**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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That attitude really got on my nerves too.
If you don't want to play, you can quit. That doesn't make it right or wrong. If someone wants to keep playing, that doesn't make it right or wrong.
I made points that some agree with and some don't.
But here's my point:
Kabam is going to do what they want. When they open this forum for feedback, before I ever said a word, it's multiple pages of people complaining about a game and processes they don't own.
When people point that out -- because some of us do know that every single aspect of this process is choice -- the feedback loop threatens to obscure the fact that some of us are not upset about this process, and if you say nothing, then that viewpoint gets overridden repeatedly.
To be honest with you, if my comment doesn't sit well with you, that's just not my problem. Because the reality is you can quit or not quit. Play or not play.
Trying to make it seem like that's "toxic" is ridiculous. The post I responded to was one where the person said the Class deal from yesterday wasn't sufficient value to buy. I agreed with that.
Because, again: Nobody forces anyone to do anything. Buy or not. Play or not.
Nobody's wrong either way, but just because Kabam does it for profit doesn't mean a complaint is valid
There are lots of uses for the forums, and some subforums have more specific purposes, but that is the primary purpose. That's why this section is in fact called the General Discussion forums. As opposed to the General Safe from Response Expression forums.
No one should be shouted down, but being disagreed with is not the same thing. If someone thinks you're wrong, they have the same right to state that opinion as you do to state the original opinion in the first place.
The QOL changes, which frankly aren't really that great, are not free like it or not.
@DNA3000 it seems you didn’t understand the point I was making overall, in that the issue isn’t having players debate or discuss these things, but it’s the tenor, respectfulness and frequency of the comments targeting others for sharing that leads to the toxicity we’re seeing on this thread and countless others. As a guardian, I had hoped you could get behind the message I was trying to convey and help facilitate a request for decency and respectfulness that’s very lacking right now.
Can you honestly read the comments of dissent toward those who don’t like these changes and tell me those are coming from a place of respect and fair discourse? I mean I can specifically point to the comments that are directly calling others out, belittling their opinions, calling other players entitled, telling them to just quit the game, accusing them of just wanting free stuff and being lazy, and more. Is there really not a middle ground here?
I want Kabam to invest in making this game better and hopefully lengthen the shelf life.
That requires man-hours of development. That means money.
I would pay for things that interest me in that regard. Things that don't interest me, I won't.
So there is a third opinion: I don't need F2P players telling me that Kabam can't do whatever it wants because it doesn't include them, just like I don't need playere who pay to tell me what I should pay for.
Kabam develops the game. I might make suggestions, but they don't have to do what I want or even respond, and I don't have to play or pay.
I fit into that third option pretty clearly
There has ever only been obe reversal of a game mechanic which was a change to diversity. They were going to change it and then reversed that choice. The side effect is that now people throw around "this will be the end of the game" comments and "boycott time".
They arent going to change their mind on this. The only true way to make a change is don't buy it.
Tired of items expiring in your Stash? Increase your Inventory Limits for many basic Items by 25%! This won’t apply to all items, such as those for Special Events."
Will it increase capacity only for items, or iso and catalysts as well?
If you’re referring to my comment earlier on this thread, I didn’t use your name and I was simply asking for people to not get stuck in yet another back and forth argument with you that takes up page after page, as we have seen happen many times before. I didn’t tell you to stop or say you or anyone else didn’t have the right to post.
It’s telling that you can’t agree with a call for civility in the discourse and instead went after me personally yet again, something you get very upset with others when it’s directed your way.
Color me even more glad that WoW classic starts up in a few weeks, much better use of 10 bucks a month.
Straw meet camel. Back broken.
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For those that think my version isn't better. Am I supposed to care? I would like to hear a better suggestion then. Also, those I was talking about in my previous posts never shared this third opinion that you claim is out there. Just scroll up and read the comments, I'll wait. I think your issue is that you can't simply shame me like you do these other f2p guys because I spend but don't share your kabam can do no wrong opinions.
DNA doesn't need me to defend a post, but he actually described exactly how I feel.
I want Kabam to invest in making this game better and hopefully lengthen the shelf life.
That requires man-hours of development. That means money.
I would pay for things that interest me in that regard. Things that don't interest me, I won't.
So there is a third opinion: I don't need F2P players telling me that Kabam can't do whatever it wants because it doesn't include them, just like I don't need playere who pay to tell me what I should pay for.
Kabam develops the game. I might make suggestions, but they don't have to do what I want or even respond, and I don't have to play or pay.
I fit into that third option pretty clearly
No you don't because I don't disagree with anything you said. You gave your opinion you didn't belittle either side. You have no dog in the fight I was referring to earlier. Now if you just want to defend DNA for what reason I don't understand that's fine too. Also, the third option is giving a better suggestion on what kabam should do with their subscription instead and you did not provide that whatsoever.
I know that I have treated everyone fairly. If they reply to me I reply to them, if they make one statement and drop then I leave them alone after saying my piece. I have said the people want free stuff, but that is not an unfair description of people who say "give this for free", it is not belittling their opinions or them, it is stating a factual observation.
Let me give you an example.
Your son has been asking you to buy him a car for a year and a half so he doesn’t have to keep borrowing yours. Do you buy it for him just because he asked you for such a long time?
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For those that think my version isn't better. Am I supposed to care? I would like to hear a better suggestion then. Also, those I was talking about in my previous posts never shared this third opinion that you claim is out there. Just scroll up and read the comments, I'll wait. I think your issue is that you can't simply shame me like you do these other f2p guys because I spend but don't share your kabam can do no wrong opinions.
How you feel about others' thoughts of your "version" is how is exactly what Kabam thinks of your opinion of what they chose to do.
There has ever only been obe reversal of a game mechanic which was a change to diversity. They were going to change it and then reversed that choice. The side effect is that now people throw around "this will be the end of the game" comments and "boycott time".
They arent going to change their mind on this. The only true way to make a change is don't buy it.
I'm not in favor of the f2p guys that say Kabam should burn the game down and make 0 profits, or the game is ruined. I never once said that. It's dramatic and simply not going to happen with these subscriptions. What I don't like specifically is "buy it or shut up", "if you don't like it quit." So lumping me in that is just incorrect so now you know.
I have made maybe 10 unprompted replies, mostly to things that make no sense. Most of the rest of my replies are replies of replies.
You're not fooling a soul, here. You don't mind people speaking if they agree with you. That's fine, we all get it, but you don't get to choose what any of us do