prize for best performance. People could run the challenges and they could award a version of the Champ announced to the Winner. Personally I don't care, I'm a fan of the Tournament. I'm just throwing out an idea for your point of people wanting to participate.
  • WerewrymWerewrym Member Posts: 2,830 ★★★★★

    Werewrym said:

    chunkyb said:

    Werewrym said:

    @chunkyb I don't think anyone denies there are some great people involved with this, and sure I think it'll be fun to watch. But my big complaint with it is that it will only include YouTubers, or players in the very top alliances. Summoners have wanted a tournament for years and it's unfortunate that Kabam can't do more to involve the "normal" summoners who perhaps have as much or even more skill in the game, but can't qualify because they aren't content creators or players in the top alliances. I think a lot of the disappointment here has been interpreted as dislike for the content creators and top alliances when it really isn't.

    I feel ya. It's a valid mindset as well. I think Kabam tends to move slowly on a lot of things bc they're cautious. Obv Idk for sure, but it's the feeling i get.

    They're always talking here about watching the data and adjusting from there. Usually that pertains directly to AQ/AW or champion changes. I've always believed when they do stuff like this little tournament.. They probably watch the data and feedback in the same way.

    You and I are a lot alike as far as enjoying the challenging stuff. You've been calling for some sort of tourney for a long time. I've run several of them on Line. I've also tried to push AW towards a tournament style. Maybe we can leverage this thing into more widespread events? But I'd imagine if the overwhelming data is ppl crapping on it or complaining about no rewards in their acct... It might be more difficult lmao
    I remember way back when you suggested I join your challenges on Line. I was actually going to but that was a period in time when I wasn't playing as much. I'm assuming you don't do them anymore due to the lack of the gifting badge?

    Anyways, back on topic, yes I'd be a huge proponent of bringing a tournament like this to at least a much wider portion of the community, but ideally the whole community. I would love the idea of having a community wide tournament, and also streaming the tournament with content creators. I think both would be possible and you would please a whole lot more of the community. Leaving people out is never a good thing.

    Ultimately I think all the dislike comes down to one thing. The epicness of MCoC tournament is so great, that being left out REALLY sucks. If it was streamed AND regular summoners were able to participate I think the reaction would have been a whole lot different. The reaction wasn't towards the content creators, it was towards being left out.
    I suppose there IS something that could be proposed. Not sure how people would feel about it. They could run it in-game after the Tourney ran. "Beat the Winner" kind of deal. In-game prize for best performance. People could run the challenges and they could award a version of the Champ announced to the Winner. Personally I don't care, I'm a fan of the Tournament. I'm just throwing out an idea for your point of people wanting to participate.
    Don't get me wrong here, I think the tournament will be cool and fun to watch, but many summoners would also love to be included on this and should be given the chance to participate in game even if they can't go to wherever this is being held. It would be cool to bring the challenges that these people faced to the game afterwards just to see how others can do and at least feel somewhat involved in the tourny.

    I'd personally love for the chance to just try the challenges even if I didn't get any rewards out of the deal. That said, it would be kinda cool if they had a set reward bracket and depending on how well you did compared to the winner you'd get rewarded.
  • chunkybchunkyb Member, Content Creators Posts: 1,453 Content Creator
    I think there's a lot of really cool things they could do to include players. Idk if they're working on them or not tbh. I've seen a lot of people with great ideas about it here and on Line/reddit. I hope they have plans already in the works... And i hope they check out some of the various ideas people have thrown out there. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

    They hold cards close to their chest tho. That can be very frustrating to us as players, but i also understand why haha.

    And @Werewrym, maybe we can put our heads together to come up with some viable ideas for some fun stuff. My events have definitely stopped bc of various things. Being busy, other rooms stealing them, and gifting. But it's always fun to brainstorm and maybe we come up with something kabam likes. Who knows? I've seen a huge uptick in them having open ears over the past year.
  • Deacon_0TRDeacon_0TR Member, Content Creators Posts: 3 Content Creator
    Werewrym said:

    @chunkyb I don't think anyone denies there are some great people involved with this, and sure I think it'll be fun to watch. But my big complaint with it is that it will only include YouTubers, or players in the very top alliances.

    Im not a youtuber or in a Top Ally. Im a 'Normal' player. I totally expected to hated upon and it has bothered me for a while on what to expect but Im excited to go and hoped the community would be more supportive
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